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Post by JG Mellor on Sept 18, 2023 20:49:40 GMT 1
I seem to recall the new owners at Charlton saying the same (or similar). ...and others. We contributors on DATM should know, above anyone, that talk is cheap. Let's see what Big Kev delivers? 'Above anyone'- what the fuck does that mean? DATM is a totally insignificant talking shop, which most of us treat as entertainment when we have nothing better to do. |
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Post by Sio on Sept 18, 2023 20:53:29 GMT 1
Personally I think its a ridiculous thing to say - Premier League in 3 years. He doesn't have enough money to bring in a whole new squad of top end chmpionship players, and even if he did, there is no guarantee they would want to come play for us. Most players are on 2 year contracts, so they will be gone before we hit the three year mark. Just staying in this league will be enough for me, with steady progress season on season. Carlos, and Wagner to an extent, proved that a good manager is sometimes more important than a 'top end' squad - we were, on paper, 'bottom end' during Corberan's promotion push. Whether these guys can find a top manager is another thing... |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2023 20:54:57 GMT 1
I like that they are saying it, but the clubs actions in the previous window certainly don’t match up Why not? As I said before, why give a manager who was only expected to last until Christmas the funds to sign players Carte Blanche? New manager comes in with a new style/philosophy wanting different players and all of a sudden that's money wasted that we could have used. I personally expect us to be very active in the January window now. Is that the Carte Blanche that’s been banging them in for fun in the French leagues? I’d heard we were actually in for Carte Horse though? |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 18, 2023 21:02:12 GMT 1
I'm fed up of us having a low target....
Fans deserve to hear our aim....
It's fuckin stupid saying we're aiming for the Prem; talk is cheap....
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 18, 2023 21:18:17 GMT 1
I'm fed up of us having a low target.... Fans deserve to hear our aim.... It's fuckin stupid saying we're aiming for the Prem; talk is cheap.... We've heard it all before though, it's easy saying we're aiming for the PL in 3 years time, whereas I'm not saying that it's not genuine, it's easy to say and much harder to back up on the pitch. Like it or not it's take money and lots of it and even more when you get there. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 18, 2023 21:25:30 GMT 1
I'm fed up of us having a low target.... Fans deserve to hear our aim.... It's fuckin stupid saying we're aiming for the Prem; talk is cheap.... We've heard it all before though, it's easy saying we're aiming for the PL in 3 years time, whereas I'm not saying that it's not genuine, it's easy to say and much harder to back up on the pitch. Like it or not it's take money and lots of it and even more when you get there. I'm not particularly supporting the comment, rather making the point some whinging shit will moan whatever they say or don't say. |
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Post by Amigo on Sept 18, 2023 21:29:51 GMT 1
Don't think it's a daft statement or anything unusual myself. I'd have thought a lot of clubs in the Championship would have a very similar aim. Neither does it have to take a lot of money to get there, even we proved that once and almost twice ourselves very recently.
We don't know who the new manager is, what resources he's going to have available, who players are that are targeted for January or next summer, I actually find it odd that people think this is a strange statement. From the clubs point of view if they weren't targeting the Premier League then that would be odd.
Personally I'm not even in a rush to get back there.
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Post by conman on Sept 18, 2023 21:33:13 GMT 1
I seem to recall the new owners at Charlton saying the same (or similar). ...and others. We contributors on DATM should know, above anyone, that talk is cheap. Let's see what Big Kev delivers? I seem to remember a certain Michael Knighton saying it about Carlisle too . Playing in a 60,000 seater stadium in the premier league , or words to that effect . Should have kept to keepy uppies at old Trafford 😀 |
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Post by wdn on Sept 18, 2023 21:34:44 GMT 1
There will be no money to spend in January now that they will have to no doubt pay up the contracts of Warnock, Jepson, Serrant and Bennett which altogether will no doubt be a sizeable sum …. More wasted money and no goalscoring striker/s signed … I really fear for what might be ahead now
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2023 21:49:31 GMT 1
I seem to recall the new owners at Charlton saying the same (or similar). ...and others. We contributors on DATM should know, above anyone, that talk is cheap. Let's see what Big Kev delivers? I seem to remember a certain Michael Knighton saying it about Carlisle too . Playing in a 60,000 seater stadium in the premier league , or words to that effect . Should have kept to keepy uppies at old Trafford 😀 Now there’s someone that might qualify as your namesake… |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2023 21:52:04 GMT 1
There will be no money to spend in January now that they will have to no doubt pay up the contracts of Warnock, Jepson, Serrant and Bennett which altogether will no doubt be a sizeable sum …. More wasted money and no goalscoring striker/s signed … I really fear for what might be ahead now Don’t you think they’ll have factored in paying up the rest of the 1yr contracts? I mentioned earlier that there may also be a mutual break clause in the contract, the club have found a replacement and have triggered that clause before it becomes payment of the full yr. Maybe it had to be triggered before Xmas? A sanity clause? |
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Post by wdn on Sept 18, 2023 21:58:05 GMT 1
Fantastic if they have
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Post by wdn on Sept 18, 2023 21:59:13 GMT 1
Not so fantastic if they haven’t
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Post by royrace on Sept 18, 2023 22:02:38 GMT 1
The only positive from today, Fridays announcement will speak volumes. With ambitions like that it has to be a top class coach.
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Post by wdn on Sept 18, 2023 22:04:04 GMT 1
I don’t think there is any sanity in football 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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Post by shatterrier on Sept 18, 2023 22:06:24 GMT 1
The only good thing about the Premier League is trying to get there. After that it's a huge disappointment
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Sept 18, 2023 22:22:01 GMT 1
“Premier League in 3 years”
To be honest, at this moment in time I feel that there’s a greater likelihood of “League 2 in 3 years”.
Warnock finally got a tune from this bunch of kids and journeymen. Who tf else could possibly replicate it let alone continue it ?
Right now I feel yet another season of gloom descending upon us.
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Post by diakhabydaily on Sept 18, 2023 22:34:06 GMT 1
“Premier League in 3 years” To be honest, at this moment in time I feel that there’s a greater likelihood of “League 2 in 3 years”. Warnock finally got a tune from this bunch of kids and journeymen. Who tf else could possibly replicate it let alone continue it ? Right now I feel yet another season of gloom descending upon us. [b I really don't get the negativity here. |
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Post by golcarexile on Sept 18, 2023 22:40:42 GMT 1
There will be no money to spend in January now that they will have to no doubt pay up the contracts of Warnock, Jepson, Serrant and Bennett which altogether will no doubt be a sizeable sum …. More wasted money and no goalscoring striker/s signed … I really fear for what might be ahead now Don’t you think they’ll have factored in paying up the rest of the 1yr contracts? I mentioned earlier that there may also be a mutual break clause in the contract, the club have found a replacement and have triggered that clause before it becomes payment of the full yr. Maybe it had to be triggered before Xmas? A sanity clause? I wonder if there's a clause included for him to come back in Feb if we once again find ourselves up shit creek? |
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Post by pterrier on Sept 18, 2023 22:41:44 GMT 1
Just more hot air hyperboles from Nagle unfortunately.
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Post by Dan on Sept 18, 2023 22:50:55 GMT 1
“Premier League in 3 years” To be honest, at this moment in time I feel that there’s a greater likelihood of “League 2 in 3 years”. Warnock finally got a tune from this bunch of kids and journeymen. Who tf else could possibly replicate it let alone continue it ? Right now I feel yet another season of gloom descending upon us. The way some talk about our squad you'd think we've got a bunch of League 2 cloggers playing for us. In Nicholls, Helik and Rudoni I would say we have 3 there who are top half Championship players. Pearson, Ruffels, Hogg, Wiles, Koroma, Thomas all solid Championship players. Some younger players like Diarra and Harratt I have high hopes for. Not kids and journeymen at all. Most of that team on saturday were mid to late 20's in their prime. Who could have kept us up from the situation we were in last season other than Warnock? I can't think of anyone. Who could continue what Warnock has built and have us finishing comfortably away from relegation this season? A lot of competent managers could. We have Warnock to thank for turning the ship around, installing some confidence and improving some players, but he's not the only manager around that can get success out of this squad. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 18, 2023 23:04:25 GMT 1
“Premier League in 3 years” To be honest, at this moment in time I feel that there’s a greater likelihood of “League 2 in 3 years”. Warnock finally got a tune from this bunch of kids and journeymen. Who tf else could possibly replicate it let alone continue it ? Right now I feel yet another season of gloom descending upon us. The way some talk about our squad you'd think we've got a bunch of League 2 cloggers playing for us. In Nicholls, Helik and Rudoni I would say we have 3 there who are top half Championship players. Pearson, Ruffels, Hogg, Wiles, Koroma, Thomas all solid Championship players. Some younger players like Diarra and Harratt I have high hopes for. Not kids and journeymen at all. Most of that team on saturday were mid to late 20's in their prime. Who could have kept us up from the situation we were in last season other than Warnock? I can't think of anyone. Who could continue what Warnock has built and have us finishing comfortably away from relegation this season? A lot of competent managers could. We have Warnock to thank for turning the ship around, installing some confidence and improving some players, but he's not the only manager around that can get success out of this squad. No strikers, no depth and a few who only seemed to respond to Warnock. It's potentially a bottom six squad. |
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Post by irverino on Sept 18, 2023 23:09:13 GMT 1
A fortnight tomorrow we play Birmingham City away, they have new American owners who also want Premier League football (asap), the current Blues manager John Eustace is heavily linked with Rangers fc at the moment & if he was to leave it will be interesting to see what sort of a (big name) manager they attract/appoint......Are we on a par with them or are they way ahead with the likes of Tom Brady on board?
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 18, 2023 23:11:32 GMT 1
“Premier League in 3 years” To be honest, at this moment in time I feel that there’s a greater likelihood of “League 2 in 3 years”. Warnock finally got a tune from this bunch of kids and journeymen. Who tf else could possibly replicate it let alone continue it ? Right now I feel yet another season of gloom descending upon us. [b I really don't get the negativity here. You will on Thursday when our next manager/coach is unveiled  |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 18, 2023 23:17:47 GMT 1
The way some talk about our squad you'd think we've got a bunch of League 2 cloggers playing for us. In Nicholls, Helik and Rudoni I would say we have 3 there who are top half Championship players. Pearson, Ruffels, Hogg, Wiles, Koroma, Thomas all solid Championship players. Some younger players like Diarra and Harratt I have high hopes for. Not kids and journeymen at all. Most of that team on saturday were mid to late 20's in their prime. Who could have kept us up from the situation we were in last season other than Warnock? I can't think of anyone. Who could continue what Warnock has built and have us finishing comfortably away from relegation this season? A lot of competent managers could. We have Warnock to thank for turning the ship around, installing some confidence and improving some players, but he's not the only manager around that can get success out of this squad. No strikers, no depth and a few who only seemed to respond to Warnock. It's potentially a bottom six squad. Thats nowhere near true. Nicholls, Pearson, lees, hogg, thomas.....even turton and ruffels all responded to carlos and integral to a top 4 finish yr before last. The job warnock did was unbelievable - but the playing staff wasnt that bad. Not great - but not bottom 3 stuff. What was utterly inept was giving the managerial role to out of their depth rookies like schofield and fotheringham - genuinely i wouldnt have either as a head coach anywhere. Clueless. We arent particularly blessed upfront but theres some decent players elsewhere in the side and certainly enough to be around halfway if injuries dont bite. |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 18, 2023 23:42:32 GMT 1
A fortnight tomorrow we play Birmingham City away, they have new American owners who also want Premier League football (asap), the current Blues manager John Eustace is heavily linked with Rangers fc at the moment & if he was to leave it will be interesting to see what sort of a (big name) manager they attract/appoint......Are we on a par with them or are they way ahead with the likes of Tom Brady on board? We can compare the summer window that they have had and the one that we have had. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2023 23:48:24 GMT 1
A fortnight tomorrow we play Birmingham City away, they have new American owners who also want Premier League football (asap), the current Blues manager John Eustace is heavily linked with Rangers fc at the moment & if he was to leave it will be interesting to see what sort of a (big name) manager they attract/appoint......Are we on a par with them or are they way ahead with the likes of Tom Brady on board? How is having Tom Brady on board being way ahead of us? US football (gridiron) star buys minority stake in English football club, which I’m sure he’ll have factored in writing it down if nothing comes of it. Maybe a bigger problem that Town fans need to get used to, will be the fact that we effectively have ownership by proxy in operation. We’ve never had a non-UK resident owner of the club. They’ve always been close to the day to day and within handshaking/pitchfork throwing distance of the supporters. I’m hoping this new owner does OK for us, but it’ll be an entirely different experience that will have many different challenges for him and the supporters. Many people decry many of our previous owners, but at least they were all fairly local and were reachable in person, even it some did want to punch them on the nose occasionally. If we start to become an entertainment product for something that’s beyond the fanbase it’ll make me think twice about ST renewal. Can’t stand the off the field shite that dominates the game. |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 18, 2023 23:48:52 GMT 1
No strikers, no depth and a few who only seemed to respond to Warnock. It's potentially a bottom six squad. Thats nowhere near true. Nicholls, Pearson, lees, hogg, thomas.....even turton and ruffels all responded to carlos and integral to a top 4 finish yr before last. The job warnock did was unbelievable - but the playing staff wasnt that bad. Not great - but not bottom 3 stuff. What was utterly inept was giving the managerial role to out of their depth rookies like schofield and fotheringham - genuinely i wouldnt have either as a head coach anywhere. Clueless. We arent particularly blessed upfront but theres some decent players elsewhere in the side and certainly enough to be around halfway if injuries dont bite. I suppose most can remember that we had all the same players with Schofield and Buzz in charge and we were only heading in to League 1. We just have to hope that the new manager is made of better stuff than them. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 19, 2023 4:26:09 GMT 1
I seem to recall the new owners at Charlton saying the same (or similar). ...and others. We contributors on DATM should know, above anyone, that talk is cheap. Let's see what Big Kev delivers? 'Above anyone'- what the fuck does that mean? DATM is a totally insignificant talking shop, which most of us treat as entertainment when we have nothing better to do. Thank you...I rest my case. |
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Post by detox on Sept 19, 2023 6:36:12 GMT 1
So how comes we just sacked a manager who has won several promotions to the Premier league? Don't think NW wanted a longer contract so basically ruled himself out.. anyway he'd be about 110 by then... |
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