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Post by saintlyterrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:11:36 GMT 1
yes , not many options to change a match or deal with injuries. What do you know or care? Rather harsh. Bite your tongue, please.
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Post by mrg on Aug 5, 2023 17:13:17 GMT 1
I don't rate Tom Edwards at all. Looks ridiculously slow and kept getting caught out. I don't no whether he's just rusty from not playing much or he's just poor. He looked shit didnt he for this level? Let the cross in fjr the first goal and generally all over the shop, like the rest of the team really, calmed diwn when hogg came on but was a league 1 watch. Boty of those teams will struggle this year.
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Post by Rickys mellons on Aug 5, 2023 17:13:39 GMT 1
We had enough chances to win this game, just not enough quality. We were desperately short in midfield. We looked slightly better when hogg came on, and looking to push on and win the game before 2 minute of madness.The second goal warnock will be going ballistic now and the 3rd 30 seconds later game over. Roll on Leicester 🙄
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Post by Teddington Ted on Aug 5, 2023 17:13:44 GMT 1
Are we still all blaming Carlos?
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 5, 2023 17:13:53 GMT 1
Well... where to start with that? I actually had us down to win today. I actually think we were the better side but still very poor and without any quality. REG - Simply not a Championship player, I still havent' seen him have a good game Diarra - I've watched football for 30 years; that must be up there with top 5 performances I've ever seen. His first 3 touch gave away possession and his 4th tackled his own player and it got gradually worse from there! Defence - Wow I thought Sheff weds looked cumbersome and slow, I thought this one the one area we'd be solid this season. Even Nicholls for the first goal. .. It's game 1, I don't think its an understatement to say it's panic stations. We lost to a very poor side there and we are weaker than last season, we already have a fairly sizeable injury list and the we're lead to believe there's no money to spend. If this wasn't the game to bring on Harrat and Hudlin I don't know what was. Sorry NW but I thought our subs were too late and where was Headley? I thought he was one of our best players in the last 15 games of last season and pushed back the opposition; he was very hard to play against. I think NW got it wrong today. His picks of REG and Diarra let him down badly. Not looking forward to the leicester game I only scanned your post, but I gather that REG is shite, Diarra is shite, the defence is shite and you are panicking.
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Post by htafc12 on Aug 5, 2023 17:14:53 GMT 1
Well... where to start with that? I actually had us down to win today. I think we were the better side but still very poor and without any quality. REG - Simply not a Championship player, I still havent' seen him have a good game Diarra - I've watched football for 30 years; that must be up there with top 5 worst performances I've ever seen. His first 3 touch gave away possession and his 4th tackled his own player and it got gradually worse from there! Defence - Wow I thought Sheff weds looked cumbersome and slow, I thought this one the one area we'd be solid this season. Even Nicholls for the first goal. .. It's game 1, I don't think its an understatement to say it's panic stations. We lost to a very poor side there and we are weaker than last season, we already have a fairly sizeable injury list and the we're lead to believe there's no money to spend. If this wasn't the game to bring on Harrat and Hudlin I don't know what was. Sorry NW but I thought our subs were too late and where was Headley? I thought he was one of our best players in the last 15 games of last season and pushed back the opposition; he was very hard to play against. I think NW got it wrong today. His picks of REG and Diarra let him down badly. Not looking forward to the leicester game My exact thoughts. I’d like to try pull a positive out of todays game so I don’t get shut down. Genuinely saw nothing positive. Was a shambles that Feels like a game holmes would’ve stood out in. We all knew we had problems last season. Dare I say it todays starting 11 was worse than our worst team last season. Bit gutted watching that if I’m honest
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Post by upthetown on Aug 5, 2023 17:15:13 GMT 1
3-4 first team players short of a competitive squad. I get there is still time left in the transfer window but it would have been good to hit the ground running.
Gone: Camara Holmes Hungbo Knockhaert Vaclik Bilo Simpson KKH/Lowton
Looking to offload Rhodes
Plus injuries to Turton, Lees, Kasumu, now Pearson. Plus Hogg/Jones have missed time recently with injury.
And we’ve brought in Edwards and Maxwell.
We are so lacking in quality and depth.
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Post by foxtrot666 on Aug 5, 2023 17:15:22 GMT 1
Much too early to panic but a poor start although not unexpected against a team with such good home form. Feel for the fans who made the long journey.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:15:48 GMT 1
Okay first game, let's look at the positive from this game, what can we take out of it for our next match?... I'm having a long think...
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Post by rockwall on Aug 5, 2023 17:15:54 GMT 1
Over 90 mins, I thought we were probably the better team. Scoreline doesn't show that though.
It is clear we need a proper central midfielder. That 2nd goal from Mumba was a joke. Like a knife through butter.
I love giving youth a chance, but Diarra is still very much learning. Has little bursts of what he can do, but more often than not is anonymous and loses the ball.
Our left side is so weak. Ruffels has improved, but isnt good enough to be our main left back/wing back. As a back up I am happy with Jim.
Really do not see what REG offers in the DM role. He looks lost, I understand it isn't his position so I can be lenient.
Every week we look a yard slower than the opposition when it comes to attacking. We don't ever look like we can get I behind quickly, yet the opposition always seem to be able to do it.
If we don't address the striker situation, we will be one of the lowest scoring teams this season. I like Ward, but he isn't the answer now.
FFP restrictions, whether people agree with it or not are there for a reason. We have to deal with it the best we can. If we can make the JSS a little bit of a fortress we will be okay. I don't think we will be as bad as last season at home.
As fans we need to stick together. None of us can change anything. I am now going do the best to ignore the WUMS after this post. Yhere are plenty of fantastic posters on here who won't agree with what I have said, but those posters would reply in a respectable way and debate as a debate should be!
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 5, 2023 17:15:58 GMT 1
Only watched the last 15 mins.
Multiball will not make much of a difference.
Injury time, hopefully we’ll see players realising that the only thing they do is break up the momentum, so I look forward to double figure added on in a few games this season.
Didn’t see any of the goals, but it seemed fairly even in that last few mins. We’re still struggling defensively by the looks, not helped by MP going off, but it’s not a new thing and we need to do far better.
Can’t write them off after 1 game, but we’ve obviously a tough follow up next Sat. A point on the board would maybe have been a fairer result on the part of the game I saw.
If the transfer rumours about Jebbison are correct that would be a good addition for us, we need some creativity up front and this lad didn’t get a run in their team from what I can recall.
UTT!!!
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Post by prepare on Aug 5, 2023 17:16:46 GMT 1
Thanks Kev..... A poster yesterday was dismissing plymouths summer spend. I mentioned Mumba was one of the best in the EFL last year and looks like he was the difference. We have to show respect to the other clubs and also the strongest championship in a generation. I do not think kev gets it and the window combined with the tweets prove it. I am so glad we get a pre rehearsed doc where Kev wears sandals and talks about how he is working class yet never had a working class job. I wonder if people on here will finally wake up. Will you stop being so bloody bitter mate, it's like you're enjoying the fact we lost so you can bleat on more. We need some players in, we all know it but will you just chill the feck out. agree
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 5, 2023 17:17:11 GMT 1
Why are we waiting so long to make the subs. Because every sub we can make reduces the chance of getting a result? The available squad is far too inexperienced and/or low quality - we've got probably 8 worthy 1st team Championship players, when you can't really get away with much less than 13 if you aren't going to struggle.
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Post by jim59 on Aug 5, 2023 17:18:09 GMT 1
Abysmal.
No threat.
Midfield missing.
Strangely for a warnock side no real fight.
Players just left to run at us midfield miles away defence exposed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2023 17:18:21 GMT 1
Well... where to start with that? I actually had us down to win today. I actually think we were the better side but still very poor and without any quality. REG - Simply not a Championship player, I still havent' seen him have a good game Diarra - I've watched football for 30 years; that must be up there with top 5 performances I've ever seen. His first 3 touch gave away possession and his 4th tackled his own player and it got gradually worse from there! Defence - Wow I thought Sheff weds looked cumbersome and slow, I thought this one the one area we'd be solid this season. Even Nicholls for the first goal. .. It's game 1, I don't think its an understatement to say it's panic stations. We lost to a very poor side there and we are weaker than last season, we already have a fairly sizeable injury list and the we're lead to believe there's no money to spend. If this wasn't the game to bring on Harrat and Hudlin I don't know what was. Sorry NW but I thought our subs were too late and where was Headley? I thought he was one of our best players in the last 15 games of last season and pushed back the opposition; he was very hard to play against. I think NW got it wrong today. His picks of REG and Diarra let him down badly. Not looking forward to the leicester game I only scanned your post, but I gather that REG is shite, Diarra is shite, the defence is shite and you are panicking. Glad I'm not the only one!
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 5, 2023 17:18:49 GMT 1
Another season of absolute w**k to look forward to. Yes but next season...
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Post by crux on Aug 5, 2023 17:18:54 GMT 1
Just watched the replay of the Mumba goal, Thomas might as well have just stopped as soon as Mumba got the ball. It was shite defending by Thomas from start to finish. Listening to the commentary you'd think it was George Best at his best, but Mumba just made the same run Koroma does most games. Unfortunately Koroma doesn't have Thomas marking him 🤔
The 3rd goal was a great run from the centre forward off the back of Helik, and a well weighted pass to find him.
Weird game, overall we were pretty shite, but could easily have scored 2 or 3 more goals.
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 5, 2023 17:20:24 GMT 1
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Post by rockwall on Aug 5, 2023 17:20:28 GMT 1
Why are we waiting so long to make the subs. Because every sub we can make reduces the chance of getting a result? The available squad is far too inexperienced and/or low quality - we've got probably 8 worthy 1st team Championship players, when you can't really get away with much less than 13 if you aren't going to struggle. At the time of posting that, Jackson had been there ready to come on at 1-1 and had already been waiting 2 minutes. He eventually came on at 3-1.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 5, 2023 17:20:45 GMT 1
Just think before you post shite and you'll be a much better who gets some credence. No ill react to what I see and that was a team devoid of any quality or creativity against another poor side. You remain hopelessly optimistic of you choose so
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Post by wigster on Aug 5, 2023 17:20:54 GMT 1
Not going to add to the general disillusionment, other than to say that EVERYBODY I know expected that.
Plymouth were poor, but at times had pace, a midfield, and good finishers.
We had none of those three.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2023 17:21:55 GMT 1
Ward should've scored from 3 yards out.
Rudoni should've scored the free header from 6 years out
Koroma should finished the chance in the first half when he was under no pressure
Very wasteful today
I thought out corners were poor today too
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Post by Sio on Aug 5, 2023 17:22:21 GMT 1
Was anyone expecting a different outcome here?
We haven't strengthened. Arguably weaker. Yes Warnock is a genius but over 46 games is an entirely different proposition - that end of season resurgence isn't as easy to create over a full season.
Obviously all to play for but I think most anticipated another year of struggle.
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Post by wigster on Aug 5, 2023 17:22:51 GMT 1
Just watched the replay of the Mumba goal, Thomas might as well have just stopped as soon as Mumba got the ball. It was shite defending by Thomas from start to finish. Listening to the commentary you'd think it was George Best at his best, but Mumba just made the same run Koroma does most games. Unfortunately Koroma doesn't have Thomas marking him 🤔 The 3rd goal was a great run from the centre forward off the back of Helik, and a well weighted pass to find him. Weird game, overall we were pretty shite, but could easily have scored 2 or 3 more goals. Who would have scored them, Crux ?
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 5, 2023 17:24:15 GMT 1
Ward should've scored from 3 yards out. Rudoni should've scored the free header from 6 years out Koroma should finished the chance in the first half when he was under no pressure Very wasteful today I thought out corners were poor today too Just stop being so positive... of course, you are right on all four counts. Koroma's was not like him.
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Post by wiltshireterrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:24:19 GMT 1
Is it okay to be officially concerned. Same squad as last year minus a few. Expecting miracles again it seems ?
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:24:48 GMT 1
One new attacking signing would be a start but let's be honest we need 4 or 5 to have a chance this season. REG, Ward, Diarra, Hogg should be subs at best.
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 5, 2023 17:25:01 GMT 1
After the crowd just fucked around with the ball did the ref actually tell edwards to walk a metre backwards on a throw in? That’s incredible I’ve seen players just walk around ten metres with the ball forwards. To be fair Edwards is lucky he wasn't booked...it's a mandatory booking for going over the pitch surround without permission, and also pretty stupid of a player to do that amongst opposition fans if they don't want to end up getting a red card or kicked in - even more stupid now that multi-ball is back!
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Post by morleyterrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:25:20 GMT 1
Was anyone expecting a different outcome here? We haven't strengthened. Arguably weaker. Yes Warnock is a genius but over 46 games is an entirely different proposition - that end of season resurgence isn't as easy to create over a full season. Obviously all to play for but I think most anticipated another year of struggle. Some balanced words of wisdom
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Post by Galpharmer on Aug 5, 2023 17:25:24 GMT 1
Just seen the second and third goals. Fuck me rigid. No challenge for the second and one pass for the third. What do they actually do in pre season?
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