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Post by softboy on Jun 1, 2024 21:52:31 GMT 1
Happy to give Duff a month, but as season doesn't start till August a month seems a bit harsh!
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Post by richhtfc on Jun 1, 2024 22:02:59 GMT 1
Another one of Cartwrights choices at Stoke - Joselu, now a Champions League Winner 🤔
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Post by rougeboy31 on Jun 1, 2024 22:06:40 GMT 1
Another one of Cartwrights choices at Stoke - Joselu, now a Champions League Winner 🤔 you’ve got that and then fullkrug on Dortmund side who I’m fairly sure town wanted when he was at Hannover. |
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Post by richhtfc on Jun 1, 2024 22:10:08 GMT 1
Another one of Cartwrights choices at Stoke - Joselu, now a Champions League Winner 🤔 you’ve got that and then fullkrug on Dortmund side who I’m fairly sure town wanted when he was at Hannover. Yep and Choupo Mouting who was one of the most impressive players I saw at the JS when we were in the Prem and has gone on to have a great career at Bayern. And that’s before we remember he found Arnautovic as well, who’s one of the top three strikers I’ve seen play against us in 40 years. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Jun 1, 2024 22:27:17 GMT 1
you’ve got that and then fullkrug on Dortmund side who I’m fairly sure town wanted when he was at Hannover. Yep and Choupo Mouting who was one of the most impressive players I saw at the JS when we were in the Prem and has gone on to have a great career at Bayern. And that’s before we remember he found Arnautovic as well, who’s one of the top three strikers I’ve seen play against us in 40 years. Still love arnie to this day, that complete swagger of a player who knows he has it and is allowed to play how he wants. |
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Post by richhtfc on Jun 1, 2024 22:30:13 GMT 1
Yep and Choupo Mouting who was one of the most impressive players I saw at the JS when we were in the Prem and has gone on to have a great career at Bayern. And that’s before we remember he found Arnautovic as well, who’s one of the top three strikers I’ve seen play against us in 40 years. Still love arnie to this day, that complete swagger of a player who knows he has it and is allowed to play how he wants. Power, pace, ability, what a player… |
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Post by space hardware on Jun 1, 2024 23:50:13 GMT 1
you’ve got that and then fullkrug on Dortmund side who I’m fairly sure town wanted when he was at Hannover. Yep and Choupo Mouting who was one of the most impressive players I saw at the JS when we were in the Prem and has gone on to have a great career at Bayern. And that’s before we remember he found Arnautovic as well, who’s one of the top three strikers I’ve seen play against us in 40 years. Arnautovic was absolute class the day West Ham beat us 4-1 at home. |
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Post by runner76 on Jun 4, 2024 8:10:29 GMT 1
If Cartwright took Neil’s office when they got rid, will Duff get that big office back or the pokey one managers had since then?…..  |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2024 9:58:27 GMT 1
If Cartwright took Neil’s office when they got rid, will Duff get that big office back or the pokey one managers had since then?…..;) I’m sure you’re saying this tongue in cheek, but if this did happen, it reminds me of the Nationwide advert, with the arse of a CEO talking about his pokey office that’s actually quite palatial. That’s not the sort of behaviour that instils me with confidence TBF, it’s not a socialist thing before anyone starts, but I fecking hate it when people talk in possessive terms, ‘my team’, ‘I did this’ etc. There’s a time and a place for self promotion and taking up residence in a vacant office that you know will soon be occupied smacks of narcissistic tendencies. The acid test for this bloke will be the next 3-6 months. |
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Post by runner76 on Jun 4, 2024 11:18:35 GMT 1
If Cartwright took Neil’s office when they got rid, will Duff get that big office back or the pokey one managers had since then?….. I’m sure you’re saying this tongue in cheek, but if this did happen, it reminds me of the Nationwide advert, with the arse of a CEO talking about his pokey office that’s actually quite palatial. That’s not the sort of behaviour that instils me with confidence TBF, it’s not a socialist thing before anyone starts, but I fecking hate it when people talk in possessive terms, ‘my team’, ‘I did this’ etc. There’s a time and a place for self promotion and taking up residence in a vacant office that you know will soon be occupied smacks of narcissistic tendencies. The acid test for this bloke will be the next 3-6 months. Well, words of Neil Warnock, not me, from that Sun story!........... |
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Post by digs on Jun 4, 2024 12:48:27 GMT 1
If Cartwright took Neil’s office when they got rid, will Duff get that big office back or the pokey one managers had since then?….. Can you imagine Duff telling the players to stand next to the mop and bucket,when they go to see him. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2024 13:29:29 GMT 1
If Cartwright took Neil’s office when they got rid, will Duff get that big office back or the pokey one managers had since then?…..;) Can you imagine Duff telling the players to stand next to the mop and bucket,when they go to see him. They can’t move in that broom cupboard, since they had to stick your world bowling trophy in there. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2024 13:30:03 GMT 1
Why have we always called them broom cupboards? Surely they should be brush cupboards?
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jun 19, 2024 7:58:11 GMT 1
I wonder if Cartwrights little black book he has is literally branded Beswick Sports, would appear so and make sense also.
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Post by Galpharmer on Jun 19, 2024 8:02:00 GMT 1
I wonder if Cartwrights little black book he has is literally branded Beswick Sports, would appear so and make sense also. At least you can look at their website and see who’s likely to be coming next. |
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Post by kimbo999 on Jun 19, 2024 8:24:52 GMT 1
Think a bit too much is made of the beswick thing
Who cares where they are linked to so long as they are good and help us achieve
I'm sure if there was anything dodgy going on Nagle dog would be all over it.
If we have an In to get good players let's use it.
I'll judge him on the type of players we sign, so far not been great but 3 of the ones with bigger reps and price tags have got injuries after they got here.let's see after a pre season then we can all have a cry and a moan.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 19, 2024 9:01:35 GMT 1
Think a bit too much is made of the beswick thing Who cares where they are linked to so long as they are good and help us achieve I'm sure if there was anything dodgy going on Nagle dog would be all over it. If we have an In to get good players let's use it. I'll judge him on the type of players we sign, so far not been great but 3 of the ones with bigger reps and price tags have got injuries after they got here.let's see after a pre season then we can all have a cry and a moan. First Touch are Sorensen's proper agent - the Danish guy named here. They've clearly got a link with Beswicks. The same guy was Billings original agent before he went billy big bollocks. There's not that many big agencies and they all have a lot of links and contacts with each other. It's a you scratch my back I'll scratch yours world. If you're going to constantly look for a link back to Beswicks you're probably going to find it. How about judging whether people are any good when they've started playing rather than just throwing the toys out of the pram about Beswicks! |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 19, 2024 10:02:09 GMT 1
I wonder if Cartwrights little black book he has is literally branded Beswick Sports, would appear so and make sense also. We have literally signed 2 players represented by them. Edwards and Sorenson. I don't really get this mantra fans are using towards them. 2 out of 9 signings are Beswick. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 19, 2024 10:15:28 GMT 1
I wonder if Cartwrights little black book he has is literally branded Beswick Sports, would appear so and make sense also. We have literally signed 2 players represented by them. Edwards and Sorenson. I don't really get this mantra fans are using towards them. 2 out of 9 signings are Beswick. And one of them wasn't even permanent. Funny thing is that from about 2016-2019 about half our squad inc Wagner had the same agent - John Morris at what was then Key Sports. But nobody cared cos we were winning football matches. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jun 19, 2024 10:22:59 GMT 1
I wonder if Cartwrights little black book he has is literally branded Beswick Sports, would appear so and make sense also. We have literally signed 2 players represented by them. Edwards and Sorenson. I don't really get this mantra fans are using towards them. 2 out of 9 signings are Beswick. I just looked at Beswick Sports twitter feed Links to Sorensen, Duff, Martin Paterson (new Assistant Manager) and Sac Republic in the last 25 or so posts! Sorensen Michael Duff Martin Paterson Sac Republic |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jun 19, 2024 10:54:37 GMT 1
We have literally signed 2 players represented by them. Edwards and Sorenson. I don't really get this mantra fans are using towards them. 2 out of 9 signings are Beswick. I just looked at Beswick Sports twitter feed Links to Sorensen, Duff, Martin Paterson (new Assistant Manager) and Sac Republic in the last 25 or so posts! Sorensen Michael Duff Martin Paterson Sac Republic Add Danny Batth and Jay Rodriguez to that list of players we are/were definitely interested in. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jun 19, 2024 11:02:34 GMT 1
We have literally signed 2 players represented by them. Edwards and Sorenson. I don't really get this mantra fans are using towards them. 2 out of 9 signings are Beswick. And one of them wasn't even permanent. Funny thing is that from about 2016-2019 about half our squad inc Wagner had the same agent - John Morris at what was then Key Sports. But nobody cared cos we were winning football matches. That's fine if there's results on the pitch, if not questions are asked. Currently questions are getting asked because Cartwright has shown nothing to suggest he is a good director of football. Helped push Warnock out, appointed Darren Moore (said he would play an attacking brand of football), appointed Breitenreiter and made the club look like we should be in awe of appointing such a name with his press conference remarks and to finalise has made some incredibly average signings so far in his tenure. Therefore when we are signing more players from his agency questions will continue to be asked until they prove to be successful. Especially considering the mess of it he has made so far. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 19, 2024 11:02:41 GMT 1
Think a bit too much is made of the beswick thing Who cares where they are linked to so long as they are good and help us achieve I'm sure if there was anything dodgy going on Nagle dog would be all over it. If we have an In to get good players let's use it. I'll judge him on the type of players we sign, so far not been great but 3 of the ones with bigger reps and price tags have got injuries after they got here.let's see after a pre season then we can all have a cry and a moan. First Touch are Sorensen's proper agent - the Danish guy named here. They've clearly got a link with Beswicks. The same guy was Billings original agent before he went billy big bollocks. There's not that many big agencies and they all have a lot of links and contacts with each other. It's a you scratch my back I'll scratch yours world. If you're going to constantly look for a link back to Beswicks you're probably going to find it. How about judging whether people are any good when they've started playing rather than just throwing the toys out of the pram about Beswicks! In his last two seasons for us Billing had the lowest wage per minutes played out of every player in the Premier League. I think he was justified in wanting more money |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 19, 2024 11:32:54 GMT 1
First Touch are Sorensen's proper agent - the Danish guy named here. They've clearly got a link with Beswicks. The same guy was Billings original agent before he went billy big bollocks. There's not that many big agencies and they all have a lot of links and contacts with each other. It's a you scratch my back I'll scratch yours world. If you're going to constantly look for a link back to Beswicks you're probably going to find it. How about judging whether people are any good when they've started playing rather than just throwing the toys out of the pram about Beswicks! In his last two seasons for us Billing had the lowest wage per minutes played out of every player in the Premier League. I think he was justified in wanting more money He signed a new deal in August 2017. Brokered by his new agents, not First Touch. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 19, 2024 11:35:24 GMT 1
And one of them wasn't even permanent. Funny thing is that from about 2016-2019 about half our squad inc Wagner had the same agent - John Morris at what was then Key Sports. But nobody cared cos we were winning football matches. That's fine if there's results on the pitch, if not questions are asked. Currently questions are getting asked because Cartwright has shown nothing to suggest he is a good director of football. Helped push Warnock out, appointed Darren Moore (said he would play an attacking brand of football), appointed Breitenreiter and made the club look like we should be in awe of appointing such a name with his press conference remarks and to finalise has made some incredibly average signings so far in his tenure. Therefore when we are signing more players from his agency questions will continue to be asked until they prove to be successful. Especially considering the mess of it he has made so far. Hardly any of this has any relevance to the odd player coming via Beswicks though. Cartwright might well be shite, we'll probably know for certain within the next few months but at least beat him with the relevant sticks, not just any. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jun 19, 2024 11:47:39 GMT 1
That's fine if there's results on the pitch, if not questions are asked. Currently questions are getting asked because Cartwright has shown nothing to suggest he is a good director of football. Helped push Warnock out, appointed Darren Moore (said he would play an attacking brand of football), appointed Breitenreiter and made the club look like we should be in awe of appointing such a name with his press conference remarks and to finalise has made some incredibly average signings so far in his tenure. Therefore when we are signing more players from his agency questions will continue to be asked until they prove to be successful. Especially considering the mess of it he has made so far. Hardly any of this has any relevance to the odd player coming via Beswicks though. Cartwright might well be shite, we'll probably know for certain within the next few months but at least beat him with the relevant sticks, not just any. Well it is relevant though isn't it. All its showing currently is that he is incredibly limited, tried to bring in players outside of Beswick failed and now and has to use his own agency to bring in talent again (which was the point/joke of the initial post I made, his black book is basically Beswick Sports). Look he may turn it around and be great, but I think everybody has a right to be sceptical on how things have gone and what the future looks like? Also those in the know around the club appear to think he's a clown (taking the managers office the day after Warnock left) and I trust their judgement. But yes lets wait and see what League one brings. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 19, 2024 11:52:18 GMT 1
I hope after the office refurbishments that Cartwrights stolen managers office is now the shittest.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 19, 2024 12:01:25 GMT 1
Hardly any of this has any relevance to the odd player coming via Beswicks though. Cartwright might well be shite, we'll probably know for certain within the next few months but at least beat him with the relevant sticks, not just any. Well it is relevant though isn't it. All its showing currently is that he is incredibly limited, tried to bring in players outside of Beswick failed and now and has to use his own agency to bring in talent again (which was the point/joke of the initial post I made, his black book is basically Beswick Sports). Look he may turn it around and be great, but I think everybody has a right to be sceptical on how things have gone and what the future looks like? Also those in the know around the club appear to think he's a clown (taking the managers office the day after Warnock left) and I trust their judgement. But yes lets wait and see what League one brings. So 7 of 9 incoming players not being registered to Beswicks is failure and all he's doing is signing beswicks players? Erm... Who are these people? |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 19, 2024 12:06:31 GMT 1
Beswick sports look to have more employees than actual players on their books looking at their website
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Post by goodbet on Jun 19, 2024 13:04:31 GMT 1
Hardly any of this has any relevance to the odd player coming via Beswicks though. Cartwright might well be shite, we'll probably know for certain within the next few months but at least beat him with the relevant sticks, not just any. Well it is relevant though isn't it. All its showing currently is that he is incredibly limited, tried to bring in players outside of Beswick failed and now and has to use his own agency to bring in talent again (which was the point/joke of the initial post I made, his black book is basically Beswick Sports). Look he may turn it around and be great, but I think everybody has a right to be sceptical on how things have gone and what the future looks like? Also those in the know around the club appear to think he's a clown (taking the managers office the day after Warnock left) and I trust their judgement. But yes lets wait and see what League one brings. Up to press he has been rubbish. He now has brought a team in under him and with Duff's assistance we may make a decent shout out of this window. We all hope so anyway. |
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