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Post by harris on Dec 27, 2023 22:10:04 GMT 1
That's an absolutely staggering stat. You really don't need to dig any deeper to understand the general mood/apathy of the fanbase right now. -177 says it all I blame Cartwright… Cartwright, Moore, Nagle, Edwards. This last 10 years is all their fault. I might tweet the club to sack Moore and direct some abuse at Kev. (Worrying how many of our fans think like this) |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 27, 2023 22:12:20 GMT 1
Cartwright, Moore, Nagle, Edwards. This last 10 years is all their fault. I might tweet the club to sack Moore and direct some abuse at Kev. (Worrying how many of our fans think like this) These last 10 years have seen us reach the Premier League, spend two years there and remain in the top two tiers for the longest period of time since 1972. I dread to think how people would be reacting if we were in League One. |
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Post by JG Mellor on Dec 27, 2023 22:32:53 GMT 1
Cartwright, Moore, Nagle, Edwards. This last 10 years is all their fault. I might tweet the club to sack Moore and direct some abuse at Kev. (Worrying how many of our fans think like this) These last 10 years have seen us reach the Premier League, spend two years there and remain in the top two tiers for the longest period of time since 1972. I dread to think how people would be reacting if we were in League One. I guess from that you have pretty shit uninspiring life? Take what you can hey? |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 27, 2023 22:36:21 GMT 1
These last 10 years have seen us reach the Premier League, spend two years there and remain in the top two tiers for the longest period of time since 1972. I dread to think how people would be reacting if we were in League One. I guess from that you have pretty shit uninspiring life? Take what you can hey? My life is fine, buddy 😘 |
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Post by wigster on Dec 27, 2023 22:52:31 GMT 1
I guess from that you have pretty shit uninspiring life? Take what you can hey? My life is fine, buddy 😘 I agree htafc - for a tiny little club like Huddersfield to manage to get promoted, survive in the Premier league (you remember our approach once there, particularly in the second year ?) and then stay in the Championship, albeit struggling for most of the time, is very satisfying. OK we may have spaffed literally hundreds of millions of £s in that time and ended up with the squad and performances that we now witness weekly, but I do agree that we should be forever grateful for our small mercies... We've some ungrateful so and sos on this board. We're really a lower division club fighting way above our weight, aren't we ? Goodness me ! |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 27, 2023 23:03:03 GMT 1
I agree htafc - for a tiny little club like Huddersfield to manage to get promoted, survive in the Premier league (you remember our approach once there, particularly in the second year ?) and then stay in the Championship, albeit struggling for most of the time, is very satisfying. OK we may have spaffed literally hundreds of millions of £s in that time and ended up with the squad and performances that we now witness weekly, but I do agree that we should be forever grateful for our small mercies... We've some ungrateful so and sos on this board. We're really a lower division club fighting way above our weight, aren't we ? Goodness me ! No. The complete opposite actually. We are historically a second tier club. There was no one angrier than me at how we stank the place out in the Premier League, though it seemed I was in a minority at the time. Never said I was satisfied, I was just offering some balance. Funny innit? I'm a miserable, negative fucking wanker normally yet when I try and offer some balance, I'm a happy clapper that thinks we're a shitty little club punching above our weight. Can't fucking win. |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 27, 2023 23:08:52 GMT 1
So what you’re saying is… when we lose it’s Moore’s fault, and when we win it’s nothing to do with him? Seems like a completely balanced point of view 👍 You got it pal! We won't beat Middlesbrough. We got lucky versus Blackburn with our shots squirming beneath the keeper, etc. They are such a terrible side. But you can kid yourself that, that one result is the turning point of our season and all is well. Leicester got lucky then against us when Mavdidi hit it under Nicholls? Such a random thing to say. A goal is a goal. Make your own luck. |
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Post by trotsky on Dec 27, 2023 23:49:47 GMT 1
In the spirit of that grand old Christmas film, ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’…
If George Bailey, sorry Dean Hoyle had never been born…
We’d have spent the last ten years in the bottom two divisions, with no trips/victories at Wembley, no club legends like Wagner, Mooy, Hefele, Schindler etc., none of the feeling of beating Manure and the rest and absolutely none of euphoria after the nail-biting games to keep us in the greedy league, but, but, BUT…
Our goal difference would have been better!
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Post by goodbet on Dec 27, 2023 23:52:32 GMT 1
Sack DM ?! No way. He's by far our best manager since Neil Warnock left ! Only just!  |
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Dec 27, 2023 23:56:57 GMT 1
I agree htafc - for a tiny little club like Huddersfield to manage to get promoted, survive in the Premier league (you remember our approach once there, particularly in the second year ?) and then stay in the Championship, albeit struggling for most of the time, is very satisfying. OK we may have spaffed literally hundreds of millions of £s in that time and ended up with the squad and performances that we now witness weekly, but I do agree that we should be forever grateful for our small mercies... We've some ungrateful so and sos on this board. We're really a lower division club fighting way above our weight, aren't we ? Goodness me ! No. The complete opposite actually. We are historically a second tier club. There was no one angrier than me at how we stank the place out in the Premier League, though it seemed I was in a minority at the time. Never said I was satisfied, I was just offering some balance. Funny innit? I'm a miserable, negative fucking wanker normally yet when I try and offer some balance, I'm a happy clapper that thinks we're a shitty little club punching above our weight. Can't fucking win. Actually I think had we NOT been promoted and instead bobbed about the second tier for the past ten years with a goal difference over that time of nearer to zero, the mood around here would be a lot better. More like our natural position in the order of things, as you say. It's because of what we have ensured since, and the manner in which we have pissed it all away, which stinks this place out so much. And don't forget (I'm sure you haven't) we got promoted with a negative goal difference, which really adds some context to how much we've had to endure when we haven't been winning games by the odd goal |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 28, 2023 0:14:00 GMT 1
No. The complete opposite actually. We are historically a second tier club. There was no one angrier than me at how we stank the place out in the Premier League, though it seemed I was in a minority at the time. Never said I was satisfied, I was just offering some balance. Funny innit? I'm a miserable, negative fucking wanker normally yet when I try and offer some balance, I'm a happy clapper that thinks we're a shitty little club punching above our weight. Can't fucking win. Actually I think had we NOT been promoted and instead bobbed about the second tier for the past ten years with a goal difference over that time of nearer to zero, the mood around here would be a lot better. More like our natural position in the order of things, as you say. It's because of what we have ensured since, and the manner in which we have pissed it all away, which stinks this place out so much. And don't forget (I'm sure you haven't) we got promoted with a negative goal difference, which really adds some context to how much we've had to endure when we haven't been winning games by the odd goal I’d love to be Preston North End, achieving nothing, not even a play off place and stuck in the middle of the 2nd tier seemingly in perpetuity. Exciting stuff. |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 28, 2023 0:20:01 GMT 1
No. The complete opposite actually. We are historically a second tier club. There was no one angrier than me at how we stank the place out in the Premier League, though it seemed I was in a minority at the time. Never said I was satisfied, I was just offering some balance. Funny innit? I'm a miserable, negative fucking wanker normally yet when I try and offer some balance, I'm a happy clapper that thinks we're a shitty little club punching above our weight. Can't fucking win. Actually I think had we NOT been promoted and instead bobbed about the second tier for the past ten years with a goal difference over that time of nearer to zero, the mood around here would be a lot better. More like our natural position in the order of things, as you say. It's because of what we have ensured since, and the manner in which we have pissed it all away, which stinks this place out so much. And don't forget (I'm sure you haven't) we got promoted with a negative goal difference, which really adds some context to how much we've had to endure when we haven't been winning games by the odd goal No it wouldn't, everyone would be moaning that we'd done fuck all for 10 years. Never understood this obsession with the goal difference in 2016-17. We literally got promoted, who cares about the goal difference? Same with possession. I've seen loads this season wittering about that. We could have 10% possession for all I care as long as we win. Town fans have some strange priorities at times. |
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Post by twyford on Dec 28, 2023 0:49:24 GMT 1
Actually I think had we NOT been promoted and instead bobbed about the second tier for the past ten years with a goal difference over that time of nearer to zero, the mood around here would be a lot better. More like our natural position in the order of things, as you say. It's because of what we have ensured since, and the manner in which we have pissed it all away, which stinks this place out so much. And don't forget (I'm sure you haven't) we got promoted with a negative goal difference, which really adds some context to how much we've had to endure when we haven't been winning games by the odd goal I’d love to be Preston North End, achieving nothing, not even a play off place and stuck in the middle of the 2nd tier seemingly in perpetuity. Exciting stuff. The only remaining team to have won England's top division and not played in the Premier League. |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Dec 28, 2023 0:53:33 GMT 1
Moore back in lol.
I'm not the greatest fan of Moore but fair play to the guy. Hope we can follow this up with more points on the board.
January transfer window no matter who's in charge is the key.
This will outline Kev and Co's intentions.
Moore didn't employ himself so the issue lies deeper IMO.
Do we trust those in charge to get us through a successful window?
Fingers crossed things will turn out ok
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Post by Sio on Dec 28, 2023 1:29:25 GMT 1
Bang on for me, this. Carlos had the tactical acumen to make up for his lack of personality. Can Moore prove us wrong in that he does too? Didnt Carlos go something like 20 games without a win in his first season? If it wasn't for having an empty stadium I think it woukd have been so toxic he'd never have turned it around to make a second season. Warnock performed a miracle. But he didn't have an injury crisis like we've had since he left and the win against Rotherham before he left was far from convincing and the last game under him v Stoke was as bad as anything else this season. It's been done to death but disagree on Carlos. He started well whilst showing signs (glimpses if nothing more) of a stylish, pragmatic set-up. The difference that I believe many felt was that he didn't have the players in that first season. With Moore, I have genuinely no idea what his style is other than parking the bus, and I worry about his incomings rather than relish them. That's just me of course. Many may have seen something that a couple of key signings will bring to life. |
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Post by willo on Dec 28, 2023 1:47:14 GMT 1
The next 3 are tough and I’m expecting nothing, perhaps a draw v Boro. The Blackburn result should give us some confidence but then they lost to Rotherham and will be looking for a response. Lose v Blackburn and I’m convinced he’s gone but I reckon that win buys him time. The 4 games after the Citeh cup match are a chance to pick up some points so DM will likely be around for those unless we are pounded to pieces at Leicester and in the Cup. And having KN in town in January perhaps adds an extra dimension into it. Interesting.
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Post by Towner47 on Dec 28, 2023 10:30:13 GMT 1
Sick to teeth of this thread .I really hope he proves all you miserable vitriolic lot wrong I want some of what you're having if recent results apart from yesterday didn't make you miserable. I did not say I was happy with recent results I did not say I was happy with DM ( at the moment) I did say it has been nothing short of a and toxic thread that really needs to change |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 28, 2023 11:06:18 GMT 1
I want some of what you're having if recent results apart from yesterday didn't make you miserable. I did not say I was happy with recent results I did not say I was happy with DM ( at the moment) I did say it has been nothing short of a and toxic thread that really needs to change No, you called everybody that is against Moore vitriolic miserable people. And by saying that, you are implying that we fans are causing Moore distress, which is a bit of a bold accusation. |
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Post by araucaria on Dec 28, 2023 11:10:00 GMT 1
So under Moore we have got 17 points from 17 games and under NW 8 from the previous 7. Can see why people want Moore out. That collapse in form is horrific! A better comparison is with the manager before Warnock. Fotheringham, who took over when we had 7 points from 9 games, won his 23rd and 24th games this time last year, after which we had 25 points from 24 games. I went to the next game, at home to Luton, fearing the worst and hoping for the best, just as I will tomorrow. |
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Post by Towner47 on Dec 28, 2023 16:51:49 GMT 1
I did not say I was happy with recent results I did not say I was happy with DM ( at the moment) I did say it has been nothing short of a and toxic thread that really needs to change No, you called everybody that is against Moore vitriolic miserable people. And by saying that, you are implying that we fans are causing Moore distress, which is a bit of a bold accusation. I stick by my opinion. |
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 28, 2023 17:21:22 GMT 1
Cartwright, Moore, Nagle, Edwards. This last 10 years is all their fault. I might tweet the club to sack Moore and direct some abuse at Kev. ( Worrying how many of our fans think like this) It’s barely any, just as there’s hardly any actual toxicity or negativity in the ground at matches. That tiny number are just very visible/audible, you don’t notice the huge proportion of fans who aren’t feeling the need to demonstrate a negative reaction. |
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Post by rickrast on Dec 28, 2023 17:28:07 GMT 1
Cartwright, Moore, Nagle, Edwards. This last 10 years is all their fault. I might tweet the club to sack Moore and direct some abuse at Kev. (Worrying how many of our fans think like this) These last 10 years have seen us reach the Premier League, spend two years there and remain in the top two tiers for the longest period of time since 1972. I dread to think how people would be reacting if we were in League One. You may find out next season.....:-( |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Dec 29, 2023 9:35:17 GMT 1
I want some of what you're having if recent results apart from yesterday didn't make you miserable. I did not say I was happy with recent results I did not say I was happy with DM ( at the moment) I did say it has been nothing short of a and toxic thread that really needs to change Goes with the territory mate, the way things change is by getting results. Negative football trying to see out the full 90 minutes by being risk averse is not going to get you 3 points. We are not playing Barcelona every week and this non football is not endearing to people who have paid their hard earned money to watch an entertaining match. Granted of course you cannot guarantee out of your seat football every week but to sit 11 players behind the ball week on week is nothing short of criminal. Great result vs Blackburn and it goes to show if you allow your players the freedom to play football what can happen. Hopefully DM can now instil a bit of confidence in those players and allow them to do what ultimately they are paid to do. Hopefully this continues and whilst there will be bumps along the road let's try play good football and give the fans something to get behind. UTT |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 29, 2023 11:01:22 GMT 1
Cartwright, Moore, Nagle, Edwards. This last 10 years is all their fault. I might tweet the club to sack Moore and direct some abuse at Kev. ( Worrying how many of our fans think like this) It’s barely any, just as there’s hardly any actual toxicity or negativity in the ground at matches. That tiny number are just very visible/audible, you don’t notice the huge proportion of fans who aren’t feeling the need to demonstrate a negative reaction. The ones that are going but are totally apathetic ? There's absolutely zero enthusiasm around where I sit in the KB. |
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 29, 2023 12:03:11 GMT 1
It’s barely any, just as there’s hardly any actual toxicity or negativity in the ground at matches. That tiny number are just very visible/audible, you don’t notice the huge proportion of fans who aren’t feeling the need to demonstrate a negative reaction. The ones that are going but are totally apathetic ? There's absolutely zero enthusiasm around where I sit in the KB. From where I am, even the traditionally noisier part of the KB has demonstrated next to no zero visible/audible enthusiasm since promotion to the PL barring the last couple of months of CC's play off season, so I'm not sure you can imply apathy from any current crowd. It's just as reasonably people knowing they're watching a weak squad playing football and realising its a roller coaster and they're cruising reasonably happily along for the ride in the hope of some future thrills to counter any current downturn. The reaction in particular to the 2nd and 3rd goals going in the other day from the people around me was not the behaviour of apathetic fans. It was the behaviour of actual fans. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Dec 29, 2023 12:24:41 GMT 1
Actually I think had we NOT been promoted and instead bobbed about the second tier for the past ten years with a goal difference over that time of nearer to zero, the mood around here would be a lot better. More like our natural position in the order of things, as you say. It's because of what we have ensured since, and the manner in which we have pissed it all away, which stinks this place out so much. And don't forget (I'm sure you haven't) we got promoted with a negative goal difference, which really adds some context to how much we've had to endure when we haven't been winning games by the odd goal I’d love to be Preston North End, achieving nothing, not even a play off place and stuck in the middle of the 2nd tier seemingly in perpetuity. Exciting stuff. I’d take that for a season or maybe even two to be honest after the last few seasons... But I wouldn’t like to get board for too long in football - And Town Surely are the LEAST boring club ever invented for sure... I wonder if The Preston North End Board ever get ‘board’ !!! 😬 |
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Post by tepidterrier on Dec 29, 2023 23:03:12 GMT 1
Would much rather he sets us up like today and loses 2 and wins 1, than sets up like he had been doing and draws all 3.
He'll find that the fans have much more patience with him.
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Post by JuryDefender on Dec 29, 2023 23:37:15 GMT 1
Massive credit to DM over the last couple of games. To have us so competitive, at this time of year, with such a threadbare squad, no recognised strikers and no scope for rotation, is testament to his motivational abilities. Really hope he gets decent backing from the Board in January, so that he can be judged fairly.
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Post by pterrier on Dec 29, 2023 23:43:15 GMT 1
Fair play to Moore, the last two performances have been really good and we’ve actually played some nice football. Having mobility up front has massively helped us, as has having two mobile wing backs. Keep this up and I think we’ll be safe - providing Nagel gets his hand in his bloody pocket, meaning we don’t have to rely on league 2/national league quality subs.
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 23:45:22 GMT 1
It’s frustrating because the win ratio is shocking, but I am starting to come round to what we’re trying to achieve. His future will be decided by our signings this January imo. If we get some decent players then I think we will be fine, if our business is below par then it will probably go on like this and survival will be tough. But I am starting to see some things to be positive about now we’ve got the majority of our key players starting. But we can’t be fielding a bench that weak ever again at this level.
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