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Post by leroy212 on Jun 2, 2024 15:49:41 GMT 1
Probably because it’s similar to the prem relegation players who clearly couldn’t be arsed and were no good. We were so stuck on wanting far too much for them that we couldn’t get rid. Karlan grant clearly wanted to go and we took so long waiting for the right offer that we ended taking a stupid payment plan loan thing with West Brom. A payment plan that saved tax, a payment plan that added up to £16million for a player whose just spent last season on loan at Cardiff and still produced next to nothing, looks like a good deal to me. Like you said fact they paid us 2 million last season and he dint even play for west Bromwich |
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Post by Orinoco on Jun 2, 2024 17:53:45 GMT 1
He's worth more than that, his hairdressers bill will come to more than that💅 His value will be lower with him being a Welsh international. He saw Bales cock and then started acting like one☺ |
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Post by Richard1986 on Jun 15, 2024 18:42:39 GMT 1
Being realistic Sorba’s set pieces and Helik on the end of them was about our only attacking threat last season.
Maybe the manager can get a tune out of Sorba? Perhaps as a central attacking midfielder behind a front two. Warnock and Jepo were able to get something out of him….
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Post by typical on Jun 15, 2024 18:57:00 GMT 1
Last I heard he was talking to WBA.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 15, 2024 19:18:34 GMT 1
Being realistic Sorba’s set pieces and Helik on the end of them was about our only attacking threat last season. Maybe the manager can get a tune out of Sorba? Perhaps as a central attacking midfielder behind a front two. Warnock and Jepo were able to get something out of him…. It was Worthington that got a tune out of him. I want him gone and I'm sure he wants out aswell. |
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Post by 28901 on Jun 15, 2024 19:44:40 GMT 1
Sorba eats your babies
The blokes a bit of a dick but the amount of blame piled on him when he was one of our best players last season is ridiculous.
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Post by utttrooper on Jun 15, 2024 19:52:02 GMT 1
Sorba eats your babies The blokes a bit of a dick but the amount of blame piled on him when he was one of our best players last season is ridiculous. He also wouldn't get half the amount of stick if it weren't for Breitenshiter's comments |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 20:00:39 GMT 1
Being realistic Sorba’s set pieces and Helik on the end of them was about our only attacking threat last season. Maybe the manager can get a tune out of Sorba? Perhaps as a central attacking midfielder behind a front two. Warnock and Jepo were able to get something out of him…. Yeah lets play him in a central position when the only thing he is good at is crossing  |
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Post by 28901 on Jun 15, 2024 22:14:19 GMT 1
Sorba eats your babies The blokes a bit of a dick but the amount of blame piled on him when he was one of our best players last season is ridiculous. He also wouldn't get half the amount of stick if it weren't for Breitenshiter's comments A disastrous appointment who blamed everyone else in desperation to save his cv. He thought he was above level 3? He fookin took us there.Tosser. |
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Post by specialun on Jun 16, 2024 7:54:02 GMT 1
Sorba eats your babies The blokes a bit of a dick but the amount of blame piled on him when he was one of our best players last season is ridiculous. Agree overall - he still created a lot of chances and he’ll go onto be a good championship player again I don’t doubt that. He’s hardly the main reason quality wise we were relegated is he However his attitude at times stank particularly towards end of season - he was playing for himself / camera moments. That deserves criticism. Example v Swansea was 1. Didn’t press in a front 4 unit instructed 2. 2nd goal was a disgrace for any professional footballer - Not his awful set piece he put 10 yards away from target straight to the keeper but watching the keeper kick the ball over his head the left back run passed him & couldn’t be arsed to attempt to get back. Matty Pearson started in their box and ran passed him. Tom Lees got back and screwed up his knee. Thomas couldn’t be bothered |
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Post by detox on Jun 16, 2024 8:36:40 GMT 1
Sorbas' only attribute is his attacking wing play and his crosses. Even then a lot of crosses, corners, free kicks go astray.
He doesn't tackle, can't head a ball and his back tracking to defend is weak. He doesn't score goals either. He's not a team player.
So, it's what we used to call a one trick pony , but he's a luxury Town could never really afford because he was always unreliable and unpredictable.
He might do better in a better team where better players can cover for his weaknesses, maybe.
It's not so much he can't do it as he just won't do it.
A real shame for us, and him.
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Jun 16, 2024 10:07:28 GMT 1
Sorba Thomas is no where near as good as Pilkington or Roberts were for us under Lee Clark.
Both contributed far more to the team than Sorba. In terms of goals and overall play.
I don't think we have had any stand out wingers since Pilkington to be honest. VLP had his moments, Kacha and Koroma aren't proper wingers, and the less said about the speedy twins the better.
Pat Jones has potential but will never stay fit.
Get what we can for Sorba and invest in the best two wingers we can get from Leagues one, two or the top end of the conference.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jun 16, 2024 10:12:45 GMT 1
Sorba Thomas is no where near as good as Pilkington or Roberts were for us under Lee Clark. Both contributed far more to the team than Sorba. In terms of goals and overall play. I don't think we have had any stand out wingers since Pilkington to be honest. VLP had his moments, Kacha and Koroma aren't proper wingers, and the less said about the speedy twins the better. Pat Jones has potential but will never stay fit. Get what we can for Sorba and invest in the best two wingers we can get from Leagues one, two or the top end of the conference. What a dream it would be to be lining up with something equivalent to….. Rhodes, Novak, Roberts and Pilks next season. |
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Jun 16, 2024 10:40:13 GMT 1
Sorba Thomas is no where near as good as Pilkington or Roberts were for us under Lee Clark. Both contributed far more to the team than Sorba. In terms of goals and overall play. I don't think we have had any stand out wingers since Pilkington to be honest. VLP had his moments, Kacha and Koroma aren't proper wingers, and the less said about the speedy twins the better. Pat Jones has potential but will never stay fit. Get what we can for Sorba and invest in the best two wingers we can get from Leagues one, two or the top end of the conference. What a dream it would be to be lining up with something equivalent to….. Rhodes, Novak, Roberts and Pilks next season. If we can get May, and keep Healey and Radulovic, it could be the best striking line up we have had since then. Harratt could be a good back up fourth striker, but seems to have a lot of issues. If Keiran Phillips can stay fit he could be useful. We just need some decent wingers/wingbacks to get the ball into the box to them. Sorba and Koroma can go for me. Leaves us with Jones as our only winger. So an area we really need to prioritise. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Jun 16, 2024 11:27:15 GMT 1
Duff has met with Sorba and the two have had positive talks. Championship interest in him but he’ll only go for the right price. He’s one of the clubs most expensive assets.
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Post by Wingman on Jun 16, 2024 11:38:21 GMT 1
I hope the club aren’t being too stubborn here, we need to be pragmatic and realise the likes of Sulky Sorba have a value but we should be looking to refresh and restart. The more we let go from last year the better, whilst we can still get a value for them.
If we don’t bounce back their value drops further and we’re stuck with the toxic characters for longer, and let’s face it, they won’t sign new deals so will walk on their own once their contracts are up.
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Post by uptownfunk on Jun 16, 2024 11:55:00 GMT 1
I hope the club aren’t being too stubborn here, we need to be pragmatic and realise the likes of Sulky Sorba have a value but we should be looking to refresh and restart. The more we let go from last year the better, whilst we can still get a value for them. If we don’t bounce back their value drops further and we’re stuck with the toxic characters for longer, and let’s face it, they won’t sign new deals so will walk on their own once their contracts are up. You’re massively overplaying this bad attitude thing. Everyone is. You make it like they’ve all got an incurable disease, not that anyone really knows who the sufferers even are. They just assume. Players are professional. They want to further their careers either at Town or elsewhere. The team was extremely poorly led and managed last season. We’ve never heard the players side of things. Just remember that. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Jun 16, 2024 11:56:53 GMT 1
I hope the club aren’t being too stubborn here, we need to be pragmatic and realise the likes of Sulky Sorba have a value but we should be looking to refresh and restart. The more we let go from last year the better, whilst we can still get a value for them. If we don’t bounce back their value drops further and we’re stuck with the toxic characters for longer, and let’s face it, they won’t sign new deals so will walk on their own once their contracts are up. The club is a business. Emotions or stubbornness don’t come into it. That’s just for fans etc. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jun 16, 2024 12:07:49 GMT 1
Duff has met with Sorba and the two have had positive talks. Championship interest in him but he’ll only go for the right price. He’s one of the clubs most expensive assets. Positive talks in terms of building bridges or smoothing the path to his exit? I’d imagine we’ll be playing a long game in this transfer window to try and get the best price? Surely there’ll be at least one club that will want him because of the chances he creates. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jun 16, 2024 12:21:41 GMT 1
Duff has met with Sorba and the two have had positive talks. Championship interest in him but he’ll only go for the right price. He’s one of the clubs most expensive assets. This was always the concern that Duff would come in and give him a fresh start. We know he is toxic and should leave. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jun 16, 2024 12:22:32 GMT 1
Duff has met with Sorba and the two have had positive talks. Championship interest in him but he’ll only go for the right price. He’s one of the clubs most expensive assets. Positive talks in terms of building bridges or smoothing the path to his exit? I’d imagine we’ll be playing a long game in this transfer window to try and get the best price? Surely there’ll be at least one club that will want him because of the chances he creates. . . . and if we can find two teams that want him, his attitude, perceived or actual, will not reduce his fee by one penny piece. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jun 16, 2024 12:36:31 GMT 1
I hope the club aren’t being too stubborn here, we need to be pragmatic and realise the likes of Sulky Sorba have a value but we should be looking to refresh and restart. The more we let go from last year the better, whilst we can still get a value for them. If we don’t bounce back their value drops further and we’re stuck with the toxic characters for longer, and let’s face it, they won’t sign new deals so will walk on their own once their contracts are up. You’re massively overplaying this bad attitude thing. Everyone is. You make it like they’ve all got an incurable disease, not that anyone really knows who the sufferers even are. They just assume. Players are professional. They want to further their careers either at Town or elsewhere. The team was extremely poorly led and managed last season. We’ve never heard the players side of things. Just remember that. Is it being overplayed? One of our experienced players pinned him up against a wall allegedly The Blackburn loan didn’t exactly prove him to being a Championship stand out player Warnock commented that he’d start an argument in an empty room or something like that. Even Fotheringham turfed him out. He’s not making the Wales squad and to not make their bench at least is a bit odd don’t you think when there’s League 1 players in there. Theres no smoke without fire and think what you like about Bretienreiter, but clearly he wasn’t impressed either. |
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Post by jakeg on Jun 16, 2024 12:37:09 GMT 1
Duff has met with Sorba and the two have had positive talks. Championship interest in him but he’ll only go for the right price. He’s one of the clubs most expensive assets. This was always the concern that Duff would come in and give him a fresh start. We know he is toxic and should leave. Like some others have said on here I do real struggle with that last sentence. Do we KNOW he is toxic? Or is that simply your general opinion ....which of course is perfectly fine on a forum. There will be poor characters in any workplace and some of those are irredeemable. I have absolutely no evidence to base an opinion of toxic on sorba. It sounds like he might have had some run ins with team mates and does seem to be one of those characters that needs to feel loved. I suspect it's better for all parties for him to move on IF we get the right deal and reinvest. I've seen so many players for which there seems a slightly irrational hatred or inability to give them an even break. Cowling was the first I remember. |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 16, 2024 12:38:59 GMT 1
I hope the club aren’t being too stubborn here, we need to be pragmatic and realise the likes of Sulky Sorba have a value but we should be looking to refresh and restart. The more we let go from last year the better, whilst we can still get a value for them. If we don’t bounce back their value drops further and we’re stuck with the toxic characters for longer, and let’s face it, they won’t sign new deals so will walk on their own once their contracts are up. You’re massively overplaying this bad attitude thing. Everyone is. You make it like they’ve all got an incurable disease, not that anyone really knows who the sufferers even are. They just assume. Players are professional. They want to further their careers either at Town or elsewhere. The team was extremely poorly led and managed last season. We’ve never heard the players side of things. Just remember that. I saw his performances in the last two years. It’s time for him to go; it would benefit the club and him. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jun 16, 2024 12:47:57 GMT 1
You’re massively overplaying this bad attitude thing. Everyone is. You make it like they’ve all got an incurable disease, not that anyone really knows who the sufferers even are. They just assume. Players are professional. They want to further their careers either at Town or elsewhere. The team was extremely poorly led and managed last season. We’ve never heard the players side of things. Just remember that. I saw his performances in the last two years. It’s time for him to go; it would benefit the club and him. Up to the last month or so he was one of our best players last season. The only player that gave us a threat going forward. |
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Post by crux on Jun 16, 2024 12:47:58 GMT 1
Duff has met with Sorba and the two have had positive talks. Championship interest in him but he’ll only go for the right price. He’s one of the clubs most expensive assets. I could have quoted any number of the replies on his 'attitude' and probably agreed with some of it, at least since his Wales call up. However, from a football point of view, if Duff is going to play 3-5-2 then Sorba doesn't fit into that system at all and needs to be moved on. He's not a striker, and will never be able to play wing back other than in an emergency due to him being utterly inept at defending. PS: I voted for him as player of the season, so this isn't coming from an 'anti Sorba' point of view. |
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Post by leroy212 on Jun 16, 2024 12:54:11 GMT 1
Last I heard he was talking to WBA. Pretty sure they won't be able to afford him. They on course to have a big loss this season |
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Post by joek on Jun 16, 2024 13:03:04 GMT 1
I saw his performances in the last two years. It’s time for him to go; it would benefit the club and him. Up to the last month or so he was one of our best players last season. The only player that gave us a threat going forward. Agreed. |
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Post by royrace on Jun 16, 2024 13:14:33 GMT 1
Duff has met with Sorba and the two have had positive talks. Championship interest in him but he’ll only go for the right price. He’s one of the clubs most expensive assets. I could have quoted any number of the replies on his 'attitude' and probably agreed with some of it, at least since his Wales call up. However, from a football point of view, if Duff is going to play 3-5-2 then Sorba doesn't fit into that system at all and needs to be moved on. He's not a striker, and will never be able to play wing back other than in an emergency due to him being utterly inept at defending. PS: I voted for him as player of the season, so this isn't coming from an 'anti Sorba' point of view. I thought he was ok as wingback, as well as his set pieces and crossing he's also got a superb engine and is an athlete. If he can be managed correctly he could be an asset. Depends just how much of a bell he is I guess and none of us can be sure on that point. Hoping the dynamic of the team changes completely and we end up with more grown up senior pros rather than the likes of burgzorg. That might help him or it may be we needs to get rid of Sorba to achieve that. |
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Post by basil on Jun 16, 2024 13:19:35 GMT 1
Moving now whilst he is under a cloud is not in his or his agent's best interests.
Surely much better to knuckle down and behave for 6 months.
Then he can reassess and choose a future that suits him.
Seems like a win win to me.
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