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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 13:41:54 GMT 1
Changing him after 7 games is what I'd consider a bad decision So you think they should say to the bloke they want as the long term manager " we do want you but we feel Neil should have more than 7 games, so sorry, you go get a job somewhere else" ? That would be a good decision? Did they ask Neil how he felt? No! He's already said he's not retiring Maybe some communication about where the land lies with him were in order...ok he came back to save us and clearly was/is enjoying himself at a club whose fans get him love him and trust him
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 19, 2023 13:42:32 GMT 1
Changing him after 7 games is what I'd consider a bad decision So you think they should say to the bloke they want as the long term manager " we do want you but we feel Neil should have more than 7 games, so sorry, you go get a job somewhere else" ? That would be a good decision? I've got absolutely no confidence that some blokes from conference standard football can pick a manager to do a better job than the one we had
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 19, 2023 13:43:42 GMT 1
And any decent owners would be checking in with the manager...eyup neil is everything OK?...are you OK continuing for the foreseeable future?...or do we really need to be finding someone quite soon? Not of that just the nonsense which has now happened One ops continued quote of its temporary by his insistence is getting quite boring now!!! A natural transition to a new man around Xmas time when hopefully we are quite stable in the table and the new man has a transfer window to get any new faces is what should have happened..it hasn't and that's why a fallout is the real reason Had nagle come out and been honest and said I'm not happy with the results so we want to change things then that's transparent and I would have more respect for him Doing it this way has been quite nasty and I feel quite embarrassed being a Town fan today Neil deserves far better You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Says the bloke that's spent the last 2 days arsekissing the owners 🤷
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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 13:44:43 GMT 1
And any decent owners would be checking in with the manager...eyup neil is everything OK?...are you OK continuing for the foreseeable future?...or do we really need to be finding someone quite soon? Not of that just the nonsense which has now happened One ops continued quote of its temporary by his insistence is getting quite boring now!!! A natural transition to a new man around Xmas time when hopefully we are quite stable in the table and the new man has a transfer window to get any new faces is what should have happened..it hasn't and that's why a fallout is the real reason Had nagle come out and been honest and said I'm not happy with the results so we want to change things then that's transparent and I would have more respect for him Doing it this way has been quite nasty and I feel quite embarrassed being a Town fan today Neil deserves far better You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Another keyboard warrior It's all about opinions... You obviously don't like mine Remind me how many games Mr nagle has attended?? 1 I think
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 13:45:09 GMT 1
So you think they should say to the bloke they want as the long term manager " we do want you but we feel Neil should have more than 7 games, so sorry, you go get a job somewhere else" ? That would be a good decision? I've got absolutely no confidence that some blokes from conference standard football can pick a manager to do a better job than the one we had Thats a different question...whether you trust them to pick the right man. But if they have chosen who they feel is the right man..then to NOT give him the job so your interim manager can stay a little bit longer would be insane on any level.
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Post by townrwe on Sept 19, 2023 13:45:43 GMT 1
So you think they should say to the bloke they want as the long term manager " we do want you but we feel Neil should have more than 7 games, so sorry, you go get a job somewhere else" ? That would be a good decision? I've got absolutely no confidence that some blokes from conference standard football can pick a manager to do a better job than the one we had They will have put their faith in driblab...
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Post by Dan on Sept 19, 2023 13:45:44 GMT 1
You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Another keyboard warrior It's all about opinions... You obviously don't like mine Remind me how many games Mr nagle has attended?? 1 I thinkYou're not doing too well with your 'facts' today pal
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 19, 2023 13:47:15 GMT 1
I've got absolutely no confidence that some blokes from conference standard football can pick a manager to do a better job than the one we had They will have put their faith in driblab... Keep reading that as dribble lad, makes me think of Positive 😉
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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 13:47:48 GMT 1
Another keyboard warrior It's all about opinions... You obviously don't like mine Remind me how many games Mr nagle has attended?? 1 I thinkYou're not doing too well with your 'facts' today pal Go on then how many
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 13:49:07 GMT 1
So you think they should say to the bloke they want as the long term manager " we do want you but we feel Neil should have more than 7 games, so sorry, you go get a job somewhere else" ? That would be a good decision? Did they ask Neil how he felt? No! He's already said he's not retiring Maybe some communication about where the land lies with him were in order...ok he came back to save us and clearly was/is enjoying himself at a club whose fans get him love him and trust him Well yes, but he was only ever a temporary thing until the board chose a long term successor. He knew that, the board knew that and the fans knew that. Well they have found the long term successor , so thanks Neil, youre a legend, but time to move on now.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 13:49:47 GMT 1
You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Says the bloke that's spent the last 2 days arsekissing the owners 🤷 Have I? Screenshot and post where then please? I remember saying I like both Nagle and Warnock and that they have both been as bad as eachother. The abuse towards the new owners has been pathetic though and unjustified.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 13:50:19 GMT 1
You're not doing too well with your 'facts' today pal Go on then how many He was at the Cov and Reading game for a start.
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Post by specialun on Sept 19, 2023 13:52:23 GMT 1
I get the thought the timing is odd
Reasons it might not be
1. Long term replacement wasn’t available and now is
2. Long term replacement available and if we don’t act could be elsewhere sharpish
That implies we’re getting our main target
Of course we won’t have had just 1 target for long term replacement - who knows if we appoint the first choice or events have taken over which meant our third choice long term replacement fits above but first - second are not available
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 13:52:49 GMT 1
You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Another keyboard warrior It's all about opinions... You obviously don't like mine Remind me how many games Mr nagle has attended?? 1 I think Not a keyboard warrior. What has the amount of games Nagle has attended got to do with anything?
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Post by Dan on Sept 19, 2023 13:53:52 GMT 1
You're not doing too well with your 'facts' today pal Go on then how many 4
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 19, 2023 13:55:02 GMT 1
And any decent owners would be checking in with the manager...eyup neil is everything OK?...are you OK continuing for the foreseeable future?...or do we really need to be finding someone quite soon? Not of that just the nonsense which has now happened One ops continued quote of its temporary by his insistence is getting quite boring now!!! A natural transition to a new man around Xmas time when hopefully we are quite stable in the table and the new man has a transfer window to get any new faces is what should have happened..it hasn't and that's why a fallout is the real reason Had nagle come out and been honest and said I'm not happy with the results so we want to change things then that's transparent and I would have more respect for him Doing it this way has been quite nasty and I feel quite embarrassed being a Town fan today Neil deserves far better You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Didn’t need to get so aggressive in your post pal. Can disagree without going at him.
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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 13:55:17 GMT 1
He was at the Cov and Reading game for a start. Oh well this changes things lol Veteran Town owner from now on then
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Post by yoy on Sept 19, 2023 13:57:04 GMT 1
I have to admit it appeared that Edwards was squirming throughout that entire press conference. I don't think we have the full story at all but as was said yesterday, Warnock himself said he only expected to stay until Xmas. Its happened a couple of months early, big deal. Reckon? I thought he looked calm and composed. Looks like him and Neil have a great relationship. I agree with this. I find it very easy to take the story being presented at face value. If there’s more to it then in my view they’ve done a great job of putting on a show where they seemed to have genuine respect and affection for each other.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 19, 2023 13:59:53 GMT 1
I get the thought the timing is odd Reasons it might not be 1. Long term replacement wasn’t available and now is 2. Long term replacement available and if we don’t act could be elsewhere sharpish That implies we’re getting our main target Of course we won’t have had just 1 target for long term replacement - who knows if we appoint the first choice or events have taken over which meant our third choice long term replacement fits above but first - second are not available 3. Long term replacement hadn't been identified and now has.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2023 14:01:54 GMT 1
The reasons for him leaving for a start... You say temporary like he was hired on an interim basis, he signed a 1 year contract which was sold as a transitional 'stabilising' season. I'm not sure I would consider us as stable 6 games into a new season... I hope as much as the next Town fan that they have found their guy and he's exciting appointment that will take us forward, but to pretend there is nothing to question here is very naïve. The reason hes leaving is because theyve managed to find and agree a deal with the manager they want going forward. Its as simple as that. You either appoint the man you want...in which case warnock leaves.. Or you DONT appoint the man you want...lose him probably...just so you can keep warnock on as temporary manager a bit longer.....something that would be RIDICULOUS! Warnock was an interim manager...for up to a year but in all probability much less than that....by his own insistence...put in place to tide us over until the management team had been sorted and they were in a position to make decisions like who the manager going forward should be. He himself thought that would take a bit longer, maybe even xmas, but as it is its been done quicker than that. Seems to be a lot of amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists desperately trying to make this more 'interesting' than it is, but whats happened and why is pretty bloody obvious to me ( because its just what was supposed to happen ) and Im not getting what there is to question about it. Captainslapper once again has to have the last word till he's blue in the face,..
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 14:02:13 GMT 1
You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Didn’t need to get so aggressive in your post pal. Can disagree without going at him. Aggressive? Saying they spout utter bollocks? They do.... saying it was because of results and that Nagle should have been honest enough to say that. It's the truth that it is utter bollocks. Over the top comments like 'embarrassing being a town fan this morning' ? Why is it? Our TEMP manager had his role of TEMP ended, just earlier than expected. How is that embarrassing? God knows how they get through life as many more important things happen daily that actually matter.
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 19, 2023 14:02:38 GMT 1
At 1pm yesterday this thread had just over 85,000 views now over 116,000....
Interesting topic and thread for sure ! 😉
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2023 14:03:29 GMT 1
I dont understand what there is to NOT believe? Or why people are questioning what theyve done...its bloody obvious why theyve done what theyve done!..we had a temporary manager and we want a permanent manager. For 7 games they might as well have asked Worthy to take charge. It'd better be someone worth the upheaval Although DS was 'permanent' it would have been the equivalent of last seasons debacle of a start.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 19, 2023 14:06:56 GMT 1
Neil Warnock leaves the club as an even bigger legend than he was before. He is one of the club's greatest ever managers. Indeed, the king. Highest win percentage (>10 games) since Lee Clark. Makes the decision even crazier if we don’t upgrade on him.
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Post by bullard on Sept 19, 2023 14:07:55 GMT 1
Because it’s not entirely about the individual it’s about the skillset required in that role and the attributes they are looking for to make that plan work. For future planning I’d imagine that this list is defined at they have a list identified of managers/ coaches that fit that criteria. Loads of clubs successfully do this - Brighton being a great example That's effectively what Leigh Bromby had set up... some may argue with differing levels of success ! Yeah I think that’s what any decent business would do, but the parameters have changed here, there is a completely fresh approach to the whole place and to be honest I’m not certain LB seemed to have the flexibility or acumen to deliver at the level required. I’d argue these guys are a step up
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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2023 14:09:15 GMT 1
Aye. On top of doing the impossible and saving us from relegation - the bastard. I’d be much happier if was still managing us but if the ownership aren’t happy with his behaviour it’s his own stupid fault isn’t it? Why is that? If your boss starts tweeting don't you think that you have a right to respond? How many on here have been calling out the fans for shouting out pedo at a match and now we find some on here insinuating some form of dark arts have been practiced by Warnock without any proof offered. It may be Warnock's fault but it will take more than a few snide comments before I will believe anything.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 14:14:53 GMT 1
I’d be much happier if was still managing us but if the ownership aren’t happy with his behaviour it’s his own stupid fault isn’t it? Why is that? If your boss starts tweeting don't you think that you have a right to respond? How many on here have been calling out the fans for shouting out pedo at a match and now we find some on here insinuating some form of dark arts have been practiced by Warnock without any proof offered. It may be Warnock's fault but it will take more than a few snide comments before I will believe anything. Comparing tweets to Sorba regarding paedophilia is on a completely different level to Nagle tweeting something which in all honesty wasn't even that bad.
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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 14:16:52 GMT 1
Didn’t need to get so aggressive in your post pal. Can disagree without going at him. Aggressive? Saying they spout utter bollocks? They do.... saying it was because of results and that Nagle should have been honest enough to say that. It's the truth that it is utter bollocks. Over the top comments like 'embarrassing being a town fan this morning' ? Why is it? Our TEMP manager had his role of TEMP ended, just earlier than expected. How is that embarrassing? God knows how they get through life as many more important things happen daily that actually matter. I get through the day wonderfully well..have a beautiful soon to be wife and have lots of wonderful holidays When you are losing a discussion on things you think throwing an insult my way really bothers me???...water off a ducks back The basis for my loyalty to King Neil is...going to 2 finals at Wembley stadium and seeing us getting promoted...and the amazing job he has done last season and this season... If you don't like my options cockwall then tough
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 19, 2023 14:17:27 GMT 1
Didn’t need to get so aggressive in your post pal. Can disagree without going at him. Aggressive? Saying they spout utter bollocks? They do.... saying it was because of results and that Nagle should have been honest enough to say that. It's the truth that it is utter bollocks. Over the top comments like 'embarrassing being a town fan this morning' ? Why is it? Our TEMP manager had his role of TEMP ended, just earlier than expected. How is that embarrassing? God knows how they get through life as many more important things happen daily that actually matter. That’s just the way it came across to me, if you said your post in person I don’t think it would come across as a calm discussion that’s all. I’ll leave it there. Not saying I agree with his views though.
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Post by bullard on Sept 19, 2023 14:18:36 GMT 1
You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Another keyboard warrior It's all about opinions... You obviously don't like mine Remind me how many games Mr nagle has attended?? 1 I think Here’s where I think the owners role is misunderstood. The CEO, DoF/ SD are the ones that should be speaking to the manager that literally is why they are in the role. Yeah of course the owner may have touch points at times with the manager, but let’s be honest everyone outside of the club knew this was short term, there was a thought it was only 6 months initially. Now if as some suggest NW is being his devilish self, then there’s probably a point where the powers that be say, this is temporary and doesn’t need to be hardwork, we’re through the initial need to get things in place. Let’s cut ties and empower someone who we believe fits the longer term vision/ criteria. NW is probably a bit miffed cause he was enjoying himself and had thought he’d be here longer. Whilst folk want to view it in normal life, football isn’t that, it’s a results business and dare I say thinks weren’t as rosy as folk are making out just two games ago. Let’s just give NW the send off he deserves tomorrow night, then let’s focus on the club as that’s who we all support
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