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Post by thomo on Aug 1, 2023 17:32:21 GMT 1
Really hope we have some decent signings lined up. Take the rose tinted spectacles off and the state of the squad and first team is pretty shocking for this level. Can't see a couple of U20 Prem loans making a huge difference either. It's completely bizarre. Defeat to Plymouth could be a huge wake up call for many.
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Post by araucaria on Aug 1, 2023 17:45:03 GMT 1
They have just announced Myola Kuharevych from Troyes who was on loan as Hibs last year. Undiscosed fee but seems like it would be in that ball park based on his profile. Hibs fans seem to think he’s a cracking player. Big bastard as well at 6 ft 3. Oggy and Glennon would have a panic attack saying that name though. It's Mykola Kukharevych; lucky escape when we collectively struggle to spell Ruffels (although predictive text might be responsible for several Ruffles). |
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Post by Dan on Aug 1, 2023 17:45:19 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team.
I've broken down the squad below (minus youth players). Left out Rhodes, High and Mahoney who are probably going to be moved on. If we get a starting striker and another central/attacking midfielder before the end of August I'd be happy with that. We don't need 12 new players every summer. The striker is obviously an important signing and we'll be in a better position to judge the summer business once he's in the door...
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Post by Ladaphosen on Aug 1, 2023 17:51:30 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. I've broken down the squad below (minus youth players). Left out Rhodes, High and Mahoney who are probably going to be moved on. If we get a starting striker and another central/attacking midfielder before the end of August I'd be happy with that. We don't need 12 new players every summer. The striker is obviously an important signing and we'll be in a better position to judge the summer business once he's in the door... Keepers Nicholls Maxwell Right Backs Turton Edwards Left Backs Ruffels Headley Jackson Centre Halfs Pearson Helik Nakayama Lees Centre Mids Hogg REG Kasumu Rudoni Wingers Thomas Koroma Diarra Jones Strikers Ward Harratt Hudlin Given it is unlikely we see Hogg, Turton, Lees and Nakayama (maybe Kasumu) fit for the start of the season, with the players you've just listed we couldn't fill new 9 man bench. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Aug 1, 2023 17:56:29 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. I've broken down the squad below (minus youth players). Left out Rhodes, High and Mahoney who are probably going to be moved on. If we get a starting striker and another central/attacking midfielder before the end of August I'd be happy with that. We don't need 12 new players every summer. The striker is obviously an important signing and we'll be in a better position to judge the summer business once he's in the door... Keepers Nicholls Maxwell Right Backs Turton Edwards Left Backs Ruffels Headley Jackson Centre Halfs Pearson Helik Nakayama Lees Centre Mids Hogg REG Kasumu Rudoni Wingers Thomas Koroma Diarra Jones Strikers Ward Harratt Hudlin If Warnock keeps us up with that, make no mistake he’s performed another miracle. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 1, 2023 17:56:29 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. I've broken down the squad below (minus youth players). Left out Rhodes, High and Mahoney who are probably going to be moved on. If we get a starting striker and another central/attacking midfielder before the end of August I'd be happy with that. We don't need 12 new players every summer. The striker is obviously an important signing and we'll be in a better position to judge the summer business once he's in the door... Keepers Nicholls Maxwell Right Backs Turton Edwards Left Backs Ruffels Headley Jackson Centre Halfs Pearson Helik Nakayama Lees Centre Mids Hogg REG Kasumu Rudoni Wingers Thomas Koroma Diarra Jones Strikers Ward Harratt Hudlin That's 22 players, of which atleased 3 are injured. We'll be struggling to raise a 21 player matchday squad on Saturday. That's embarrassing for a championship club. We need some quality additions, not only improve the first team but to give us a full, competitive matchday squad for NW to choose from. It's the least he deserves after keeping us out of league 1. Yes there's still time but we really needed to hit the ground running, not scraping around for fit players come the first game of the season. |
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Post by pilks123 on Aug 1, 2023 18:00:10 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. The 15 thing I mentioned is based on the pretense that these players will be needed at some point to cover minutes either through injury/absence or just normal substitutions. Imagine the situation, we've 3 games in a week. 5 of that list of yours are out injured. 1 or 2 knackered/unfit. Another suspended due to bookings. Yes people have come back from loan/injury but do you not agree the squad is pretty thin as it stands?. We're a knock to Ward away from starting Hudlin at home against Leicester. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 1, 2023 18:00:29 GMT 1
You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. It’s fucking West Brom not Barcelona! West Brom are in financial difficulties, have not been pulling up any trees since they got relegated into this division, oh and guess what.. their town isn’t paradise either. We now have a new owner/project with a manager (albeit short-term) that is proven to get the most out players careers, and can therefore put Maja on a good path. The financial situation is obviously one we lack clarity on right now with how deep Nagles pockets are, how much he’s willing to invest and also how restricted he currently is with FFP. But for a free, we should at least be gauging Maja’s wage expectations and looking to entice the lad to come. This constant berating the club is so boring.. as a fanbase we love to moan that we’ve been labelled as the underdog internally for too long, yet the same fans love to moan about everything that is potentially wrong about the club and how the grass seems greener everywhere else..
Yawn.Who's moaning? Who's berating the club? I'm certainly not. Have I said that there are things wrong with the club? No. I'm simply being realistic. And honest. It's just the way that things are. Huddersfield as a club and a location in general isn't particularly appealing. |
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Post by Dan on Aug 1, 2023 18:04:07 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. I've broken down the squad below (minus youth players). Left out Rhodes, High and Mahoney who are probably going to be moved on. If we get a starting striker and another central/attacking midfielder before the end of August I'd be happy with that. We don't need 12 new players every summer. The striker is obviously an important signing and we'll be in a better position to judge the summer business once he's in the door... Keepers Nicholls Maxwell Right Backs Turton Edwards Left Backs Ruffels Headley Jackson Centre Halfs Pearson Helik Nakayama Lees Centre Mids Hogg REG Kasumu Rudoni Wingers Thomas Koroma Diarra Jones Strikers Ward Harratt Hudlin That's 22 players, of which atleased 3 are injured. We'll be struggling to raise a 21 player matchday squad on Saturday. That's embarrassing for a championship club. We need some quality additions, not only improve the first team but to give us a full, competitive matchday squad for NW to choose from. It's the least he deserves after keeping us out of league 1. Yes there's still time but we really needed to hit the ground running, not scraping around for fit players come the first game of the season. 9 on the bench is a ridiculous rule change really, and I'd imagine most Championship benches will be padded out with youth players who have never played a game. I remember some PL games last year and I'd never heard of some of the subs on Liverpool/Man U's benches. Completely agree we need some quality additions - a striker and a midfielder. I just don't think it's necessary for us to be signing any other players. 2 decent options for each position is all that is needed. It's not realistic to have 26 quality players with Championship experience as 10 or more of them aren't going to get a game each week. |
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Post by mallyb on Aug 1, 2023 18:05:14 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. I've broken down the squad below (minus youth players). Left out Rhodes, High and Mahoney who are probably going to be moved on. If we get a starting striker and another central/attacking midfielder before the end of August I'd be happy with that. We don't need 12 new players every summer. The striker is obviously an important signing and we'll be in a better position to judge the summer business once he's in the door... Keepers Nicholls Maxwell Right Backs Turton Edwards Left Backs Ruffels Headley Jackson Centre Halfs Pearson Helik Nakayama Lees Centre Mids Hogg REG Kasumu Rudoni Wingers Thomas Koroma Diarra Jones Strikers Ward Harratt Hudlin That is scary, between injuries and players not ready for week in week out championship football yet I make that 12 players and 2 of them are keepers. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 1, 2023 18:10:02 GMT 1
It’s fucking West Brom not Barcelona! West Brom are in financial difficulties, have not been pulling up any trees since they got relegated into this division, oh and guess what.. their town isn’t paradise either. We now have a new owner/project with a manager (albeit short-term) that is proven to get the most out players careers, and can therefore put Maja on a good path. The financial situation is obviously one we lack clarity on right now with how deep Nagles pockets are, how much he’s willing to invest and also how restricted he currently is with FFP. But for a free, we should at least be gauging Maja’s wage expectations and looking to entice the lad to come. This constant berating the club is so boring.. as a fanbase we love to moan that we’ve been labelled as the underdog internally for too long, yet the same fans love to moan about everything that is potentially wrong about the club and how the grass seems greener everywhere else..
Yawn.Who's moaning? Who's berating the club? I'm certainly not. Have I said that there are things wrong with the club? No. I'm simply being realistic. And honest. It's just the way that things are. Huddersfield as a club and a location in general isn't particularly appealing. Can someone create a message board where everyone has the same opinion and everyone is happy with everything. Might be boring though. Nothing wrong with different opinions is there? I am sure there are going to be some good weeks plus some bad ones.. hold on tight as the forum will get feisty 🤣 |
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Post by prepare on Aug 1, 2023 18:11:15 GMT 1
Says the guy who thinks he knows transfer news and knows nothing agree the piss take his him!! |
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Post by Dan on Aug 1, 2023 18:18:54 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. The 15 thing I mentioned is based on the pretense that these players will be needed at some point to cover minutes either through injury/absence or just normal substitutions. Imagine the situation, we've 3 games in a week. 5 of that list of yours are out injured. 1 or 2 knackered/unfit. Another suspended due to bookings. Yes people have come back from loan/injury but do you not agree the squad is pretty thin as it stands?. We're a knock to Ward away from starting Hudlin at home against Leicester. I'm sure there will be times we need to call on Spencer, Ayina, Austerfield, Harratt etc to fill bench places and maybe for a start or 2. That's what they're there for. Definitely agree we need a starting striker like I said, along with a midfielder ideally. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 1, 2023 18:21:55 GMT 1
Josh bowler heading to cardiff on loan. Even a team under a transfer embargo is spending more than us. Absolute piss take this. 🛌💦 |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 1, 2023 18:30:36 GMT 1
It’s fucking West Brom not Barcelona! West Brom are in financial difficulties, have not been pulling up any trees since they got relegated into this division, oh and guess what.. their town isn’t paradise either. We now have a new owner/project with a manager (albeit short-term) that is proven to get the most out players careers, and can therefore put Maja on a good path. The financial situation is obviously one we lack clarity on right now with how deep Nagles pockets are, how much he’s willing to invest and also how restricted he currently is with FFP. But for a free, we should at least be gauging Maja’s wage expectations and looking to entice the lad to come. This constant berating the club is so boring.. as a fanbase we love to moan that we’ve been labelled as the underdog internally for too long, yet the same fans love to moan about everything that is potentially wrong about the club and how the grass seems greener everywhere else..
Yawn.Who's moaning? Who's berating the club? I'm certainly not. Have I said that there are things wrong with the club? No. I'm simply being realistic.And honest. It's just the way that things are. Huddersfield as a club and a location in general isn't particularly appealing. More to do with the general transfer situation and some views on this board. I've said this before. Pessimists moan about the result and realists accept the situation and do nothing about it... but it is optimists that have advanced the human race. For an optimist, something goes wrong and they evaluate the situation and try to put it right. I'd rather be a born optimist... which I am, rather than than just negative or accepting. Let's hope that the majority of employees and management at HTFC are optimists (I'm sure NW is). The And He Takes That Chance podcast, reviewing the 23/24 Season was depressing in its review of the season ahead... a hard listen But... I don't think that the majority of fans feel this way. This is because we have a month to bring in 2/3 players which we will, also just look at who was near the top of the form league last season, and we have the same players this. With a couple of signings for areas already identified, we'll be OK. |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 1, 2023 18:51:29 GMT 1
Seems to me Mr,Nagle has brought in a lot of people to do nothing but find clubs where we can send our {not ready for the 1st team} players. And sign no one in particular, who are cheap as chips. Come on ram, you are usually one of the more sensible posters. We know what the status is this term, and in all fairness barr one or two, did we re really think any of those leaving this time would have made it at Town? Best off getting rid. Let's see how Saturday goes before we ratchet up the sharpening of the pitchforks! |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 1, 2023 18:54:50 GMT 1
Josh bowler heading to cardiff on loan. Even a team under a transfer embargo is spending more than us. Absolute piss take this. There are 71 other clubs in the EFL to go support. Feel free. |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Aug 1, 2023 19:17:52 GMT 1
What a depressing window so far, started with such excitement and potential.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 1, 2023 19:23:13 GMT 1
I've not read much of this thread, so someone has probably done a breakdown of the squad already. But it's an important point, as I see the old 'but we've let 15 players go and got 2 in' crop up a few times. This doesn't account for players back from injury, loan and who've graduated from the B team. The 15 thing I mentioned is based on the pretense that these players will be needed at some point to cover minutes either through injury/absence or just normal substitutions. Imagine the situation, we've 3 games in a week. 5 of that list of yours are out injured. 1 or 2 knackered/unfit. Another suspended due to bookings. Yes people have come back from loan/injury but do you not agree the squad is pretty thin as it stands?. We're a knock to Ward away from starting Hudlin at home against Leicester. The likelihood is that the centre of our midfield will consist of REG, Rudi and Diarra even if there are no further injuries. To re-emphasise - our most experienced available midfielder had his 22nd birthday a few weeks ago. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 1, 2023 19:48:36 GMT 1
So how strict is this budget if we suddenly have an injury crisis in the next couple of weeks? It'd be interesting to see what happens.
I suspect the purse strings would suddenly be loosened
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Post by townian on Aug 1, 2023 19:56:16 GMT 1
The 15 thing I mentioned is based on the pretense that these players will be needed at some point to cover minutes either through injury/absence or just normal substitutions. Imagine the situation, we've 3 games in a week. 5 of that list of yours are out injured. 1 or 2 knackered/unfit. Another suspended due to bookings. Yes people have come back from loan/injury but do you not agree the squad is pretty thin as it stands?. We're a knock to Ward away from starting Hudlin at home against Leicester. The likelihood is that the centre of our midfield will consist of REG, Rudi and Diarra even if there are no further injuries. To re-emphasise - our most experienced available midfielder had his 22nd birthday a few weeks ago. REG is 24, the same age as Declan Rice. Diarra is 20, the same age as Jude Bellingham. Rudoni sits in the middle. Age is irrelevant at either end of the scale. Ability and attitude matter much more. |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 1, 2023 19:57:13 GMT 1
Clearly not under a transfer embargo, are they. Bit of a special situation at Cardiff, they are under a fee embargo whereby they can't pay a fee for either a permanent or loan signing. Deets are here - www.efl.com/news/2023/june/efl-statement-cardiff-city/This applied to Jan 23 window and this current summer window. After appeal they got the conditions relaxed for Jan 24 window whereby they'll be able to spend on signings at the next window. So everyone they've brought in has been either a free transfer or loan without a fee upfront. Impressive business with their hands tied all things considering. I'm sure we'd all be happy to have had Grant, Meite, Ramsey and Bowler in the door. But wait we're supposed to have faith that we'll be fine come the end of the window. I know this. They’re not under a transfer embargo; a ban of trade. They’re subject to trade sanctions. The clarity is important. Hence my post. Because lots of people keep making reference to this erroneously and using it as a battering ram to suit their diatribe. Cardiff’s hands are tied no more than ours. We can pick from the same pool. —— So, here’s a question for all whilst everyone is looking outward: with all the shit that’s gone on at Cardif (the change of shirt colour, the badge, the manager merry-go-around, the bleeding of assets, the Sala affair, the sponsorship fiasco, the late return of taxes and financial statements etc etc…) would you prefer / trust Vincent Tan? I see a reckless owner willing to gamble a institution and taking a club to oblivion. |
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Post by rockwall on Aug 1, 2023 19:57:16 GMT 1
A lot of Football Manager cheat mode specialists on this thread....
1. We all know, even the owner, that we need a striker. The club are working in this. Rather them do this diligently than bring another Mipo in.
2. NW can only select 11 to start. We have 2 players for each position. The squad is thin, but what is the point in bringing people in to fill numbers. We have been down that road and that's what put us in this position.
3. We need a stabilising season. NW won't be here in 12 months, what's the point in bringing players in on 2-4 year contracts if then the successer doesn't fancy them?
4. Give Kev a chance. Judge in 12 months time. If our transfer strategy is the same this time next year, then I shall be concerned.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 1, 2023 19:58:14 GMT 1
So how strict is this budget if we suddenly have an injury crisis in the next couple of weeks? It'd be interesting to see what happens. I suspect the purse strings would suddenly be loosened Im not sure given Hoyle submitted the budget and it was clearly a budget set for him still being in the chair. It therefore hamstrings the present incumbent to some tune??? Many bad decisions and bad timings over the past few seasons.🤔 |
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Post by duncfost01 on Aug 1, 2023 20:00:22 GMT 1
We have money but we can’t spend it due to the over-spending of the last two years.
Not sure what some aren’t getting.
We all know if I could have a moan - I would - but that’s the rules.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 1, 2023 20:00:40 GMT 1
So how strict is this budget if we suddenly have an injury crisis in the next couple of weeks? It'd be interesting to see what happens. I suspect the purse strings would suddenly be loosened Im not sure given Hoyle submitted the budget and it was clearly a budget set for him still being in the chair. It therefore hamstrings the present incumbent to some tune??? Many bad decisions and bad timings over the past few seasons.🤔 I haven't heard about these budgets being so strictly adhered to before though. How would any team be able to keep to them if they suddenly had half their starting 11 injured for 6 months. Surely there has to be a % you can exceed it by |
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Post by thomo on Aug 1, 2023 20:07:43 GMT 1
We have money but we can’t spend it due to the over-spending of the last two years. Not sure what some aren’t getting. We all know if I could have a moan - I would - but that’s the rules. What overspending? We spent peanuts for this level - we didn't lose anywhere near £12m a year as permitted. We still had parachute income too. So how the hell did we overspend and if that was overspending god help us in the future. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 1, 2023 20:14:02 GMT 1
We have money but we can’t spend it due to the over-spending of the last two years. Not sure what some aren’t getting. We all know if I could have a moan - I would - but that’s the rules. What overspending? We spent peanuts for this level - we didn't lose anywhere near £12m a year as permitted. We still had parachute income too. So how the hell did we overspend and if that was overspending god help us in the future. This budget issue isn't related to FFP as far as I'm aware. It's a new one on me but apparently clubs submit a budget and then cannot deviate from that by the looks of it |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 1, 2023 20:16:34 GMT 1
What overspending? We spent peanuts for this level - we didn't lose anywhere near £12m a year as permitted. We still had parachute income too. So how the hell did we overspend and if that was overspending god help us in the future. This budget issue isn't related to FFP as far as I'm aware. It's a new one on me but apparently clubs submit a budget and then cannot deviate from that by the looks of it Same boat. That's my understanding, plus a new one on me too! Seems odd. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 1, 2023 20:21:35 GMT 1
This budget issue isn't related to FFP as far as I'm aware. It's a new one on me but apparently clubs submit a budget and then cannot deviate from that by the looks of it Same boat. That's my understanding, plus a new one on me too! Seems odd. What's the punishment for going outside this budget? I find it all a bit hard to believe. No doubt the complete truth will be locked away forever thanks to NDAs |
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