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Post by bluebeard on Sept 25, 2023 22:32:51 GMT 1
Top lad will only get better.
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Post by harris on Sept 25, 2023 22:33:30 GMT 1
That booking he took was an utter disgrace. Maybe not quite enough for a penalty but he didn't "dive". He was fouled about a second earlier than there was contact on the second one but not a pen. Ref was a farce all night long and wanted an easy night by giving everything the home team. |
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Post by space hardware on Sept 25, 2023 22:35:56 GMT 1
That booking he took was an utter disgrace. Maybe not quite enough for a penalty but he didn't "dive". He was fouled about a second earlier than there was contact on the second one but not a pen. Ref was a farce all night long and wanted an easy night by giving everything the home team. He was terrible, easily one of the worst I've seen at this level, and there's some serious competition there 😁 |
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Post by harris on Sept 25, 2023 22:40:24 GMT 1
He was fouled about a second earlier than there was contact on the second one but not a pen. Ref was a farce all night long and wanted an easy night by giving everything the home team. He was terrible, easily one of the worst I've seen at this level, and there's some serious competition there 😁 The 60/40 bias to Cov just ground us down. How that lad didn’t get booked for hacking down Jackson, the Rudoni ‘dive’, the ball going 5 yards out and the lino ending up giving a soft FK for Helik’s card, the handball goal, giving them every 50/50 and wrong throw in calls all night. Bring back Jeremy Simpson! (I’m going to regret saying that) |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 25, 2023 22:44:39 GMT 1
Jack is my current favourite Town player - alongside Jonny Hogg
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 25, 2023 22:45:33 GMT 1
Just wish he could sort his shooting out from the edge of the box. Scuffs it so many times when in a great position
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Post by 28901 on Sept 25, 2023 22:50:29 GMT 1
Jack is my current favourite Town player - alongside Jonny Hogg I've always liked him. He should have been a good squad player last season but ended up with the responsibility of being our linchpin midfielder playing, I think, every game with no experience of championship level in a crucial position. |
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Post by drewden on Sept 25, 2023 22:56:52 GMT 1
I did a thread on him (Favorite Players) just a year ago, proving everything I thought he would be, still young but progressing by the minute, a real talent.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 25, 2023 23:20:52 GMT 1
He was terrible, easily one of the worst I've seen at this level, and there's some serious competition there 😁 The 60/40 bias to Cov just ground us down. How that lad didn’t get booked for hacking down Jackson, the Rudoni ‘dive’, the ball going 5 yards out and the lino ending up giving a soft FK for Helik’s card, the handball goal, giving them every 50/50 and wrong throw in calls all night. Bring back Jeremy Simpson! (I’m going to regret saying that) The foul on Wiles which caused him to mishit a pass straight to their man on halfway which he missed was another dreadful highlight of his terrible display. |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 25, 2023 23:40:10 GMT 1
Ive been....and still am a bit critical of the way he disappears during games and a lack of end product...... but massive credit tonight- second half was outstanding.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 23:49:15 GMT 1
He has really stepped this up this season. very good second half.
When he gets the ball I actually think something positive will happen! Imagine if Wiles could get 100% fit and get a goal/confidence under his belt too
Well done Jack!!! Really pleased to see hard work paying off
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 26, 2023 5:52:59 GMT 1
I would love to of seen Rudoni paired with O'Brien with hogg behind. In a world full of young footballers who do as little as possible on the pitch and can't wait to go home to their rich lifestyles you can just tell jack absolutely loves playing football and he's not scared to get on the ball. He was judged wrongly last year as we lost Lewis and people were quick to jump on his back but fair play to him he's one of our most consistent performers alongside Helik and he's the one that creates things and never stops running. I hope we keep him for a long time. You will once Wiles gets to full fitness |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2023 9:08:56 GMT 1
Great energy, great technique and great attitude.
Think hes shown all 3 from day 1 but maybe just lacked a bit of belief in himself under Fotheringham that Warnock gave him back end of last season.
Now he looks a real quality player at this level and Id imagine is our most valuable player in terms of transfer fee we'd likely receive if we were to sell.
A lot bemoan last years summer transfer business but Rudoni and Helik are our two best and most consistent outfield players IMO.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 26, 2023 10:56:29 GMT 1
I would love to of seen Rudoni paired with O'Brien with hogg behind. In a world full of young footballers who do as little as possible on the pitch and can't wait to go home to their rich lifestyles you can just tell jack absolutely loves playing football and he's not scared to get on the ball. He was judged wrongly last year as we lost Lewis and people were quick to jump on his back but fair play to him he's one of our most consistent performers alongside Helik and he's the one that creates things and never stops running. I hope we keep him for a long time. You will once Wiles gets to full fitness Has he been injured? He was playing regular 90's for Rotherham start of this season. Must admit I've been underwhelmed by Wiles so far...from what I saw and read of him, I'd been kind of hoping that we've finally replaced Lewis O'Brien, but he seems to have really struggled to put any kind of consistent authority on a game at all so far, in amongst lots of chasing around. He has contributed to some key moments, but he's not playing like the kind of player that the opposition really concern themselves about when he's on the ball. If he has some historic injury that he's still ramping up from, hopefully that explains it, as about once or twice a game he does drive a fantastic defensive splitting pass, the kind that results in a goal if they happen 4 or 5 times in a game...there SEEMS to be a lot to come from him. Also I don't suppose it helped that he's been stood there watching the ball sail over his head for most of the season, with the zero risk defensive approach we'd adapted to counter the early season mistakes. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 26, 2023 11:21:52 GMT 1
He was terrible, easily one of the worst I've seen at this level, and there's some serious competition there 😁 The 60/40 bias to Cov just ground us down. How that lad didn’t get booked for hacking down Jackson, the Rudoni ‘dive’, the ball going 5 yards out and the lino ending up giving a soft FK for Helik’s card, the handball goal, giving them every 50/50 and wrong throw in calls all night. Bring back Jeremy Simpson! (I’m going to regret saying that) From where I was sat it looked like Helik was booked for having his shirt pulled. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 26, 2023 11:24:14 GMT 1
The 60/40 bias to Cov just ground us down. How that lad didn’t get booked for hacking down Jackson, the Rudoni ‘dive’, the ball going 5 yards out and the lino ending up giving a soft FK for Helik’s card, the handball goal, giving them every 50/50 and wrong throw in calls all night. Bring back Jeremy Simpson! (I’m going to regret saying that) From where I was sat it looked like Helik was booked for having his shirt pulled. Helik was booked for kicking the ball away. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 26, 2023 11:31:18 GMT 1
You will once Wiles gets to full fitness Has he been injured? He was playing regular 90's for Rotherham start of this season. Must admit I've been underwhelmed by Wiles so far...from what I saw and read of him, I'd been kind of hoping that we've finally replaced Lewis O'Brien, but he seems to have really struggled to put any kind of consistent authority on a game at all so far, in amongst lots of chasing around. He has contributed to some key moments, but he's not playing like the kind of player that the opposition really concern themselves about when he's on the ball. If he has some historic injury that he's still ramping up from, hopefully that explains it, as about once or twice a game he does drive a fantastic defensive splitting pass, the kind that results in a goal if they happen 4 or 5 times in a game...there SEEMS to be a lot to come from him. Also I don't suppose it helped that he's been stood there watching the ball sail over his head for most of the season, with the zero risk defensive approach we'd adapted to counter the early season mistakes. Absolute quality player BW and no surprise since his introduction we’ve won 2 drawn 2 , I’ve been to all 4 games and already think extremely highly of this lad and it’s only going to get better. More or less guaranteed fans favourite for many in the near future. Hard working , burst of pace , loves a tackle good passer . Town have pinched a beauty in this lad and JR will flourish along side him. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 26, 2023 11:35:44 GMT 1
I think a lot of folk last season were, unfairly IMO, expecting a lot more from Jack as we'd paid (for us) good money for him.
As a young lad, making his way up the leagues, he could not have picked a worse club, as it turned out, due to the early managerial catastrophies we found ourselves in. Whereas, ideally, he would have made his way gradually getting more & more minutes, he became relied upon, in various positions, to be a key player. I believe he was bought for his potential & was exactly the kind of signing we should have been buying but not to be starting every game in various positions.
For a young lad, progressing up the football league ladder,probably away from home in the wild north for the first time, I think he acquitted himself really well last year & there were signs of what he was capable of. He's still learning the game but, again IMO, he's shown more improvement this season & I think we have a gem on our hands.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 26, 2023 11:36:40 GMT 1
He was terrible, easily one of the worst I've seen at this level, and there's some serious competition there 😁 The 60/40 bias to Cov just ground us down. How that lad didn’t get booked for hacking down Jackson, the Rudoni ‘dive’, the ball going 5 yards out and the lino ending up giving a soft FK for Helik’s card, the handball goal, giving them every 50/50 and wrong throw in calls all night. Bring back Jeremy Simpson! (I’m going to regret saying that) Am assuming you watched live...TV coverage had a really good angle they showed at half-time and it *definitely* wasn't hand-ball. Agree on most of the rest...Rudoni was fouled in the box even BEFORE he went down in the challenge that was either a penalty or just an innocent "two players coming together and he falls over - no big deal" incident, in **no way** was it a dive/simulation or anything even close to that. This teed up right on the Rudoni incident... |
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Post by harris on Sept 26, 2023 12:02:02 GMT 1
The 60/40 bias to Cov just ground us down. How that lad didn’t get booked for hacking down Jackson, the Rudoni ‘dive’, the ball going 5 yards out and the lino ending up giving a soft FK for Helik’s card, the handball goal, giving them every 50/50 and wrong throw in calls all night. Bring back Jeremy Simpson! (I’m going to regret saying that) Am assuming you watched live...TV coverage had a really good angle they showed at half-time and it *definitely* wasn't hand-ball. Agree on most of the rest...Rudoni was fouled in the box even BEFORE he went down in the challenge that was either a penalty or just an innocent "two players coming together and he falls over - no big deal" incident, in **no way** was it a dive/simulation or anything even close to that. This teed up right on the Rudoni incident... I honestly think it’s a handball from the best angle they showed on tv. It hits his thigh which would’ve taken it away from goal, then his arm which directed it towards goal. Granted it all happens in about .1 seconds. Very very tough to call tbf, but his reaction gave it away imo. |
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Sept 26, 2023 12:07:13 GMT 1
I’ll tell you now. If he were to get a long term injury now we would be absolutely screwed. He covers so much ground and drives us forward. Second half last night he was tremendous.
Also Koroma should have laid him first half but that’s another issue
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 26, 2023 14:28:07 GMT 1
Am assuming you watched live...TV coverage had a really good angle they showed at half-time and it *definitely* wasn't hand-ball. Agree on most of the rest...Rudoni was fouled in the box even BEFORE he went down in the challenge that was either a penalty or just an innocent "two players coming together and he falls over - no big deal" incident, in **no way** was it a dive/simulation or anything even close to that. This teed up right on the Rudoni incident... I honestly think it’s a handball from the best angle they showed on tv. It hits his thigh which would’ve taken it away from goal, then his arm which directed it towards goal. Granted it all happens in about .1 seconds. Very very tough to call tbf, but his reaction gave it away imo. Yep the reaction said it all, guilty as all f#%k, he was well onside, he knew it hit his hand. |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 26, 2023 16:46:55 GMT 1
😁😁😁😁
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Post by mosher on Sept 27, 2023 8:54:42 GMT 1
I’ll tell you now. If he were to get a long term injury now we would be absolutely screwed. He covers so much ground and drives us forward. Second half last night he was tremendous. Also Koroma should have laid him first half but that’s another issue Had to wait for privacy, not a good thing to do in front of a bunch of football fans  |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 27, 2023 9:25:00 GMT 1
Great energy, great technique and great attitude. Think hes shown all 3 from day 1 but maybe just lacked a bit of belief in himself under Fotheringham that Warnock gave him back end of last season. Now he looks a real quality player at this level and Id imagine is our most valuable player in terms of transfer fee we'd likely receive if we were to sell. A lot bemoan last years summer transfer business but Rudoni and Helik are our two best and most consistent outfield players IMO. I think that's the frustration - for me on balance we did good business in summer 2021/ winter 22 and overall good business in summer 2022 with a small budget Lees, Turton, Russell, Ruffels, Nicholls. Pearson, Eiting all on frees. Colwill and Sinnai on loan. Rudoni, Helik, Yuta, Kasumu good business We spotted Thomas as well (Hudlin is promising) It's the ones where if we'd had a little more ambition or better stewardship of the money in the PL years. Imagine if we had Zian Fleming and Adebayo up top (both were very close according to runours) - we'd really be a force in this league |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 27, 2023 9:37:43 GMT 1
Great energy, great technique and great attitude. Think hes shown all 3 from day 1 but maybe just lacked a bit of belief in himself under Fotheringham that Warnock gave him back end of last season. Now he looks a real quality player at this level and Id imagine is our most valuable player in terms of transfer fee we'd likely receive if we were to sell. A lot bemoan last years summer transfer business but Rudoni and Helik are our two best and most consistent outfield players IMO. I think that's the frustration - for me on balance we did good business in summer 2021/ winter 22 and overall good business in summer 2022 with a small budget Lees, Turton, Russell, Ruffels, Nicholls. Pearson, Eiting all on frees. Colwill and Sinnai on loan. Rudoni, Helik, Yuta, Kasumu good business We spotted Thomas as well (Hudlin is promising) It's the ones where if we'd had a little more ambition or better stewardship of the money in the PL years. Imagine if we had Zian Fleming and Adebayo up top (both were very close according to runours) - we'd really be a force in this league Absolutely. I think we were caught between 2 mindsets...we didnt have the money or the pull to bring in proven PL talent.. and we didnt have the security in our league position to risk trying proven lower division players in the hope they step up...so we sort of went for young unproven top flight talent instead, from abroad mainly, with the idea that because they were doing well in the top flights in France or Holland, that they'd do the same in England. Could have been a gamble that worked if we'd chosen better, but disastrous as it was. In terms of quality and value for money, our signings whilst in the championship have been largely very impressive on the whole IMO. |
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 27, 2023 17:26:45 GMT 1
I honestly think it’s a handball from the best angle they showed on tv. It hits his thigh which would’ve taken it away from goal, then his arm which directed it towards goal. Granted it all happens in about .1 seconds. Very very tough to call tbf, but his reaction gave it away imo. Yep the reaction said it all, guilty as all f#%k, he was well onside, he knew it hit his hand. He was onside, but only by a split second, definitely not well onside. He was checking for offside IMO. You wouldn't check to an official behind you for handball. It'd be more to the ref in front or to the side of you. We are looking for reasons for this to be handball. From the Extended Highlights,I am still none the wiser from multiple angles, so with me being a wet liberal, I am comfortable with giving the ref the benefit of the doubt on this decision. |
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Post by crux on Sept 27, 2023 18:49:54 GMT 1
Yep the reaction said it all, guilty as all f#%k, he was well onside, he knew it hit his hand. He was onside, but only by a split second, definitely not well onside. He was checking for offside IMO. You wouldn't check to an official behind you for handball. It'd be more to the ref in front or to the side of you. We are looking for reasons for this to be handball. From the Extended Highlights,I am still none the wiser from multiple angles, so with me being a wet liberal, I am comfortable with giving the ref the benefit of the doubt on this decision. I agree, sort of. It probably was handball (or it probably hit his hand and maybe classed as handball, but god knows what the actual law is now 🤣), but there's almost no way anyone could give it as the the lino was on the wrong side. Even if VAR was available, they'd still be looking at replays now trying to decide - assuming they weren't biased! |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 27, 2023 22:36:11 GMT 1
Thought he was our best player today. Wants to be involved in everything, never stops running, has a part in everything we create. Top player. I love Jack and stuck up for him when others were calling him 12 months ago, but for me, Helik was our best player on Monday by a mile. One of only a few to emerge with much credit 1st half. JR offered little in the first half as far as I could see. 2nd half he was excellent though |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 27, 2023 22:49:07 GMT 1
Thought he was our best player today. Wants to be involved in everything, never stops running, has a part in everything we create. Top player. I love Jack and stuck up for him when others were calling him 12 months ago, but for me, Helik was our best player on Monday by a mile. One of only a few to emerge with much credit 1st half. JR offered little in the first half as far as I could see. 2nd half he was excellent though You could be right, it's a game of perceptions. JR is easy to spot, tall with his tussly hair. Second half he seemed to have the ball all the time. MH game is a lot of tackles, and interceptions. I guess they both played a huge part in that late late equaliser. UTT |
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