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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jul 31, 2023 15:11:14 GMT 1
Luton just signed a keeper, I believe.
Read it over the weekend but I'll be blowed if I can remember who or where!
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 31, 2023 15:25:15 GMT 1
WBA rejecting bids from Luton for Alex Palmer, so I wonder if that may stoke up any interest from them in Nicholls? They are linked with kaminski at blackburn. They are trying to sign him for 5m. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 31, 2023 15:30:08 GMT 1
Luton just signed a keeper, I believe. Read it over the weekend but I'll be blowed if I can remember who or where! Pretty sure it was a lad from the SPL. Think they are still looking for a starting GK |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 31, 2023 15:31:24 GMT 1
Luton just signed a keeper, I believe. Read it over the weekend but I'll be blowed if I can remember who or where! Pretty sure it was a lad from the SPL. Think they are still looking for a starting GK Kaminski at blackburn ....... |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 31, 2023 15:34:23 GMT 1
Pretty sure it was a lad from the SPL. Think they are still looking for a starting GK Kaminski at blackburn ....... Well that's who they want but if Blackburn won't sell and West Brom won't sell Palmer then they still need a starting GK. Edit: thought they'd signed a back up from the SPL but think they loaned one out instead, apologies. |
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Post by hartyhtfc on Jul 31, 2023 15:40:47 GMT 1
WBA rejecting bids from Luton for Alex Palmer, so I wonder if that may stoke up any interest from them in Nicholls? Would not shock me if we are tested with some bids. If we can get close to £10m for him then we'll let him go surely |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 31, 2023 15:50:57 GMT 1
WBA rejecting bids from Luton for Alex Palmer, so I wonder if that may stoke up any interest from them in Nicholls? Would not shock me if we are tested with some bids. If we can get close to £10m for him then we'll let him go surely Dean would have caved in at £5M. This would test the mettle of the new owner and to what figure he would  our only jewel. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 31, 2023 16:00:35 GMT 1
Would not shock me if we are tested with some bids. If we can get close to £10m for him then we'll let him go surely Dean would have caved in at £5M. This would test the mettle of the new owner and to what figure he would our only jewel. Listen Dean Hoyle - wet his pants and let LOB go along with Toff for less than one of there release clauses. If Luton came in under DH for Nicholls for 50 quid, Hoyle would have personally driven him down.
Nagle was quite adamant that players leave and only leave, when the manager thinks he can either do better or its good for him and the player.
Nagle has taken us over, i asume from what him, edwards and cartwright have said, they do not want to fail.
Plus we are missing the important point, of does Nichools actually want to leave ? this isn't notts forrest, its Luton. Who i will be shocked stay up. I will be shocked they can offer him life changing money. Nicholls got a big upgrade on his contract only a year ago, with an option. Forrest had a realistic chance of staying up, Luton is a different story.
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Post by crux on Jul 31, 2023 16:03:58 GMT 1
WBA rejecting bids from Luton for Alex Palmer, so I wonder if that may stoke up any interest from them in Nicholls? It reads more like Alex Palmer rejected the move. The quote from Carlos says that the move was put straight to Palmer when the bid came in. Or at least that's how it read to me. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 31, 2023 16:10:02 GMT 1
Dean would have caved in at £5M. This would test the mettle of the new owner and to what figure he would our only jewel. Listen Dean Hoyle - wet his pants and let LOB go along with Toff for less than one of there release clauses. If Luton came in under DH for Nicholls for 50 quid, Hoyle would have personally driven him down.
Nagle was quite adamant that players leave and only leave, when the manager thinks he can either do better or its good for him and the player.
Nagle has taken us over, i asume from what him, edwards and cartwright have said, they do not want to fail. Plus we are missing the important point, of does Nichools actually want to leave ? this isn't notts forrest, its Luton. Who i will be shocked stay up. I will be shocked they can offer him life changing money. Nicholls got a big upgrade on his contract only a year ago, with an option. Forrest had a realistic chance of staying up, Luton is a different story.
Most players would like a crack at the Premier League and get a big increase in their wages. I would guess, like yourself that keeping goal behind the Luton defence would not be the best place to show off your abilities though. I would not let him go for £5M though and it seems Blackburn and WBA are holding firm as well. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 31, 2023 16:14:55 GMT 1
Listen Dean Hoyle - wet his pants and let LOB go along with Toff for less than one of there release clauses. If Luton came in under DH for Nicholls for 50 quid, Hoyle would have personally driven him down.
Nagle was quite adamant that players leave and only leave, when the manager thinks he can either do better or its good for him and the player.
Nagle has taken us over, i asume from what him, edwards and cartwright have said, they do not want to fail. Plus we are missing the important point, of does Nichools actually want to leave ? this isn't notts forrest, its Luton. Who i will be shocked stay up. I will be shocked they can offer him life changing money. Nicholls got a big upgrade on his contract only a year ago, with an option. Forrest had a realistic chance of staying up, Luton is a different story.
Most players would like a crack at the Premier League and get a big increase in their wages. I would guess, like yourself that keeping goal behind the Luton defence would not be the best place to show off your abilities though. I would not let him go for £5M though and it seems Blackburn and WBA are holding firm as well. I agree 5m for Nicholls would be incredibly cheap. 5mil would get a huge no, while laughing down the phone at Luton from me, Nicholls has basically still got 3 years left on his deal also. It also seems Luton can't push that hard for a player, as if you have won promotion to the prem, if 5m give or take is as far as you can go, then most teams wont even talk to you for 5m these days. We have in Nicholls easily the best keeper in the divison. Therefore if Luton or anyone else want him, cough up 10m or don't even bother us, that is what i hope Cartwright/Nagle/Edwards have put out there. |
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Post by hartyhtfc on Jul 31, 2023 16:15:12 GMT 1
Listen Dean Hoyle - wet his pants and let LOB go along with Toff for less than one of there release clauses. If Luton came in under DH for Nicholls for 50 quid, Hoyle would have personally driven him down.
Nagle was quite adamant that players leave and only leave, when the manager thinks he can either do better or its good for him and the player.
Nagle has taken us over, i asume from what him, edwards and cartwright have said, they do not want to fail. Plus we are missing the important point, of does Nichools actually want to leave ? this isn't notts forrest, its Luton. Who i will be shocked stay up. I will be shocked they can offer him life changing money. Nicholls got a big upgrade on his contract only a year ago, with an option. Forrest had a realistic chance of staying up, Luton is a different story.
Most players would like a crack at the Premier League and get a big increase in their wages. I would guess, like yourself that keeping goal behind the Luton defence would not be the best place to show off your abilities though. I would not let him go for £5M though and it seems Blackburn and WBA are holding firm as well. I'd definitely not sell him for £5m, but if I was Nicholls and a Premier League club came in for me, I'd be begging for a move. Nick Pope was a 2nd choice keeper for an average Burnley team when they went up - Heaton then got injured, Pope played well, and he's now a mainstay in the England team. Sam Johnstone played well for a dire WBA team, he's now starting at Palace and also in the England team regularly. I also think that as good as he is, if we are offered £9m or so, we sell Nicholls and get in a Premier League loan keeper. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 31, 2023 16:27:16 GMT 1
Selling Nicholls ( however understandable this is ) would be a game changer for us.
He’s our most important player in my opinion and not just for his goalkeeping.
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Post by twyford on Jul 31, 2023 16:29:13 GMT 1
Dean would have caved in at £5M. This would test the mettle of the new owner and to what figure he would our only jewel. Listen Dean Hoyle - wet his pants and let LOB go along with Toff for less than one of there release clauses. If Luton came in under DH for Nicholls for 50 quid, Hoyle would have personally driven him down.
Nagle was quite adamant that players leave and only leave, when the manager thinks he can either do better or its good for him and the player.
Nagle has taken us over, i asume from what him, edwards and cartwright have said, they do not want to fail.
Plus we are missing the important point, of does Nichools actually want to leave ? this isn't notts forrest, its Luton. Who i will be shocked stay up. I will be shocked they can offer him life changing money. Nicholls got a big upgrade on his contract only a year ago, with an option. Forrest had a realistic chance of staying up, Luton is a different story.
Ridiculous to say Hoyle would let Nicholls go for fifty quid. O'Brien / Toffolo may have been sold for less than the reputed release clause on O'Brien's contract (not seen any rumour to suggest Toffolo had any such clause) but still went for a sizeable sum which enabled the club to continue to exist - if we were on the verge of administration before the Nagle takeover, chances are we'd have gone in to insolvency without the £8m (or whatever the figure was) that the pair were sold for. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 31, 2023 16:39:21 GMT 1
Listen Dean Hoyle - wet his pants and let LOB go along with Toff for less than one of there release clauses. If Luton came in under DH for Nicholls for 50 quid, Hoyle would have personally driven him down.
Nagle was quite adamant that players leave and only leave, when the manager thinks he can either do better or its good for him and the player.
Nagle has taken us over, i asume from what him, edwards and cartwright have said, they do not want to fail. Plus we are missing the important point, of does Nichools actually want to leave ? this isn't notts forrest, its Luton. Who i will be shocked stay up. I will be shocked they can offer him life changing money. Nicholls got a big upgrade on his contract only a year ago, with an option. Forrest had a realistic chance of staying up, Luton is a different story.
Ridiculous to say Hoyle would let Nicholls go for fifty quid. O'Brien / Toffolo may have been sold for less than the reputed release clause on O'Brien's contract (not seen any rumour to suggest Toffolo had any such clause) but still went for a sizeable sum which enabled the club to continue to exist - if we were on the verge of administration before the Nagle takeover, chances are we'd have gone in to insolvency without the £8m (or whatever the figure was) that the pair were sold for. I understood that the threat of administration was just down to Phils administrators trying it on to screw whatever it could out of the club. Dean had to threaten administration or the takeover would not have been able to go through. |
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Post by dugnet on Jul 31, 2023 16:39:30 GMT 1
Selling Nicholls ( however understandable this is ) would be a game changer for us. He’s our most important player in my opinion and not just for his goalkeeping. Unless there is an unavoidable deal, for both club and/or player, it's never a good idea to sell your best players. If, and it is an if, this happened it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask where this changes (assuming it would) our current financial challenges. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 31, 2023 16:40:57 GMT 1
Selling Nicholls ( however understandable this is ) would be a game changer for us. He’s our most important player in my opinion and not just for his goalkeeping. Unless there is an unavoidable deal, for both club and/or player, it's never a good idea to sell your best players. If, and it is an if, this happened it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask where this changes (assuming it would) our current financial challenges. How could it not? |
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Post by dugnet on Jul 31, 2023 16:47:23 GMT 1
Unless there is an unavoidable deal, for both club and/or player, it's never a good idea to sell your best players. If, and it is an if, this happened it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask where this changes (assuming it would) our current financial challenges. How could it not? You're right, but having the apparent limitations clarified would be helpful so we all understand. I think I understand, thanks to Mr Chicken, but knowing for sure would be good. I appreciate a straightforward story. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 31, 2023 16:51:27 GMT 1
Listen Dean Hoyle - wet his pants and let LOB go along with Toff for less than one of there release clauses. If Luton came in under DH for Nicholls for 50 quid, Hoyle would have personally driven him down.
Nagle was quite adamant that players leave and only leave, when the manager thinks he can either do better or its good for him and the player.
Nagle has taken us over, i asume from what him, edwards and cartwright have said, they do not want to fail.
Plus we are missing the important point, of does Nichools actually want to leave ? this isn't notts forrest, its Luton. Who i will be shocked stay up. I will be shocked they can offer him life changing money. Nicholls got a big upgrade on his contract only a year ago, with an option. Forrest had a realistic chance of staying up, Luton is a different story.
Ridiculous to say Hoyle would let Nicholls go for fifty quid. O'Brien / Toffolo may have been sold for less than the reputed release clause on O'Brien's contract (not seen any rumour to suggest Toffolo had any such clause) but still went for a sizeable sum which enabled the club to continue to exist - if we were on the verge of administration before the Nagle takeover, chances are we'd have gone in to insolvency without the £8m (or whatever the figure was) that the pair were sold for. Had we had offers of just enough for Nichols and others, I believe Hoyle would have sanctioned them. It was altogether a very disappointing end to his time as owner, even though we were within 2 goals of premier league status again. The current situation simply being the fall out from one bad financial decision after another.🤔 |
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Post by exeter2terrier on Jul 31, 2023 17:01:23 GMT 1
When we signed Maxwell I immediately thought if Nicholls goes he will be our #1 for the season with Chapman backup. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why we signed him.
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Post by Lovechops on Jul 31, 2023 17:15:13 GMT 1
When we signed Maxwell I immediately thought if Nicholls goes he will be our #1 for the season with Chapman backup. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why we signed him. We signed Maxwell because Bilo wanted to play more games ie move to where he’s playing consistently. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 31, 2023 17:19:19 GMT 1
When we signed Maxwell I immediately thought if Nicholls goes he will be our #1 for the season with Chapman backup. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why we signed him. I can see your reasoning but he was never the quality needed to be out number one. |
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Post by royrace on Jul 31, 2023 17:48:25 GMT 1
Nagle isn't the one who needs the connections. That's why he hired Cartwright. And he does have connections. Bit confused why we have hired him having worked in the US, we’ve got overseas visas to play with and we aren’t targeting the same North American markets he’s just been working in? He has previous experience in this country with Stoke, I must admit the idea of appointing English staff who have been working in the USL doesn't necessarily suggest we're getting the best, but way too early to judge and they seem to have a good working relationship with one and other which will hopefully help. To be fair to Cartwright it seems there are some serious constraints when it comes to wages/fees which will make an already difficult job even harder. Unless of course they're playing hardball and about to unveil 3 new quality signings. |
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Post by royrace on Jul 31, 2023 17:56:09 GMT 1
You're right, but having the apparent limitations clarified would be helpful so we all understand. I think I understand, thanks to Mr Chicken, but knowing for sure would be good. I appreciate a straightforward story. Absolutely this. All we've had so far is vague talk of financial restrictions. The transfer business has been miles away from what even the most grounded of fans was expecting. A straightforward story would be very nice and at the end of the day what exactly is stopping them from providing one? I was hoping for a bit more transparency from the new regime after Deans tenure where he seemed to get more secretive with each passing year. |
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Post by Yesss on Jul 31, 2023 17:57:06 GMT 1
Bit confused why we have hired him having worked in the US, we’ve got overseas visas to play with and we aren’t targeting the same North American markets he’s just been working in? He has previous experience in this country with Stoke, I must admit the idea of appointing English staff who have been working in the USL doesn't necessarily suggest we're getting the best, but way too early to judge and they seem to have a good working relationship with one and other which will hopefully help. To be fair to Cartwright it seems there are some serious constraints when it comes to wages/fees which will make an already difficult job even harder. Unless of course they're playing hardball and about to unveil 3 new quality signings. I wonder how many more we need to get shut of & loan out before we can sign 1 more? |
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Post by ruggedivy on Jul 31, 2023 17:58:03 GMT 1
If we sell Nichols this late in the window then I'd say it won't win many favours for the new board. A critical player for us and not easy to replace no matter how much money we get for him
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Post by goodbet on Jul 31, 2023 18:05:46 GMT 1
If we sell Nichols this late in the window then I'd say it won't win many favours for the new board. A critical player for us and not easy to replace no matter how much money we get for him His communication to the back four makes us a lot more solid, this is above his standard goalkeeping skills. We could replace him with just as good a keeper but we could be a lot worse off defensively. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 31, 2023 18:07:37 GMT 1
Pretty sure it was a lad from the SPL. Think they are still looking for a starting GK Kaminski at blackburn ....... the locals think hes going. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 31, 2023 18:13:11 GMT 1
Kaminski at blackburn ....... the locals think hes going. I hope that their locals are better informed than the locals around here are! |
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Post by warnockbrasil on Jul 31, 2023 18:19:27 GMT 1
I feel lucky karoma was resigned at this point. Hopefully the PL loan market goes our way. Not sure Nagle has the connections or gusto to use it properly. Neil certaintly does , but how much power or say does he have? Nagle isn't the one who needs the connections. That's why he hired Cartwright. And he does have connections. USA!!! USA!!!!!!!!!! idk man , I hope. Someone working in the USL does not give me confidence. |
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