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Post by htfcfcfc on Feb 24, 2024 19:53:13 GMT 1
5? He was brilliant first half. Ran the game. Even second half he was breaking play up and getting forward well. ridiculous Think he's very good and like his opinions. But... he's been way off in the last two weeks. Is Chicken a bit to eager to get his ratings out within 27 seconds of the game ending that he doesn’t give himself a minute to think. Rudoni was a little frustrating today but a 5 is harsh
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Post by ldotm on Feb 24, 2024 20:47:07 GMT 1
Easy to forget he’s still only 22, he shows a maturity for that age. Never shies away and works his nuts off, and clearly has a lot of ability.
His turn in the first half way brilliant and then got brought down on the edge of the box.
He’ll have a really good career.
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Post by utttrooper on Feb 24, 2024 20:56:57 GMT 1
Easy to forget he’s still only 22, he shows a maturity for that age. Never shies away and works his nuts off, and clearly has a lot of ability. His turn in the first half way brilliant and then got brought down on the edge of the box. He’ll have a really good career. If he's still here in a couple of years he'll be deadly when he has more experience and we will reap the benefits
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 25, 2024 10:22:28 GMT 1
Think he's very good and like his opinions. But... he's been way off in the last two weeks. Agree. We need to support him as we did Ward and Edwards when things weren't going well for them. The wheel always turns Who, Chicken ?
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Post by frankslegs on Feb 25, 2024 16:21:17 GMT 1
I won’t bother reading Chicken again. Giving Rudoni 5 ,same as Hogg v Hull simply shows him up. V poor analysis across the board.
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 8, 2024 17:30:49 GMT 1
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Post by workshyfop on Mar 8, 2024 18:10:17 GMT 1
I love Rudoni. Great attitude. For a young lad moving up north to a constantly struggling side, he’s never hidden. Even when things are going badly for the team and/or he’s not having the best of games, he’s always wanting the ball, trying to drive forward and make something happen.
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Mar 11, 2024 7:38:49 GMT 1
Really frustrated by him. Looks good on the ball but under close scrutiny offers very little to the team. Too prone to giving the ball in dangerous situations when play is stretched, weak in the tackle and absolutely abject as a finisher. With the positions he gets into he really should be scoring up to 10 goals a season - which are desperately needed from midfield when are strikers are so ineffectual.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 11, 2024 11:35:23 GMT 1
Think pretty much everything we do well has him at the heart of it. Consistently one of our best players and comfortably the best midfielder we have IMO.
hes not the finished article but if we were looking to sell I think most championship clubs would want him.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 11, 2024 11:50:41 GMT 1
Think pretty much everything we do well has him at the heart of it. Consistently one of our best players and comfortably the best midfielder we have IMO. hes not the finished article but if we were looking to sell I think most championship clubs would want him. I agree, and I think having a decent striker to relieve some of the pressure of him scoring every week would also help. We don't have a natural goalscorer at the club, Koroma and Burgzorg are probably the closest thing. It is frustrating with Rudoni but we shouldn't have been relying on a young lad bought from League Two to score regularly for the last two years.
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Post by benhomly on Mar 11, 2024 12:34:23 GMT 1
Think pretty much everything we do well has him at the heart of it. Consistently one of our best players and comfortably the best midfielder we have IMO. hes not the finished article but if we were looking to sell I think most championship clubs would want him. I agree, and I think having a decent striker to relieve some of the pressure of him scoring every week would also help. We don't have a natural goalscorer at the club, Koroma and Burgzorg are probably the closest thing. It is frustrating with Rudoni but we shouldn't have been relying on a young lad bought from League Two to score regularly for the last two years. I don't think there's pressure on him to score every week, the goals are shared out through the whole team like they have been for years now. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to expect him to convert some of the simple chances that he's presented with. He's missed some real howlers this season and I can't think of too many others who have missed the same number, not even close.
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Post by efesodje23 on Mar 11, 2024 12:37:11 GMT 1
Garbage yesterday. As were most. But he's the one person you expect to be able to make a 5,10,20 yard pass successfully.
Everyone coming short also, no one making runs as an out/through ball down the wings.
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 11, 2024 12:48:42 GMT 1
He has a lot of potential and is amongst our better players certainly, but he couldn't finish a happy meal. He also doesn't create much, but that said the movement in our side is poor.
I don't think his future lies at number 10 (or wide) though. With his height, workrate, the fact he's left footed, can do a bit of everything but nothing exceptionally, I think he's much better deployed as a box to box CM.
I would ideally pair him with a defensive solid ball player in midfield, someone who can keep the ball and set the tempo, with a proper number 10 in front of them.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Mar 11, 2024 12:52:52 GMT 1
He has a lot of potential and is amongst our better players certainly, but he couldn't finish a happy meal. He also doesn't create much, but that said the movement in our side is poor. I don't think his future lies at number 10 (or wide) though. With his height, workrate, the fact he's left footed, can do a bit of everything but nothing exceptionally, I think he's much better deployed as a box to box CM. I would ideally pair him with a defensive solid ball player in midfield, someone who can keep the ball and set the tempo, with a proper number 10 in front of them. Think he’s best finding a bit of space then a 20 yard pass to a winger or number 10 to run at the defence. Doesn’t have the pace or touch to be receiving that pass himself with a defender bearing down on him. He scored quite a few at Wimbledon so I can only put it down to mentality. I’d expect him to be putting extra time in after training to work on heading and finishing because he’s left us a few points out there with his misses this season.
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Mar 11, 2024 13:31:17 GMT 1
League 1 standard at best. Temperament every bit as talent in the championship & he clearly lacks the composure to finish fairly easy chances. Not asking him to score worldies just score the tap ins he often gets presented with.
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Post by Moooooy on Mar 11, 2024 16:29:58 GMT 1
He has a lot of potential and is amongst our better players certainly, but he couldn't finish a happy meal. He also doesn't create much, but that said the movement in our side is poor. I don't think his future lies at number 10 (or wide) though. With his height, workrate, the fact he's left footed, can do a bit of everything but nothing exceptionally, I think he's much better deployed as a box to box CM. I would ideally pair him with a defensive solid ball player in midfield, someone who can keep the ball and set the tempo, with a proper number 10 in front of them. Yeah I agree box to box midfielder would best suit his attributes. His work off the ball is generally very good, but on the ball he needs to improve if he wants to start regularly in a good Championship team. I’d like us to sign someone who can challenge him next season, I don’t think he’s good enough week in week out to play 90 minutes every game as he is doing now.
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Post by sonny on Mar 11, 2024 16:40:22 GMT 1
He's one of the reasons we create so little in the final third. There are plenty of others, mind.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 11, 2024 16:47:08 GMT 1
League 1 standard at best. Temperament every bit as talent in the championship & he clearly lacks the composure to finish fairly easy chances. Not asking him to score worldies just score the tap ins he often gets presented with. Thats rubbish. hes probably our most saleable asset and if we were to sell we'd make a huge profit on him with loads of clubs in this division competing for him. He already looks a very good championship player and will only improve over the next 2 or 3 years. At the moment he has similar failings in his game as Obrien did..finishing..end product,, but his workrate and energy is on a par with LOB and technically id say hes better. he also never hides and he gets in the positions to miss the chances at least...and still younger than LOB was when we cashed in for £8m.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Mar 11, 2024 16:50:05 GMT 1
This applies to most players but one of his most recognisable downfalls is how one footed he is. Will always be something I hate in football
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 11, 2024 17:00:58 GMT 1
Think pretty much everything we do well has him at the heart of it. Consistently one of our best players and comfortably the best midfielder we have IMO. hes not the finished article but if we were looking to sell I think most championship clubs would want him. He wouldn't be at Town if he was the finished article
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Post by Amigo on Mar 11, 2024 17:37:01 GMT 1
One of the last players I'd be critical of at the moment.
Yes he misplaces passes and misses chances but at least he's not hiding. He's trying to make things happen, he's still getting forward to try make things happen right to the end even at 4-1 down and he's still getting stuck in. I'd be far more worried if he never missed a pass because he's always going sideways or backwards or never missed a chance because he never got forward.
At some point it's all going to come together and unless we keep up with him he'll be gone.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Mar 11, 2024 17:58:44 GMT 1
League 1 standard at best. Temperament every bit as talent in the championship & he clearly lacks the composure to finish fairly easy chances. Not asking him to score worldies just score the tap ins he often gets presented with. Thats rubbish. hes probably our most saleable asset and if we were to sell we'd make a huge profit on him with loads of clubs in this division competing for him. He already looks a very good championship player and will only improve over the next 2 or 3 years. At the moment he has similar failings in his game as Obrien did..finishing..end product,, but his workrate and energy is on a par with LOB and technically id say hes better. he also never hides and he gets in the positions to miss the chances at least...and still younger than LOB was when we cashed in for £8m. To even remotely compare Rudoni to LOB is an outrageous distortion. Obrien was a top 3 championship player that season. Rudoni isn’t top 20. He is levels above Rudoni
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Mar 11, 2024 18:08:26 GMT 1
League 1 standard at best. Temperament every bit as talent in the championship & he clearly lacks the composure to finish fairly easy chances. Not asking him to score worldies just score the tap ins he often gets presented with. Thats rubbish. hes probably our most saleable asset and if we were to sell we'd make a huge profit on him with loads of clubs in this division competing for him. He already looks a very good championship player and will only improve over the next 2 or 3 years. At the moment he has similar failings in his game as Obrien did..finishing..end product,, but his workrate and energy is on a par with LOB and technically id say hes better. he also never hides and he gets in the positions to miss the chances at least...and still younger than LOB was when we cashed in for £8m. sorry Captain but I completely disagree with you.
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 11, 2024 18:13:19 GMT 1
Rudoni may well be our best player, but we are a championship club that last season spent most of it in the relegation zone and only escaped at the last minute. This season we've been in the bottom 4 more or less all season and we've just dropped into the relegation zone. So saying he is our best player / most saleable asset etc is faint praise and a pretty low bar.
Ben Wiles was Rotherham's best player and he is shockingly bad!
For me at the moment, Rudoni is a top end League 1 / bottom end Championship player. I don't think that many teams in the top half of the championship would be interested in him. If they would be, it would be as a squad player rather then a starter.
Still only 22 though and loads of time to develop and improve. A couple of years from now he could be a very very good Championship standard player
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Post by mids on Mar 11, 2024 18:28:35 GMT 1
Player of the season for me. He is far from perfect, but he is the heartbeat of the team and always shows for the ball. Once surrounded by better players I think he will continue to improve.
Second name on the teamsheet for me, after Nicholls.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Mar 11, 2024 19:02:45 GMT 1
Player of the season for me. He is far from perfect, but he is the heartbeat of the team and always shows for the ball. Once surrounded by better players I think he will continue to improve. Second name on the teamsheet for me, after Nicholls. this seems crazy to me . What about Helik and Sorba, also Nicholls has been pretty bad this season in my opinion.
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Mar 11, 2024 19:22:36 GMT 1
Player of the season for me. He is far from perfect, but he is the heartbeat of the team and always shows for the ball. Once surrounded by better players I think he will continue to improve. Second name on the teamsheet for me, after Nicholls. this seems crazy to me . What about Helik and Sorba, also Nicholls has been pretty bad this season in my opinion. 100% agree. Rudoni is along way short of the performance levels and outcomes of Helik and Sorba.
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 11, 2024 19:39:02 GMT 1
Player of the season for me. He is far from perfect, but he is the heartbeat of the team and always shows for the ball. Once surrounded by better players I think he will continue to improve. Second name on the teamsheet for me, after Nicholls. this seems crazy to me . What about Helik and Sorba, also Nicholls has been pretty bad this season in my opinion. Not great by his standards but still very capable
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Post by mids on Mar 11, 2024 20:12:43 GMT 1
Player of the season for me. He is far from perfect, but he is the heartbeat of the team and always shows for the ball. Once surrounded by better players I think he will continue to improve. Second name on the teamsheet for me, after Nicholls. this seems crazy to me . What about Helik and Sorba, also Nicholls has been pretty bad this season in my opinion. Opinions eh...Helik has done well...Sorba very well...but I believe Rudoni to have vastly improved and I like him. Nicholls has not been as dominant this season. Still a quality keeper and leader though.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 11, 2024 21:17:19 GMT 1
Thats rubbish. hes probably our most saleable asset and if we were to sell we'd make a huge profit on him with loads of clubs in this division competing for him. He already looks a very good championship player and will only improve over the next 2 or 3 years. At the moment he has similar failings in his game as Obrien did..finishing..end product,, but his workrate and energy is on a par with LOB and technically id say hes better. he also never hides and he gets in the positions to miss the chances at least...and still younger than LOB was when we cashed in for £8m. To even remotely compare Rudoni to LOB is an outrageous distortion. Obrien was a top 3 championship player that season. Rudoni isn’t top 20. He is levels above Rudoni Absolute bollocks, he wasn't even in the top 3 Town players, that season.
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