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Post by goodbet on Sept 2, 2024 20:35:29 GMT 1
As far as I am aware both came with injury records. How many games has Radulovic played for us since signing. You would have thought we might have learned from past experience of signing players with a history of injuries. Think we're in a problem position when it comes to signings. We want a certain quality but we dont have the money to get the ideal ones we want...so we take a risk on players who have shown the right quality but come with a caveat..that they are potentially going to be injured a lot. You can get lucky and sign a bargain whos fit every week, or you can be unlucky and sign someone whos barely ever on the pitch...Balker springs to mind,,,clearly a great player but will he ever play enough? We will take the advice of our medical people when working out if its a gamble worth taking. Are the injuries Bojan and healey out with the same injuries they had before coming here? Is balkers? If theyre different injures its likely weve just been unlucky. edit..just seen townians post and seems neither were regularly injured prior to coming here. Seems like weve been unlucky with those two strikers then. Hopefully when. theyre back, they'll stay back. We have been buying players on a wing and a Prayer since our premiership days and it is why we seem to have so many players with injury problems. That is we also have a number of older players and generally they are more prone to injuries. We have also been unlucky for a number years as well. |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 2, 2024 20:57:05 GMT 1
I don't think we're geared up enough for an auto promotion this year, maybe not even a playoff place. This doesn't actually feel like a concerted push from the club. There's plenty of other stuff going with the Stadium etc which is sucking cash and time out of KN. I think the club would be happy just to stabilise things this season, and besides that to compete in the Championship would need a major recruitment of new squad of players. and that will cost £m's...the squad we have now would not survive in the Championship..that's already clear. Fans who are expecting us to go straight back up are, I'm afraid, going to be disappointed., and need to temper their ambitions to avoid getting too frustrated.. I'm not being a doom monger, or having a go at anyone..but looking at what I think is the reality given where we are. The club won't admit this of course,but by xmas I think we'll be getting messages about summer 2025 being the time to recruit for a promotion push. I think this too... Especially when you look at the then out of contract players, which I think would contain...Hogg, Lees, Pearson, Ward, Helik, Koroma, Kasumu, Headley, Turton, Ruffels, Maxwell, Ayina & High...and by then players like Spencer, Wiles, Healey, Nicholls, will have just 1 year left. Thats some relatively big wages coming out of the club and a real opportunity for an actual reset. The challenge though is that big proportions of that list are players we already sort of have to play...its going to be very difficult to magic up 8 players coming in as starters who collectively are better (assuming we want promotion in 25/26), given we've shown how difficult it is already to do that with just 2 or 3 positions to fill this summer. There's a collective fingers crossed going on at the moment I reckon - its going to be difficult enough to rebuild the defence next summer without having to finish the job we've possibly failed to do elsewhere as well...hopefully as this season progresses, Iorpenda, Kane, Sorensen, Miller, & Healey show, or continue to show, their value, as having them as reliable 1st teamers makes the rebuild slightly less onerous across the full XI. We were told by some on here that we had to give Cartwright more time after the summer 2023 window. Last January did not help us stay in the Championship one little bit, but it was called the best window ever by some. This summer brought in new faces and we have to hope that they will bed in and performances will improve. Being told that we will get a reset in 2025 will only impress those who want to believe that the sun will come out tomorrow. How many of those who are out of contract would we want to resign. For me only Koroma and Helik depending on the form this season and how much it would take to keep them. |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Sept 2, 2024 21:08:52 GMT 1
Unfortunately it would seem that not finally getting a striker was just too much like hard work and trouble. If they really, really wanted one then I am certain they could have got one. It is not as if they didn't have the time. I suspect that they thought Healey and Raduluvic were going to make it and their injury situation has thrown them a bit. Both were available when Alfie May's transfer fell through and it could have been that they thought oh well we have those two with Ward and Koroma everything will be fine. Problem was the we could all see that these players were not reliable enough to base the first half of the season on and Ward too has been notoriously unreliable since Warnock left. It has led again to something similar to last season when Moore was left with the bare bones up front as we did not recruit last summer. Moreover, Duff has brought in a brand new style of play which has led to some of our better players struggling to meet the demands of it. The situation may improve if those two players in particular can get match fit and the system becomes embedded properly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2024 21:38:07 GMT 1
Unfortunately it would seem that not finally getting a striker was just too much like hard work and trouble. If they really, really wanted one then I am certain they could have got one. It is not as if they didn't have the time. I suspect that they thought Healey and Raduluvic were going to make it and their injury situation has thrown them a bit. Both were available when Alfie May's transfer fell through and it could have been that they thought oh well we have those two with Ward and Koroma everything will be fine. Problem was the we could all see that these players were not reliable enough to base the first half of the season on and Ward too has been notoriously unreliable since Warnock left. It has led again to something similar to last season when Moore was left with the bare bones up front as we did not recruit last summer. Moreover, Duff has brought in a brand new style of play which has led to some of our better players struggling to meet the demands of it. The situation may improve if those two players in particular can get match fit and the system becomes embedded properly. Apart from the fact that we did sign a striker 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2024 14:42:19 GMT 1
Unfortunately it would seem that not finally getting a striker was just too much like hard work and trouble. If they really, really wanted one then I am certain they could have got one. It is not as if they didn't have the time. I suspect that they thought Healey and Raduluvic were going to make it and their injury situation has thrown them a bit. Both were available when Alfie May's transfer fell through and it could have been that they thought oh well we have those two with Ward and Koroma everything will be fine. Problem was the we could all see that these players were not reliable enough to base the first half of the season on and Ward too has been notoriously unreliable since Warnock left. It has led again to something similar to last season when Moore was left with the bare bones up front as we did not recruit last summer. Moreover, Duff has brought in a brand new style of play which has led to some of our better players struggling to meet the demands of it. The situation may improve if those two players in particular can get match fit and the system becomes embedded properly. Apart from the fact that we did sign a striker 😂 And, it sounds like, missed a very good one at this level on a bad roll of the dice, that is Luton not getting whoever they wanted. If you want the right player maybe sometimes you have to take a gamble. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 3, 2024 19:09:58 GMT 1
Apart from the fact that we did sign a striker 😂 And, it sounds like, missed a very good one at this level on a bad roll of the dice, that is Luton not getting whoever they wanted. If you want the right player maybe sometimes you have to take a gamble. Not really interested in excuses. Fact is they failed to bring in an appropriate striker, a vital position, for the third window in succession. |
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 3, 2024 21:03:27 GMT 1
No excuses
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Sept 3, 2024 21:24:35 GMT 1
I do understand a lot can fall on the likes of Cartwright. I do think he's brought some good players in but, but I am starting to question his little black book of contacts so to speak. However, it isn't MC that steps across the white painted line and kicks a ball for Huddersfield Town. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 24, 2024 20:42:12 GMT 1
At what point does this guy get moved on? Recruiting managers to systems that we don’t have the players for and then bringing inadequate reinforcements to play said system.
Enough is enough now surely.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 24, 2024 20:42:55 GMT 1
P.45 incoming.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Sept 24, 2024 22:37:29 GMT 1
Yorkshire folk in general have a good sense of character & can weigh folk up.
We were right!
Bullshiter on thee bike cock!
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 25, 2024 7:24:03 GMT 1
Stoke fans said he was a chancer. They were right.
His recruitment of both players and managers has been truly awful. How Nagle cannot see that is beyond me.
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Post by irverino on Sept 25, 2024 7:49:47 GMT 1
At what point does this guy get moved on? Recruiting managers to systems that we don’t have the players for and then bringing inadequate reinforcements to play said system. Enough is enough now surely. ........DM appointment was the beginning of the end for many, coming days after sacking a manager who we knew would keep us in the Championship. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 25, 2024 8:25:31 GMT 1
He has to go and I’d do it now - might not send the best message to the players and manager we've just signed but I don’t see a better alternative. I struggle to see what his strategy is - for a playing style of the club or the type of playing staff we need.
No leaders, no winners, no athleticism through the team. The players are ‘nice’ - Warnock said that when he arrived, we’re about 3 transfer windows later and it’s still the same.
We’ve spent much more money in the summer than Blackpool I’d imagine, yet they seem to have players with the right attributes for each position and looked much stronger. Bet they won 95% of defensive headers/tackles.
We’ve gone all in on 3-5-2 leaving ourselves without a right winger and therefore a Plan B - either for Duff or another manager if he proves not up to it. Completely negligent.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 25, 2024 11:44:32 GMT 1
He has to go and I’d do it now - might not send the best message to the players and manager we've just signed but I don’t see a better alternative. I struggle to see what his strategy is - for a playing style of the club or the type of playing staff we need. No leaders, no winners, no athleticism through the team. The players are ‘nice’ - Warnock said that when he arrived, we’re about 3 transfer windows later and it’s still the same. We’ve spent much more money in the summer than Blackpool I’d imagine, yet they seem to have players with the right attributes for each position and looked much stronger. Bet they won 95% of defensive headers/tackles. We’ve gone all in on 3-5-2 leaving ourselves without a right winger and therefore a Plan B - either for Duff or another manager if he proves not up to it. Completely negligent. The only point I can argue with is that we probably spent a -ve figure as we will have received more money in than spent. |
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Post by ram on Sept 25, 2024 12:10:44 GMT 1
And the above is all Nagle seems to care about
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Post by SacTown on Sept 25, 2024 12:30:20 GMT 1
He has to go and I’d do it now - might not send the best message to the players and manager we've just signed but I don’t see a better alternative. I struggle to see what his strategy is - for a playing style of the club or the type of playing staff we need. No leaders, no winners, no athleticism through the team. The players are ‘nice’ - Warnock said that when he arrived, we’re about 3 transfer windows later and it’s still the same. We’ve spent much more money in the summer than Blackpool I’d imagine, yet they seem to have players with the right attributes for each position and looked much stronger. Bet they won 95% of defensive headers/tackles. We’ve gone all in on 3-5-2 leaving ourselves without a right winger and therefore a Plan B - either for Duff or another manager if he proves not up to it. Completely negligent. The only point I can argue with is that we probably spent a -ve figure as we will have received more money in than spent. And guess who get rewarded for that ?? |
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Post by terrier86 on Sept 26, 2024 11:55:20 GMT 1
A big issue in the team is lack of real pace and summer signings didn't add much pace either.
Down the spine.
Lees, Helik, Pearson - all pretty slow.
Hogg, Hodge, Wiles, Evans, Kane - again not much, I like zhodge and Kane but you need willing runners round them.
Healey, Koroma, Radulovic, Ward, Ladapo - Koroma has a bit of pace, other than that not much.
We needs more legs in the team badly.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Sept 26, 2024 18:50:47 GMT 1
A big issue in the team is lack of real pace and summer signings didn't add much pace either. Down the spine. Lees, Helik, Pearson - all pretty slow. Hogg, Hodge, Wiles, Evans, Kane - again not much, I like zhodge and Kane but you need willing runners round them. Healey, Koroma, Radulovic, Ward, Ladapo - Koroma has a bit of pace, other than that not much. We needs more legs in the team badly. Mentioned something similar to this over in the Duff thread. Of our usual match day squad (barring injury) we have perennial under performers and those who are in the habit of losing within our team. (Not to bash them individually, but collectively you can't carry this many). Especially as injuries and age have caught up to most of them. Nicholls (Keep), Lees, Pearson, Turton, Ruffels, Headley (Keep), Hogg, Kasuma (Keep), Koroma (Keep), Ward. Of that list most are a yard or 2 slower if not more than what they were 2-3 years ago. We were promised a full reset. Instead we got a half a job. Any decent DoF and team, would have identified the urgency to bring in pace, physicality and dynamism into our squad. Yet, those who offered us that (rightfully or wrongfully based on ability, performances and/or "attitude") we parted ways with in the summer. Now leading once again for us to be playing catch up in January and next Summer, when the longer we continue with that, the more toxic the fanbase is (we're negative regardless for the most part. I think thats down to years of frustration and us seeing the club make the same mistakes time and time again) and the less appealing playing for Huddersfield Town becomes, meaning the talent pool we can select from once again becomes smaller and smaller, and with less ability. We have to part ways with Mark Cartwright, who I believe is the root problem for us. He's a chancer, and I think he's pulled a fast one over Kevin Nagle, and Jake Edwards and Co. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2024 20:13:27 GMT 1
9 of the 15 players that disgraced the shirt on Tuesday were all Cartwright signings.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Sept 26, 2024 20:25:31 GMT 1
9 of the 15 players that disgraced the shirt on Tuesday were all Cartwright signings. He can’t be given another window surely!? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2024 20:36:15 GMT 1
9 of the 15 players that disgraced the shirt on Tuesday were all Cartwright signings. He can’t be given another window surely!? I'm stunned he was allowed to oversee the last one. If you need to re interview for your position after 12 months then it's not gone well, has it? |
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Post by waggers on Sept 26, 2024 20:40:59 GMT 1
He can’t be given another window surely!? I'm stunned he was allowed to oversee the last one. If you need to re interview for your position after 12 months then it's not gone well, has it? Yeah I'm baffled he still has a job. What excuses did he have? I'm surprised a successful bloke like Nagle hasn't gotten rid and had a fresh start. |
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Post by isitjustme on Sept 26, 2024 20:44:44 GMT 1
I'm stunned he was allowed to oversee the last one. If you need to re interview for your position after 12 months then it's not gone well, has it? Yeah I'm baffled he still has a job. What excuses did he have? I'm surprised a successful bloke like Nagle hasn't gotten rid and had a fresh start. Guessing Nagle hasn't got a clue where to find a good replacement.....!!! |
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Post by ldr on Sept 26, 2024 20:52:00 GMT 1
Yeah I'm baffled he still has a job. What excuses did he have? I'm surprised a successful bloke like Nagle hasn't gotten rid and had a fresh start. Guessing Nagle hasn't got a clue where to find a good replacement.....!!! Stoke City? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2024 20:53:41 GMT 1
I'm stunned he was allowed to oversee the last one. If you need to re interview for your position after 12 months then it's not gone well, has it? Yeah I'm baffled he still has a job. What excuses did he have? I'm surprised a successful bloke like Nagle hasn't gotten rid and had a fresh start. Nagle is a professional at pouring honey in people's ears but Cartwright played him at his own game and won. |
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 26, 2024 21:15:34 GMT 1
I'm stunned he was allowed to oversee the last one. If you need to re interview for your position after 12 months then it's not gone well, has it? Yeah I'm baffled he still has a job. What excuses did he have?I'm surprised a successful bloke like Nagle hasn't gotten rid and had a fresh start. I presume he said it was all Warnock's fault. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Sept 26, 2024 22:27:00 GMT 1
Yeah I'm baffled he still has a job. What excuses did he have?I'm surprised a successful bloke like Nagle hasn't gotten rid and had a fresh start. I presume he said it was all Warnock's fault. That pre season in Cornwall has a lot to answer for 😂😂😂 Just like it did in the summer of 2017 when Cardiff went on to promotion. Muppets |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Sept 26, 2024 22:40:54 GMT 1
He has to go and I’d do it now - might not send the best message to the players and manager we've just signed but I don’t see a better alternative. I struggle to see what his strategy is - for a playing style of the club or the type of playing staff we need. No leaders, no winners, no athleticism through the team. The players are ‘nice’ - Warnock said that when he arrived, we’re about 3 transfer windows later and it’s still the same. We’ve spent much more money in the summer than Blackpool I’d imagine, yet they seem to have players with the right attributes for each position and looked much stronger. Bet they won 95% of defensive headers/tackles. We’ve gone all in on 3-5-2 leaving ourselves without a right winger and therefore a Plan B - either for Duff or another manager if he proves not up to it. Completely negligent. The only point I can argue with is that we probably spent a -ve figure as we will have received more money in than spent. Stadium looks nice tho 🤔🤯🫣 |
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Post by irverino on Sept 27, 2024 8:19:33 GMT 1
Yeah I'm baffled he still has a job. What excuses did he have? I'm surprised a successful bloke like Nagle hasn't gotten rid and had a fresh start. Nagle is a professional at pouring honey in people's ears but Cartwright played him at his own game and won. Who does KN turn too for advice to replace him? Dean will have Stuart Webbers number & if he's not interested then he could possibly suggest a few names that we could approach........Kev's blinded faith in his DoF/SD seems bizarre from a successful business man, does he really think MC is doing a great job? |
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