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Post by Tinpot on Jan 4, 2024 23:31:55 GMT 1
Going nowhere at Ipswich. Not true at all. He was highly regarded and had just returned from a successful loan spell at Brentford. He wanted regular football but Keane was his typical self, an arrogant wanker, and made him sit it out and wait instead, favouring senior pros like Walter’s instead. He was pissed off he was sold though. If we hadn’t have signed, Brentford and others would have. They also had Connor Wickham breaking through at the same time & RK thought he was the better bet.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 5, 2024 7:02:38 GMT 1
Not true at all. He was highly regarded and had just returned from a successful loan spell at Brentford. He wanted regular football but Keane was his typical self, an arrogant wanker, and made him sit it out and wait instead, favouring senior pros like Walter’s instead. He was pissed off he was sold though. If we hadn’t have signed, Brentford and others would have. They also had Connor Wickham breaking through at the same time & RK thought he was the better bet. Tbf, he played at a higher level and for longer.
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Post by huddsinchamp on Jan 5, 2024 21:27:32 GMT 1
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. We have signed a striker and attacking midfielder ( this is all well and good ) but how much better would we all feel that if we have Jordan in the squad. He has the ability to convert that one chance that may get us 3 points instead of one of 1 point instead of none. Yeah he is not what he was 10 years ago but we don’t necessarily need him to be. His instinct and positional sense is second to none, and when we are having to pump the ball into the box try to tell me a better player at our disposal you would like to have positioning himself where the ball is going to fall or where there is that chance to peel off his defender and get that chance ( which we all no hd converts most of his chances ). It would be totally mad not to bring him back because he will not be a 90 minute player but one of outstanding instinct and positioning. Getting on the end of a Sorba cross may just keep us in the championship. I would rather we have him until the end of the season and then see where we are. We have to have everything available to us to avoid relegation. Sheff Wed and QPR are without doubt going to accumulate some points. If we let the league 1 top goalscorer stay in league 1 then I will be shocked as this would be like owning a fish and chip shop but not having a fire extinguisher ( analogy ) better to have one at your disposal than not.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 5, 2024 21:29:56 GMT 1
No thanks.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jan 5, 2024 21:36:04 GMT 1
Proof that however many you get, they will still type shite.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jan 5, 2024 21:36:10 GMT 1
With the new striker joining, would he want to come back to play a bit-part?
Maybe it would be worth seeing how much Blackpool are prepared to stump up to sign him permanently under threat of him being recalled?
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 5, 2024 21:37:24 GMT 1
Nah.
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Post by wigster on Jan 5, 2024 21:39:05 GMT 1
Rhodes playing up front, not on his own, but with a big target man alongside ? Yes please.
If it doesn't work out then we've lost nothing, and the usual suspects can continue their criticisms of him.
But give him a chance.
Or wait for Ward Harratt, Hudlin etc etc to come good ...
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Post by rockwall on Jan 5, 2024 21:44:56 GMT 1
Put the beer down...
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Post by huddsinchamp on Jan 5, 2024 21:48:15 GMT 1
If he was 28 people would be saying bring him back bring him back - Top goalscorer league 1. He is a goalscorer and still capable of them crucial goals. I Rembrandt seeing David Trezeguet playing in a ex pro game full of international players. He hadn’t lost that positional instinct you have it if you don’t Jordan has it give him half a season and you will see. It’s a free shot for us so let’s not throw it away, keep him secure our safety and then let him go and a big thanks. God forbid we end up in league 1 then we re-sign him. He is revitalized and his instinct is now sharp and we are mutts if we don’t utilise this !!!!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 5, 2024 21:57:22 GMT 1
If he was 28 people would be saying bring him back bring him back - Top goalscorer league 1. He is a goalscorer and still capable of them crucial goals. I Remember seeing David Trezeguet playing in a ex pro game full of international players. He hadn’t lost that positional instinct you have it if you don’t Jordan has it give him half a season and you will see. It’s a free shot for us so let’s not throw it away, keep him secure our safety and then let him go and a big thanks. God forbid we end up in league 1 then we re-sign him. He is revitalized and his instinct is now sharp and we are mutts if we don’t utilise this !!!! Let's just get Trezeguet out of retirement then
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 6, 2024 9:27:41 GMT 1
I don't see how JR's age is relevant as long as he can still do the job.
He's not a long term solution but nor is 19 year old Matos. Neither will be our player next season.
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Post by Richard1986 on Jan 8, 2024 20:45:26 GMT 1
15 goals, 3 assists in 21 matches in league below. It would be crazy not to recall him for anything other than financial reasons at the momoment given that we are involved at the bottom of the table.
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 9, 2024 15:08:08 GMT 1
Confirmed he's not returning.
Fantastic news.
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Post by Sparrow on Jan 9, 2024 15:17:48 GMT 1
With Burgzorg out injured that must mean we are looking at brining in another striker. I would assume a loan??
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 9, 2024 15:17:54 GMT 1
Confirmed he's not returning. Fantastic news. only fantastic, if the cf's brought in can score goals at this level. Rhodes can still get you 5/7 goals a season, which yes isn't much but is often a winner of a game. I would rather have Rhodes than Ward at the club any day of the week, at least Rhodes can stay fit. Ward is just happy to take the wage packet for 2 years and hardly play, Rhodes has always kept himself fit.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jan 9, 2024 15:26:48 GMT 1
I’d read into that we are in the market for another striker.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 9, 2024 15:28:40 GMT 1
I’d read into that we are in the market for another striker. also Nagle said to that fella, now weather he is reliable or not am not sure. But a cf we will be excited about is sgining ? guess it wasn't rhodes coming back that he was eluding to .
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 9, 2024 15:30:41 GMT 1
Confirmed he's not returning. Fantastic news. only fantastic, if the cf's brought in can score goals at this level. Rhodes can still get you 5/7 goals a season, which yes isn't much but is often a winner of a game. I would rather have Rhodes than Ward at the club any day of the week, at least Rhodes can stay fit. Ward is just happy to take the wage packet for 2 years and hardly play, Rhodes has always kept himself fit. I'd rather have neither. Both old news and we should never have brought either of them back.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jan 9, 2024 15:31:39 GMT 1
Confirmed he's not returning. Fantastic news. Hopefully means more game time for “big Huds”
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jan 9, 2024 15:32:34 GMT 1
only fantastic, if the cf's brought in can score goals at this level. Rhodes can still get you 5/7 goals a season, which yes isn't much but is often a winner of a game. I would rather have Rhodes than Ward at the club any day of the week, at least Rhodes can stay fit. Ward is just happy to take the wage packet for 2 years and hardly play, Rhodes has always kept himself fit. I'd rather have neither. Both old news and we should never have brought either of them back. Rhodes was worth it for that Luton goal alone but I agree, 3 year deal as well was it? Bonkers.
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 9, 2024 15:35:19 GMT 1
Confirmed he's not returning. Fantastic news. Hopefully means more game time for “big Huds” Yeah, at Bradley Rangers.
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 9, 2024 15:36:20 GMT 1
I'd rather have neither. Both old news and we should never have brought either of them back. Rhodes was worth it for that Luton goal alone but I agree, 3 year deal as well was it? Bonkers. The fans were loving it at the time though. The way he left in 2012 should have ensured he was never welcomed back to Huddersfield Town in a month of Sundays.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 9, 2024 15:42:25 GMT 1
Rhodes was worth it for that Luton goal alone but I agree, 3 year deal as well was it? Bonkers. The fans were loving it at the time though. The way he left in 2012 should have ensured he was never welcomed back to Huddersfield Town in a month of Sundays. He didn't leave that badly to be fair, still played and got a move that tripled his wages. Plus the year before single handed took the club up a league near enough. Rhodes is not what he was far from it, but he is fit for selection week in week out, Where is Ward o wait. Which player is more use to the club if we had to select one or the other from now till the end of the season? remember in choosing one of them you probs wont be able to pick more than a few times.
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 9, 2024 15:44:38 GMT 1
The fans were loving it at the time though. The way he left in 2012 should have ensured he was never welcomed back to Huddersfield Town in a month of Sundays. He didn't leave that badly to be fair, still played and got a move that tripled his wages. Plus the year before single handed took the club up a league near enough. Rhodes is not what he was far from it, but he is fit for selection week in week out, Where is Ward o wait. Which player is more use to the club if we had to select one or the other from now till the end of the season? remember in choosing one of them you probs wont be able to pick more than a few times. He threatened to go on strike unless we sold him. He was fantastic in his first spell, but his departure, which was all about money and nothing about furthering his career, showed what he was all about. Money. Certain players have had abuse from Town fans over far less than what Rhodes did. I saw Ward do far more last season to help keep us up than Rhodes did.
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Post by B97 on Jan 9, 2024 15:46:07 GMT 1
He didn't leave that badly to be fair, still played and got a move that tripled his wages. Plus the year before single handed took the club up a league near enough. Rhodes is not what he was far from it, but he is fit for selection week in week out, Where is Ward o wait. Which player is more use to the club if we had to select one or the other from now till the end of the season? remember in choosing one of them you probs wont be able to pick more than a few times. He threatened to go on strike unless we sold him. He was fantastic in his first spell, but his departure, which was all about money and nothing about furthering his career, showed what he was all about. Money. Certain players have had abuse from Town fans over far less than what Rhodes did. I saw Ward do far more last season to help keep us up than Rhodes did. Tbf Blackburn offering 50k plus and just come down from the Prem. Absolute no brainer
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 9, 2024 15:47:46 GMT 1
I’d read into that we are in the market for another striker. I'd read into that, that our fax machine is fucked again.
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 9, 2024 15:49:54 GMT 1
He threatened to go on strike unless we sold him. He was fantastic in his first spell, but his departure, which was all about money and nothing about furthering his career, showed what he was all about. Money. Certain players have had abuse from Town fans over far less than what Rhodes did. I saw Ward do far more last season to help keep us up than Rhodes did. Tbf Blackburn offering 50k plus and just come down from the Prem. Absolute no brainer He could have played higher, it was always a sideways move. Blackburn are no bigger than us. Blackburn finished level on points with us that season. He was only ever bothered about money.
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Post by cuz on Jan 9, 2024 15:52:24 GMT 1
Not true at all. He was highly regarded and had just returned from a successful loan spell at Brentford. He wanted regular football but Keane was his typical self, an arrogant wanker, and made him sit it out and wait instead, favouring senior pros like Walter’s instead. He was pissed off he was sold though. If we hadn’t have signed, Brentford and others would have. They also had Connor Wickham breaking through at the same time & RK thought he was the better bet. Hope it's on the proviso they pick up ALL his wages.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Jan 9, 2024 15:59:10 GMT 1
Confirmed he's not returning. Fantastic news. I don't often respond bud, but I've seen some really interesting takes from you. Some I agree with, some i'm really confused by. An example here and then with the ending "Fantastic news". It's a strange call buddy that one. Each to their own on opinions, but I'd like to respectfully counter, if thats okay? (Pun intended ) I'm not sure why anybody wouldn't Rhodes back (based on our current predicament), he's got more professional goals in his nutsack than the options we've had on the bench in recent times/this season. That itself would be an upgrade. I just have zero belief that pre Bojan signing we have any goals in us whatsoever. Could a few of those goals help us in our situation, if the time came? Absolutely. They could be the difference of anything from 3-9 points. I believe. But, please note i'm not obsessed about bringing Jordan back, but to have him as an option would have been better than any option we have currently. In a system where Warnock played 1 up top, I can see JR doesn't necessarily offer us an awful lot, as he's always been a striker who's strengths are completely suited in a front 2. But, anything inside the box I'd bet big money on him either putting one away or creating a very good goalscoring opportunity. DM I think likes to play 2 up top, but he more often on or not has shown to like playing 10 defenders camped in our own half Now, on the contrary if he isn't coming back, I can only assume thats down to a few things. (Especially with the injuries we have): - Ward (Sicknote), - Harrrett (I'd like to see him get some more experience in L1), - Hudlin (Needs run of games in L1, to see if he really can be an asset, in any capacity), - Burgzorg (out injured) 1) We have some striker/s lined up that we believe fit the bill. - Good news, if its a quality acquisition for the now! 2) He probably wasn't too excited to come back (who blames him? He's on a good run of form, feeling good and is loved there). 3) We're maybe trying to agree a deal with rest of the season loan, with permanent sell (fee included now) at end of season. I often like to be neutral and balanced to most opinions, and beliefs. But, our attitude as a collective (not singling you out, in any stretch here bud, or saying this is you by the way, just based on half the comments/threads on this board), is nothing short of appalling at times. We often provide vitriol opinions/comments, and personal attacks on players, coaches, board members. - I will use Phil, Dean, Leigh Bromby, Sorba previously, Scott High, Hudlin etc. (Name calling, abuse etc) and so much more, have a strong opinion but not push it past the boundaries. - Create scapegoats very often, I can't remember a season where we genuinely haven't. - Yes it's a fans forum, it doesn't truly mean anything to the real world, but it occasionally trickles into the stands, onto social media. Players, Players agents, Families, I am sure do basic search engine searches these days for a background, a feel so to speak of a club. I know if I was an agent of a player, I wouldn't be encouraging Town as a first option thats for sure. I am not saying we should be happy clappers, or be blind to the BS that happens, or call out laziness or bone idolness, or occasionally performances. But, there's devil in the details, without sounding like a sales 101 book. "Attitude is a little thing, that makes a big difference" - Winston Churchill The same guy also said "Success is the ability of going from failure, to failure without losing enthusiasm" Just a thought.
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