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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 9, 2023 21:30:37 GMT 1
rouge? Are you French or just a bit dim? Just dim, I went to watch that shite today, I wish I'd have stuck with my gut like the other 5000 odd that didn't turn up... you keep looking through your rouge tinted glasses at this shitshow. What a dimwit you truly are. Im looking beyond but needs must at the moment |
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Post by 28901 on Dec 9, 2023 21:42:51 GMT 1
While the second half wasn't great, I thought the first half was really encouraging. Nowhere as bad as some of the performances under him so far. I agree geneally but we could have been 3 down after 10 mins. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Dec 9, 2023 21:49:53 GMT 1
It's just all a bit meh. Everyone's trying and there's glimpses of quality but overall its a hard watch. Results are half decent and but for 2 injury time goals we'd be 3 or 4 places higher in the table. But it's pretty dull isn't it?
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Post by pterrier on Dec 9, 2023 22:04:31 GMT 1
Granted the performances are negative and the tactics questionable at times but when I looked at our players today I thought how on earth have we ended up with such a limited squad. I looked at the bench and there was absolutely nothing to bring on either. Most of our players are league 1 standard and it takes a special manager like Warnock to get a tune out of them; and there’s the problem … a special manager (not many of those around). Yes, we could bring in a manager who wants to play exciting, possession based football but who truly believes that we have the players who could execute that? Can you imagine Pearson or lees receiving the ball under pressure and playing something intricate into Hogg who (if he doesn’t lose the ball after his first touch) could then play an incisive pass into ward who could use his ‘strength’ to hold off a striker or his ‘guile’ to make an intelligent run into the channel.
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Post by willo on Dec 10, 2023 0:30:51 GMT 1
The previous games we atrocious we are now just poor, even against teams that are seen as well below average. What would you do with our wafer thin and injury ravaged squad? Excuses excuses, always excuses. |
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Post by deo1 on Dec 10, 2023 0:55:11 GMT 1
I’ll be honest I’ve not read any of this thread but from what I’ve seen of town since he came in all he deserves is the sack. He’s taken us from a hard to beat team who was difficult to beat to a poor team who are lucky to get a win.
Yes we’ve won a couple of games under him but look at who we’ve played. Today Bristol looked poor and there for the taking but the way town played and sat back made them look like world beaters. The longer he stays in charge the worse we will get.
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Post by willo on Dec 10, 2023 1:00:48 GMT 1
I didn’t bother going today, I’m guessing like many others. Granted I felt pretty lousy having picked up a cold overnight and the thought of traipsing along Leeds Rd and back in the rain to watch what I expected would be served up didn’t inspire me. I would though probably have gone had Warnock still been manager and therein lies the problem with me and apparently so many others. Listening to it on Radio Leeds, it doesn’t sound like I missed much. And I have a fire stick and could have watched the game and still chose not to! I know you can’t turn back time but getting rid of NW was one thing, then to replace him with DM? Not for me as both results and performances have borne out. Tbh, he’d have to go on some sort of miraculous run for me to be force fed a bit of humble pie and that’s not going to happen, injuries or not. I doubt very much I’ll be there on Tuesday night either. The club’s had my money for this season and you pays your money so you make your choice. It looks very much like I’ll be breaking my long run of consistently renewing for next season as it stands.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2023 2:58:09 GMT 1
I'd rather eat a Darren Moore shit than watch the shit on offer on Tuesday.. Please try and at least roll it in glitter ffs.
5001 season ticket holders missing on Tuesday.... I actually think the stands will be pretty empty.
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Post by dezzly on Dec 10, 2023 9:58:27 GMT 1
Having now read a fair amount from yesterday evening on here and on twitter Im almost coming to the conclusion I don’t know what to think.I don’t know if iv just set the bar so much lower now that I’m happy with just ok or if there are many who are just massively over the top criticism wise.
I came away yesterday a bit meh to be honest.I saw a few decent passing moves that just have been none existent.But also saw them get down the sides way too easy which was a theme before the flat back 5 came in.
Without sorba we clearly create next to nothing which is also not a new theme.
Would a win Tuesday and 10 points in 7 be considered decent progress?
Is the fact we draw so many we could probably win making it seem worse than it is?
A loss on Tuesday may see a fair amount of folk stay away for the foreseeable though considering the home fixtures after it.
I’m still holding onto my initial thoughts from a few weeks back that it’s difficult to judge,though players are coming back so improvements need to be seen.
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Post by covterrier on Dec 10, 2023 10:08:43 GMT 1
I didn’t bother going today, I’m guessing like many others. Granted I felt pretty lousy having picked up a cold overnight and the thought of traipsing along Leeds Rd and back in the rain to watch what I expected would be served up didn’t inspire me. I would though probably have gone had Warnock still been manager and therein lies the problem with me and apparently so many others. Listening to it on Radio Leeds, it doesn’t sound like I missed much. And I have a fire stick and could have watched the game and still chose not to! I know you can’t turn back time but getting rid of NW was one thing, then to replace him with DM? Not for me as both results and performances have borne out. Tbh, he’d have to go on some sort of miraculous run for me to be force fed a bit of humble pie and that’s not going to happen, injuries or not. I doubt very much I’ll be there on Tuesday night either. The club’s had my money for this season and you pays your money so you make your choice. It looks very much like I’ll be breaking my long run of consistently renewing for next season as it stands. This. That’s the last 3 Saturday home games where I couldn’t find the enthusiasm to jump in my car and make the trek up the M1. My last game was the QPR win and I don’t think I’ve ever left a game following a victory where I’ve felt as flat. Totally uninspiring performances have left me questioning whether to renew my season card already. Still trying to convince myself to make the short trip to Leicester on New Year’s Day |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Dec 10, 2023 10:28:22 GMT 1
What would you do with our wafer thin and injury ravaged squad? Excuses excuses, always excuses. Not really 'excuses' though are they? We do have an appallingly thin squad, and we have spent the bulk of the season plagued with injuries. I'm not saying that DM has made the absolute best use of what little talent we have, but there can be no argument that he has the players working and fighting for him, and while we still are not getting the results we need, we also look a long way from being that team that got back to back drubbings earlier in the season. All we can do is pray that the powers that be give DM the reinforcements he needs in Jan, and that he uses them effectively. |
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 10, 2023 10:46:03 GMT 1
I’ll be honest I’ve not read any of this thread but from what I’ve seen of town since he came in all he deserves is the sack. He’s taken us from a hard to beat team who was difficult to beat to a poor team who are lucky to get a win. Yes we’ve won a couple of games under him but look at who we’ve played. Today Bristol looked poor and there for the taking but the way town played and sat back made them look like world beaters. The longer he stays in charge the worse we will get. "Town are without Josh Ruffels (groin), Jack Rudoni (foot), Sorba Thomas (suspended), Ollie Turton (knee), Kian Harratt (hamstring), Pat Jones (hamstring), Kyle Hudlin (groin), and Ben Jackson (groin)." Add this to players like Ward, Hogg, Wiles and Kasumu just back from injury. City made 4 changes and none of them were to the detriment of the team. We made 3, 2 due to players struggling to play 90 minutes, Wiles & Ward, and one to injury, Koroma getting a knock. They were not done to give us something different, change things around, they were done for expediency. My only question is I don't know why Nakayama didn't play. City had a lot of pace in their front line, and we have 2 slow and one not very quick centre backs, so maybe there was concern he would be caught out by that, but it did surprise me as he is the best ball player in our back line. |
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Post by dezzly on Dec 10, 2023 11:18:59 GMT 1
I’ll be honest I’ve not read any of this thread but from what I’ve seen of town since he came in all he deserves is the sack. He’s taken us from a hard to beat team who was difficult to beat to a poor team who are lucky to get a win. Yes we’ve won a couple of games under him but look at who we’ve played. Today Bristol looked poor and there for the taking but the way town played and sat back made them look like world beaters. The longer he stays in charge the worse we will get. "Town are without Josh Ruffels (groin), Jack Rudoni (foot), Sorba Thomas (suspended), Ollie Turton (knee), Kian Harratt (hamstring), Pat Jones (hamstring), Kyle Hudlin (groin), and Ben Jackson (groin)." Add this to players like Ward, Hogg, Wiles and Kasumu just back from injury. City made 4 changes and none of them were to the detriment of the team. We made 3, 2 due to players struggling to play 90 minutes, Wiles & Ward, and one to injury, Koroma getting a knock. They were not done to give us something different, change things around, they were done for expediency. My only question is I don't know why Nakayama didn't play. City had a lot of pace in their front line, and we have 2 slow and one not very quick centre backs, so maybe there was concern he would be caught out by that, but it did surprise me as he is the best ball player in our back line. If he doesn’t play Tuesday I’d think that maybe he might be going in January.I too expected to see him yesterday even if it was on as a sub,headley was blowing mid way second half. No mention of a new contract so imagine maybe he could go. |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 10, 2023 11:34:30 GMT 1
What would you do with our wafer thin and injury ravaged squad? Excuses excuses, always excuses. There is a difference between reasons and excuses |
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 10, 2023 13:08:55 GMT 1
"Town are without Josh Ruffels (groin), Jack Rudoni (foot), Sorba Thomas (suspended), Ollie Turton (knee), Kian Harratt (hamstring), Pat Jones (hamstring), Kyle Hudlin (groin), and Ben Jackson (groin)." Add this to players like Ward, Hogg, Wiles and Kasumu just back from injury. City made 4 changes and none of them were to the detriment of the team. We made 3, 2 due to players struggling to play 90 minutes, Wiles & Ward, and one to injury, Koroma getting a knock. They were not done to give us something different, change things around, they were done for expediency. My only question is I don't know why Nakayama didn't play. City had a lot of pace in their front line, and we have 2 slow and one not very quick centre backs, so maybe there was concern he would be caught out by that, but it did surprise me as he is the best ball player in our back line. If he doesn’t play Tuesday I’d think that maybe he might be going in January.I too expected to see him yesterday even if it was on as a sub,headley was blowing mid way second half. No mention of a new contract so imagine maybe he could go. Would make sense if we can get something for him I guess. Pretty sure he will go in the summer as he only signed a 2 year deal so it felt like a stepping stone into UK football for him. |
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Post by softboy on Dec 10, 2023 16:44:31 GMT 1
Let’s just try a bit of positivity. After Cardiff and Leeds where we were very poor and completely knackered our goal difference DM has clearly set up to concede as few goals as possible as we might score 1 but unlikely much more. Since then we have played 6 games and whilst only won 1 we have only lost 1 and conceded less than a goal a game. Not saying we should be singing from the roof tops but surely this is a big step forward. We are in a relegation battle for sure but if you look at the table so are half the division. People are free to make their own decisions as to whether to go on Tuesday or not, all I would say if you are able to turn up and get behind the team that be great.
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Post by Blueblood on Dec 10, 2023 17:02:43 GMT 1
Surely the clock is ticking on Moore getting the boot.The sooner the better or we're certs for div 1.
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Dec 10, 2023 17:58:02 GMT 1
Wholly unimpressed by this dullard manager. Dull and uninspiring manager surprisingly enough producing dull and uninspiring football. He doesn't seem capable of improving any our players and what little progression we have seen in recent games is offset by him taking us so far backwards in his first few games - arguably we haven't got back to where we were when Warnock was sacked. Sacking Warnock was yet another in a long line of terrible decisions in recent years compounded by appointing this complete and utter non-entity. If Wiles & Edwards are symptomatic of our playing recruitment under the new regime and Moore is the baseline of their management recruitment we are in for a long slog towards the end of the season and almost certain relegation. Watching Town under Moore has become a real chore and I find it hard to contemplate it getting any better anytime soon.
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Post by softboy on Dec 10, 2023 18:55:43 GMT 1
Almost certainly relegation-really! I’m not saying we are out of the shit by any means but I suggest you have a look at the league table, lots of other fans are also saying the same
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Post by Duff as old Boots on Dec 10, 2023 18:59:52 GMT 1
What would you do with our wafer thin and injury ravaged squad? Excuses excuses, always excuses. Deffo wafer thin squad, who's that down to? |
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2023 19:39:38 GMT 1
Times up for Moore. The excuses have run out. The results have been awful 2 wins in 13 and zero hint of any progressive football. Attendances falling alarmingly..
The knowledgeable posters said it was incompetence with the summer window, were hushed. Said it was suicide hiring Moore and total incompetence letting it carry on. Cartwright should go for his awful record over 6 months, Moore for so obviously not been up to the task. Kev must what his head checking to give anyone any brass to spend in january. Moore is a chequebook manager and I can't see us writing big enough cheques for him to succeed.
Tines up,
Time to go.
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Post by dezzly on Dec 10, 2023 20:09:53 GMT 1
Times up for Moore. The excuses have run out. The results have been awful 2 wins in 13 and zero hint of any progressive football. Attendances falling alarmingly.. The knowledgeable posters said it was incompetence with the summer window, were hushed. Said it was suicide hiring Moore and total incompetence letting it carry on. Cartwright should go for his awful record over 6 months, Moore for so obviously not been up to the task. Kev must what his head checking to give anyone any brass to spend in january. Moore is a chequebook manager and I can't see us writing big enough cheques for him to succeed. Tines up, Time to go. Chequebook manager 😂…didn’t he manage Doncaster. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 10, 2023 20:23:28 GMT 1
It isn’t Moores fault he has inherited this appalling weak squad. He literally has nothing to change things. Reg,Diarra, austerfield , Edwards dear me, he has nothing.
Harrett, Hudson - dear me just nowhere near champ standard.
Warnock. Is it true Ward (awful yesterday) - ruffles are with his son’s agency ? Is that why he was sacked. Let’s not forget Warnock told us he had said the squad only needed 3 or 4 players. That’s a joke.
All clubs have had injuries.
Dean set a low budget - so we are told.
Nagle’s takeover took longer but he really has to back Moore in the transfer window.
That will not happen. Maybe a couple. We will have to limp through the season and try and stay up.
We will go down this time - we have danced with devil one too many times.
Nagle will blame the previous 5 years and we will be back where Dean took us over all that time ago.
Grim.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 10, 2023 20:41:30 GMT 1
It isn’t Moores fault he has inherited this appalling weak squad. He literally has nothing to change things. He seems to have changed things for the worse since he got here Reg,Diarra, austerfield , Edwards dear me, he has nothing. Harrett, Hudson - dear me just nowhere near champ standard. Warnock. Is it true Ward (awful yesterday) - ruffles are with his son’s agency ? Is that why he was sacked. Let’s not forget Warnock told us he had said the squad only needed 3 or 4 players. That’s a joke. All clubs have had injuries. Dean set a low budget - so we are told. Chicken pointed out in one of his stories that it could have been changed.Nagle’s takeover took longer but he really has to back Moore in the transfer window. lets hope so That will not happen. Maybe a couple. We will have to limp through the season and try and stay up. We will go down this time - we have danced with devil one too many times. Nagle will blame the previous 5 years and we will be back where Dean took us over all that time ago. Grim. Unfortunately you are right. We have got so many KN robots on here blaming everything on anybody apart from KN's team and this follows years of people on here being bigger Dean fans than of Huddersfield Town. |
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Post by atowninessex on Dec 11, 2023 8:38:42 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure I will not make the trek Tuesday night after watching us throw away another 2 points Saturday
what i cannot get is how players like koroma, burgzog . headley and diara can beat 2 / 3 players and then not pick a pass
to another team member, I get sometimes they can shoot - but normally don't , also how many times we are going forward
to 15 secs alter have made 3 or 4 passes back to the keeper who then boots it long to no one !this must be the coaching
one positive from the last couple of games is Maxwell , I would cash in on Nicholls if they can in January but only if the cash go's on players
we know its a shit squad with injuries but I can see the comments in January now from Moore "having Rudoni, Ruffles and Turton back is like 3 new signings"
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 11, 2023 8:59:03 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure I will not make the trek Tuesday night after watching us throw away another 2 points Saturday what i cannot get is how players like koroma, burgzog . headley and diara can beat 2 / 3 players and then not pick a pass to another team member, I get sometimes they can shoot - but normally don't , also how many times we are going forward to 15 secs alter have made 3 or 4 passes back to the keeper who then boots it long to no one !this must be the coaching one positive from the last couple of games is Maxwell , I would cash in on Nicholls if they can in January but only if the cash go's on players we know its a shit squad with injuries but I can see the comments in January now from Moore "having Rudoni, Ruffles and Turton back is like 3 new signings" It was a point gained - Bristol should’ve wrapped it up in first 2 minutes and only one team looked like snatching it in the second half (don’t blame you for staying away) |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 11, 2023 9:01:07 GMT 1
Surely the clock is ticking on Moore getting the boot.The sooner the better or we're certs for div 1. We're not though are we? Possible? Yes Dead certs? Absolutely not. Talk twaddle. |
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 11, 2023 9:03:41 GMT 1
We’re hanging on by a thread until January. It’s clear that the only thing Moore can do is try not lose until then, which generally he is succeeding in. If things aren’t improving mid-late Feb and he’s been given a reasonable budget to work with and told the recruitment team exactly what he needs - then it’s time to pull the trigger. Until then we’re stuck with him.
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Post by dugnet on Dec 11, 2023 9:23:45 GMT 1
Excuses excuses, always excuses. There is a difference between reasons and excuses And there are people who make excuses for those who are the reason for our predicament. Sorry I couldn't resist, what is a sly dig but a dig from a reasoned position. We all know it's down to January now, get it right and we're moving forward again. Get it wrong and it's going to look like a very long road ahead, with no clear sight of a positive destination. As for DM, he might be able to do a little better with what he has but he needs better resources. If he gets them (I think we'll do business, but it depends how good that business is) then he has to deliver. It feels like the Nagle era, DMs managership and the immediate future of the club depends on 31 days. That might be a tad melodramatic but it's also not far from the truth. Should the club be in this position (after the opportunity of the Premier League)? Well that's a pretty pointless debate as we can't change it now but most will point to that as a reason although others will excuse what happened. |
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Post by ben1987 on Dec 11, 2023 10:24:26 GMT 1
There is a difference between reasons and excuses And there are people who make excuses for those who are the reason for our predicament. Sorry I couldn't resist, what is a sly dig but a dig from a reasoned position. We all know it's down to January now, get it right and we're moving forward again. Get it wrong and it's going to look like a very long road ahead, with no clear sight of a positive destination. As for DM, he might be able to do a little better with what he has but he needs better resources. If he gets them (I think we'll do business, but it depends how good that business is) then he has to deliver. It feels like the Nagle era, DMs managership and the immediate future of the club depends on 31 days. That might be a tad melodramatic but it's also not far from the truth. Should the club be in this position (after the opportunity of the Premier League)? Well that's a pretty pointless debate as we can't change it now but most will point to that as a reason although others will excuse what happened. Not specifically aimed at you but the section in bold highlights the problem that fans like myself have continually made reference to and criticised the club incessantly over the last few years. It’s old ground but it highlights a wider problem that we make the same mistakes off the field. Before I ball was kicked this season, only a smattering of fans were seemingly happy with the squad where as the overwhelming majority could see how thin, lightweight and low on quality it was. The summer window, for a variety of reasons which we’ve done to death, was unacceptable. Yet here we are AGAIN counting down the days until January. Fans buy their season tickets before the season starts but the club buys the players 6 months later. Have the club not learnt anything? I’ll never give them a free pass or say Kevin Nagles only just arrived. There’s experienced football people in high roles such as Jake Edwards, Mark Cartwright and at the time Neil Warnock, it’s totally fair to be critical and pull the club to task when last season we went in with another appalling summer where we saw the last of our quality players leave and another paper thin, lightweight low quality squad start the season then come January it was panic stations. This has been a familiar story for a few seasons now with the exception of the Carlos season where we did all our business early and although results didn’t come early on, you could see a structure within the squad. So the clubs learnt nothing from the past and when you look around the stadium on a match day (take note of Tuesday night v Preston) the amount of empty seats is growing alarmingly. The clubs losing sight of what made us good. I’m told more investment is coming in the not too distant future but I’m not sure I have faith in those in charge to make the best of it. With the likelihood of season ticket prices going up next season and another relegation scrap, all those who made and continue to make excuses for the club are as much responsible for our predicament as the club are for not listening to the fan base and will look on at the half empty stands next season and wonder why the hell anyone ever asked if we will increase the capacity of the stadium during the PL years. It’s never been about how much we’ve spent, more how we’ve spent it. |
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