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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 16:25:29 GMT 1
What a royal fuck up this is. Nice one Kev. Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? |
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 18, 2023 16:31:20 GMT 1
What a royal fuck up this is. Nice one Kev. Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? Because Kevin has just prematurely got rid of our best asset. Pretty clear. |
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Post by King Neil on Sept 18, 2023 16:33:03 GMT 1
Short term is a bit of an understatement innit
Get a new manager in yet he has the same players to work with until the January transfer window
Doesn't anyone think that these players are going to get affected by this??
What will probably happen now is that the players form is going to dip and the new guy/girl will be on a hiding to nothing and things will get toxic!
Yes he wasn't going to stay forever,,but the timing is atrocious
I want to be positive,but I'm almost certain we will be in the same boat this January as last
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 16:35:06 GMT 1
What a royal fuck up this is. Nice one Kev. Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? So why was Warnock allowed to make changes to the backroom / recruitment teams if the plan was likely to be so short term. That doesn't add up one iota. |
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Post by midge on Sept 18, 2023 16:35:30 GMT 1
What a royal fuck up this is. Nice one Kev. Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? Because some people just want to believe the worst! Warnock himself said he expected to be gone by Xmas so not sure why people are losing their shit over a couple of months difference! Fans have been screaming for some ambition and dependant on who is appointed of course it appears we are moving from short term/temporary to long term with talk of ambition of the prem in 3 seasons......but no, to some it's the end of the world🙄 |
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Post by jasrick on Sept 18, 2023 16:39:16 GMT 1
Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? So why was Warnock allowed to make changes to the backroom / recruitment teams if the plan was likely to be so short term. That doesn't add up one iota. Why are you so sure they were Warnock’s decisions? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 16:40:44 GMT 1
Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? Because Kevin has just prematurely got rid of our best asset. Pretty clear. he was a temporary manager...by his own choice. Should they have turned down the chance to appoint whoever it is theyve decided is the right man going forward so Warnock can have another couple of months? How absurd would that make them look! Exactly what Nagle and Warnock agreed would happen has happened....hes steered the ship until they ( the board ) have sorted themselves out and now they have it's time for him to leave. Maybe earlier than either side imagined but so be it. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 16:42:21 GMT 1
Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? So why was Warnock allowed to make changes to the backroom / recruitment teams if the plan was likely to be so short term. That doesn't add up one iota. Because he insisted on them...because at that point they HADNT secured the next boss.. it was only ever short term..no one including Warnock has ever suggested otherwise. |
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Post by crux on Sept 18, 2023 16:45:30 GMT 1
Sounds like Warnock wanted, or expected, to be gone by or at Christmas anyway. This gives the new manager longer to assess the squad before the transfer window opens.
Would mid/late November or the October International break have been better for those saying this is the wrong/rubbish/shite decision? You couldn't leave it any later than then, otherwise the new manager doesn't have enough time before the window opens. Don't forget those players whose contracts end in the summer can start talking to other clubs in January.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 16:46:36 GMT 1
Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? Because some people just want to believe the worst! Warnock himself said he expected to be gone by Xmas so not sure why people are losing their shit over a couple of months difference! Fans have been screaming for some ambition and dependant on who is appointed of course it appears we are moving from short term/temporary to long term with talk of ambition of the prem in 3 seasons......but no, to some it's the end of the world🙄 Imagine the scenario where we could have appointed X to be the manager but we turned him down so Warnock could manage us until December..so X goes to Birmingham instead or somewhere and takes them up. The same people moaning about this would be apoplectic that we didnt appoint him and kept Warnock on for longer and they'd be calling Nagle everything under the sun! |
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Post by King Neil on Sept 18, 2023 16:46:44 GMT 1
Because Kevin has just prematurely got rid of our best asset. Pretty clear. he was a temporary manager...by his own choice. Should they have turned down the chance to appoint whoever it is theyve decided is the right man going forward so Warnock can have another couple of months? How absurd would that make them look! Exactly what Nagle and Warnock agreed would happen has happened....hes steered the ship until they ( the board ) have sorted themselves out and now they have it's time for him to leave. Maybe earlier than either side imagined but so be it. 3 year plan? Maybe we could have had a 1 year plan already in place to reach the Premier league with Neil in charge Personally I thought we would get a bit of momentum going as the season progressed and genuinely thought we may push for the playoffs |
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Post by irverino on Sept 18, 2023 16:49:26 GMT 1
Short term is a bit of an understatement innit Get a new manager in yet he has the same players to work with until the January transfer window Doesn't anyone think that these players are going to get affected by this?? What will probably happen now is that the players form is going to dip and the new guy/girl will be on a hiding to nothing and things will get toxic! Yes he wasn't going to stay forever,,but the timing is atrocious I want to be positive,but I'm almost certain we will be in the same boat this January as last Your right about bad timing, three international breaks in 12 weeks & we pick the week with a 4 day gap between games......Thursday probably a day off after Stoke game. |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 18, 2023 16:52:09 GMT 1
Why is it a fuck up when exactly what was supposed to happen and was agreed to happen by all parties , has happened? So why was Warnock allowed to make changes to the backroom / recruitment teams if the plan was likely to be so short term. That doesn't add up one iota. There’s only the goalkeeping coach that looks like it’s his decision isn’t there? The recruitment, academy and marketing positions will have been made higher up the chain surely. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 16:53:51 GMT 1
he was a temporary manager...by his own choice. Should they have turned down the chance to appoint whoever it is theyve decided is the right man going forward so Warnock can have another couple of months? How absurd would that make them look! Exactly what Nagle and Warnock agreed would happen has happened....hes steered the ship until they ( the board ) have sorted themselves out and now they have it's time for him to leave. Maybe earlier than either side imagined but so be it. 3 year plan? Maybe we could have had a 1 year plan already in place to reach the Premier league with Neil in charge Personally I thought we would get a bit of momentum going as the season progressed and genuinely thought we may push for the playoffs The 3 year plan thing at least shows some ambitious intent. I dont think having a 74 year old temporary manager who is almost certainly going to walk away in a month or two really ties in with 'ambition' , good as warnock is. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 18, 2023 17:00:33 GMT 1
Because some people just want to believe the worst! Warnock himself said he expected to be gone by Xmas so not sure why people are losing their shit over a couple of months difference! Fans have been screaming for some ambition and dependant on who is appointed of course it appears we are moving from short term/temporary to long term with talk of ambition of the prem in 3 seasons......but no, to some it's the end of the world🙄 ..so X goes to Birmingham instead or somewhere and takes them up. The same people moaning about this would be apoplectic that we didnt appoint him and kept Warnock on for longer and they'd be calling Nagle everything under the sun! Such a scenario wouldn't exist because the club could have secured the services of the individual and done a handover as originally planned, whether that be in a week, a month or three months. People seem to be saying that it was only ever til xmas anyway all of a sudden, that was never the case, they secured Warnock for the season. If the club look on here they'll be delighted how many people are swallowing the BS. This has come about way earlier than planned due to the twitter spat and possibly other issues. Lets see what Friday brings, talk of a 3 year plan is quite exciting and will require a quality appointment followed by significant investment in the playing squad. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 18, 2023 17:02:19 GMT 1
Sounds like Warnock wanted, or expected, to be gone by or at Christmas anyway. This gives the new manager longer to assess the squad before the transfer window opens. Would mid/late November or the October International break have been better for those saying this is the wrong/rubbish/shite decision? You couldn't leave it any later than then, otherwise the new manager doesn't have enough time before the window opens. Don't forget those players whose contracts end in the summer can start talking to other clubs in January. I think while he was enjoying himself (the last two results obviously helped) and enjoying making the players better (and so were we) he can now take stock, be immensely proud of what he has achieved at Town, always look back fondly on his times at HTAFC, spend some quality time fishing on his lake, quality family time with the grandkids, media duties which he’d be good at if he so desired and recharge his batteries that way for the inevitable emergency clarion calls that will come his way in February to keep relegation threatened clubs in The Championship ! Thank You Neil and Ronnie (and your backroom team) for the miracle youse achieved at Huddersfield Town since arriving in February 2023... 👍 They’ll always be a quality Islay malt whisky at ma door for youse ! 🥃 🥃 ⚽️ 😊 |
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Post by midge on Sept 18, 2023 17:03:27 GMT 1
Imagine the scenario where we could have appointed X to be the manager but we turned him down so Warnock could manage us until December..so X goes to Birmingham instead or somewhere and takes them up. The same people moaning about this would be apoplectic that we didnt appoint him and kept Warnock on for longer and they'd be calling Nagle everything under the sun! Such a scenario wouldn't exist because the club could have secured the services of the individual and done a handover as originally planned, whether that be in a week, a month or three months. People seem to be saying that it was only ever til xmas anyway all of a sudden, that was never the case, they secured Warnock for the season. If the club look on here they'll be delighted how many people are swallowing the BS. This has come about way earlier than planned due to the twitter spat and possibly other issues. Lets see what Friday brings, talk of a 3 year plan is quite exciting and will require a quality appointment followed by significant investment in the playing squad. Warnock said himself in the press conference, his expectation was that he would be here until Xmas. |
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Post by kyg on Sept 18, 2023 17:04:37 GMT 1
All the best to him, today is a sad day. The owner is to be blamed for this. Blamed for WHAT? It was always the plan, NW knew it, the club knew it, all the fans KNEW it. It was always a temporary appointment for no more than one season. Yes it happened a couple of months earlier than maybe we expected but if the person comes available you want you cant just put it off. Would you rather they say on their hands until next May and then start looking for the new man? Some people are just insane. There's always a scandal. Nothing in that presser suggested anything other than an amicable split, a little earlier than normal, and that it was driven by circumstance surrounding the new person, not some massive fallout. I wish people would just grow the fuck up. I LOVE NW, he has been immense in both spells as manager and he obviously has a strong affinity for the club. Keeping us up was a miracle, BUT it was ALWAYS temporary this season. Why wait until the last minute to try to find someone. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Sept 18, 2023 17:08:54 GMT 1
I don't know what's gone on between Warnock and the club but I know it's bad. I also don't know who the new manager is going to be but I know that that's bad too. As for the timing, well that's bad because, well because it just is. And that press conference, well even though Warnock and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) say they get on great, well they obviously don't because of something that I don't know about but is clearly true. The players have been great under Warnock but are going to be very bad under the new manager - obviously I don't know why because I don't know who it is yet - so don't ask me stupid questions.
Whilst I know absolutely nothing about what has gone on, I do know that this new owner, Kevin Bagel, and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) are making a right mess of things and it's making me bloody cross. I just don't know why - and that makes me crosser.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 18, 2023 17:10:51 GMT 1
All the best to him, today is a sad day. The owner is to be blamed for this. No he isn’t . |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 17:12:30 GMT 1
Imagine the scenario where we could have appointed X to be the manager but we turned him down so Warnock could manage us until December..so X goes to Birmingham instead or somewhere and takes them up. The same people moaning about this would be apoplectic that we didnt appoint him and kept Warnock on for longer and they'd be calling Nagle everything under the sun! People seem to be saying that it was only ever til xmas anyway all of a sudden, that was never the case, they secured Warnock for the season. If the club look on here they'll be delighted how many people are swallowing the BS. This has come about way earlier than planned due to the twitter spat and possibly other issues. Lets see what Friday brings, talk of a 3 year plan is quite exciting and will require a quality appointment followed by significant investment in the playing squad. They have secured the services of their man of choice and this week theres the handover. Yet people are moaning because part of that means Warnock moves on! So presumably they'd rather we turned the new guy down and stuck with Warnock for another month or two?? Warnock never expected to be here all the season...he expected to be here until we found a permanent manager..and thats happened. That was the only 'original plan'. I dont get what you think is BS when what was supposed to happen, what was agreed to happen by all sides, has happened. |
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Post by kyg on Sept 18, 2023 17:12:49 GMT 1
I don't know what's gone on between Warnock and the club but I know it's bad. I also don't know who the new manager is going to be but I know that that's bad too. As for the timing, well that's bad because, well because it just is. And that press conference, well even though Warnock and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) say they get on great, well they obviously don't because of something that I don't know about but is clearly true. The players have been great under Warnock but are going to be very bad under the new manager - obviously I don't know why because I don't know who it is yet - so don't ask me stupid questions. Whilst I know absolutely nothing about what has gone on, I do know that this new owner, Kevin Bagel, and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) are making a right mess of things and it's making me bloody cross. I just don't know why - and that makes me crosser. You dont know what going on, correct, but somehow you know its bad (how if you dont know what it is do you know its bad). Thats just the Huddersfield negativity taking you over. It does not have to be all doom and gloom. It has been explained, the new person they want is now available and ready to come onboard. It was always going to be about timing this season, even NW said he thought maybe Christmas. It's just a couple of months earlier due to circumstances. Stop looking for trouble where there isn't any |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 18, 2023 17:13:29 GMT 1
We can hope that Schofield and Buss are exceptions, but or history is littered with them. Unfortunately we don't have as many Warnocks in our history as we would like. We will have to wait and see what we get. Schofield was the wrong appointment at the wrong time, but to put him in the same category as Buzz is unfair IMO. By all accounts Schofield was a decent coach working under Carlos and Pelach, just wasn't cut out to come in when Carlos jumped ship halfway through pre-season. How Fotheringham ever got within ten miles of a championship job still baffles me to this day. He must suck like a brand new Henry hoover! It was Town's decision to appoint Schofield and if it was unfair to lump him in with Buss his record was probably worse from memory. Let hope we are not going to make another wrong appointment at the wrong time. |
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Post by midge on Sept 18, 2023 17:16:30 GMT 1
I don't know what's gone on between Warnock and the club but I know it's bad. I also don't know who the new manager is going to be but I know that that's bad too. As for the timing, well that's bad because, well because it just is. And that press conference, well even though Warnock and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) say they get on great, well they obviously don't because of something that I don't know about but is clearly true. The players have been great under Warnock but are going to be very bad under the new manager - obviously I don't know why because I don't know who it is yet - so don't ask me stupid questions. Whilst I know absolutely nothing about what has gone on, I do know that this new owner, Kevin Bagel, and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) are making a right mess of things and it's making me bloody cross. I just don't know why - and that makes me crosser. You dont know what going on, correct, but somehow you know its bad (how if you dont know what it is do you know its bad). Thats just the Huddersfield negativity taking you over. It does not have to be all doom and gloom. It has been explained, the new person they want is now available and ready to come onboard. It was always going to be about timing this season, even NW said he thought maybe Christmas. It's just a couple of months earlier due to circumstances. Stop looking for trouble where there isn't any He's taking the piss mate!😜 |
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Post by Spike24 on Sept 18, 2023 17:17:34 GMT 1
Sounds like Warnock knew the plan and expected it to maybe take until Christmas for his successor to be found. Club have decided upon successor quicker than anticipated (maybe it is crucial we hire him now as could be other interest, who knows?) Doesn't sound like animosity - if there was bad blood, no way would Warnock have stayed on after WBA game, when he was told. Noticed as well that there was a clear reference to Nagle's desire to have us in PL in the next three years. We all knew that Warnock was a stop-gap and he was very unlikely to be here all year. He has done a brilliant job and galvanised the team and fans again. Let's hope the new coaching team can carry that on and build on it. utt if the successor is available now, he was available when warnock we re-hired. 100% given the push. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 17:20:02 GMT 1
Schofield was the wrong appointment at the wrong time, but to put him in the same category as Buzz is unfair IMO. Schofield 0.5 points per game....23 points per season Buzz 1.05 points per game......48 points a season Id agree putting them in the same category is unfair! |
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Post by irverino on Sept 18, 2023 17:21:32 GMT 1
Such a scenario wouldn't exist because the club could have secured the services of the individual and done a handover as originally planned, whether that be in a week, a month or three months. People seem to be saying that it was only ever til xmas anyway all of a sudden, that was never the case, they secured Warnock for the season. If the club look on here they'll be delighted how many people are swallowing the BS. This has come about way earlier than planned due to the twitter spat and possibly other issues. Lets see what Friday brings, talk of a 3 year plan is quite exciting and will require a quality appointment followed by significant investment in the playing squad. Warnock said himself in the press conference, his expectation was that he would be here until Xmas. He said he lost 4-0 twice under Dean........'but wasn't sacked', the bit he didn't say. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2023 17:21:51 GMT 1
Sounds like Warnock knew the plan and expected it to maybe take until Christmas for his successor to be found. Club have decided upon successor quicker than anticipated (maybe it is crucial we hire him now as could be other interest, who knows?) Doesn't sound like animosity - if there was bad blood, no way would Warnock have stayed on after WBA game, when he was told. Noticed as well that there was a clear reference to Nagle's desire to have us in PL in the next three years. We all knew that Warnock was a stop-gap and he was very unlikely to be here all year. He has done a brilliant job and galvanised the team and fans again. Let's hope the new coaching team can carry that on and build on it. utt if the successor is available now, he was available when warnock we re-hired. 100% given the push. You'd have to wait and see who it is before knowing that. but we didnt have all our ducks in a row in terms of decision makers when warnock was re appointed..which was exactly why he was re appointed! |
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Sept 18, 2023 17:22:15 GMT 1
I don't know what's gone on between Warnock and the club but I know it's bad. I also don't know who the new manager is going to be but I know that that's bad too. As for the timing, well that's bad because, well because it just is. And that press conference, well even though Warnock and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) say they get on great, well they obviously don't because of something that I don't know about but is clearly true. The players have been great under Warnock but are going to be very bad under the new manager - obviously I don't know why because I don't know who it is yet - so don't ask me stupid questions. Whilst I know absolutely nothing about what has gone on, I do know that this new owner, Kevin Bagel, and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) are making a right mess of things and it's making me bloody cross. I just don't know why - and that makes me crosser. You dont know what going on, correct, but somehow you know its bad (how if you dont know what it is do you know its bad). Thats just the Huddersfield negativity taking you over. It does not have to be all doom and gloom. It has been explained, the new person they want is now available and ready to come onboard. It was always going to be about timing this season, even NW said he thought maybe Christmas. It's just a couple of months earlier due to circumstances. Stop looking for trouble where there isn't any oh no, dum dum moment |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 18, 2023 17:23:52 GMT 1
I don't know what's gone on between Warnock and the club but I know it's bad. I also don't know who the new manager is going to be but I know that that's bad too. As for the timing, well that's bad because, well because it just is. And that press conference, well even though Warnock and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) say they get on great, well they obviously don't because of something that I don't know about but is clearly true. The players have been great under Warnock but are going to be very bad under the new manager - obviously I don't know why because I don't know who it is yet - so don't ask me stupid questions. Whilst I know absolutely nothing about what has gone on, I do know that this new owner, Kevin Bagel, and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) are making a right mess of things and it's making me bloody cross. I just don't know why - and that makes me crosser. You dont know what going on, correct, but somehow you know its bad (how if you dont know what it is do you know its bad). Thats just the Huddersfield negativity taking you over. It does not have to be all doom and gloom. It has been explained, the new person they want is now available and ready to come onboard. It was always going to be about timing this season, even NW said he thought maybe Christmas. It's just a couple of months earlier due to circumstances. Stop looking for trouble where there isn't any Think you need to read his post again. |
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