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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Dec 28, 2023 18:57:43 GMT 1
I reckon that Jordan holds the cards here. He'll leave in Summer. No incentive to return at all, particularly as he's doing so well. He should either ask for a contract extension with us or tell us where to go. What's the worst the club can do? He has nothing to lose.
I'm really happy to wait and see how this pans out.
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Post by boooothy on Dec 28, 2023 19:20:49 GMT 1
Whatever happens surely we should not be paying a penny of his wages for him to play for someone else.
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Post by k1man999 on Dec 28, 2023 20:21:17 GMT 1
What we bringing simpson back for, to train wi Giant's looked more suited to the oval ball IMO Breaking quickly as a two or 3 man attack looked our best bet all season. We did it numerous times against Blackburn and scored 3. Neither Ward nor Jordan are suited to that tactic. Jordan needs the ball into feet in and around the box, he needs balls into the box, head height or below to use his nouse to get a yard on a defender, we dont do that. Look at his goals for Blackpool. Totally agree re Rhodes buf if anyone thinks Simpson is the answer we are screwed he looked awful and people have a dig at Hudlin Yes Simpson can run but so could forest gump |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 28, 2023 22:19:34 GMT 1
Breaking quickly as a two or 3 man attack looked our best bet all season. We did it numerous times against Blackburn and scored 3. Neither Ward nor Jordan are suited to that tactic. Jordan needs the ball into feet in and around the box, he needs balls into the box, head height or below to use his nouse to get a yard on a defender, we dont do that. Look at his goals for Blackpool. Totally agree re Rhodes buf if anyone thinks Simpson is the answer we are screwed he looked awful and people have a dig at Hudlin Yes Simpson can run but so could forest gump Last 15 or 20 minutes if we are leading etc then a big, physical lad who can run with or after the ball and be a pain in the arse is useful. Wether its enough to recall him is another thing. We saw the answer to our attacking issues against Blackburn. 2 or 3 breaking with one running with the ball. Its about defending a bit further up and winning the ball higher up for that to work. A wee bit of bravery and having a player or two not behind the ball in or on the edge of our own penalty box??? Ward and Rhodes are not part of that plan, Simpson could be for short periods. |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 28, 2023 22:49:18 GMT 1
Simpson and Hudlin are both crap. Neither of them will move to Championship clubs once they leave Huddersfield Town.
That tells you how good they are.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 28, 2023 23:04:57 GMT 1
Simpson and Hudlin are both crap. Neither of them will move to Championship clubs once they leave Huddersfield Town. That tells you how good they are. At this rate they will be lucky to get league 2 clubs |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 28, 2023 23:11:21 GMT 1
Simpson and Hudlin are both crap. Neither of them will move to Championship clubs once they leave Huddersfield Town. That tells you how good they are. Neither will Ward, Rhodes or Harratt and possibly JK or Burgzorg In fact, how many of the squad would ? Helik, Rudi, Sorba, Nicholls 🤷 |
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Post by royrace on Dec 29, 2023 1:01:41 GMT 1
Simpson and Hudlin are both crap. Neither of them will move to Championship clubs once they leave Huddersfield Town. That tells you how good they are. Simpson better of the two imo, which at the moment is the pertinent point. Rhodes significantly better than Harrat. In order I'd go Rhodes, Simpson/Harrat, Hudlin. Bringing both back is a no brainer imo especially since Simpson is doing nothing at Northampton. |
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Post by impact on Dec 29, 2023 3:27:50 GMT 1
We're in a relegation scrap. We need everything we have, and he gets on the bench every single time ahead of Hudlin. To continue picking Hudlin and leaving Rhodes at Blackpool would be insanity. Not if we can get a better and younger player in the January window. Where are we going to magic him from? Every club wants a 20 goal a season striker. We don't have the money to buy one. |
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 29, 2023 10:20:36 GMT 1
He scored his 5 goals in the Belgium 1st Division. But his team never got really got off the bottom of the table. Being a Scotsman - Maybe he had too many shots of beer at Beerschot !!! 🍺 😊 Why, can’t Scots handle pints of beer? |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Dec 29, 2023 11:45:40 GMT 1
Rhodes needs games - he's shown that at a lower level this season. We 100% can't afford to give him that run of games to see if it eventually works for him. He doesn't want to be a bit part bench player at his age and it clearly hasn't worked for him doing that here. We need better - Blackpool will be desperate to keep him - sensible solution is a small fee in January and he's off the wage bill. Everyone's a winner.
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Post by westislandterrier on Dec 29, 2023 11:58:13 GMT 1
Being a Scotsman - Maybe he had too many shots of beer at Beerschot !!! 🍺 😊 Why, can’t Scots handle pints of beer? We don’t handle the pints.... Simply because we guzzle them down in the one-er !!! 😉 🍺 🏴 |
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Post by detox on Dec 29, 2023 12:24:38 GMT 1
If you give Rhodes enough chances he'll score goals...The way Town played him was ridiculous and failed to capitalise on what he does well..it was a joke bringing him back to then play that way. In any case he's a better header of the ball than Ward in every situation, can shield the ball batter and still has that natural instinct in the opponents box...but he needs the ball first of all. He's only 33, that's not a 'past it' age...
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2023 12:37:46 GMT 1
I don’t think either Simpson or Rhodes are the answer to our striker issues. Neither are Championship standard strikers and neither would get 8-12 goals between now and the end of the season
Both, for different reasons, needs to be playing as many minutes as possible. At 33, Rhodes is coming towards the end of his career and needs to be playing to earn another contract. Simpson is 22 in early February so needs to be playing as much as possible to continue his development.
Leave them both out on loan
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 29, 2023 12:50:52 GMT 1
If you give Rhodes enough chances he'll score goals...The way Town played him was ridiculous and failed to capitalise on what he does well..it was a joke bringing him back to then play that way. In any case he's a better header of the ball than Ward in every situation, can shield the ball batter and still has that natural instinct in the opponents box...but he needs the ball first of all. He's only 33, that's not a 'past it' age... If you give any striker ENOUGH chances they'll score, the difficulty is finding one that scores from few chances. That was Rhodes 12 years ago but not now, not at this level. |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 29, 2023 12:51:29 GMT 1
I don’t think either Simpson or Rhodes are the answer to our striker issues. Neither are Championship standard strikers and neither would get 8-12 goals between now and the end of the season Both, for different reasons, needs to be playing as many minutes as possible. At 33, Rhodes is coming towards the end of his career and needs to be playing to earn another contract. Simpson is 22 in early February so needs to be playing as much as possible to continue his development. Leave them both out on loan If you think we have the money to sign a younger more prolific striker that will bag 10 goals between now and the end of the season I suggest you need to adjust your expectations a tad. Rhodes can and will do a job with the right service. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2023 13:11:18 GMT 1
In the 8 seasons prior to this one Rhodes has played 208 championship games and scored 38 goals. That’s a goal every 5.5 games.
I honestly don’t think he can do it at this level anymore. League 1 is very much his level now in my opinion.
And if we haven’t got the money to sign a striker that could bag 8-12 goals in 21 league games, then we might as well forget it. Burgzorg has 6 in 20…… So essentially a striker slightly better than him. You honestly don’t think we have the money to buy a striker that’s a couple goals better than Burgzorg?
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Post by Terry Jacko on Dec 29, 2023 13:12:31 GMT 1
I don’t think either Simpson or Rhodes are the answer to our striker issues. Neither are Championship standard strikers and neither would get 8-12 goals between now and the end of the season Both, for different reasons, needs to be playing as many minutes as possible. At 33, Rhodes is coming towards the end of his career and needs to be playing to earn another contract. Simpson is 22 in early February so needs to be playing as much as possible to continue his development. Leave them both out on loan No one is saying Rhodes alone is the answer to our striker issue. Do you think Rhodes is a better option to bring off the bench than Hudlin or Harratt? Rhodes signed a 3 year deal on good money, if we need him to play a part he should come back. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2023 13:22:05 GMT 1
I don’t think either Simpson or Rhodes are the answer to our striker issues. Neither are Championship standard strikers and neither would get 8-12 goals between now and the end of the season Both, for different reasons, needs to be playing as many minutes as possible. At 33, Rhodes is coming towards the end of his career and needs to be playing to earn another contract. Simpson is 22 in early February so needs to be playing as much as possible to continue his development. Leave them both out on loan No one is saying Rhodes alone is the answer to our striker issue. Do you think Rhodes is a better option to bring off the bench than Hudlin or Harratt? Rhodes signed a 3 year deal on good money, if we need him to play a part he should come back. I’d rather have Rhodes than either of those 2 yes. But if we can get someone just a bit better than Burgzorg, we’d not need Rhodes. If we bring Rhodes back and don’t bring in another striker, then we’ve not solved the striker issue |
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 29, 2023 14:21:21 GMT 1
I'm sentimental when it comes to football... I want him back so that he can score his 100 goals for Huddersfield Town.
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 29, 2023 14:28:53 GMT 1
In the 8 seasons prior to this one Rhodes has played 208 championship games and scored 38 goals. That’s a goal every 5.5 games. I honestly don’t think he can do it at this level anymore. League 1 is very much his level now in my opinion. And if we haven’t got the money to sign a striker that could bag 8-12 goals in 21 league games, then we might as well forget it. Burgzorg has 6 in 20…… So essentially a striker slightly better than him. You honestly don’t think we have the money to buy a striker that’s a couple goals better than Burgzorg? You are essentially asking for a younger striker that averages 1 goal every 2 games. Those are like gold-dust and will be sought after by teams in the top 6. Given our budget and league position it just ain't going to happen. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2023 14:49:34 GMT 1
In the 8 seasons prior to this one Rhodes has played 208 championship games and scored 38 goals. That’s a goal every 5.5 games. I honestly don’t think he can do it at this level anymore. League 1 is very much his level now in my opinion. And if we haven’t got the money to sign a striker that could bag 8-12 goals in 21 league games, then we might as well forget it. Burgzorg has 6 in 20…… So essentially a striker slightly better than him. You honestly don’t think we have the money to buy a striker that’s a couple goals better than Burgzorg? You are essentially asking for a younger striker that averages 1 goal every 2 games. Those are like gold-dust and will be sought after by teams in the top 6. Given our budget and league position it just ain't going to happen. Can i ask you to highlight where i said a young striker? Burgzorg is 25 years old. he has 6 in 20. We managed to find him and sign him on loan for the season even with our budget and the fact that we’d been in a relegation battle all of last season. i’m asking for a striker who can score 8 - 12 in 21. so a striker that can score 2 - 4 more goals in 1 more game than Burgzorg has scored. Why isn’t that going to happen? And remember that Burgzorg had scored those goals in a team that’s not had a lot of possession or created a lot of chances. So in a team gaining more possession and creating more chances he may well have 8-10 in 20. If we consider that the club are probably looking to bring in additional quality players to help us gain more possession and create more chances, in essence, why can we not find another Burgzorg? |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 29, 2023 15:04:18 GMT 1
You are essentially asking for a younger striker that averages 1 goal every 2 games. Those are like gold-dust and will be sought after by teams in the top 6. Given our budget and league position it just ain't going to happen. Can i ask you to highlight where i said a young striker? Burgzorg is 25 years old. he has 6 in 20. We managed to find him and sign him on loan for the season even with our budget and the fact that we’d been in a relegation battle all of last season. i’m asking for a striker who can score 8 - 12 in 21. so a striker that can score 2 - 4 more goals in 1 more game than Burgzorg has scored. Why isn’t that going to happen? And remember that Burgzorg had scored those goals in a team that’s not had a lot of possession or created a lot of chances. So in a team gaining more possession and creating more chances he may well have 8-10 in 20. If we consider that the club are probably looking to bring in additional quality players to help us gain more possession and create more chances, in essence, why can we not find another Burgzorg? Well Jordan Rhodes has scored 15 goals this season, why can't he do that job? |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2023 15:21:50 GMT 1
38 goals in 208 champions goals over the last 8 seasons prior to this one at an average of a goal ever 5 and a half games perhaps suggests that he most likely won’t score 8-12 in the last 21 championship games of this season.
The most goals he’s scored in a full season in the championship in the last 8 seasons is 7 in the 20/21 season. That also suggests that he’s not likely to get 8-12 in the last 21 games this season
Does his 15 League 1 goals mean Steve Clarke will be selecting him for the Euros?
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 29, 2023 15:30:51 GMT 1
38 goals in 208 champions goals over the last 8 seasons prior to this one at an average of a goal ever 5 and a half games perhaps suggests that he most likely won’t score 8-12 in the last 21 championship games of this season. The most goals he’s scored in a full season in the championship in the last 8 seasons is 7 in the 20/21 season. That also suggests that he’s not likely to get 8-12 in the last 21 games this season Does his 15 League 1 goals mean Steve Clarke will be selecting him for the Euros? He has never had a sustained run in a team that has never played to his strengths. We are now playing 2 up top, I would suggest we will see a better yield from him. |
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Post by willo on Dec 29, 2023 15:35:27 GMT 1
The only question is is he better than what we currently have. If the answer is a resounding yes, then why wouldn’t we recall him and then hope for another striker in the January window. 🪟
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Post by goodbet on Dec 29, 2023 15:38:23 GMT 1
38 goals in 208 champions goals over the last 8 seasons prior to this one at an average of a goal ever 5 and a half games perhaps suggests that he most likely won’t score 8-12 in the last 21 championship games of this season. The most goals he’s scored in a full season in the championship in the last 8 seasons is 7 in the 20/21 season. That also suggests that he’s not likely to get 8-12 in the last 21 games this season Does his 15 League 1 goals mean Steve Clarke will be selecting him for the Euros? He has never had a sustained run in a team that has never played to his strengths. We are now playing 2 up top, I would suggest we will see a better yield from him. The type of player that Rhodes needs to play alongside of him is a hardworking, strong and unselfish player that we don't have at this time. I can't see it working with one of the players we currently have and it would only be for half a season as I can't see him being a long term solution. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2023 15:43:01 GMT 1
38 goals in 208 champions goals over the last 8 seasons prior to this one at an average of a goal ever 5 and a half games perhaps suggests that he most likely won’t score 8-12 in the last 21 championship games of this season. The most goals he’s scored in a full season in the championship in the last 8 seasons is 7 in the 20/21 season. That also suggests that he’s not likely to get 8-12 in the last 21 games this season Does his 15 League 1 goals mean Steve Clarke will be selecting him for the Euros? He has never had a sustained run in a team that has never played to his strengths. We are now playing 2 up top, I would suggest we will see a better yield from him. That’s almost comical He’s done absolutely nothing at championships level for 8 years….. But the reason is that the clubs he’s been signed for have never given him a sustained run or played to his strengths…..Not that he’s just not good enough at championship level Playing at League 1 in a team playing to his strengths is his level. |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 29, 2023 15:43:07 GMT 1
Simpson and Hudlin are both crap. Neither of them will move to Championship clubs once they leave Huddersfield Town. That tells you how good they are. Simpson better of the two imo, which at the moment is the pertinent point. Rhodes significantly better than Harrat. In order I'd go Rhodes, Simpson/Harrat, Hudlin. Bringing both back is a no brainer imo especially since Simpson is doing nothing at Northampton. Harratt fits our style more than Rhodes as he harries the defence. Harratt is also a fantastic finisher and makes very intelligent runs, just like Rhodes. He just came into the team at the wrong time with too much expectation. |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 29, 2023 15:43:57 GMT 1
38 goals in 208 champions goals over the last 8 seasons prior to this one at an average of a goal ever 5 and a half games perhaps suggests that he most likely won’t score 8-12 in the last 21 championship games of this season. The most goals he’s scored in a full season in the championship in the last 8 seasons is 7 in the 20/21 season. That also suggests that he’s not likely to get 8-12 in the last 21 games this season Does his 15 League 1 goals mean Steve Clarke will be selecting him for the Euros? He has never had a sustained run in a team that has never played to his strengths. We are now playing 2 up top, I would suggest we will see a better yield from him. Didn't do much under Fozza when he played both Ward and Rhodes up top numerous times. |
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