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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 5, 2024 17:11:52 GMT 1
harsh mosh, i did it on my phone on dictation but thanks . my points are still valid . Couldn't be bothered to read all of your post but one stood out for me. Explain how we messed the Joe Taylor one up? He was with us the night before the window shut it seems, then we had no back up plan just in case. We were and are in desprate need of a cf, yet did not have a back up plan ? |
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Post by tottz on Sept 5, 2024 17:13:50 GMT 1
The overreaction on here is massive. We have lost 3 games. One game we were 2-0 up in and had a man sent off with a 2nd string back line. One game we were 1-0 up with had a man sent off and the worst penalty decision I've ever seen and the other we played a bunch of kids in the most pointless cup competition on earth. We are playing Man Utd U21s in a few weeks FFS. Yes performance levels have dropped but let's not pretend we are languishing at the foot of the table. Plenty of time to put things right and knee jerking like this is hysterical crap. If that's the worst penalty decision you've ever seen you mustn't have watched many games |
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Post by benhomly on Sept 5, 2024 17:15:30 GMT 1
Couldn't be bothered to read all of your post but one stood out for me. Explain how we messed the Joe Taylor one up? He was with us the night before the window shut it seems, then we had no back up plan just in case. We were and are in desprate need of a cf, yet did not have a back up plan ? Do we know that for a fact? Could be any number of reasons other targets didn't come off. We've seen before how hopeless some loan signings have been for us, who's to know they weren't desperate 'alternative signings'. (I'm not a happy clapper by the way, just don't take it as seriously as most) |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 5, 2024 17:24:00 GMT 1
He was with us the night before the window shut it seems, then we had no back up plan just in case. We were and are in desprate need of a cf, yet did not have a back up plan ? Do we know that for a fact? Could be any number of reasons other targets didn't come off. We've seen before how hopeless some loan signings have been for us, who's to know they weren't desperate 'alternative signings'. (I'm not a happy clapper by the way, just don't take it as seriously as most) We have done so well in the last three windows, so we should just give them a free pass this time?  |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Sept 5, 2024 17:30:51 GMT 1
Town have a long history of not been able to get players in and letting our best players go. Dennis Law, Dereck Parkin, Bob McNab, Frank Worthington just to name a few of the many and Bill Shankley wanted money to bring in Ian St John and Ron Yates and was turned down, they were the first two players he bought in at Liverpool to build that great team. Ricky Lambert and Jamie Vardy in recent years, again we didn't offer enough for them and the rest is history, Town will have their budget and stick to it that is fair enough, so the question is would we fans be prepared to pay another £5 a game or £100 extra on season tickets but there again do we have the right people in place to bring good footballers to this club.
I find it somewhat amazing that the club thought there was only two strikers good enough worth touting for to come to this wonderful club of ours.
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 5, 2024 17:30:59 GMT 1
bells ringing :)A) Alfie May - You're correct, nothing we could have done B) Clarke Harris - Wanted to go back to Rotherham and play for Evans. The deal was probably pre-agreed with his agent before the end of last season (We more of less did that with Ward when he was at Cardiff and wanted to move back to Huddersfield full time to live with his wife and kids). C) Nombe - 3 goals in 41 games last season for Rotherham in the Championship. 0 goals in 4 this season in League 1. 39 Goals in 218 games!?!?!?!?!?! D) Max Dean - 15 goals in League 2 got him an opportunity to move to KAA Gent in the top league in Belgium. He'll be playing in the Europa Conference league this season. I think most 20 year old would choose KAA Gent in the top Belgium league, competing for the Title in Belgium, Belgium Cup, Super Cup and Europa Conference league, ahead of Huddersfield Town in League one, competing in the EFL Trophy. Even if we were in for him, little to no chance of getting him once KAA Gent came on for him. E) Langstaff - Excellent for the last 3 seasons in the National League North, National League and League 2. That goal scoring form got him a move to Championship Millwall. His Agent was likely touting him round Championship teams last season, probably including us. After we got relegated to League 1, why would he have chosen us ahead of a Championship Club. It's likely a number of Championship teams were speaking to his Agent. F) Taylor - We enquired about him at the same time as May. We had dialog with Luton throughout the window and they were keen to let him come to us on Loan. They play with 2 strikers and he's a different type of player/striker to the starting 2. They were trying to get someone better, with the same profile as him before letting him come to us on loan. They thought they were there with a deal to sign a player so let Joe come up to sort everything out here. Whilst he's up hear sorting everything out, the deal Luton were trying to get over the line fell through and they didn't have any other options, so pulled out of the deal with us and decided to keep him. Town did everything they could and Luton were keen to let him come to us. They pulled the plug on us at the last minute. No way we messed that up. We decided to sign Marshall on loan, which has looked good so far and were very confident of getting Taylor, but it just didn't happen. Just like it didn't happen when we tried to get Schindler, Heff and Lowe in the January window of Wagner's first season. Sometimes transfers just don't happen. Watch the first episode of the second series of the Burnley documentary for some insight into what happens during a transfer window. You could go on naming other strikers, but please don't!
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 5, 2024 17:32:58 GMT 1
The buck stops with the manager, the clue is in the word manager.
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Post by sabailand on Sept 5, 2024 18:01:39 GMT 1
Before the season started most on here would have said they'd be happy to finish top six, 4 games played we're 5th with 42 games to go, its not KN's fault we've had a dip in results.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 5, 2024 18:02:54 GMT 1
Couldn't be bothered to read all of your post but one stood out for me. Explain how we messed the Joe Taylor one up? Don't think we actually messed up the Joe Taylor one, but we did completely bugger up any other option...!!! That we had 800k and 12k a week to throw at Alfie May, tells me the Taylor farce was simply that. If you cannot get Taylor then its hard for me to accept that there isnt another forward we could be trying to get for that kind of money in the third division. I appreciate deals have many caveats but again that means that my recruitment team, who know we have 2 sick note strikers and 2 we want to unload to anyone, are fully aware of it and work harder and longer to acquire a forward. Taylor is simply a part of the failure, his non move should not have been the only outcome.. |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 5, 2024 18:29:15 GMT 1
The last 10 days have been shite but before then there was real optimism.
Maybe a bit of calm needed for 4/6 wks.
By the time the end of oct comes we will have visited brum, wrexham, posh, rovrum, bolton - all expected to challenge at the top.
Currently weve beaten two bang average sides and won one and lost one against so called challengers.
Time to look then imo ... Too early right now
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Post by isitjustme on Sept 5, 2024 18:52:57 GMT 1
Don't think we actually messed up the Joe Taylor one, but we did completely bugger up any other option...!!! That we had 800k and 12k a week to throw at Alfie May, tells me the Taylor farce was simply that. If you cannot get Taylor then its hard for me to accept that there isnt another forward we could be trying to get for that kind of money in the third division. I appreciate deals have many caveats but again that means that my recruitment team, who know we have 2 sick note strikers and 2 we want to unload to anyone, are fully aware of it and work harder and longer to acquire a forward. Taylor is simply a part of the failure, his non move should not have been the only outcome.. Absolutely agree. The fact that we did not identify another alternative should the Taylor deal not proceed, is absurd. Shows Cartwright in a very poor light, if he's told Nagle that they were the only two strikers that would strengthen our team. Shows that he has very limited access to the others who would undoubtedly have improved our team. Worrying...!!! |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 5, 2024 19:29:53 GMT 1
That we had 800k and 12k a week to throw at Alfie May, tells me the Taylor farce was simply that. If you cannot get Taylor then its hard for me to accept that there isnt another forward we could be trying to get for that kind of money in the third division. I appreciate deals have many caveats but again that means that my recruitment team, who know we have 2 sick note strikers and 2 we want to unload to anyone, are fully aware of it and work harder and longer to acquire a forward. Taylor is simply a part of the failure, his non move should not have been the only outcome.. Absolutely agree. The fact that we did not identify another alternative should the Taylor deal not proceed, is absurd. Shows Cartwright in a very poor light, if he's told Nagle that they were the only two strikers that would strengthen our team. Shows that he has very limited access to the others who would undoubtedly have improved our team. Worrying...!!! Cartwright has been called out for favouring one agent, I don't know if this is accurate or not but if it were it may explain why we appear to have had a limited range of options. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 5, 2024 20:23:43 GMT 1
Couldn't be bothered to read all of your post but one stood out for me. Explain how we messed the Joe Taylor one up? He was with us the night before the window shut it seems, then we had no back up plan just in case. We were and are in desprate need of a cf, yet did not have a back up plan ? We should have set a deadline with Luton that gave us enough time to get someone else in. That someone should have been identified and lined up. Not to do this is poor management of the business. |
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Post by willo on Sept 6, 2024 0:29:00 GMT 1
We were efficient for 60 minutes against Posh. The following 2 league games could easily have gone against us. Our sporadic performances reared their ugly heads. The last 3 were full of big holes.. I accept the decisions went against us but they were of our own making. Both red cards were entirely avoidable. The work rate was not high enough and some of the careless stuff was pretty scary. This squad is going to have to work its arse off as a team every game, it does not have the quality to get away with just doing enough, we know it, we have watched it. I await us putting the 60 minute Posh performance on more often and for longer. Dare I say the posh performance wasn't exactly emphatic either, could have gone in two down quite easily. Spot on. We were really good 2nd half that game, best I’ve seen us play for months, but with better finishing Peterborough would have gone in at the break a couple of goals to the good. |
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Post by willo on Sept 6, 2024 0:35:25 GMT 1
Before the season started most on here would have said they'd be happy to finish top six, 4 games played we're 5th with 42 games to go, its not KN's fault we've had a dip in results. As with any season, the real gauge is 10-12 games in/end of October. Trying to look at things with a bit of positivity, if we’re anywhere near with another transfer window in January on the horizon and the chance to again try and reinforce, then who knows. But from what I’ve seen so far of us, we’re a long way from that. We have a tough September ahead where I expect us to slip down the table from where we are now given how unimpressive recent performances have been against some pretty poor opposition. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 6, 2024 0:35:32 GMT 1
Dare I say the posh performance wasn't exactly emphatic either, could have gone in two down quite easily. Spot on. We were really good 2nd half that game, best I’ve seen us play for months, but with better finishing Peterborough would have gone in at the break a couple of goals to the good. The 'efficient' for 60 mins comment covered the first part of the game where we looked a bit out of sync from the middle to the back..😉 |
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Post by mosher on Sept 6, 2024 8:36:56 GMT 1
Absolutely agree. The fact that we did not identify another alternative should the Taylor deal not proceed, is absurd. Shows Cartwright in a very poor light, if he's told Nagle that they were the only two strikers that would strengthen our team. Shows that he has very limited access to the others who would undoubtedly have improved our team. Worrying...!!! , I don't know if this is accurate or not but if it were it may explain why we appear to have had a limited range of options. I thought that Beswick Sports thing had been debunked by some of our signings not being with them? Sure I read that somewhere. Not excusing Cartwright btw  |
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Post by Sio on Sept 6, 2024 9:01:39 GMT 1
That we had 800k and 12k a week to throw at Alfie May, tells me the Taylor farce was simply that. If you cannot get Taylor then its hard for me to accept that there isnt another forward we could be trying to get for that kind of money in the third division. I appreciate deals have many caveats but again that means that my recruitment team, who know we have 2 sick note strikers and 2 we want to unload to anyone, are fully aware of it and work harder and longer to acquire a forward. Taylor is simply a part of the failure, his non move should not have been the only outcome.. Absolutely agree. The fact that we did not identify another alternative should the Taylor deal not proceed, is absurd. Shows Cartwright in a very poor light, if he's told Nagle that they were the only two strikers that would strengthen our team. Shows that he has very limited access to the others who would undoubtedly have improved our team. Worrying...!!! My bigger concern with this is that Alfie May was almost definitely a Duff suggestion (based on Cheltenham days), so once that went out of the window did we collectively, between the manager's and Cartwright's contacts, only have one other option who we thought would be an improvement on an injury-prone or Danny Ward-led front line? Baffling. |
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Post by jjamez on Sept 6, 2024 9:11:33 GMT 1
bells ringing :)A) Alfie May - You're correct, nothing we could have done B) Clarke Harris - Wanted to go back to Rotherham and play for Evans. The deal was probably pre-agreed with his agent before the end of last season (We more of less did that with Ward when he was at Cardiff and wanted to move back to Huddersfield full time to live with his wife and kids). C) Nombe - 3 goals in 41 games last season for Rotherham in the Championship. 0 goals in 4 this season in League 1. 39 Goals in 218 games!?!?!?!?!?! D) Max Dean - 15 goals in League 2 got him an opportunity to move to KAA Gent in the top league in Belgium. He'll be playing in the Europa Conference league this season. I think most 20 year old would choose KAA Gent in the top Belgium league, competing for the Title in Belgium, Belgium Cup, Super Cup and Europa Conference league, ahead of Huddersfield Town in League one, competing in the EFL Trophy. Even if we were in for him, little to no chance of getting him once KAA Gent came on for him. E) Langstaff - Excellent for the last 3 seasons in the National League North, National League and League 2. That goal scoring form got him a move to Championship Millwall. His Agent was likely touting him round Championship teams last season, probably including us. After we got relegated to League 1, why would he have chosen us ahead of a Championship Club. It's likely a number of Championship teams were speaking to his Agent. F) Taylor - We enquired about him at the same time as May. We had dialog with Luton throughout the window and they were keen to let him come to us on Loan. They play with 2 strikers and he's a different type of player/striker to the starting 2. They were trying to get someone better, with the same profile as him before letting him come to us on loan. They thought they were there with a deal to sign a player so let Joe come up to sort everything out here. Whilst he's up hear sorting everything out, the deal Luton were trying to get over the line fell through and they didn't have any other options, so pulled out of the deal with us and decided to keep him. Town did everything they could and Luton were keen to let him come to us. They pulled the plug on us at the last minute. No way we messed that up. We decided to sign Marshall on loan, which has looked good so far and were very confident of getting Taylor, but it just didn't happen. Just like it didn't happen when we tried to get Schindler, Heff and Lowe in the January window of Wagner's first season. Sometimes transfers just don't happen. Watch the first episode of the second series of the Burnley documentary for some insight into what happens during a transfer window. You could go on naming other strikers, but please don't! Neil Harris has been rather scathing about langstaff, claiming Millwall needed a number 9 in the summer and now they need two. It wouldn't surprise me if he becomes available in January for a touch less than what they paid |
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Post by wigster on Sept 6, 2024 9:12:28 GMT 1
Absolutely agree. The fact that we did not identify another alternative should the Taylor deal not proceed, is absurd. Shows Cartwright in a very poor light, if he's told Nagle that they were the only two strikers that would strengthen our team. Shows that he has very limited access to the others who would undoubtedly have improved our team. Worrying...!!! My bigger concern with this is that Alfie May was almost definitely a Duff suggestion (based on Cheltenham days), so once that went out of the window did we collectively, between the manager's and Cartwright's contacts, only have one other option who we thought would be an improvement on an injury-prone or Danny Ward-led front line? Baffling. That's exactly what Mr Nagle said. |
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 6, 2024 9:25:18 GMT 1
Absolutely agree. The fact that we did not identify another alternative should the Taylor deal not proceed, is absurd. Shows Cartwright in a very poor light, if he's told Nagle that they were the only two strikers that would strengthen our team. Shows that he has very limited access to the others who would undoubtedly have improved our team. Worrying...!!! My bigger concern with this is that Alfie May was almost definitely a Duff suggestion (based on Cheltenham days), so once that went out of the window did we collectively, between the manager's and Cartwright's contacts, only have one other option who we thought would be an improvement on an injury-prone or Danny Ward-led front line? Baffling. I believe that when May went to Brum Town decided to go for 1 PL loan and Taylor. Rather than May and Taylor. We got the PL loan in Marshall and narrowly missed out on Taylor, just like Luton missed out on their target. Had Luton got their target over the line, we'd have had Taylor. However, Luton had no other viable options to their main target and so had to pull the plug on Taylor's move to us. Had they had another option, they'd have got him and Taylor would have come to us. Seem like both Town's were only targeting one option, with no back up plan. So for everyone saying our search for a striker was amateurish, negligent, crap ect ect, so was Luton's it would seem. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 6, 2024 9:26:36 GMT 1
The fact that we set on scouts that just specialise in league 1 and 2 says everything about our limited options available when it came to bringing in a new striker. The ridiculous comment from Nagle saying only two strikers were good enough for town is probably true when you limit yourself to one shelf in an entire supermarket.
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Post by Sio on Sept 6, 2024 9:31:44 GMT 1
My bigger concern with this is that Alfie May was almost definitely a Duff suggestion (based on Cheltenham days), so once that went out of the window did we collectively, between the manager's and Cartwright's contacts, only have one other option who we thought would be an improvement on an injury-prone or Danny Ward-led front line? Baffling. I believe that when May went to Brum Town decided to go for 1 PL loan and Taylor. Rather than May and Taylor. We got the PL loan in Marshall and narrowly missed out on Taylor, just like Luton missed out on their target. Had Luton got their target over the line, we'd have had Taylor. However, Luton had no other viable options to their main target and so had to pull the plug on Taylor's move to us. Had they had another option, they'd have got him and Taylor would have come to us. Seem like both Town's were only targeting one option, with no back up plan. So for everyone saying our search for a striker was amateurish, negligent, crap ect ect, so was Luton's it would seem. True, but difference being they have Morris, Adebayo and Jacob Brown to fall back on. |
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Post by ram on Sept 6, 2024 9:41:00 GMT 1
The silence on the situation surrounding the Stadium purchase,drags on. Every time he does a diary "it is very close" As previously stated by another poster,it has been in this state for ages now.What the hell is the obstacle that a {Billionare} cannot solve.Alan Sugar would have tied em in knots.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 6, 2024 9:46:27 GMT 1
Cartwright has been called out for favouring one agent, I don't know if this is accurate or not but if it were it may explain why we appear to have had a limited range of options. I thought that Beswick Sports thing had been debunked by some of our signings not being with them? Sure I read that somewhere. Not excusing Cartwright btw Lets hope so. |
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 6, 2024 10:09:46 GMT 1
I believe that when May went to Brum Town decided to go for 1 PL loan and Taylor. Rather than May and Taylor. We got the PL loan in Marshall and narrowly missed out on Taylor, just like Luton missed out on their target. Had Luton got their target over the line, we'd have had Taylor. However, Luton had no other viable options to their main target and so had to pull the plug on Taylor's move to us. Had they had another option, they'd have got him and Taylor would have come to us. Seem like both Town's were only targeting one option, with no back up plan. So for everyone saying our search for a striker was amateurish, negligent, crap ect ect, so was Luton's it would seem. True, but difference being they have Morris, Adebayo and Jacob Brown to fall back on. Who have scored Zero goals between them this season. Brown hasn't even played and the last time they were in the Championship he scored 7 in 38. 45 goals in 258 games Since making his debut 10 seasons ago, Morris has had 2 season's where he's scored double figures. 90 goals in 387 games The season Luton got promoted to the Premier League, Adebeyo scored 7 in 42 games. 80 in 287 games. So not exactly prolific strikers to fall back on.... |
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 6, 2024 10:20:30 GMT 1
The silence on the situation surrounding the Stadium purchase,drags on. Every time he does a diary "it is very close" As previously stated by another poster,it has been in this state for ages now.What the hell is the obstacle that a {Billionare} cannot solve.Alan Sugar would have tied em in knots. I'd suggest it may well be Ken Davy. What happens to the Giants if Town take full ownership of the stadium. They would have to start paying rent to Town and would have no home of their own. What happens if Town go bust. The stadium would be closed and the giants would have nowhere to play. There is currently no viable reason for Ken Davy, as an astute businessman, to sell the Giants 20% share in the stadium company. The only viable reason would be if the Giants moved into their own Purpose built stadium. But that's likely to cost the best part of £15-£20m+ to build at todays cost. Plus they probably couldn't even afford to run and maintain such a stadium on their own. So who's gonna pay for it building and all the running & maintenance costs. They are currently playing in a very nice stadium, which someone else paid for and someone else if paying the vast majority of Maintenance and running costs. Other than rent, it's likely the Giants are paying for nothing. If the Stadium complex is every made into a profitable and sustainable business, then the Giants currently get 20% of any profits. Ken Davy is not going to give up that opportunity easily. As it stands I see little business sense in Ken Davey selling the Giant share. Naturally I hope I'm wrong and the above is a load of bollox, he sells today and Town take over the stadium complex |
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Post by Sio on Sept 6, 2024 10:20:51 GMT 1
True, but difference being they have Morris, Adebayo and Jacob Brown to fall back on. Who have scored Zero goals between them this season. Brown hasn't even played and the last time they were in the Championship he scored 7 in 38. 45 goals in 258 games Since making his debut 10 seasons ago, Morris has had 2 season's where he's scored double figures. 90 goals in 387 games The season Luton got promoted to the Premier League, Adebeyo scored 7 in 42 games. 80 in 287 games. So not exactly prolific strikers to fall back on.... Morris and Adebayo both got 10+ in their maiden season in the Premier League. Did we have a single player who reached double figures across two Premier League seasons combined? So if Luton don't fancy them, they know where we are! |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 6, 2024 10:27:38 GMT 1
True, but difference being they have Morris, Adebayo and Jacob Brown to fall back on. Who have scored Zero goals between them this season. Brown hasn't even played and the last time they were in the Championship he scored 7 in 38. 45 goals in 258 games Since making his debut 10 seasons ago, Morris has had 2 season's where he's scored double figures. 90 goals in 387 games The season Luton got promoted to the Premier League, Adebeyo scored 7 in 42 games. 80 in 287 games. So not exactly prolific strikers to fall back on.... How does that compare to Wards record? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 6, 2024 10:30:13 GMT 1
bells ringing :) A) Alfie May - You're correct, nothing we could have done B) Clarke Harris - Wanted to go back to Rotherham and play for Evans. The deal was probably pre-agreed with his agent before the end of last season (We more of less did that with Ward when he was at Cardiff and wanted to move back to Huddersfield full time to live with his wife and kids). C) Nombe - 3 goals in 41 games last season for Rotherham in the Championship. 0 goals in 4 this season in League 1. 39 Goals in 218 games!?!?!?!?!?! D) Max Dean - 15 goals in League 2 got him an opportunity to move to KAA Gent in the top league in Belgium. He'll be playing in the Europa Conference league this season. I think most 20 year old would choose KAA Gent in the top Belgium league, competing for the Title in Belgium, Belgium Cup, Super Cup and Europa Conference league, ahead of Huddersfield Town in League one, competing in the EFL Trophy. Even if we were in for him, little to no chance of getting him once KAA Gent came on for him. E) Langstaff - Excellent for the last 3 seasons in the National League North, National League and League 2. That goal scoring form got him a move to Championship Millwall. His Agent was likely touting him round Championship teams last season, probably including us. After we got relegated to League 1, why would he have chosen us ahead of a Championship Club. It's likely a number of Championship teams were speaking to his Agent. F) Taylor - We enquired about him at the same time as May. We had dialog with Luton throughout the window and they were keen to let him come to us on Loan. They play with 2 strikers and he's a different type of player/striker to the starting 2. They were trying to get someone better, with the same profile as him before letting him come to us on loan. They thought they were there with a deal to sign a player so let Joe come up to sort everything out here. Whilst he's up hear sorting everything out, the deal Luton were trying to get over the line fell through and they didn't have any other options, so pulled out of the deal with us and decided to keep him. Town did everything they could and Luton were keen to let him come to us. They pulled the plug on us at the last minute. No way we messed that up. We decided to sign Marshall on loan, which has looked good so far and were very confident of getting Taylor, but it just didn't happen. Just like it didn't happen when we tried to get Schindler, Heff and Lowe in the January window of Wagner's first season. Sometimes transfers just don't happen. Watch the first episode of the second series of the Burnley documentary for some insight into what happens during a transfer window. You could go on naming other strikers, but please don't! Neil Harris has been rather scathing about langstaff, claiming Millwall needed a number 9 in the summer and now they need two. It wouldn't surprise me if he becomes available in January for a touch less than what they paid 1 of the points i was making Sparrow - Is that i totally understand your points though. Is that the statment made "we could not find, anyone better than we already have" was a stupid statment to make. As for example JCH and Nombe have a physical presence or pace , neither we have right now. The overall point i was making is that the statment is stupid for 1 main reason , which is the glaring obvious one , they would be fit to PLAY. We have cf's currently who, will not play enough and Nagle et al knew this , there injury records never mind their goalscoring records make this very clear. Cartwright is suppose to have this wealth of targets and there is a whole world of footballers to look at. We also agreed a fee around the 750k mark for May, yet others on the list were either free or around this same marker and yet we signed a young lad on loan and that was it ! What i am asking for is honesty , not this lets bullshit statment our way through yet another season, you know what we did last year and for that matter Town in the last decade have made , some corkers of statments . That in the end came back to bite us in the arse anyone remember "we will not sleep walk into relegation" - this club is still sleep walking now it seems. |
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