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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 5, 2023 17:25:29 GMT 1
Just on way home, proper disappointing that two poor sides but they had a little bit more quality that won them the game. Midfield was abysmal and absolutely nothing upfront unless we get some quality in it’s going to be a long hard season.
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Post by warnockbrasil on Aug 5, 2023 17:27:28 GMT 1
xg was essentially a draw . Plymouth had 2.17 town had 1.91. So I understand why some are optimistic. I would be too if there were signings coming.
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Post by stevvy on Aug 5, 2023 17:27:35 GMT 1
Just seen the goals on Sky.
1st goal is embarassing defensively, should NEVER have even had the opportunity to score.
2nd goal utterly criminal to let him run from where he did with absolutely no attempt to make it difficult for him, let alone to stop him.
3rd goal, stupid being robbed so cheaply in the middle of the pitch like that.
Basically all 3 goals were absolutely avoidable.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 5, 2023 17:27:41 GMT 1
After the crowd just fucked around with the ball did the ref actually tell edwards to walk a metre backwards on a throw in? That’s incredible I’ve seen players just walk around ten metres with the ball forwards. To be fair Edwards is lucky he wasn't booked...it's a mandatory booking for going over the pitch surround without permission, and also pretty stupid of a player to do that amongst opposition fans if they don't want to end up getting a red card or kicked in - even more stupid now that multi-ball is back! From the few mins I saw, it looked like multiball works if you’re at home & the home team win a corner, but otherwise it didn’t appear much different. Ball boys/girls will act accordingly & players will stretch the time wasting and grabbing yards in the hope it doesn’t cost them in added time at the end. |
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 5, 2023 17:28:00 GMT 1
Because every sub we can make reduces the chance of getting a result? The available squad is far too inexperienced and/or low quality - we've got probably 8 worthy 1st team Championship players, when you can't really get away with much less than 13 if you aren't going to struggle. At the time of posting that, Jackson had been there ready to come on at 1-1 and had already been waiting 2 minutes. He eventually came on at 3-1. Ah, I thought you meant "why do we wait so late in the game" to bring subs on, rather than "why does it take so long for us to make a sub when we've decided to make one". |
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 5, 2023 17:28:30 GMT 1
Fucking awful.
I think Warnock did a fantastic job of keeping us up but what worries me is the lack of animation and fight in him now. Would he have stood motionless years ago when Mumba waltzed past 7 of our players without challenge? Would he have accepted some of those performances today, and some last season?
To me, he's acting more like a mentor than manager to some of this lot. He's either doing his best to encourage them because he knows they're not good enough or it's just a case that the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead in the cage. Maybe this was one job too many.
Early days but this stood out to me last season too and no change after a full pre season with what is now "his squad", albeit a slim one.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:28:39 GMT 1
I don't rate Tom Edwards at all. Looks ridiculously slow and kept getting caught out. I don't no whether he's just rusty from not playing much or he's just poor. He looked shit didnt he for this level? Let the cross in fjr the first goal and generally all over the shop, like the rest of the team really, calmed diwn when hogg came on but was a league 1 watch. Boty of those teams will struggle this year. Kesler Hayden looked very good but we tossed him back to Villa when he was on good form for us. That performance is just not good enough, I feel really sorry for our great supporters who made this long trip, safe journey home peeps |
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Post by rockwall on Aug 5, 2023 17:28:48 GMT 1
At the time of posting that, Jackson had been there ready to come on at 1-1 and had already been waiting 2 minutes. He eventually came on at 3-1. Ah, I thought you meant "why do we wait so late in the game" to bring subs on, rather than "why does it take so long for us to make a sub when we've decided to make one". My wording didn't help I suppose! |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 5, 2023 17:28:56 GMT 1
Just seen the goals on Sky. 1st goal is embarassing defensively, should NEVER have even had the opportunity to score. 2nd goal utterly criminal to let him run from where he did with absolutely no attempt to make it difficult for him, let alone to stop him. 3rd goal, stupid being robbed so cheaply in the middle of the pitch like that. Basically all 3 goals were absolutely avoidable. Over 90% of goals are avoidable in some context. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 5, 2023 17:29:54 GMT 1
Just on way home, proper disappointing that two poor sides but they had a little bit more quality that won them the game. Midfield was abysmal and absolutely nothing upfront unless we get some quality in it’s going to be a long hard season. I love the 'two poor sides" quote... it's such an easy thing to post. It is meaningless. |
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Post by Champers on Aug 5, 2023 17:31:00 GMT 1
Is it okay to be officially concerned. Same squad as last year minus a few. Expecting miracles again it seems ? Of course, as I'm also very concerned. I'm not going to waste my time getting all angry about it, as it is what it is, but I've spent all summer thinking we're bang in trouble, and today just further reinforces my fears. Anything above 22nd in the table will do me, but I'm not confident. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Aug 5, 2023 17:31:49 GMT 1
Fucking awful. I think Warnock did a fantastic job of keeping us up but what worries me is the lack of animation and fight in him now. Would he have stood motionless years ago when Mumba waltzed past 7 of our players without challenge? Would he have accepted some of those performances today, and some last season? To me, he's acting more like a mentor than manager to some of this lot. He's either doing his best to encourage them because he knows they're not good enough or it's just a case that the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead in the cage. Maybe this was one job too many. Early days but this stood out to me last season too and no change after a full pre season with what is now "his squad", albeit a slim one. Great post and think you've nailed it with the bit in bold. He knows the FFP limitations and he knows this is as good as it's going to get, he's here to help KN by steadying the ship for a year. Encouragement and motivation are the only way this crop can perform, lambasting them is pointless as it's not their fault they are poor. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 5, 2023 17:33:17 GMT 1
Please tell me where it says we have no leaders |
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Post by townatheart on Aug 5, 2023 17:34:06 GMT 1
Just seen the goals on Sky. 1st goal is embarassing defensively, should NEVER have even had the opportunity to score. 2nd goal utterly criminal to let him run from where he did with absolutely no attempt to make it difficult for him, let alone to stop him. 3rd goal, stupid being robbed so cheaply in the middle of the pitch like that. Basically all 3 goals were absolutely avoidable. Over 90% of goals are avoidable in some context. True, to a point. But there is avoidable and then there is AVOIDABLE, and today sadly was the wrong end of that spectrum. |
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Post by wigster on Aug 5, 2023 17:34:12 GMT 1
Just on way home, proper disappointing that two poor sides but they had a little bit more quality that won them the game. Midfield was abysmal and absolutely nothing upfront unless we get some quality in it’s going to be a long hard season. I love the 'two poor sides" quote... it's such an easy thing to post. It is meaningless. Why on earth is it meaningless  |
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 5, 2023 17:36:04 GMT 1
Ward should've scored from 3 yards out. Rudoni should've scored the free header from 6 years out Koroma should finished the chance in the first half when he was under no pressure Very wasteful today I thought out corners were poor today tooI thought that too, before his little holiday in Blackburn Thomas would deliver his corners with real whip and pace but too many were just floated in today. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:37:01 GMT 1
Fucking awful. I think Warnock did a fantastic job of keeping us up but what worries me is the lack of animation and fight in him now. Would he have stood motionless years ago when Mumba waltzed past 7 of our players without challenge? Would he have accepted some of those performances today, and some last season? To me, he's acting more like a mentor than manager to some of this lot. He's either doing his best to encourage them because he knows they're not good enough or it's just a case that the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead in the cage. Maybe this was one job too many. Early days but this stood out to me last season too and no change after a full pre season with what is now "his squad", albeit a slim one. Great post and think you've nailed it with the bit in bold. He knows the FFP limitations and he knows this is as good as it's going to get, he's here to help KN by steadying the ship for a year. Encouragement and motivation are the only way this crop can perform, lambasting them is pointless as it's not their fault they are poor. Not a chance Warnock is happy to be here to take us down. If we don’t improve the squad I would imagine he might walk. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 5, 2023 17:37:24 GMT 1
Plymouth have barely lost at home in 18 months. They'll win plenty at Home Park and won't be close to going down. If we can escape from the position we were in in March, I'm not calling us relegated with 45 games to go. Personally I think that Plymouth will be right in the mix for relegation. Only time I’ve seen them and so a one game sample probably isn’t fair but they did not look a side that will be comfortable. We actually looked the better team for much of the game, which to me, indicates that Plymouth will struggle. Mumba looks a really good player but the defending for his goal was just schoolboy at best. In fact, all 3 goals were awful, Nicholls massively at fault (twice) for the first & a flat-footed, slow defence highlighted for the 3rd. How can people not see that REG should be nowhere near a Championship team, at FB, CB or DCM? Edwards has a decent throw but if he can't defend better than that, he's just not worth his place, let's hope it's just rustiness. Diarra is so frustrating, you don't know what you're going to get, he goes from the sublime to the ridiculous, but should be used as an impact sub. Koroma really poor, Sorba still making stupid challenges when we are in an attacking position. How can Hudlin not get onto the pitch after his pre-season, while Ward, yet again, offered nothing? I thought we'd win comfortably at half time, the wind was so strong but instead of shooting from distance with that wind behind us, we offered f all. Very disappointing, but all too predictable. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 5, 2023 17:38:54 GMT 1
Just on way home, proper disappointing that two poor sides but they had a little bit more quality that won them the game. Midfield was abysmal and absolutely nothing upfront unless we get some quality in it’s going to be a long hard season. I love the 'two poor sides" quote... it's such an easy thing to post. It is meaningless. Would you rather me say fucking awful! |
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 5, 2023 17:38:55 GMT 1
Please tell me where it says we have no leaders The bit where Warnock says there were a few leaders at Rotherham and not so many here. The original commentator can discuss but when he said "NONE" I took that to mean a descriptive none, (like, "we've got no brass"...when we actually have a small amount) - and as such, l ess than a few leaders is easily described as "we have no leaders" by any normal person 🤷♂️ |
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Post by koroma75 on Aug 5, 2023 17:40:05 GMT 1
Entirely predictable following on from a terrible preseason of zero activity. If Pearson is injured who replaces him? Is it ok that we’ve off loaded Boyle now?
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Post by ColchTerrier on Aug 5, 2023 17:41:41 GMT 1
O'Brien would have played with a cigar in his gob against these today. A loan signing of his ilk is desperatley needed!
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 5, 2023 17:42:44 GMT 1
I love the 'two poor sides" quote... it's such an easy thing to post. It is meaningless. Would you rather me say fucking awful! You can if you want... that's as meaningless as "two poor sides". |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 5, 2023 17:44:32 GMT 1
Town fans could do with learning how to lose. An enjoyable game up until their second and I think at that point we were the team who looked most likely. Three really bad goals conceded . Gutting really. But I saw this as a home banker before the game and I thought there was plenty to take from the game. A couple of players and everyone calms down and we'll be reet. For them saying it was an easy away game let's see . I bet Plymouth win far more than they lose at home.
One things for sure. Nagle will be reviewing his twitter interactions by the end of the day . I bet he can't quite believe how "all or nothing" our fans are . Learning how to lose is part of life
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Post by Leporid on Aug 5, 2023 17:45:28 GMT 1
"Who so best Town round with dismal stories, do but themselves confound."
A man I met in Devon once said that to me.
I said, "What you on about John? Everything's crap and there is no hope."
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Post by mrg on Aug 5, 2023 17:45:48 GMT 1
Just seen the goals on Sky. 1st goal is embarassing defensively, should NEVER have even had the opportunity to score. 2nd goal utterly criminal to let him run from where he did with absolutely no attempt to make it difficult for him, let alone to stop him. 3rd goal, stupid being robbed so cheaply in the middle of the pitch like that. Basically all 3 goals were absolutely avoidable. Over 90% of goals are avoidable in some context. Maybe, also 82% of stats are made up on the spot and today was a paticularly special kind of tactical train crash. The first goal was sunday leauge. The second the op is correct, no challenge made on a 25 yard run into the box. 3rd one happens, but we need to buck up fast and diarra, as good as he is with the ball at his feet, tripped his own players up twice in the first half. Yuta or him? Serously, its not even a decision. |
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 5, 2023 17:48:15 GMT 1
Oh dear. But then we’ve started with a weaker squad than last season. Could be a hard watch again.
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Post by mrg on Aug 5, 2023 17:48:26 GMT 1
Ward should've scored from 3 yards out. Rudoni should've scored the free header from 6 years out Koroma should finished the chance in the first half when he was under no pressure Very wasteful today I thought out corners were poor today tooI thought that too, before his little holiday in Blackburn Thomas would deliver his corners with real whip and pace but too many were just floated in today. And who was the coach that did all the training in that? Oh yeah, the now norwich coach narcis |
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Post by Leporid on Aug 5, 2023 17:49:34 GMT 1
Ward should've scored from 3 yards out. Rudoni should've scored the free header from 6 years out Koroma should finished the chance in the first half when he was under no pressure Very wasteful today I thought out corners were poor today tooI thought that too, before his little holiday in Blackburn Thomas would deliver his corners with real whip and pace but too many were just floated in today. He may have been suffering from wind. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 5, 2023 17:53:38 GMT 1
Personally I think that Plymouth will be right in the mix for relegation. Only time I’ve seen them and so a one game sample probably isn’t fair but they did not look a side that will be comfortable. We actually looked the better team for much of the game, which to me, indicates that Plymouth will struggle. Mumba looks a really good player but the defending for his goal was just schoolboy at best. In fact, all 3 goals were awful, Nicholls massively at fault (twice) for the first & a flat-footed, slow defence highlighted for the 3rd. How can people not see that REG should be nowhere near a Championship team, at FB, CB or DCM? Edwards has a decent throw but if he can't defend better than that, he's just not worth his place, let's hope it's just rustiness. D iarra is so frustrating, you don't know what you're going to get, he goes from the sublime to the ridiculous, but should be used as an impact sub. Koroma really poor, Sorba still making stupid challenges when we are in an attacking position. How can Hudlin not get onto the pitch after his pre-season, while Ward, yet again, offered nothing? I thought we'd win comfortably at half time, the wind was so strong but instead of shooting from distance with that wind behind us, we offered f all. Very disappointing, but all too predictable. He is, but he still had four shots including one that led to our goal. Ward on the other hand might as well not have been on the pitch for all he contributed. The less said about our defending for the goals, the better. |
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