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Post by stevvy on Aug 12, 2023 19:31:10 GMT 1
Waffling on about 3 defeats from 3 is pointless. We could've got a point today with better keeping or being better at taking our chances, we played pretty decent today, we could've won on Tuesday had we kept 11 men on the pitch rather than playing with 10 men for 80+ minutes while putting out what was absolutely a 2nd string team.
Had we lost all 3 games, full strength team with 11 men in all, played terribly, lost heavily, then you might have a point and I'd agree with you. That isn't the case though.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 12, 2023 19:31:41 GMT 1
How many actual chances does he miss though? It's not like we make many for him. Or anyone else. Don't you usually poopoo that argument when people say it about Jordan Rhodes? I don't think so, do I ? Rhodes has always needed sides to be set up to make him chances. We don't, so he doesn't play because he's no good at chasing round and closing down. As I put on another post, Haaland would struggle in this team over the last 12 months. If we could get a 20-25 striker then great, but we haven't had one since Rhodes mk1
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Post by Dan on Aug 12, 2023 19:33:59 GMT 1
So are you joking or aren’t you? Truthfully. In part yes. But don’t be fooled. Warnock is all but warnock and nobody else. Do you really think he read the posts on here and read mine out like he had found it ? Did he Bollox somebody did it for him. He can’t stand criticism. Fact is. 3 games. 3 defeats. Another awful start to a season. Hope you get the namecheck again in a press conference that you're BEGGING for x
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Post by trotsky on Aug 12, 2023 19:35:19 GMT 1
This really needs sorting out. I can get us in my car but only Bradford in the wife's car. It’s a disgrace, I complained to the BBC, case answered with some nonsense weasel words then closed down, they know it’s a massive issue but don’t give a fk. If it was the Leeds coverage it would have been sorted long ago. On the plus side if you’re looking for an excuse to save over a hundred quid on your TV license you’ve got it. It’s their duty to provide coverage for the region, they know they don’t cover large parts of Huddersfield with DAB but don’t care and pretend it’s not an issue. By the way if you can find the other DAB channel which requires you to access station info that isn’t possible on many devices you still won’t be able to listen to the town commentary due to the coverage issue. That’s the excuse they give when you complain but in reality the other channel (which nobody knows about or can find) doesn’t work in most areas anyhow, certainly in the Holme and colne valley.
See my post on page 11. Basically, I managed to trick mine into using the correct channel. Might not work if you're closer to the Ainley Top and Holme Moss transmitters than Emley Moor (the only one which transmits the Town coverage) but if you're ever up near Emley and re-tune your radio, it might pick up and store the correct one to use when you're back in Huddersfield.
Edit - as for the coverage issue. I used to have a caravan on the east coast and would sometimes go looking for the Town coverage by driving to some high ground could usually pick up the Town coverage from 70+ miles away. So hopefully if you manage to get your radio tuned to the correct frequency it should work in Huddersfield.
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Post by rockwall on Aug 12, 2023 19:38:50 GMT 1
I agree with your post, but I think we persisted with him for about 15mins too long today. Probably did but did Harratt touch the ball after he came on 🤷 And what's the point in having a 6'9" striker if you're not going to bring him on when your 1 down with 5 mins left and you're slinging balls into the box. Harratt set up a move for Jones down the left. Also held it up and knocking Faes and Perriera to the floor in the process.
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Post by drewden on Aug 12, 2023 19:40:22 GMT 1
15 minutes into the second half, Ward has to come off for me and replaced with Rhodes, could have changed the game, warnock seems to be too protective with Ward, it was there to see he wasn't going to score or change the pattern of play.
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Post by Leporid on Aug 12, 2023 19:41:29 GMT 1
Waffling on about 3 defeats from 3 is pointless. We could've got a point today with better keeping or being better at taking our chances, we played pretty decent today, we could've won on Tuesday had we kept 11 men on the pitch rather than playing with 10 men for 80+ minutes while putting out what was absolutely a 2nd string team. Had we lost all 3 games, full strength team with 11 men in all, played terribly, lost heavily, then you might have a point and I'd agree with you. That isn't the case though. Pointless indeed.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 12, 2023 19:41:34 GMT 1
Absolutely lots to like about that performance, every single player showed guts & commitment & it was a lot more enjoyable to watch than most of the games last season. I'd been a big critic of Edwards last week but he was much better defensively today. Hogg, Rudoni & Diarra ran their socks off & Sorba was clearly trying. We just lacked quality, which we are all aware of.
However, I was really disappointed by Neil's subs, or lack of. It was obvious after 60 mins that we needed fresh legs, as the gaps were opening up far too easily & the goal was inevitable. Really not sure why we are bothering with Hudlin, might as well let him go on loan to get some game time - he got 5 mins on Tuesday & nothing today. Unfortunately, Neil doesn't need a big squad, as he only trusts about 14 of our lot to play, it's pointless having 9 subs, we know who's coming on.
I'm sure Leicester can, & will, play a lot better than that but let's praise all our players for their effort today, we didn't make it easy for them, they gave their all, which makes it all the more bemusing that we made so few subs & left them so late. Some have said we'll beat plenty of teams playing like that, but will we? We didn't create a lot for our forwards, yet again, it was defenders getting on the end of the few & far between chances.
The big problem for us is the lack of quality, we are not guaranteed safety in this division by hard work alone, so if we can't get quality in, we can only expect another relegation fight, it's not bed wetting, it's reality. Diarra & Jones have the tools to be very good players but we couldn't/shouldn't be relying on them in the Championship. I know people are saying we can't afford the quality required but I would suggest we can't afford not to.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 12, 2023 19:43:15 GMT 1
Disappointing result, but we looked okay.
Stick a quality midfielder in that team, and maybe Yuta, and I think we're fine. A proper rouned striker too and we're laughing.
Diarra hopefully adds a bit of end product to his ability to drive us forward and we may be entertaining too!
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Post by wigster on Aug 12, 2023 19:44:05 GMT 1
Tbf mate, that's bollocks. He was tearing around closing the keeper and defenders down. That's why he plays because that's what Colin wants and he's the only one we have that can do that. Well I'll respectfully disagree with you on that. At no stage in the second half was Ward sprinting anywhere and certainly after 50 minutes he was pedestrian at best. Being a decent striker isn't just about pressing the ball, it isn't even just finishing the chances you get - it's also about getting to the ball first in the box - Ward just cannot do this. Naive though it may be I want a striker whose finishing is considerably better than Ward's - closing the opposition down is secondary to that surely .
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 12, 2023 19:44:09 GMT 1
Probably did but did Harratt touch the ball after he came on 🤷 And what's the point in having a 6'9" striker if you're not going to bring him on when your 1 down with 5 mins left and you're slinging balls into the box. Harratt set up a move for Jones down the left. Also held it up and knocking Faes and Perriera to the floor in the process. Never noticed him while he was on, personally.
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Post by RickDangerous on Aug 12, 2023 19:45:37 GMT 1
Calling him a bellend would be polite. You’re happy then ? Three games. Three defeats. No signings. Players sold. But hey you carry on clapping. attention seeking old idiot.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 12, 2023 19:46:44 GMT 1
I can only see positives after that performance. Perfect tactics by NW Sorba a constant threat, crossed the ball well and worked back tirelessly. Likewise Koroma - never thought I’d see him produce so much work. Soft goal but Nicholls kept us in it on other occasions. Apart from the Helik chance - that ball did not drop kindly to us once in the box.
And, as is now the norm, the crowd played its part - great atmosphere.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Aug 12, 2023 19:48:32 GMT 1
Oh it is. Ward is not in the side on merit. That's rubbish. They passed it between their back line and keeper really well and Wardy chased every ball, got close to blocking some as well. No lack of effort there.
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Post by alexdire on Aug 12, 2023 19:51:02 GMT 1
15 minutes into the second half, Ward has to come off for me and replaced with Rhodes, could have changed the game, warnock seems to be too protective with Ward, it was there to see he wasn't going to score or change the pattern of play. The year is 2023, it's not 2015. Stop deluding yourself about Rhodes ability.
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Post by rockwall on Aug 12, 2023 19:51:24 GMT 1
Oh it is. Ward is not in the side on merit. That's rubbish. They passed it between their back line and keeper really well and Wardy chased every ball, got close to blocking some as well. No lack of effort there. I thought their passing out from the back was awful. Diarra and Koroma did most the pressing. If Leicester faced a more clinical team today they lose by 2 or 3
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Post by alexdire on Aug 12, 2023 19:52:04 GMT 1
I can only see positives after that performance. Perfect tactics by NW Sorba a constant threat, crossed the ball well and worked back tirelessly. Likewise Koroma - never thought I’d see him produce so much work. Soft goal but Nicholls kept us in it on other occasions. Apart from the Helik chance - that ball did not drop kindly to us once in the box. And, as is now the norm, the crowd played its part - great atmosphere. You are right the ball just didn't drop for us.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Aug 12, 2023 19:52:27 GMT 1
And ours doesn’t cover a good part of the Huddersfield area. They know about it but won’t do owt about it. I think a lot of people have been having problems in the Huddersfield area for quite a while now. Never bothered me as I live in Dewsbury and both my car and DAB radio in my shed picked up the correct channel. But recently I replaced my portable DAB and when I tried it in my shed today I got Bradford bloody City! As others have mentioned, there are two frequencies (11b and 12d) and Town are on 12d. According to the RL website, out of the three transmitters (Holme Moss, Ainley Top and Emley Moor) only Emley transmits 12d. I checked to see if the channel list on my radio had two Radio Leeds entries but it hasn't. I'm guessing this is a limitation of the software on the radio, (maybe it hits 11b first then skips 12d?) as when I went into manual tune I could see the 12d frequency (and it had a stronger signal than 11b) but for some reason I couldn't select it! Then I moved the radio around until it lost the signal for the Bradford channel, re-scanned the channels and this time it picked up Town on 12d so I quickly stored it on a preset!
The only other thing I could think of was to take the radio up near Emley Moor and try re-scanning the channels, bit drastic but you never know. Pretty sure it is regional so where you are makes a difference. I am in the Holme Valley and don't seem to have a problem.
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Post by drewden on Aug 12, 2023 19:52:39 GMT 1
Absolutely lots to like about that performance, every single player showed guts & commitment & it was a lot more enjoyable to watch than most of the games last season. I'd been a big critic of Edwards last week but he was much better defensively today. Hogg, Rudoni & Diarra ran their socks off & Sorba was clearly trying. We just lacked quality, which we are all aware of. However, I was really disappointed by Neil's subs, or lack of. It was obvious after 60 mins that we needed fresh legs, as the gaps were opening up far too easily & the goal was inevitable. Really not sure why we are bothering with Hudlin, might as well let him go on loan to get some game time - he got 5 mins on Tuesday & nothing today. Unfortunately, Neil doesn't need a big squad, as he only trusts about 14 of our lot to play, it's pointless having 9 subs, we know who's coming on. I'm sure Leicester can, & will, play a lot better than that but let's praise all our players for their effort today, we didn't make it easy for them, they gave their all, which makes it all the more bemusing that we made so few subs & left them so late. Some have said we'll beat plenty of teams playing like that, but will we? We didn't create a lot for our forwards, yet again, it was defenders getting on the end of the few & far between chances. The big problem for us is the lack of quality, we are not guaranteed safety in this division by hard work alone, so if we can't get quality in, we can only expect another relegation fight, it's not bed wetting, it's reality. Diarra & Jones have the tools to be very good players but we couldn't/shouldn't be relying on them in the Championship. I know people are saying we can't afford the quality required but I would suggest we can't afford not to. Spot on about the 60 min mark with the subs, it's when we eased of the gas and their goal was coming.
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Post by drewden on Aug 12, 2023 19:54:14 GMT 1
15 minutes into the second half, Ward has to come off for me and replaced with Rhodes, could have changed the game, warnock seems to be too protective with Ward, it was there to see he wasn't going to score or change the pattern of play. The year is 2023, it's not 2015. Stop deluding yourself about Rhodes ability. Who would you have replaced Ward with?.
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 12, 2023 19:54:20 GMT 1
Truthfully. In part yes. But don’t be fooled. Warnock is all but warnock and nobody else. Do you really think he read the posts on here and read mine out like he had found it ? Did he Bollox somebody did it for him. He can’t stand criticism. Fact is. 3 games. 3 defeats. Another awful start to a season. Hope you get the namecheck again in a press conference that you're BEGGING for x Probably wanked himself into a stupor last time, you've got the nail on the head
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Post by bluesandtwos on Aug 12, 2023 19:54:37 GMT 1
That's rubbish. They passed it between their back line and keeper really well and Wardy chased every ball, got close to blocking some as well. No lack of effort there. I thought their passing out from the back was awful. Diarra and Koroma did most the pressing. If Leicester faced a more clinical team today they lose by 2 or 3 They were slick, steady but slick. Very patient moving it around then forward. We chased hard but rarely got close. I don't think their playing out was bad I think our closing down was good.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Aug 12, 2023 19:59:19 GMT 1
Absolutely lots to like about that performance, every single player showed guts & commitment & it was a lot more enjoyable to watch than most of the games last season. I'd been a big critic of Edwards last week but he was much better defensively today. Hogg, Rudoni & Diarra ran their socks off & Sorba was clearly trying. We just lacked quality, which we are all aware of. However, I was really disappointed by Neil's subs, or lack of. It was obvious after 60 mins that we needed fresh legs, as the gaps were opening up far too easily & the goal was inevitable. Really not sure why we are bothering with Hudlin, might as well let him go on loan to get some game time - he got 5 mins on Tuesday & nothing today. Unfortunately, Neil doesn't need a big squad, as he only trusts about 14 of our lot to play, it's pointless having 9 subs, we know who's coming on. I'm sure Leicester can, & will, play a lot better than that but let's praise all our players for their effort today, we didn't make it easy for them, they gave their all, which makes it all the more bemusing that we made so few subs & left them so late. Some have said we'll beat plenty of teams playing like that, but will we? We didn't create a lot for our forwards, yet again, it was defenders getting on the end of the few & far between chances. The big problem for us is the lack of quality, we are not guaranteed safety in this division by hard work alone, so if we can't get quality in, we can only expect another relegation fight, it's not bed wetting, it's reality. Diarra & Jones have the tools to be very good players but we couldn't/shouldn't be relying on them in the Championship. I know people are saying we can't afford the quality required but I would suggest we can't afford not to. Spot on about the 60 min mark with the subs, it's when we eased of the gas and their goal was coming. For me the goal came because we were pushing in their half and Koroma got overrun by defenders and lost the ball. They were down our end in a flash and scored. Not sure substitutions would have made a difference. Would have been nice to give Pat Jones another 15 minutes though, he is absolute lightning.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 12, 2023 19:59:40 GMT 1
The year is 2023, it's not 2015. Stop deluding yourself about Rhodes ability. Who would you have replaced Ward with?. Kian Harratt.
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Post by bleaklow on Aug 12, 2023 20:02:31 GMT 1
If ever there was a match when Town deserved some reward from it, this was it. I brought two relatives today (Leicester supporters) and they were impressed by our commitment. After the match, Vardy said they'd never been pressed like that before. The only disappointment I have, is that Jones wasn't brought on earlier and should have been accompanied by Hudlin. What does the lad have to do to get on the field with a decent amount of time left on the clock?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 12, 2023 20:06:38 GMT 1
Well I'll respectfully disagree with you on that. At no stage in the second half was Ward sprinting anywhere and certainly after 50 minutes he was pedestrian at best. Being a decent striker isn't just about pressing the ball, it isn't even just finishing the chances you get - it's also about getting to the ball first in the box - Ward just cannot do this. Naive though it may be I want a striker whose finishing is considerably better than Ward's - closing the opposition down is secondary to that surely . That sum's it up for me. Its no wonder we don't score many goals when the priority appears to be having the ability to run around a lot without effecting the game. In the absence of a quality striker (which we desperately need), both Harratt & Hudlin look far more likely to score than Ward and particularly in Harratt's case, he's no slouch when it comes to running and pressing as well.
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 12, 2023 20:09:16 GMT 1
We lost three goals to Championship newcomers Plymouth Argyle - not good...
We lost three goals to (now) bottom of The Championship Middlesbrough - Again not good...
Today we only lost ONE to Premier League quality (if not position) Leceister City... We ARE going in the RIGHT direction !!! 😊 ⬆️ ⬆️
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Post by Sparrow on Aug 12, 2023 20:15:33 GMT 1
Someone has clearly started drinking heavily again. Does he manage to stay awake in his seat or nod off during the match? Wonder if he’ll be putting a bet on Warnock getting the sack.
Good performance today, just lacking a bit of confidence and decisiveness in the final third
2 or 3 quality additions for the first 11 and we’re comfortably mid table i recon
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Post by football on Aug 12, 2023 20:21:08 GMT 1
How did young Jones get on today, I know he has pace but I've been quite critical of his first touch.
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Post by morleyterrier on Aug 12, 2023 20:22:56 GMT 1
I couldn’t give a flying fuck where we land up.
That Team today were worthy of wearing the famous blue and white stripes.
All I have ever asked and can ever ask is they put a shift in.
They did today.
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