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Post by desertstorm on Dec 13, 2023 19:45:17 GMT 1
Dunc is now representing us all š³ Reading between the lines. Nagle feels that they havenāt been given a fair chance. He quotes lack of investment over the last 5 years. He has said in the US they stick with managers longer. He believes that with some smart recruitment we will be stronger come the next transfer window. He says he has spent millions purchasing our club. He wonāt discuss Moore and that was the same with Warnock. My reading between the lines. He has many companies and we are a small part of his portfolio. He doesnāt understand football, and his quotes might as well be those of Moore. He thinks we should dig in until things get better. I have had enough of ādigging inā. He hasnāt replied to my DMās last night which were all about Mooreās tactics and the falling attendances. Iām not sure he is that bothered which league we are in. If, as you say he isnāt bothered what league we are in Iād suggest he re-think pretty quickly. This isnāt America, it isnāt Sacramento and itās time to get with the programme |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 13, 2023 20:22:38 GMT 1
As said elsewhere, Americans don't understand relegation. Nagle will probably suggest cheerleaders. I mean this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Why make a sweeping generalisation like that? What do you hope to achieve with such a comment? The guy has been in the club 2 fucking minutes. I genuinely believe some fans won't be happy until we have been ground to dust simply so they can say I told you so. |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2023 20:23:06 GMT 1
Apologies. But it annoys me that people believe everything Warnock said. They don't. It was clear to many that there must have been other factors going on and he wasn't sacked for football reasons. The club handled it with class by giving him his press conference and farewell match etc, not muddying his name at all. Sharing screenshots of private messages between the owner and yourself will help absolutely no-one. God knows what Kevin was thinking sending you any confidential information in the first place. Given your knowledge of this information, I'm not sure what your gripe is with the owner. He came in, got Warnock back which looked impossible, got rid at the right time. We'll wait and see if he makes the next change in good time. If he didn't give a fuck about Town it would have been a hell of a lot cheaper to get someone other than Warnock to start with, and to turn a blind eye to his antics so he didn't have to pay his full year up and appoint another set of staff on 3 year deals. How did he get rid at the right time ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2023 20:28:29 GMT 1
As said elsewhere, Americans don't understand relegation. Nagle will probably suggest cheerleaders. I mean this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Why make a sweeping generalisation like that? What do you hope to achieve with such a comment? The guy has been in the club 2 fucking minutes. I genuinely believe some fans won't be happy until we have been ground to dust simply so they can say I told you so. You really, really love the YOO-ESS-AY, don't you, Ern šš |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 13, 2023 20:34:13 GMT 1
I mean this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Why make a sweeping generalisation like that? What do you hope to achieve with such a comment? The guy has been in the club 2 fucking minutes. I genuinely believe some fans won't be happy until we have been ground to dust simply so they can say I told you so. You really, really love the YOO-ESS-AY, don't you, Ern šš I've never been, I just don't see why supporters are getting personal. It solves nothing other than to make us look like a bunch of knuckle dragging Tommy Robinson apologists. By all means piss and moan about the state of the club and the diatribe on the pitch but don't make it personal. KN can't do a thing now other than sack Moore and blow a substantial amount of money paying him off, therefore negatively affevting the playing budget so let's see what January brings. |
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Post by clydeshalfarm on Dec 13, 2023 20:43:24 GMT 1
Shut up you big attention seeking baby your always moaning and when anyone disagrees with you block them. Just go back to bed with your dummy and get your mum to tuck you in. Happy to block you. Pathetic little man |
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 13, 2023 20:43:55 GMT 1
They don't. It was clear to many that there must have been other factors going on and he wasn't sacked for football reasons. The club handled it with class by giving him his press conference and farewell match etc, not muddying his name at all. Sharing screenshots of private messages between the owner and yourself will help absolutely no-one. God knows what Kevin was thinking sending you any confidential information in the first place. Given your knowledge of this information, I'm not sure what your gripe is with the owner. He came in, got Warnock back which looked impossible, got rid at the right time. We'll wait and see if he makes the next change in good time. If he didn't give a fuck about Town it would have been a hell of a lot cheaper to get someone other than Warnock to start with, and to turn a blind eye to his antics so he didn't have to pay his full year up and appoint another set of staff on 3 year deals. How did he get rid at the right time ? If he'd waited any longer we might have missed out on our top target for the manager's job long term. |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2023 20:57:25 GMT 1
You really, really love the YOO-ESS-AY, don't you, Ern šš I've never been, I just don't see why supporters are getting personal. It solves nothing other than to make us look like a bunch of knuckle dragging Tommy Robinson apologists. By all means piss and moan about the state of the club and the diatribe on the pitch but don't make it personal. KN can't do a thing now other than sack Moore and blow a substantial amount of money paying him off, therefore negatively affevting the playing budget so let's see what January brings. But it wasn't a personal jibe, do they have relegation and promotion in any US sports š¤·. Why would he know the dangers relegation brings if it's not something he's any experience of š¤· |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2023 21:00:24 GMT 1
This is only your 2nd post since September, both have been having a go at Dunc and the one in September was about how wonderful Moore was š¤ |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2023 21:01:14 GMT 1
How did he get rid at the right time ? If he'd waited any longer we might have missed out on our top target for the manager's job long term. Wouldn't that have been a pisser š¤£š¤£š¤£ |
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Post by Dan on Dec 13, 2023 21:03:18 GMT 1
This is only your 2nd post since September, both have been having a go at Dunc and the one in September was about how wonderful Moore was š¤ And he was posting in 2011 about whether Donal McDermott should go out on loan or not, what's your point? |
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Post by clydeshalfarm on Dec 13, 2023 21:05:24 GMT 1
This is only your 2nd post since September, both have been having a go at Dunc and the one in September was about how wonderful Moore was š¤ And your point is ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2023 21:09:57 GMT 1
This is only your 2nd post since September, both have been having a go at Dunc and the one in September was about how wonderful Moore was š¤ And he was posting in 2011 about whether Donal McDermott should go out on loan or not, what's your point? Nowt really, just seems odd to go on about how great Moore is then nothing for 3 months as the arse drops out of the club but then to come back with 2 posts that are personal digs. Sorry, I'll remember to ask your permission next time before I post owtš |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2023 21:11:00 GMT 1
This is only your 2nd post since September, both have been having a go at Dunc and the one in September was about how wonderful Moore was š¤ And your point is ? Have you not had anything to say about how wonderful he's been in the last 3 months ? Edit : Shit, forgot to ask Dan's permission to post this š«£ |
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Post by clydeshalfarm on Dec 13, 2023 21:18:06 GMT 1
Have you not had anything to say about how wonderful he's been in the last 3 months ? Edit : Shit, forgot to ask Dan's permission to post this š«£ I think he will come good just needs some support in the transfer market but I agree results havenāt been great and performances have been boring. Regardless Duncan is an attention seeking baby drama queen on all platforms. |
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Post by mosher on Dec 14, 2023 10:14:11 GMT 1
Says someone with a username mocking an ex-player's injury  |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 14, 2023 10:24:25 GMT 1
A bust up with a senior player isnāt going to help his caseā¦
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 10:32:06 GMT 1
A bust up with a senior player isnāt going to help his caseā¦ I have obviously missed something here. Which particular player and is this a recent event? |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 14, 2023 10:33:19 GMT 1
A bust up with a senior player isnāt going to help his caseā¦ I have obviously missed something here. Which particular player and is this a recent event? Half time Tuesday. Not going to name the player out of confidence to those itās been leaked to. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 10:33:27 GMT 1
Thanks to Duncan for another Moore Out thread. It was obvious the campaign was starting to lose momentum.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Dec 14, 2023 10:37:52 GMT 1
I have obviously missed something here. Which particular player and is this a recent event? Half time Tuesday. Not going to name the player out of confidence to those itās been leaked to. In fairness to the players (who haven't been great let's be honest). They're probably sick to death of the managerial circus that is going on above them. They finally get a manager they can respond to and he's replaced suddenly with someone vastly inferior. I honestly believe they have tried to play for Moore but it seems like they are giving up on him which is a situation that wont be salvaged. The club is an absolute shit show. |
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Post by Dan on Dec 14, 2023 10:39:27 GMT 1
I have obviously missed something here. Which particular player and is this a recent event? Half time Tuesday. Not going to name the player out of confidence to those itās been leaked to. 46': Tom Lees <-- Yuta Nakayama --> |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 10:40:41 GMT 1
I have obviously missed something here. Which particular player and is this a recent event? Half time Tuesday. Not going to name the player out of confidence to those itās been leaked to. Yes, but it's this sort of crap that just makes things more toxic. Everyone will think it was Lees because he got subbed. How would naming the player betray any confidence when it is obvious who people will think it is, possibly incorrectly and with no evidence it happened. Moore makes changes to try and make us more effective going forward but falls out with a 'senior' player in the process. Which 'senior' player was having a good game on Tuesday other than Hogg? It seems to me it's another 'throw in a hand grenade and close the door' post. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 14, 2023 10:42:49 GMT 1
Half time Tuesday. Not going to name the player out of confidence to those itās been leaked to. Yes, but it's this sort of crap that just makes things more toxic. Everyone will think it was Lees because he got subbed. How would naming the player betray any confidence when it is obvious who people will think it is, possibly incorrectly and with no evidence it happened. Moore makes changes to try and make us more effective going forward but falls out with a 'senior' player in the process. Which 'senior' player was having a good game on Tuesday other than Hogg? It seems to me it's another 'throw in a hand grenade and close the door' post. Would you prefer things not to be shared? If so thatās fine however I believe and many others feel the same that the fans have a right to know. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 10:51:43 GMT 1
Half time Tuesday. Not going to name the player out of confidence to those itās been leaked to. In fairness to the players (who haven't been great let's be honest). They're probably sick to death of the managerial circus that is going on above them. They finally get a manager they can respond to and he's replaced suddenly with someone vastly inferior. I honestly believe they have tried to play for Moore but it seems like they are giving up on him which is a situation that wont be salvaged. The club is an absolute shit show. If that is the case the players owe it to the supporters to do their best. Most of these players have had 5 managers in less than 2 years. 3 different sets of training coaches, 4 if you add any Fotheringham brought in, so I understand it is damned hard for them. However it is also very hard for DM and his staff. He has inherited a poor squad, his options have been very limited, especially with the injuries we have had and still have. I don't know how good he and his staff are and I know following Warnock, given the way the squad obviously thought about him, must be really hard. Feelings will be running high and there will be a lot of pressure, not helped by the boo boys. The 'shit show' at the club is not the fault of anyone currently here, management, coaches, players or us but we all have to try and get through it and I think constant sniping and unsubstantiated rumours of bust ups is very unhelpful. |
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Dec 14, 2023 10:51:55 GMT 1
Yes, but it's this sort of crap that just makes things more toxic. Everyone will think it was Lees because he got subbed. How would naming the player betray any confidence when it is obvious who people will think it is, possibly incorrectly and with no evidence it happened. Moore makes changes to try and make us more effective going forward but falls out with a 'senior' player in the process. Which 'senior' player was having a good game on Tuesday other than Hogg? It seems to me it's another 'throw in a hand grenade and close the door' post. Would you prefer things not to be shared? If so thatās fine however I believe and many others feel the same that the fans have a right to know. I think most of us want to know. Thank you for sharing. By ignoring the toxicity at the club we'd be sweeping it under the carpet, letting it set. It's good to be aware, and to interrogate what is happening. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Dec 14, 2023 11:14:40 GMT 1
Half time Tuesday. Not going to name the player out of confidence to those itās been leaked to. 46': Tom Lees <-- Yuta Nakayama --> The same Tom Lees who's very pally with Hogg, so that's going to go well  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 12:38:03 GMT 1
Would you prefer things not to be shared? If so thatās fine however I believe and many others feel the same that the fans have a right to know. I think most of us want to know. Thank you for sharing. By ignoring the toxicity at the club we'd be sweeping it under the carpet, letting it set. It's good to be aware, and to interrogate what is happening.Ā Itās all rumour though. The only toxicity I can see is from the fans. Everything else is just social media garble. Also how are we interrogating what is happening? All this does is add to the issues we actually know about. |
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Dec 14, 2023 13:35:01 GMT 1
I think most of us want to know. Thank you for sharing. By ignoring the toxicity at the club we'd be sweeping it under the carpet, letting it set. It's good to be aware, and to interrogate what is happening. Itās all rumour though. The only toxicity I can see is from the fans. Everything else is just social media garble. Also how are we interrogating what is happening? All this does is add to the issues we actually know about. I get your point, but I'm not sure it is the responsibility of fans to distinguish between rumour and truth. If there was a bust up, then someone at the club has leaked it - if there wasn't a bust up, then someone has made it up. Either way, the fans receiving the information cannot verify it unless the club comes out to confirm or deny (which isn't going to happen). I tend to think that the numerous issues we have at the club related to on-the-pitch affairs: bad performances, weak squad, poor coaching, questionable medical dept... only reinforce the likelihood that there was indeed a bust up, after all. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Dec 14, 2023 13:47:42 GMT 1
Football teams all over the land have bust ups in the dressing room every week, I'd be more concerned if words weren't exchanged.
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