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Post by Tiro on Jul 26, 2023 19:43:43 GMT 1
Stop panicking folks.......the window has changed. Theres not much money floating around most of this league (except prem sides coming down whove sold big names) and theres no point spending money on no better than we have. In the next few wks the prem loans start to take shape - blades got mcatee and doyle..... burnley got maatsen, harwood bellis and tella to name but two. We have to trust the new recruitment team and owner to deliver some decent incomings but one advantage will be any striker coming in will play often with us particularly if rhodes goes as well. Whilst I agree with the direction of your sentiment, I don’t think your reading of the market is correct: there is more buoyancy by way of available cash this year than there has been for the last 10. There are significant market players in Stoke, Norwich, Boro, Leicester, Brum, Saints, Leeds…even what we normally comparably consider minnows like Millwall and Cov’ have cash on the hip. And the market isn’t as stagnant as people will have you believe because it’s not all about cash: the average procurement by the championship as of today is 4 players. There’s a considerable gap between us, Leeds and Brom - all on 1 player incoming. And like us, there have been considerable outgoings too; we are by no means an island when you consider the average number of players that have been dropped by most clubs. The Prem’ will undoubtedly stimulate the market closer to the close of the window, but it is by no means slow. The media just wants you to think that so they can sell the transfer window. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 26, 2023 19:46:06 GMT 1
Everyone still trusting in Nagle? Two weeks ago there was a guy he questioned the transfer businuess and he got flamed on here. He is looking right. The sarimento signing from west brom and stokes businuess this week was a real gut punch for me. Cardiff also just destroyed everyones ffp arguement. No you're not |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 26, 2023 19:47:43 GMT 1
Stop panicking folks.......the window has changed. Theres not much money floating around most of this league (except prem sides coming down whove sold big names) and theres no point spending money on no better than we have. In the next few wks the prem loans start to take shape - blades got mcatee and doyle..... burnley got maatsen, harwood bellis and tella to name but two. We have to trust the new recruitment team and owner to deliver some decent incomings but one advantage will be any striker coming in will play often with us particularly if rhodes goes as well. Whilst I agree with the direction of your sentiment, I don’t think your reading of the market is correct: there is more buoyancy by way of available cash this year than there has been for the last 10. There are significant market players in Stoke, Norwich, Boro, Leicester, Brum, Saints, Leeds…even what we normally consider minnows like Millwall and Cov’ have cash on the hip. And the market isn’t as stagnant as people will have you believe because it’s not all about cash: the average procurement by the championship as of today is 4 players. There’s a considerable gap between us, Leeds and Brom. The Prem’ will undoubtedly stimulate the market closer to the close of the window, but it is by no means slow. The media just wants you to think that so they can sell the transfer window. I agree with the patient approach etc, but we are in desprate need in a few areas in my eyes. We also have a very tough start to the season, look what happened last season. In terms of a bad start , we never recovered, but also we waited up until the end of the summer window last year. Those "we waited to get them" sginings all bombed - Simpson, Mbete and yes Helik worked out, but he took a good few weeks coming back from injury to get upto speed. You could argue our start this year is even tougher than last, i just don't want another catch up season. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 26, 2023 19:47:43 GMT 1
Comes across like someone recently banned from here for being a complete tit. I made arguements , you can agree or disagree. Most people here just resort to ad hominens. Im not sure if it is lazyness or lack of intellect. If you read the posts I outlined clubs in worse FFP conditions who have made great signings. You can go check out Kieran Mcguires work if you want more details or souces. Secondly, Im not optimistic about Kev especially after the director of football hire coming from the USL. I am not in the Uk but I didnt know people are so sensitive to different opinions about football. It is tribal but once you resort to ad hominens how is this any different than twitter. @@@ Wingman And no problem man, I dont call anyone names or argue about lgpt flags. Is that why I wont fit in here? Lgpt? That's a new one. |
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Post by warnockbrasil on Jul 26, 2023 19:50:38 GMT 1
Everyone still trusting in Nagle? Two weeks ago there was a guy he questioned the transfer businuess and he got flamed on here. He is looking right. The sarimento signing from west brom and stokes businuess this week was a real gut punch for me. Cardiff also just destroyed everyones ffp arguement. No you're not You guys are paranoid. The mod can verify me to settle your nerves. 3 different posters already think i am 4 different people. Have the mod message me and ill be happy to verify. You guys are just derailing. I know everyone wants to be happy clappers but no1 is refuting any points I have made. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 26, 2023 19:50:52 GMT 1
"I've been a lurker for a long time"... then said lurker suddenly posts inflammatory post (rather than easing themselves in gently). Nothing new, we've had these people before... they don't tend to last long. I think my post quality was better than the thread long arguement about LGBT flags lol. And nothing was inflamatory, everyone ganged up on the guy who questioned the transfer policy and since then tons of championship clubs with FFP concerns have made huge moves. No one ganged up on you. You just bored the fuck out of everyone by posting the same thing over and over and over again 🙄 |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 26, 2023 19:51:26 GMT 1
Whilst I agree with the direction of your sentiment, I don’t think your reading of the market is correct: there is more buoyancy by way of available cash this year than there has been for the last 10. There are significant market players in Stoke, Norwich, Boro, Leicester, Brum, Saints, Leeds…even what we normally consider minnows like Millwall and Cov’ have cash on the hip. And the market isn’t as stagnant as people will have you believe because it’s not all about cash: the average procurement by the championship as of today is 4 players. There’s a considerable gap between us, Leeds and Brom. The Prem’ will undoubtedly stimulate the market closer to the close of the window, but it is by no means slow. The media just wants you to think that so they can sell the transfer window. I agree with the patient approach etc, but we are in desprate need in a few areas in my eyes. We also have a very tough start to the season, look what happened last season. In terms of a bad start , we never recovered, but also we waited up until the end of the summer window last year. Those "we waited to get them" sginings all bombed - Simpson, Mbete and yes Helik worked out, but he took a good few weeks coming back from injury to get upto speed. You could argue our start this year is even tougher than last, i just don't want another catch up season. You’ve agreed and then disagreed with your own self in a singular post. That’s quite the achievement. 🎶 TWO BLUE-BELL’S. THERE ARE ONLY TWO BLUE-BELL’S 🎶 |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 26, 2023 19:53:46 GMT 1
Comes across like someone recently banned from here for being a complete tit. I made arguements , you can agree or disagree. Most people here just resort to ad hominens. Im not sure if it is lazyness or lack of intellect. If you read the posts I outlined clubs in worse FFP conditions who have made great signings. You can go check out Kieran Mcguires work if you want more details or souces. Secondly, Im not optimistic about Kev especially after the director of football hire coming from the USL. I am not in the Uk but I didnt know people are so sensitive to different opinions about football. It is tribal but once you resort to ad hominens how is this any different than twitter. @@@ Wingman And no problem man, I dont call anyone names or argue about lgpt flags. Is that why I wont fit in here? Stop trying to be clever and condescending others, going on about intellect, when you don't even know how to spell argument, despite using it half a dozen times. Besides, I get the impression most on here do have some concerns, so maybe you struggle reading too. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 26, 2023 19:57:02 GMT 1
I agree with the patient approach etc, but we are in desprate need in a few areas in my eyes. We also have a very tough start to the season, look what happened last season. In terms of a bad start , we never recovered, but also we waited up until the end of the summer window last year. Those "we waited to get them" sginings all bombed - Simpson, Mbete and yes Helik worked out, but he took a good few weeks coming back from injury to get upto speed. You could argue our start this year is even tougher than last, i just don't want another catch up season. You’ve agreed and then disagreed with your own self in a singular post. That’s quite the achievement. What i meant was i agree with the paitence approach, but we can be in certain areas of the squad yes for example centre half. But in key areas such as centre forward and creativity in the attacking areas no we can't. If someoen could gaurntee , that due to waiting we are not going to start the season badly i would be fine. But as we can't do that and judging on last year's , then i suppose i expected more from the club to help Warnock and to get it done quicker. I mean he only kept us up , give the fella some respect and get him what he requires ? he isn't asking for the earth , jsut some signings- you know that other clubs are making on a daily basis. We on the other hand have signed a back up keeper. Yet are waiting for what though? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 26, 2023 19:57:29 GMT 1
Comes across like someone recently banned from here for being a complete tit. I made arguements , you can agree or disagree. Most people here just resort to ad hominens. Im not sure if it is lazyness or lack of intellect. If you read the posts I outlined clubs in worse FFP conditions who have made great signings. You can go check out Kieran Mcguires work if you want more details or souces. Secondly, Im not optimistic about Kev especially after the director of football hire coming from the USL. I am not in the Uk but I didnt know people are so sensitive to different opinions about football. It is tribal but once you resort to ad hominens how is this any different than twitter. @@@ Wingman And no problem man, I dont call anyone names or argue about lgpt flags. Is that why I wont fit in here? Are you ok Neil ? |
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Post by warnockbrasil on Jul 26, 2023 20:02:24 GMT 1
I made arguements , you can agree or disagree. Most people here just resort to ad hominens. Im not sure if it is lazyness or lack of intellect. If you read the posts I outlined clubs in worse FFP conditions who have made great signings. You can go check out Kieran Mcguires work if you want more details or souces. Secondly, Im not optimistic about Kev especially after the director of football hire coming from the USL. I am not in the Uk but I didnt know people are so sensitive to different opinions about football. It is tribal but once you resort to ad hominens how is this any different than twitter. @@@ Wingman And no problem man, I dont call anyone names or argue about lgpt flags. Is that why I wont fit in here? Are you ok Neil ? A little bit stressed with the transfer window and ffp excuses we have been hearing the last two months. If i see another JUST TRUST KEV post I might puke. Like Warnock said after Watford, I wish we had 2 or 3 of them.... |
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Post by Wingman on Jul 26, 2023 20:08:19 GMT 1
Schofield signs for Pompey.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 26, 2023 20:09:26 GMT 1
Warnock has performed many miracles in his career, keeping clubs up and getting many clubs promoted, that does not mean he guarantees us safety over a full season. Too many I believe simply think we CANNOT be relegated with Warnock in charge, some think even a relegation battle is impossible with warnock in charge and i think that is a dangerous mindset. He isn't a miracle worker and that means the current squad does need strengthening in a number of areas. Last year we approached the season, after being in the play off final, believing we didn't need any real signings to finish mid table.. look how that turned out. Some people are simply raising their concerns at our lack of transfer activity but most of them, I am sure, appreciate that there is still plenty of time left in the transfer window. So let's wait and see where we are at the end of it. If you question it, your posts are labeled Inflamatory.. It has been a bad window. And everyone here will turn on Warnock once this quad inevitably struggles. What's a polite phrase for travel far and have unrewarding solo sex? |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 26, 2023 20:12:00 GMT 1
You guys are paranoid. The mod can verify me to settle your nerves. 3 different posters already think i am 4 different people. Have the mod message me and ill be happy to verify. You guys are just derailing. I know everyone wants to be happy clappers but no1 is refuting any points I have made. Is there an iq test for joining this forum? If it smell like, sticks to blankets and stinks like. It's probably shit |
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Post by harris on Jul 26, 2023 20:14:03 GMT 1
A little bit stressed with the transfer window and ffp excuses we have been hearing the last two months. If i see another JUST TRUST KEV post I might puke. Like Warnock said after Watford, I wish we had 2 or 3 of them.... We’ve got good people in charge now. A good owner, CEO, Sporting Director, manager and back room staff. I personally think they know what they’re doing and trust them to get in who we need, not sign a load of crap for the sake of it. FFP is not an excuse, it’s something we have to abide by to not break the rules and end up with points deductions etc. It’s just where we are, we as fans have to accept that and have a little bit of patience. |
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Post by warnockbrasil on Jul 26, 2023 20:28:14 GMT 1
You guys are paranoid. The mod can verify me to settle your nerves. 3 different posters already think i am 4 different people. Have the mod message me and ill be happy to verify. You guys are just derailing. I know everyone wants to be happy clappers but no1 is refuting any points I have made. Is there an iq test for joining this forum? If it smell like, sticks to blankets and stinks like. It's probably shit So clever. Totally related to football too. You bugged out when I told you that USA owners dont have a good track record owning football clubs. You can just put me on ignore, I dont want to talk to some old guy who makes terrible puns and doesnt want to talk football. I can tell you are at least 60. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 26, 2023 20:32:00 GMT 1
Imagine being banned from a forum for being a wum.
Then re registering under a different name to do the exact same thing.
Some sad people around. I actually feel sorry for them if that is their only thing in life that keeps them happy.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 26, 2023 20:38:36 GMT 1
Schofield signs for Pompey. Fucking hell, he’s done well there! I genuinely thought he’d be at Golcar next season if he was lucky. Good luck to him though. |
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Post by warnockbrasil on Jul 26, 2023 20:43:20 GMT 1
Imagine being banned from a forum for being a wum. Then re registering under a different name to do the exact same thing. Some sad people around. I actually feel sorry for them if that is their only thing in life that keeps them happy. Yes , because only 1 other person in the world can think this transfer window killed momentum. I do not live in the uk btw so not sure what you are on about. Not responding to anymore of this weird paranoia. |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 26, 2023 20:47:26 GMT 1
Bodes well if the Lang rumours are indeed correct.
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Post by sheps on Jul 26, 2023 20:47:44 GMT 1
Ah, we have well and truly reached the bickering and infighting stage of the Transfer Thread...
This is my favourite part of pre-season, give it two weeks and there will be arguments about the starting 11.
Pure DATM classic
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 26, 2023 20:48:45 GMT 1
Is there an iq test for joining this forum? If it smell like, sticks to blankets and stinks like. It's probably shit So clever. Totally related to football too. You bugged out when I told you that USA owners dont have a good track record owning football clubs. You can just put me on ignore, I dont want to talk to some old guy who makes terrible puns and doesnt want to talk football. I can tell you are at least 60. Take it all back pure genius yep no clues in my name Ps I do talk alot about football when not distracted by childish drivel. |
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Post by 4 pts on Jul 26, 2023 21:04:36 GMT 1
He very clearly didn't say that. FWIW you could take out 'significantly' and i'd probably agree with that though. So would the bookies. Bookies odds are not based on probability (at this stage of a season) because there is insufficient and incomplete data. They balance the books to make a margin. As a former accountant Allan, I think you know that whatever stage we're at, bookies have vast resources at their disposable that look at the past, present and the future. Its extremely rare that they have insufficient data to go from. Every signing, change or non change is analysed to the max The outlier we have is Warnock which brings massive unpredictability into the fold. Warnock is a bookies glitch in the system |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 26, 2023 21:05:08 GMT 1
Bodes well if the Lang rumours are indeed correct. On a free he would be a great pick up, him, lees,helik and person would be a sold 4 centre halfs. |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 26, 2023 21:08:46 GMT 1
Bodes well if the Lang rumours are indeed correct. On a free he would be a great pick up, him, lees,helik and person would be a sold 4 centre halfs. Come again? I’m referring to Callum Lang maybe doing the very same (as was rumoured on here sometime ago) and that Whatmore has fired the starter pistol. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 26, 2023 21:33:31 GMT 1
So clever. Totally related to football too. You bugged out when I told you that USA owners dont have a good track record owning football clubs. You can just put me on ignore, I dont want to talk to some old guy who makes terrible puns and doesnt want to talk football. I can tell you are at least 60. Take it all back pure genius yep no clues in my name Ps I do talk alot about football when not distracted by childish drivel. Thought it was because you liked to post at 2 minutes to 8😉 |
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Post by mids on Jul 26, 2023 21:41:45 GMT 1
No panic from me, despite the quiet on the incomings and the outgoings mounting up... Warnock & Kevs guys will get something sorted Bet the temperature would be a lot higher now though under the previous regimes  The honeymoon period is still ongoing |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 26, 2023 21:44:19 GMT 1
Bookies odds are not based on probability (at this stage of a season) because there is insufficient and incomplete data. They balance the books to make a margin. As a former accountant Allan, I think you know that whatever stage we're at, bookies have vast resources at their disposable that look at the past, present and the future. Its extremely rare that they have insufficient data to go from. Every signing, change or non change is analysed to the max The outlier we have is Warnock which brings massive unpredictability into the fold. Warnock is a bookies glitch in the system And nagel owners have come in before pleading poverty to have 1 free hit at the market. Oh less of the former |
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Post by melbourneterrier on Jul 27, 2023 0:15:34 GMT 1
A little bit stressed with the transfer window and ffp excuses we have been hearing the last two months. If i see another JUST TRUST KEV post I might puke. Just trust Kev (Sorry had to do it) |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Jul 27, 2023 1:05:31 GMT 1
You guys are paranoid. The mod can verify me to settle your nerves. 3 different posters already think i am 4 different people. Have the mod message me and ill be happy to verify. You guys are just derailing. I know everyone wants to be happy clappers but no1 is refuting any points I have made. Congratulations, you’ve learnt how to use a VPN, set it to Brazil, clear cache and cookies on your browser, and registered a new account a few hours ago. Then you claim you’re an overseas account. Rinse and repeat a few times to create multiple persona. That’s a lot of effort just to wind up people. How sad. |
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