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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 4, 2023 11:57:07 GMT 1
In 22/23 the average attendance in the Saudi Professional League was 9,339.
Lowest attendance was 284... Al Wehda 0 Al Fayha 1, 31/05/23.
Highest average was Al Ittihad 40,453 (up 21.5%) 2nd was Al Nassr 17,638 (up 110.5%) Lowest was Al Batin 3,418 (up 13.4%)
6/16 teams had attendance drops from last season.
12/16 had average attendances of less than 10,000
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Post by royrace on Aug 4, 2023 16:12:16 GMT 1
50 million subscribers Roy!! Sky have 12 million But they don't like football 🤣 I'm sure your knowledge of the Arab world and their interest in football is second to none Donny, well done. The thing is though I never said, thought or insinuated that 'they' don't like football?! That wasn't my point and I don't see how on earth that was your takeaway after reading my post! I think it's pretty obvious there is a massive interest in football! I can only think you're confusing my post with someone else's or maybe you're the one who's had a drink like hoggy hilariously accused me of doing. Happy Friday! Enjoy your weekend x
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Aug 4, 2023 16:44:06 GMT 1
I actually couldn't give a fook. I hope they all go over and earn their filthy money. Football is about the Championship down for me
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Post by NumeroUno on Aug 4, 2023 18:17:24 GMT 1
I moved to Saudi for work earlier in the year (hence the name change!) and it’s so interesting to have seen the reality here versus what the country is depicted as in Western social and mainstream media.
I could write many paragraphs about how wrong the views are, and how they’re driven by some outdated truths, but mostly propaganda, racism and some strange sense of superiority that is far from justified.
Provided you’re a normal person with good intentions it’s a truly outstanding place to be with a FAR better quality of life in its current state compared to UK and Europe. Throw in the truly mind blowing investment into the country (which has a land area and geographical variances almost as big as Europe) and a clear intent for further social changes and it’s without doubt the place to be for the foreseeable. Best way to describe it is it’s like Dubai 15 years ago but with infinitely more space and money at their disposal, a much better starting point, with a far bigger population that are largely very well educated and already wealthy, and an example/learnings to take from Dubai, Qatar etc.
Major changes only started a few years ago and there’s still a lot more to come, but so far my only gripe is the road layouts are poor and the quality of driving is awful, but I’m sure that will be addressed as well.
Add in earnings being tax free and being situated a short flight away from most places in the world and it’s an absolute no brainer for a footballer.
It’s hard to describe in words particularly with how strong the anti-Saudi narrative has been so I’d suggest that anyone with the means to should visit and find out for themselves.
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Post by sabailand on Aug 4, 2023 18:30:57 GMT 1
I moved to Saudi for work earlier in the year (hence the name change!) and it’s so interesting to have seen the reality here versus what the country is depicted as in Western social and mainstream media. I could write many paragraphs about how wrong the views are, and how they’re driven by some outdated truths, but mostly propaganda, racism and some strange sense of superiority that is far from justified. Provided you’re a normal person with good intentions it’s a truly outstanding place to be with a FAR better quality of life in its current state compared to UK and Europe. Throw in the truly mind blowing investment into the country (which has a land area and geographical variances almost as big as Europe) and a clear intent for further social changes and it’s without doubt the place to be for the foreseeable. Best way to describe it is it’s like Dubai 15 years ago but with infinitely more space and money at their disposal, a much better starting point, with a far bigger population that are largely very well educated and already wealthy, and an example/learnings to take from Dubai, Qatar etc. Major changes only started a few years ago and there’s still a lot more to come, but so far my only gripe is the road layouts are poor and the quality of driving is awful, but I’m sure that will be addressed as well. Add in earnings being tax free and being situated a short flight away from most places in the world and it’s an absolute no brainer for a footballer. It’s hard to describe in words particularly with how strong the anti-Saudi narrative has been so I’d suggest that anyone with the means to should visit and find out for themselves. I admit i've never been but as a casual visitor/tourist what is there for us, cant drink, women cant wear what they want although they can now drive cars, probabaly lots of rules and regulations whch we in the west dont know about, not saying things haven't improved but surely work is still the only reason most people would want to go there.
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Post by NumeroUno on Aug 4, 2023 19:00:40 GMT 1
I moved to Saudi for work earlier in the year (hence the name change!) and it’s so interesting to have seen the reality here versus what the country is depicted as in Western social and mainstream media. I could write many paragraphs about how wrong the views are, and how they’re driven by some outdated truths, but mostly propaganda, racism and some strange sense of superiority that is far from justified. Provided you’re a normal person with good intentions it’s a truly outstanding place to be with a FAR better quality of life in its current state compared to UK and Europe. Throw in the truly mind blowing investment into the country (which has a land area and geographical variances almost as big as Europe) and a clear intent for further social changes and it’s without doubt the place to be for the foreseeable. Best way to describe it is it’s like Dubai 15 years ago but with infinitely more space and money at their disposal, a much better starting point, with a far bigger population that are largely very well educated and already wealthy, and an example/learnings to take from Dubai, Qatar etc. Major changes only started a few years ago and there’s still a lot more to come, but so far my only gripe is the road layouts are poor and the quality of driving is awful, but I’m sure that will be addressed as well. Add in earnings being tax free and being situated a short flight away from most places in the world and it’s an absolute no brainer for a footballer. It’s hard to describe in words particularly with how strong the anti-Saudi narrative has been so I’d suggest that anyone with the means to should visit and find out for themselves. I admit i've never been but as a casual visitor/tourist what is there for us, cant drink, women cant wear what they want although they can now drive cars, probabaly lots of rules and regulations whch we in the west dont know about, not saying things haven't improved but surely work is still the only reason most people would want to go there. You’re right that work is probably the main reason foreigners go, but that work is usually going into turning it into a place that will put Dubai to shame, and I’m pretty sure Dubai is quite the tourism hotspot these days Yes you can’t drink and if that’s all you want it’s probably not for you - plenty of other cheap holidays you can take for that. For tourism it depends what you want.. there’s huge cities, historical sites thousands of years old, and nature that ranges from deserts, valleys and canyons to mountains, volcanoes, and thousands of miles of Red Sea coast. The country is huge and Google maps is very deceiving, Riyadh for example is nearly 100km x 100km in size. For women, general rules and clothing are far more relaxed now yet they still generally get the preferential treatment they always did (yeah you read that right). Priority queues, private areas if they want, etc. and given traditionally most women didn’t work, most places and activities are tailored / targeted at women and kids. Again, it’s funny how the narrative is told… Honestly the best thing to do is google and do some research, or watch some recent videos on YouTube, particularly vlogs from non-Saudi tourists.
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 4, 2023 19:25:59 GMT 1
I see they're even paying an individual to sportswash DATM now...
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 4, 2023 19:42:49 GMT 1
I admit i've never been but as a casual visitor/tourist what is there for us, cant drink, women cant wear what they want although they can now drive cars, probabaly lots of rules and regulations whch we in the west dont know about, not saying things haven't improved but surely work is still the only reason most people would want to go there. You’re right that work is probably the main reason foreigners go, but that work is usually going into turning it into a place that will put Dubai to shame, and I’m pretty sure Dubai is quite the tourism hotspot these days Yes you can’t drink and if that’s all you want it’s probably not for you - plenty of other cheap holidays you can take for that. For tourism it depends what you want.. there’s huge cities, historical sites thousands of years old, and nature that ranges from deserts, valleys and canyons to mountains, volcanoes, and thousands of miles of Red Sea coast. The country is huge and Google maps is very deceiving, Riyadh for example is nearly 100km x 100km in size. For women, general rules and clothing are far more relaxed now yet they still generally get the preferential treatment they always did (yeah you read that right). Priority queues, private areas if they want, etc. and given traditionally most women didn’t work, most places and activities are tailored / targeted at women and kids. Again, it’s funny how the narrative is told… Honestly the best thing to do is google and do some research, or watch some recent videos on YouTube, particularly vlogs from non-Saudi tourists. have you been in the mukaab yet? and if you have, whats it really like. Next gen or a load of old tosh
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Post by NumeroUno on Aug 4, 2023 20:06:20 GMT 1
You’re right that work is probably the main reason foreigners go, but that work is usually going into turning it into a place that will put Dubai to shame, and I’m pretty sure Dubai is quite the tourism hotspot these days Yes you can’t drink and if that’s all you want it’s probably not for you - plenty of other cheap holidays you can take for that. For tourism it depends what you want.. there’s huge cities, historical sites thousands of years old, and nature that ranges from deserts, valleys and canyons to mountains, volcanoes, and thousands of miles of Red Sea coast. The country is huge and Google maps is very deceiving, Riyadh for example is nearly 100km x 100km in size. For women, general rules and clothing are far more relaxed now yet they still generally get the preferential treatment they always did (yeah you read that right). Priority queues, private areas if they want, etc. and given traditionally most women didn’t work, most places and activities are tailored / targeted at women and kids. Again, it’s funny how the narrative is told… Honestly the best thing to do is google and do some research, or watch some recent videos on YouTube, particularly vlogs from non-Saudi tourists. have you been in the mukaab yet? and if you have, whats it really like. Next gen or a load of old tosh It was only announced a few months ago, hasn’t even started being built yet! That building is only the center piece of a huge development of mostly housing though.. so for that reason alone it will definitely happen as there’s huge demand for it. No idea how it’ll look when finished but I’m sure they’ll go all out to make it as grand as advertised.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 4, 2023 20:09:49 GMT 1
have you been in the mukaab yet? and if you have, whats it really like. Next gen or a load of old tosh It was only announced a few months ago, hasn’t even started being built yet! That building is only the center piece of a huge development of mostly housing though.. so for that reason alone it will definitely happen as there’s huge demand for it. No idea how it’ll look when finished but I’m sure they’ll go all out to make it as grand as advertised. ahhh, the way they are pushing it on US TV I thought it was up already.
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