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Post by andyeastleake on Sept 18, 2023 14:09:33 GMT 1
In summary then, Neil Warnock is leaving a bit earlier than he envisaged. TBF to give a fuller picture, I think the sentence should have finished with......or wanted.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 18, 2023 14:09:42 GMT 1
Maybe so. But I watched Ruffles on Saturday. He’s a player transformed. I agree. He has been excellent. I was only looking at who was represented by that agency due to others alluding to the fact that there is some issue with NW's son in all of this. However good he has been, most wouldn't have given Ruffels another contract. Not disputing that at all. I’m amazed how much he has improved. Now looks so composed when before he always seemed panicked. Guess it’s a great example of how important a manager is to a team.
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Post by townrwe on Sept 18, 2023 14:13:21 GMT 1
I thought the time to move on was the summer... him staying on was a poor choices, but now he's here then he should have been given long enough to keep us up.
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Post by mosher on Sept 18, 2023 14:14:11 GMT 1
I hope nobody misses the game on Wednesday now. Time to give him the send off he deserves. Yep, already told (asked?) the boss I'm finishing an hour early
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Post by mosher on Sept 18, 2023 14:17:35 GMT 1
Seriously folks, this playlist is better than some of the Town games I've seen. Currently on radio Leeds......"If I let you go" by Westlife. I wonder if they'd be trolling so much if it was L***s replacing the manager? Not that I care, it's been quite funny seeing you guys post what they're playing. Especially as Radio L***s United and their fans don't care about wickle Huddersfield.
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Post by Ladaphosen on Sept 18, 2023 14:18:30 GMT 1
The club have just put themselves under a tremendous amount of (unnecessary) pressure.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 18, 2023 14:20:34 GMT 1
"I can't tell you who the new manager is because they've not told me, so I assume it's someone I don't like!" - Wilder it is then Muscat Even with this news it's a bit early to be hitting the wine
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Post by araucaria on Sept 18, 2023 14:22:38 GMT 1
I agree. He has been excellent. I was only looking at who was represented by that agency due to others alluding to the fact that there is some issue with NW's son in all of this. However good he has been, most wouldn't have given Ruffels another contract. Not disputing that at all. I’m amazed how much he has improved. Now looks so composed when before he always seemed panicked. Guess it’s a great example of how important a manager is to a team. Ruffels can only be said to be fully rehabilitated when people can spell his name right (but to be fair predictive text changed this effort to 'Ruffles', so a lot of it might be a failure to proof-read what has been written). I think that in the last 60 years Town have twice replaced a very good manager with an equally good or better one - Greaves for Johnston and Warnock for Buxton. So never two without three then, perhaps?
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 18, 2023 14:25:10 GMT 1
So let’s get this right. Despite the crock flying around on social media over the weekend, Warnock isn’t ill, his wife isn’t ill and the travelling up and down from Cornwall is not a big issue. He’s going because they want him out likely after his response to Nagle’s tweet following the Norwich game. Dress it up all you want but that’s the reason, subordination. So for a second time in his Town career, he’s been shafted and after delivering what most thought impossible when he was appointed, Championship survival. “Thanks for everything Neil, now fuck off” is how it reads to me. We’ve just given the boot to our best opportunity of staying (scraping) up another season. I almost hope it comes back to bite us on the arse, he gets another job and turns us over next March with another team. I know the fans will be right behind him on Wednesday night and hope the board get the messsge cos they sure as hell haven’t been listening since July. And the new guy better be some sort of world beater as anything less and he’s already up against it. Thanks for everything Neil, a true legend! There would be a certain irony if NW took over at another relegation threatened club next Febraury and guides them to safety at our expense.
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Post by mosher on Sept 18, 2023 14:28:11 GMT 1
Please don't put that smug picture up again TBF if we had as little talent as Buzz and got the job he did, we'd be smug as fuck too
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Post by samhudds on Sept 18, 2023 14:28:49 GMT 1
Having thought about it, this decision was made prior to the West Brom game, with just 1 point, and a lot of grumpy fans.
I wonder if the decision was rushed due to the poor start, rather than an opportunity too good to turn down
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 18, 2023 14:30:13 GMT 1
The lack of comprehension on here is truly amazing. All parties have been open and seemingly honest. I think this has been done sensitively and respectfully toward Neil and his team Patronising comment. It's about timing. The new manager has to work with a squad made up mainly of players that were failing to deal with the demands of the championship before Neil arrived. I don't think some fans comprehend how much Neil made bad players into good ones (or inconsistent ones into consistent ones) and how quickly that could be reversed. I feel the new manager could be in for a rude awakening and with 18 games until he can bring his own players in, we could be in the shit by Xmas. I'd have no problem if the new manager had 5 or 6 games before he could bring new players in. Rubbish who am I patronising , sharing my observations and opinion
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Post by detox on Sept 18, 2023 14:31:40 GMT 1
NW didn't want a 3 year contract I presume,so effectively excluded himself..
It was always going to happen, even though it had a one year lable on it most thought he'd leave by january..I did .
I wonder how overwhelmed we're going to be about the new manager...when he's announced.
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Post by Lightcliffe Terrier on Sept 18, 2023 14:32:57 GMT 1
Certainly a brave decision but at least it shows the new guys have the courage of their convictions. It makes the lack of activity in the transfer window make a bit more sense now. That said I’m gutted to see them go, they reconnected the fans with the club. True legends
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Post by rdb on Sept 18, 2023 14:34:32 GMT 1
It was always going to happen but the timing appears premature, to the point where even Warnock is surprised that it has come so early. He’s clearly got some players (possibly all) playing to their full potential. There will be huge pressure on the new manager (and owners) and there is a chance it could turn very sour very quickly. Let’s hope the club have got the right man but I’m very disappointed to see Warnock and Jeppo leave so soon into the season.
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Post by King Neil on Sept 18, 2023 14:43:48 GMT 1
Neil always tells the story of the time he went for an interview for the Derby job...he said I'll get you promoted and then you can find a replacement for me
He didn't get the job...the chairman told him they were looking for someone longer term
The bloke who got the job was sacked 4 months later!!
League 1 here we come
And good luck Neil..I'm sure you will be back at the jss later this season for 3 points
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Post by Drew Peacock on Sept 18, 2023 14:43:54 GMT 1
Couple of screaming babies balling their eyes out in their prams cos they've got no toys.
Couple of prams being pushed round, empty cos the baby's been chucked out as well.
Another couple of prams have been lobbed in the Calder.
Onwards and upwards!
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 18, 2023 14:45:27 GMT 1
A few clues from Warnock in the presser.
"They want to go their own way, and you've got to respect that"
Stevie Nicks incoming, Ali G as assistant. You heard it here first.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 18, 2023 14:48:59 GMT 1
Having read the press conference, I think folk need to calm down. Warnock himself said he only expected to be here until Xmas so that would have been another 3 months. That's it!
I don't think there is any way the board would be stupid enough to let him go without bringing in an appointment that is not only a winner but someone that would get the fans onside.
It also makes sense why we didn't spend loads in the summer. Why let a manager who will only be with us a few months spend all the transfer kitty?
He leaves us mid table and in a strong position to push forward. He also leaves us with his legend status well and truly in tact.
Timing is everything. Let's see who we bring in before we shit the bed.
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 18, 2023 14:50:27 GMT 1
"I can't tell you who the new manager is because they've not told me, so I assume it's someone I don't like!" - Wilder it is then Muscat I can see it already, we get relegated and the entire of twitter simultaneously posts that video of Warnock saying 'serves you right for fucking Muscat that'
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Post by jasrick on Sept 18, 2023 14:51:06 GMT 1
Feels like some mega over reactions on here. We always knew Neil was a stop gap until the owner found his new manager. This was agreed on all sides.
Neil is no doubt disappointed as he freely admits he’s enjoying himself at the moment but if he was pissed off by this does anyone really think he’d be toeing the line?! Not how Neil operates, surely we all know that much!
Thanks for the memories Neil, now let’s see who is to be our next leader…
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 14:53:43 GMT 1
The lack of comprehension on here is truly amazing. All parties have been open and seemingly honest. I think this has been done sensitively and respectfully toward Neil and his team It's amazing how we all see things differently. I respect your opinions as a good poster, they are clearly handling this as diplomatically as possible, but reading Neil's comments, he's one unhappy bunny and there has been a fall out with him and R Kev.
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Post by thomo on Sept 18, 2023 14:56:26 GMT 1
Patronising comment. It's about timing. The new manager has to work with a squad made up mainly of players that were failing to deal with the demands of the championship before Neil arrived. I don't think some fans comprehend how much Neil made bad players into good ones (or inconsistent ones into consistent ones) and how quickly that could be reversed. I feel the new manager could be in for a rude awakening and with 18 games until he can bring his own players in, we could be in the shit by Xmas. I'd have no problem if the new manager had 5 or 6 games before he could bring new players in. Rubbish who am I patronising , sharing my observations and opinion You're saying town fans lack comprehension when there are plenty of legitimate concerns why this could be a bad move. Just because others don't share your opinion doesn't make them lack comprehension (which is a polite way of calling them thick)
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 18, 2023 14:57:25 GMT 1
Right Stoke Wednesday night is nailed on for a town win now isn’t it. The script says so
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Post by boooothy on Sept 18, 2023 15:00:58 GMT 1
Right Stoke Wednesday night is nailed on for a town win now isn’t it. The script says so I’m sticking a few quid on
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Post by goodbet on Sept 18, 2023 15:01:44 GMT 1
99% of all managerial appointments come from a position of weakness. Either the club is in the relegation zone 3/4 way through the season AKA town, the club has just been relegated or the club is expected to fight for promotion and isn't doing so. This actually makes sense, as long as the new man is up to standard of course. If their number 1 target is available and is only available right now then now is the time to do it. It's a risk of course but the club must really fancy the new guy. We hope or just want rid of the current one.
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Post by SuperMrTerrier on Sept 18, 2023 15:02:48 GMT 1
Let's consider the theory that it was Schofield and Fotheringham that were exceptions rather than Warnock. It wasn't long ago a similar squad were in the play-offs. Expecting players to revert back to pre-Warnock seems pessimistic to me. The next manager is taking over a squad in a much better position and Warnock leaving does not undo the work he has done with them.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 18, 2023 15:05:04 GMT 1
We should protest. This isn't the way to treat him or our club. It’s upset me as this. He clearly has forged a deep bond with his players. He makes the point that Ruffles is the best left back in the Championship. How is that going to make the player feel after hearing that? Man manager supreme. If I was Ruffles I'd be thinking..."phew...we're going to get a proper manager in, this guy has lost his marbles if he thinks I'm the best left back in the Championship"
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Post by willo on Sept 18, 2023 15:07:09 GMT 1
Let's consider the theory that it was Schofield and Fotheringham that were exceptions rather than Warnock. It wasn't long ago a similar squad were in the play-offs. Expecting players to revert back to pre-Warnock seems pessimistic to me. The next manager is taking over a squad in a much better position and Warnock leaving does not undo the work he has done with them. Depends entirely on who comes in. If it’s Jan Siewart 2.0, we’re fucked.
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Post by detox on Sept 18, 2023 15:09:42 GMT 1
New manager comes in...enters changing room..."Right lads, now you're going to learn how to play proper football. We're going to play out from the back, patiently..and keep possession as much as possible..that's my priority over everything.. possession.. possession. .possession no more hoof, no long ball downfield...possession..."
We're stuffed.
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