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Post by Porrohman on Jan 21, 2024 14:20:16 GMT 1
I think NW showed that under the right manager he can really excel but under Darren Bore he's another that has regressed this season. He’s not regressed, before his injury he was playing well, but don’t let him being out for 2 months get in the way of another dig at Moore. Take a day off. He's been in the top 2 performers for last season and this, he's on his way back from injury and has had a couple of poor games. He'll be back on song, soon.
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Post by Tiro on Jan 21, 2024 14:36:58 GMT 1
He’s not regressed, before his injury he was playing well, but don’t let him being out for 2 months get in the way of another dig at Moore. Take a day off. I really like Rudoni but would struggle to tell you where he is playing, or supposed to be playing, in the current system. I wouldn’t say he’s regressed but he looks a little lost presently. It’s just another example of not getting the best from a player by playing them out of position. I think we all struggle to define his role in the current set-up. But asking him to play the LOB role of linking the left restricts him. Let the lad roam, link the centre of the park, get him further forward.
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Post by E4b on Jan 21, 2024 14:53:40 GMT 1
Cost us 4 points in the last 2 games alone with 2 glaring misses. Needs to get some confidence from somewhere soon.
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 21, 2024 15:15:50 GMT 1
Cost us 4 points in the last 2 games alone with 2 glaring misses. Needs to get some confidence from somewhere soon. Genuine question, I saw someone else mentioned it as well, but what was his glaring miss against Plymouth?
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Post by rugbyterrier on Jan 21, 2024 15:23:42 GMT 1
Cost us 4 points in the last 2 games alone with 2 glaring misses. Needs to get some confidence from somewhere soon. Genuine question, I saw someone else mentioned it as well, but what was his glaring miss against Plymouth? Header near end of game
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 21, 2024 15:25:10 GMT 1
Cost us 4 points in the last 2 games alone with 2 glaring misses. Needs to get some confidence from somewhere soon. Genuine question, I saw someone else mentioned it as well, but what was his glaring miss against Plymouth? He had a header than went fractionally wide but Danny Wards biggest fan only ever slags Jack off anyway
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 21, 2024 15:55:49 GMT 1
Genuine question, I saw someone else mentioned it as well, but what was his glaring miss against Plymouth? Header near end of game Was a chance but wouldn’t call it a “glaring miss”.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Jan 21, 2024 15:59:35 GMT 1
Was a chance but wouldn’t call it a “glaring miss”. it’d be called a glaring miss with certain players. Rudoni gets a lot of leeway
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Post by boooothy on Jan 21, 2024 17:27:31 GMT 1
What position was Kevin referring to where we are looking to recruit? Seems bonkers spending millions when we don’t even know who will be in charge at the end of the window but that’s the daft position we’ve put ourselves in.
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Post by sonny on Jan 21, 2024 17:54:34 GMT 1
We're desperate for a central midfielder who can actually show some composure on the ball and use it well. Hoped Matos might be exactly that but he isn't.
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Post by crux on Jan 21, 2024 17:58:01 GMT 1
What position was Kevin referring to where we are looking to recruit? Seems bonkers spending millions when we don’t even know who will be in charge at the end of the window but that’s the daft position we’ve put ourselves in. Hopefully manager 😉🤞
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 21, 2024 18:05:59 GMT 1
What position was Kevin referring to where we are looking to recruit? Seems bonkers spending millions when we don’t even know who will be in charge at the end of the window but that’s the daft position we’ve put ourselves in. Don’t suppose it matters too much who’s in charge if we’re using a director of football? How much input is DM having in the signings we’re making?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jan 21, 2024 18:12:48 GMT 1
What position was Kevin referring to where we are looking to recruit? Seems bonkers spending millions when we don’t even know who will be in charge at the end of the window but that’s the daft position we’ve put ourselves in. Don’t suppose it matters too much who’s in charge if we’re using a director of football? How much input is DM having in the signings we’re making? Doesn’t sound like he has much influence although on a Steve Chicken podcast, Cartwright was adamant the manager had the final say on the target list
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Post by boooothy on Jan 21, 2024 18:27:25 GMT 1
What position was Kevin referring to where we are looking to recruit? Seems bonkers spending millions when we don’t even know who will be in charge at the end of the window but that’s the daft position we’ve put ourselves in. Don’t suppose it matters too much who’s in charge if we’re using a director of football? How much input is DM having in the signings we’re making? Agreed but take these 2 strikers we’ve just signed. Healey has just forced a move away from Watford after 6 months on the bench but still getting minutes as he wants to be a regular. Bojan looks more impressive so far. So fair to assume they both expect to start. Moore is in the minority playing 2 strikers (even when we had none). They won’t be his players but you still recruit to positions. If you play 5 at the back you sign wingbacks, 4 at the back you sign full backs.
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Post by dezzly on Jan 21, 2024 18:55:48 GMT 1
Don’t suppose it matters too much who’s in charge if we’re using a director of football? How much input is DM having in the signings we’re making? Doesn’t sound like he has much influence although on a Steve Chicken podcast, Cartwright was adamant the manager had the final say on the target list Surely it’s an overall assessment of positions between manager and recruitment team.But manager probably drives that to an extent as he will know his preferred shape. Then players will be identified and presumably that manager has final say as to whether he wants a certain player or not. On the 3-5-2 the squad has been so unbalanced it kind of suited to an extent(we didn’t really have full backs,certainly not a right back) and it got 2 strikers on the pitch,problem being until very recently we’ve had no quality strikers.Playing the two strikers now we have them now doesn’t suit sorba or koroma,although sorba is decent at wing back. Playing the 3 at the back(when it was actually a five) wasn’t too bad as wide areas were protected,since moving to 3 with 5 in front(and we have done that despite folk still saying we’re playing 5 at the back) has opened us up to weakness down the sides behind the wing back.I feel if we play Spencer one side of Helik and balker the other we can manage that as both have pace. Ideally we would recruit a specific ring wing back but we want sorba in the side plus Kasumu can deputise,headley is decent as a left wing back when fit. I think the recruitment has been sensible.The thing is with recruiting for 3-5-2 is that the defenders now can all revert back to play in a 4 if needed and certainly Radulovic could play centrally on his own if we went for a central striker with wide forwards.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jan 21, 2024 19:05:47 GMT 1
Up until the last week or two opinion had swayed on Rudoni that he was going to be our next major saleable asset ! I think NW showed that under the right manager he can really excel but under Darren Bore he's another that has regressed this season. The players around him change almost every game and he still plays well. Bad miss but he is not the only one who has done that. I know I am repeating myself but with Nakayama and Headley he looked really good. It isn’t fair deciding how good a player is game by game. He is one of our most consistent performers.
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Post by specialun on Jan 21, 2024 21:11:55 GMT 1
Rudoni will go further than any other player in our current squad imo.
He’s young, had a lay off, will have spells where not at his best but he’s a future premier league regular for sure
DM is not getting best out of him yet unlike NW who he made big steps forward under last season and stepped up further start of this - if DM thinks there’s a role for Rudoni / a price to pay for a better all round team / balance etc he talks about at expense of Rudoni’s own game (ie better all round for the team) then all for that but he’s failing there so losing both ways - all eyes are on DM if he doesn’t get 100% out of Rudoni beyond a short term blip // results don’t pick up quick
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jan 21, 2024 21:16:48 GMT 1
Rudoni will be awesome in a good team. He's carrying alot of responsability and workload for our other players being shit at the minute IMHO.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 21, 2024 21:27:40 GMT 1
Rudoni will go further than any other player in our current squad imo. He’s young, had a lay off, will have spells where not at his best but he’s a future premier league regular for sure DM is not getting best out of him yet AND NEVER WILL unlike NW who he made big steps forward under last season and stepped up further start of this - if DM thinks there’s a role for Rudoni / a price to pay for a better all round team / balance etc he talks about at expense of Rudoni’s own game (ie better all round for the team) then all for that but he’s failing there so losing both ways - all eyes are on DM if he doesn’t get 100% out of Rudoni beyond a short term blip // results don’t pick up quick
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 21, 2024 21:28:48 GMT 1
Rudoni will be awesome in a good team. He's carrying alot of responsability and workload for our other players being shit at the minute IMHO. In a good team or at least under a good manager.
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Post by rab030 on Jan 21, 2024 21:54:43 GMT 1
Was a chance but wouldn’t call it a “glaring miss”. it’d be called a glaring miss with certain players. Rudoni gets a lot of leeway I think he needs some leeway. He’s playing on the left of midfield generally which means he’s working with Jackson as LWB and Koroma who never makes a run. His best option is usually to pass it sideways to Hogg so he can pass it backwards or fall over. He’s a good footballer IMO
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Post by specialun on Jan 21, 2024 22:16:51 GMT 1
Rudoni will go further than any other player in our current squad imo. He’s young, had a lay off, will have spells where not at his best but he’s a future premier league regular for sure DM is not getting best out of him yet unlike NW who he made big steps forward under last season and stepped up further start of this - if DM thinks there’s a role for Rudoni / a price to pay for a better all round team / balance etc he talks about at expense of Rudoni’s own game (ie better all round for the team) then all for that but he’s failing there so losing both ways - all eyes are on DM if he doesn’t get 100% out of Rudoni beyond a short term blip // results don’t pick up quick He’s also a good example from what I’ve seen of DM so far He wants a structure (532) and balance of left foot / right foot etc - he talks a lot about balance. That’s a good basic and in lower leagues if you have that and decent players you’ll do well What he doesn’t seem to be able to do is 1. Flex style / system / plan both a. for a game b. within a game 2. Think outside the basics of structure and balance to get the best out of his better players like Rudoni - a manager with more tactical nous would be able to do that If you can’t do that then you’ll never get more out of the team than the sum of its parts - we need that to punch above our weight. The one player who has started to come on under Moore was Headley and that fits the above - clear role in wing back position, run up and down, nothing clever about it With better players results should pick up but he seems to lack flexibility, tactical brain or nous to succeed at this level or punch above our weight
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 21, 2024 22:20:04 GMT 1
I think what we really need is a Barry Horne type player. An old head who can put his foot on the ball and add a bit of composure. Dictate play, add some order and be a real focal point.
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Post by shawsie on Jan 21, 2024 22:45:16 GMT 1
Rudoni will go further than any other player in our current squad imo. He’s young, had a lay off, will have spells where not at his best but he’s a future premier league regular for sure DM is not getting best out of him yet unlike NW who he made big steps forward under last season and stepped up further start of this - if DM thinks there’s a role for Rudoni / a price to pay for a better all round team / balance etc he talks about at expense of Rudoni’s own game (ie better all round for the team) then all for that but he’s failing there so losing both ways - all eyes are on DM if he doesn’t get 100% out of Rudoni beyond a short term blip // results don’t pick up quick Wow - thats a big call for me. Has talent undoubtedly but been here nearly 2 yrs now and not sure where his best position is still. 1 goal and 3 assists thus far aint a huge return acknowledging his injury and also the poor team hes in. Has to do better in front of goal - had sirba missed that yday he would have got dogs abuse. Dont think hes mobile enough for the top level personally
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Post by E4b on Jan 21, 2024 23:23:47 GMT 1
Was a chance but wouldn’t call it a “glaring miss”. Free header 6 yards out centre of goal and couldn’t even hit the target = glaring miss where I come from. I’m 63 years old these days and I would have been disappointed not to get it on target. It’s not the first time either. He seems to have a habit of missing sitters, lacks confidence.
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Post by specialun on Jan 21, 2024 23:42:09 GMT 1
Rudoni will go further than any other player in our current squad imo. He’s young, had a lay off, will have spells where not at his best but he’s a future premier league regular for sure DM is not getting best out of him yet unlike NW who he made big steps forward under last season and stepped up further start of this - if DM thinks there’s a role for Rudoni / a price to pay for a better all round team / balance etc he talks about at expense of Rudoni’s own game (ie better all round for the team) then all for that but he’s failing there so losing both ways - all eyes are on DM if he doesn’t get 100% out of Rudoni beyond a short term blip // results don’t pick up quick Wow - thats a big call for me. Has talent undoubtedly but been here nearly 2 yrs now and not sure where his best position is still. 1 goal and 3 assists thus far aint a huge return acknowledging his injury and also the poor team hes in. Has to do better in front of goal - had sirba missed that yday he would have got dogs abuse. Dont think hes mobile enough for the top level personally He has 3 goals this season? It is a big call - I partly agree with what you say re end product, certainly in the air which could be a big asset to him I think Warnock spoke both about his potential and need to work on end product. Under Warnock he played 21 games, he scored 4 often as an 8. He’d be looking at double figures in a full season with a proper manager. He had a manager who took his talent and got him in positions where he could score, he openly spoke about the work he’d done on first time finishing in and around the box, movement and timing of runs. No surprise under Warnock you saw that end product improve
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Post by araucaria on Jan 22, 2024 0:10:22 GMT 1
Was a chance but wouldn’t call it a “glaring miss”. Free header 6 yards out centre of goal and couldn’t even hit the target = glaring miss where I come from. I’m 63 years old these days and I would have been disappointed not to get it on target. It’s not the first time either. He seems to have a habit of missing sitters, lacks confidence. He muffed a very good chance (to equalise) at Blackburn last season as well, but at that time he still hadn't broken his duck. Needs NW to remind him about the advice he gave him last season, after which he started to score. A good manager would be aware of such things and should be reinforcing them e.g Koroma adding to his one trick by occasionally going to the by-line on his left foot, or players aren't likely to progress or start to go backwards.
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Post by utttrooper on Jan 22, 2024 0:14:41 GMT 1
it’d be called a glaring miss with certain players. Rudoni gets a lot of leeway I think he needs some leeway. He’s playing on the left of midfield generally which means he’s working with Jackson as LWB and Koroma who never makes a run. His best option is usually to pass it sideways to Hogg so he can pass it backwards or fall over. He’s a good footballer IMO Plus in many games this season it's been just him and Sorba moving us forward so does a lot of work to deserve that leeway plus he's just 22 so plenty of time to improve which i'm sure he will significantly and when sold could go for 8 figures in my opinion.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 22, 2024 8:27:48 GMT 1
When Rudoni learns how to tackle and come away with the ball, head a ball, hit a ball and have composure from 6 yards out we will have a player on our hands. For me at 22 years old he needs to now step up that level when he's fully match fit from that injury he had recently. He needs to toughen up in the tackle firstly. Good prospect.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 22, 2024 9:46:16 GMT 1
Rudoni is an attacking midfielder or a winger, we don't play either under 1D Darren, so we'll never see the best of him until we get rid of 1D.
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