Cartwright.

[araucaria]

Nov 8, 2024 15:37:27 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

I think the biggest challenge off the field has been the whole shared Stadium business. This has been a "thing" since the 90's

It may be circumstantial but you have to credit Nagle and Edwards as the two who have got a deal done by the looks

So whatever changes KN made behind the scene to his top team. The simple fact that the football club is now getting full control of the Stadium is quite the achievement and something the previous owners and there senior leadership teams simple weren't able to achieve

The credit for getting Kirklees Council to part with its 40% share is entirely due to the outgoing Government that stripped it of the resources to carry on.

[mallyb]

Nov 8, 2024 18:19:29 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Nov 8, 2024 15:37:27 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

I think the biggest challenge off the field has been the whole shared Stadium business. This has been a "thing" since the 90's

It may be circumstantial but you have to credit Nagle and Edwards as the two who have got a deal done by the looks

So whatever changes KN made behind the scene to his top team. The simple fact that the football club is now getting full control of the Stadium is quite the achievement and something the previous owners and there senior leadership teams simple weren't able to achieve

The credit for getting Kirklees Council to part with its 40% share is entirely due to the outgoing Government that stripped it of the resources to carry on.

Or the unions for creating a situation where dinner ladies were the same skill level as binmen etc. so needed backdated pay rises for 30 years. A situation that is completely false but has nearly bankrupted councils up and down the country. Or the councils fault for killing Huddersfield as a Town to visit for shopping so every main retailer has left the Town Centre losing rent and rate incomes. But it doesn't matter what the facts are, anything good will be to the councils credit and anything bad is the Tories with some people.

[araucaria]

Nov 8, 2024 18:44:44 GMT 1 mallyb said:

Nov 8, 2024 18:19:29 GMT 1 araucaria said:

The credit for getting Kirklees Council to part with its 40% share is entirely due to the outgoing Government that stripped it of the resources to carry on.

Or the unions for creating a situation where dinner ladies were the same skill level as binmen etc. so needed backdated pay rises for 30 years. A situation that is completely false but has nearly bankrupted councils up and down the country. Or the councils fault for killing Huddersfield as a Town to visit for shopping so every main retailer has left the Town Centre losing rent and rate incomes. But it doesn't matter what the facts are, anything good will be to the councils credit and anything bad is the Tories with some people.

Councils have been bankrupted by the outgoing Government over a period of 14 years. Kirklees Council no longer has any funds to spend on the Stadium because it has to focus on its statutory duties, for example Adult Social Care, for which it barely has the funds.

[mosher]

Nov 8, 2024 19:00:55 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Nov 8, 2024 18:44:44 GMT 1 mallyb said:

Or the unions for creating a situation where dinner ladies were the same skill level as binmen etc. so needed backdated pay rises for 30 years. A situation that is completely false but has nearly bankrupted councils up and down the country. Or the councils fault for killing Huddersfield as a Town to visit for shopping so every main retailer has left the Town Centre losing rent and rate incomes. But it doesn't matter what the facts are, anything good will be to the councils credit and anything bad is the Tories with some people.

Councils have been bankrupted by the outgoing Government over a period of 14 years. Kirklees Council no longer has any funds to spend on the Stadium because it has to focus on its statutory duties, for example Adult Social Care, for which it barely has the funds.

Agree in part but they sure do waste a lot of cash on shit they don’t need and waste it on shit vanity projects too

[Niggled]

They are spending millions on the George hotel , to hand it over to Raddison .

[araucaria]

Nov 8, 2024 19:09:39 GMT 1 mosher said:

Nov 8, 2024 19:00:55 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Councils have been bankrupted by the outgoing Government over a period of 14 years. Kirklees Council no longer has any funds to spend on the Stadium because it has to focus on its statutory duties, for example Adult Social Care, for which it barely has the funds.

Agree in part but they sure do waste a lot of cash on shit they don’t need and waste it on shit vanity projects too

The only waste might be in respect of capital expenditure, Mosh, which can only be spent on one-off projects, vanity or otherwise and which impacts on Council Tax via the financing charges (over typically a period of 25 years, like mortgage payments) associated with that capital spending. Revenue is for day-to-day service provision and believe me they have had no room for manoeuvre on this for several years: it's been 14 years of cuts and with more to come. Capital spent on building the Stadium in the first place was not at the expense of Council services other than funding the associated debt charges.

I accept that the simple counter-argument, that the Council has somehow brought this on itself - along with practically every other Council in the country - has more appeal than the reality of the last 14 years of local government finance. And I apologise for starting this off, on a football website, because obviously no-one in their right mind should care a shit about how councils are funded.

[mosher]

Nov 8, 2024 19:55:58 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Nov 8, 2024 19:09:39 GMT 1 mosher said:

Agree in part but they sure do waste a lot of cash on shit they don’t need and waste it on shit vanity projects too

The only waste might be in respect of capital expenditure, Mosh, which can only be spent on one-off projects, vanity or otherwise and which impacts on Council Tax via the financing charges (over typically a period of 25 years, like mortgage payments) associated with that capital spending. Revenue is for day-to-day service provision and believe me they have had no room for manoeuvre on this for several years: it's been 14 years of cuts and with more to come. Capital spent on building the Stadium in the first place was not at the expense of Council services other than funding the associated debt charges.

I accept that the simple counter-argument, that the Council has somehow brought this on itself - along with practically every other Council in the country - has more appeal than the reality of the last 14 years of local government finance. And I apologise for starting this off, on a football website, because obviously no-one in their right mind should care a shit about how councils are funded.

Oh yeah I’m not arguing Tory cuts haven’t helped create a problem, but when a council spends £200k on art for their offices the sympathy diminishes somewhat

I know £200k isn’t much in the grand scheme of things but extrapolate that and it soon adds up

[Convictatthemac]

Back to Cartwright, with 7.5 weeks until the January window opens, I can’t imagine we will be sacking him now.

Who would we bring in? I don’t think we’d be able to get anyone who is in work because they’d have a notice period. So that would leave us looking at bringing in someone who is out of work, would there really be a decent appointment out of work at the moment?

I hate to say it, KN hasn’t moved him on, so we are either stuck with him for January or we will be doing it without a director of football and with no experience in the club in this area. Either way, dire options.

[ram]

According to Kev, Cartwright is the next coming of Christ!

[goodbet]

Nov 9, 2024 5:01:20 GMT 1 Convictatthemac said:

Back to Cartwright, with 7.5 weeks until the January window opens, I can’t imagine we will be sacking him now.

Who would we bring in? I don’t think we’d be able to get anyone who is in work because they’d have a notice period. So that would leave us looking at bringing in someone who is out of work, would there really be a decent appointment out of work at the moment?

I hate to say it, KN hasn’t moved him on, so we are either stuck with him for January or we will be doing it without a director of football and with no experience in the club in this area. Either way, dire options.

Based on performance we would be better off with drawing straws.

[htfcterry]

Nov 6, 2024 15:51:54 GMT 1 Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) said:

Nov 6, 2024 15:34:18 GMT 1 htfcterry said:

He wants sacking either way off the back of the Ladapo signing.

He's either been honest and kept tabs on him all summer and brought him in thinking hes a good striker, which is good enough for a sacking.. Or he's lied and it's a desperate risk to get a striker in, in which case he also needs sacking for.

totally agree. He's either a total mug or is taking us all for total mugs. Never trust a fat, bald, beardy man

What do you know, the player they had watched all summer can't even get a look in against a team who are struggling.

[Wingman]

So we even need a Sporting Director? Or a Director of Football? Surely any manager worth his wage would have a nose for players they want and direct the scouts to seek them out. The DofF role just seems to be a pumped up scouting role to me. I could be wrong, often am, but this is how I see it.

[conman]

Nov 9, 2024 11:10:20 GMT 1 ram said:

According to Kev, Cartwright is the next coming of Christ!

That means we'll be well shut of him come the good Friday game next April then . But we'll only have two days to get a replacement in before his resurrection from the dugout during the Easter Monday game..

[Dan]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[htfcterry]

Nov 9, 2024 15:49:29 GMT 1 Dan said:

🤷🏻‍♂️

You must have been waiting ages for that 😂😂

[Tinpot]

Nov 9, 2024 11:10:20 GMT 1 ram said:

According to Kev, Cartwright is the next coming of Christ!

Plenty of people want to crucify him!

[goodbet]

Nov 9, 2024 18:48:52 GMT 1 Tinpot said:

Nov 9, 2024 11:10:20 GMT 1 ram said:

According to Kev, Cartwright is the next coming of Christ!

Plenty of people want to crucify him!

That takes too long we want him done NOW!

[Richard1986]

Nov 9, 2024 5:01:20 GMT 1 Convictatthemac said:

Back to Cartwright, with 7.5 weeks until the January window opens, I can’t imagine we will be sacking him now.

Who would we bring in? I don’t think we’d be able to get anyone who is in work because they’d have a notice period. So that would leave us looking at bringing in someone who is out of work, would there really be a decent appointment out of work at the moment?

I hate to say it, KN hasn’t moved him on, so we are either stuck with him for January or we will be doing it without a director of football and with no experience in the club in this area. Either way, dire options.

I’m all for giving the team and manager support but losing at Tamworth and dropping points against Crawley really isn’t good enough.

Birmingham are giving a good go at it and that’s the level we should be on.

This Cartwright character really needs to pull his finger out.

[rockwall]

Kev... we know you read this.

Surely a man of your intelligence can see that MC is the issue.
He can drip feed all his analysis drivel into you, but that is how he still gets a gig.

He can talk the talk.
But he is an absolute car crash delivering that talk.

Yet again, we are dour to watch. Lots losing interest again. But what do you expect when there is zero entertainment. You want us to be loud as fans... get a rocket up the management and players to provide the entertainment for that to happen. They are living the dream to some of us. Most of us would die for this club if we played for them.
You really will struggle to sell SC next season if you plan on upping the price and keep this 2nd hand car salesman in charge.

If Beswick is the issue... fuck them off too.

[Galpharmer]

Cartwright had to reinterview for his job. Only problem is the guy doing the interviewing knows fuck all about football. Anybody bar the yank can see that he talks the talk, but he’s nothing more than a car salesman with shit contacts.

[Sio]

Nov 10, 2024 11:31:52 GMT 1 Galpharmer said:

Cartwright had to reinterview for his job. Only problem is the guy doing the interviewing knows fuck all about football. Anybody bar the yank can see that he talks the talk, but he’s nothing more than a car salesman with shit contacts.

Not even convinced this would've happened. Easy way to shut everyone up for a few months. 

[royrace]

Nov 10, 2024 11:31:52 GMT 1 Galpharmer said:

Cartwright had to reinterview for his job. Only problem is the guy doing the interviewing knows fuck all about football. Anybody bar the yank can see that he talks the talk, but he’s nothing more than a car salesman with shit contacts.

To be fair he's played an absolute blinder if he's managed to spin last season into a positive in said interview. Bravo.

[Sio]

Nov 10, 2024 11:36:57 GMT 1 royrace said:

Nov 10, 2024 11:31:52 GMT 1 Galpharmer said:

Cartwright had to reinterview for his job. Only problem is the guy doing the interviewing knows fuck all about football. Anybody bar the yank can see that he talks the talk, but he’s nothing more than a car salesman with shit contacts.

To be fair he's played an absolute blinder if he's managed to spin last season into a positive in said interview. Bravo.

Over summer didn't he say we're actually in a better position as a club than we were last year?

I sort of understand the logic he's going for (infrastructure etc), but it shows the level in which he'll try to spin things. He'll have an incredibly easy job convincing Kev. 

[incognito]

Nov 10, 2024 11:34:24 GMT 1 Sio said:

Nov 10, 2024 11:31:52 GMT 1 Galpharmer said:

Cartwright had to reinterview for his job. Only problem is the guy doing the interviewing knows fuck all about football. Anybody bar the yank can see that he talks the talk, but he’s nothing more than a car salesman with shit contacts.

Not even convinced this would've happened. Easy way to shut everyone up for a few months. 

More likely KN was referring to his annual performance appraisal and it got lost in translation.

Certainly captured some supporters' imaginations either way...

[Yuta be a terrier]

The problem now is that KN and Carmichael Dave think blaming Cartwright is now some sort of joke. Threads like this are probably not even taken seriously and sadly the only way KN will realise how much of a charlatan he has running the football operations is by the huge amounts of money that will be wasted in the months to come.

You would think after the fans correctly called all of the various mistakes by the club over the last 3 years that perhaps they are right again about Mark Cartwright, wouldn’t you!?

[nickhtafc82]

At some point, KN will not abide the wasting of transfer funds and he'll finally smell the roses. Ok the summer was covered by Rudonis fee quite comfortably, but we all know how much we spent last Jan (circa) and if this JAN is equally unsuccessful, Cartwright won't survive to screw up another window.

Money talks, we all know that.

I can't abide him, not that my opinion matters in the scheme of things.

[ram]

As long as this bloke is in charge of recruitment,Huddersfield Town will be in Div.1 {or lower} ad infinitum!

[bells ringing :)]

Nov 10, 2024 20:52:34 GMT 1 Yuta be a terrier said:

The problem now is that KN and Carmichael Dave think blaming Cartwright is now some sort of joke. Threads like this are probably not even taken seriously and sadly the only way KN will realise how much of a charlatan he has running the football operations is by the huge amounts of money that will be wasted in the months to come.

You would think after the fans correctly called all of the various mistakes by the club over the last 3 years that perhaps they are right again about Mark Cartwright, wouldn’t you!?

This is the problem, that KN and CD are showing a little bit of
immaturity and being naive at running a football club. I say this because making a joke out of the situation is stupid at best, as it seems to be a way of down playing the situation and showing that they think all fans who think Cartwright should go are stupid. If your reading this KN or CD or both . Then understand under Cartwright "guidence" this club is going nowhere and it will just cost you more money to put it right . If you think he is doing a "great job" then you really should not be running a football club  at all. O and never ever take us fans as fools and make jokes about something that is simply a fact, Cartwright has to GO . This chap who is doing a "great job" come on then you two tell us what he is doing so well??

[fredcarno1]

Nov 11, 2024 11:31:11 GMT 1 ram said:

As long as this bloke is in charge of recruitment,Huddersfield Town will be in Div.1 {or lower} ad infinitum!

This 100%, let’s not forget after overseeing one of the most piss poor seasons in recent memory the bloke instead of being contrite and apologising actually stated we were in a better position for it !! Has everyone who is eagerly anticipating January suffered amnesia and forgot last January ? The evidence up to press doesn’t point to a a big improvement in the squad in January. The evidence on the recruitment is staring us in the face.

Radulovic - Abosloutely pathetic signing, a million quid we might as well have set fire to.
Ladapo - Panic buy, absolute cart horse. ‘Tracking him all summer’ FFS.
Sorensen - really good in patches early on, dropped off of late and can’t defend for toffee.
Balker - crock
Healey - big underlying injury issues
Evans - ok in small patches but can’t get a game
Miller - comfortably best of the bunch
Wiles - Bought as a Championship player but miles off that level.

Then you look at the managerial appointments

Getting rid of Warnock 7 games into the season - madness
Replacing him with Darren Moore - awful appointment
Breitenreiter - wrong time for a manager like that, another clanger.
Duff - jury still out for me, decent bloke but the football is in the main utterly drab and uninspiring.

Probably missed some off but the body of evidence of Cartwright’s work up to press doesn’t fill me with hope for January. I really like Nagle but, I fear it will be a load more of the owners money thrown down the toilet.

[The Sheriff Strikes Back]

What gets me, is just what did KN or JE see in this guy to appoint him, when his track record at Stoke (a club in many ways comparable to ours) was one of abject failure?