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Post by richhtfc on Oct 30, 2023 10:03:15 GMT 1
He’s only a loan isn’t he? Can’t we send him back in January? I’d send him back now and pay his wages til Jan if we have to . He’s not good enough . We’d be better off recalling Brodie Spencer and giving him the experience or telling Jackson he’s getting a run there. What’s fucking me off the most with Moore is his constant tinkering of personnel and formations in key areas . Decide your strongest defence and let it gel . Play players in their best positions . Three fit left backs in the club and plays Koroma there . Thomas behind the strikers , Nakayama in defensive midfield . All baffling . Know what you mean, I think he’s so desperate to deliver on his promise of “attacking football” that he just keeps moving them around in the hope something will work. I’m hoping the last two results will have spelt out loud and clear that we need to stop the opposition scoring to have any chance at all in this division. At least until we get some better attacking players anyway. |
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Post by scutcher on Oct 30, 2023 10:49:39 GMT 1
3 year plan to get in the Premier! We don't have the money to compete in the Championship in which we are the worst team/squad regardless of managers! Warnock is a one off and should have been kept on. Look at the 3 promoted sides,Sheffield United on 1 point! The hype before a new manager is appointed is laughable. We were were told they had been tracking Siewert for 6 years for one example!
Might as well have Monty Python as the management team. The half time entertainment would be better!
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Post by boooothy on Oct 30, 2023 23:30:16 GMT 1
3 to 1 with Sky Bet
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 31, 2023 0:35:08 GMT 1
Which question are we asking?
"Is relegation inevitable?" No.
"Will Town go down?". Probably.
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Post by royrace on Oct 31, 2023 10:12:01 GMT 1
I’d send him back now and pay his wages til Jan if we have to . He’s not good enough . We’d be better off recalling Brodie Spencer and giving him the experience or telling Jackson he’s getting a run there. What’s fucking me off the most with Moore is his constant tinkering of personnel and formations in key areas . Decide your strongest defence and let it gel . Play players in their best positions . Three fit left backs in the club and plays Koroma there . Thomas behind the strikers , Nakayama in defensive midfield . All baffling . Know what you mean, I think he’s so desperate to deliver on his promise of “attacking football” that he just keeps moving them around in the hope something will work. I’m hoping the last two results will have spelt out loud and clear that we need to stop the opposition scoring to have any chance at all in this division. At least until we get some better attacking players anyway. What comes across as really stupid is failing to learn from past experience, I know he and his team have only just rocked up but surely they could take some advice from senior pros and the remaining coaching staff on what works and what doesn't for the team. There must be hours and hours of footage of every single game yet him and his team think its a good idea to come in, tear everything up and start from scratch. That in itself I'm afraid shows stupidity. You can do that if you have a pre-season, you don't come in mid season and immediately start changing everything in a team that is currently overachieving results-wise, it's just basic common sense. Common sense would be to keep things very similar and make simple incremental changes as you go, maybe introduce the odd new thing game by game. Wagner was clever enough to get the senior pros on side immediately and learnt things from them, has DM done the same? If so he could perhaps have avoided a lot of the stupid decisions he's made with the formation and personnel. |
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Post by araucaria on Oct 31, 2023 10:58:19 GMT 1
Know what you mean, I think he’s so desperate to deliver on his promise of “attacking football” that he just keeps moving them around in the hope something will work. I’m hoping the last two results will have spelt out loud and clear that we need to stop the opposition scoring to have any chance at all in this division. At least until we get some better attacking players anyway. What comes across as really stupid is failing to learn from past experience, I know he and his team have only just rocked up but surely they could take some advice from senior pros and the remaining coaching staff on what works and what doesn't for the team. There must be hours and hours of footage of every single game yet him and his team think its a good idea to come in, tear everything up and start from scratch. That in itself I'm afraid shows stupidity. You can do that if you have a pre-season, you don't come in mid season and immediately start changing everything in a team that is currently overachieving results-wise, it's just basic common sense. Common sense would be to keep things very similar and make simple incremental changes as you go, maybe introduce the odd new thing game by game. Wagner was clever enough to get the senior pros on side immediately and learnt things from them, has DM done the same? If so he could perhaps have avoided a lot of the stupid decisions he's made with the formation and personnel. Absolutely spot on. Remember the continuity candidate Danny Schofield? Had he ever watched his predecessor's team play? Hogg and Russell - Russell! - were asked to press Burnley high up the pitch and, not surprisingly, failed at every turn, resulting in Burnley running at our unprotected defence so often that it was a miracle that they only scored once by half-time. We talk about how Moore's interview might have gone (imagine Wadworth's) but I doubt that anyone bothered to ask Danny how he wanted the team to play. |
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Post by araucaria on Oct 31, 2023 11:03:20 GMT 1
DATM's poll says 6/4. I wrote a day or two ago that Skybet were on their own in offering much better odds on Town than any other bookie. Does Dale Tempest know something that the rest - and us - don't? |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 31, 2023 11:05:27 GMT 1
DATM's poll says 6/4. I wrote a day or two ago that Skybet were on their own in offering much better odds on Town than any other bookie. Does Dale Tempest know something that the rest - and us - don't? Dale left SkyBet a few years ago  |
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 31, 2023 11:27:02 GMT 1
DATM's poll says 6/4. I wrote a day or two ago that Skybet were on their own in offering much better odds on Town than any other bookie. Does Dale Tempest know something that the rest - and us - don't? Dale left SkyBet a few years ago Ha ha. I hope he got a job where he had included his own odds. And made a packet. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Nov 11, 2023 18:09:43 GMT 1
Got hammered for this, every week that passes the more likelier it gets. Tragic from top to bottom.
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Post by malcolmbrown on Nov 11, 2023 18:37:32 GMT 1
There is no way there are three worse teams than us in the league on our current form. It's a good job we undeservedly beat QPR.
We are toast. Thanks Mr Nagel.
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Post by TJTown on Nov 11, 2023 18:37:46 GMT 1
Years and years of mismanagement, bad decisions, poor recruitment and underinvestment is finally going to cost us. Unless we sign at least 3-4 good quality players at this level (we've no chance of that happening btw). We're stuffed.
Heard all sorts about Warnock and believe he was put in an untenable position... So that was a matter of time before it fell apart regardless.
Do think Moore was brought in with one eye on rebuilding in League 1 next season too. And it will be a rebuild job because we're miles off in all departments.
I do believe we need a hard reset and most of the clowns currently pulling the strings need to go. I like Kev and think he wants what's best, but he needs to wise up fast about what's badly needed at the club.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Nov 11, 2023 18:42:52 GMT 1
Circle the drain long enough and you will eventually drop. Freak season under Carlos hides the fact that we have been relegation fodder for 4 out of 5 seasons. 6 out of 7 if you include the Premier league.
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Post by willo on Nov 11, 2023 19:12:55 GMT 1
Twist and make the right call and we should stay up. Stick and we’re going down, even with Wednesday and Rotherham being even worse than we are.
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Post by space hardware on Nov 11, 2023 19:45:32 GMT 1
Circle the drain long enough and you will eventually drop. Freak season under Carlos hides the fact that we have been relegation fodder for 4 out of 5 seasons. 6 out of 7 if you include the Premier league. Just imagine that we'd gone up that season. I think Derby's record would have gone 😁 |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 11, 2023 20:04:07 GMT 1
Circle the drain long enough and you will eventually drop. Freak season under Carlos hides the fact that we have been relegation fodder for 4 out of 5 seasons. 6 out of 7 if you include the Premier league. Just imagine that we'd gone up that season. I think Derby's record would have gone 😁 But we'd have had a second chance to (not) blow our brains out. You'd expect that we'd be in better shape than we are now, but we all know that we'd have found yet another way to fuck it up. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Nov 11, 2023 20:07:32 GMT 1
We might be lucky this season in that there are 3 poor sides below us. Rotherham are the most likely I reckon to string a run together at some point.
Hopefully Wednesday get a points deduction to completely condemn them.
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Post by paulsg on Nov 11, 2023 20:38:34 GMT 1
Is there a term for a person who gets themselves into a crisis situation, miraculously gets out of it - but then jumps straight back into it again?
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Post by Orinoco on Nov 11, 2023 20:45:45 GMT 1
It was way tighter at the bottom last season, Weds and Rotherham looked doomed at the moment
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Post by malcolmbrown on Nov 11, 2023 23:01:58 GMT 1
It was way tighter at the bottom last season, Weds and Rotherham looked doomed at the moment I fear it might be a White Rose clean sweep of the bottom three. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 12, 2023 10:38:01 GMT 1
It was way tighter at the bottom last season, Weds and Rotherham looked doomed at the moment I fear it might be a White Rose clean sweep of the bottom three. Unless of course one of them gets Warnock and it won't be us. |
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Post by ambryboy on Nov 12, 2023 10:41:35 GMT 1
Is there a term for a person who gets themselves into a crisis situation, miraculously gets out of it - but then jumps straight back into it again? Stupid? |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Nov 12, 2023 12:48:32 GMT 1
How many jobs are going to be lost in relegation? I just feel for those working in the club, hope they don’t lose jobs but imagine a cost cutting exercise will follow.
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Post by morleyterrier on Nov 12, 2023 13:40:46 GMT 1
Nailed on unless we make a change.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Dec 12, 2023 22:47:15 GMT 1
Yes
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Post by runner76 on Dec 12, 2023 23:05:10 GMT 1
At least we might have a realistic promotion campaign in the next three years…..
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Dec 12, 2023 23:21:43 GMT 1
Circle the drain long enough and you will eventually drop. Freak season under Carlos hides the fact that we have been relegation fodder for 4 out of 5 seasons. 6 out of 7 if you include the Premier league. apart from a single season under each of Buxton, Horton, Jacko, Bruce, Wagner and CC i think the rest of the time i have seen us in the 2nd tier, we are water treaders, hoping 3 sides r shyter than we are |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 12, 2023 23:45:35 GMT 1
Yes.
Moore out.
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Post by Terriersmad on Dec 12, 2023 23:49:02 GMT 1
Without serious investment: yes.
That's nothing to do with the manager. It's entirely down to the fact the players just aren't good enough. Changing the manager won't change that.
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Post by RickDangerous on Dec 12, 2023 23:59:41 GMT 1
Without serious investment: yes. That's nothing to do with the manager. It's entirely down to the fact the players just aren't good enough. Changing the manager won't change that. It's not entirely down to that. Yes the squad is thin but the players we had tonight are capable of more than that. We are the only team in the championship, possibly football league who play every game like we are a poor away team. |
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