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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 22:16:52 GMT 1
One of the people I sit with want him gone. They are not 100% convinced, but they are also aware the squad is weak beyond the first choice 11. Carlos went 3 wins in 27, if it wasn't for lock down I'm sure he'd have gone, but he made it to a second season and 90 mins from Premier league. Carlos was tactically superb. Moore has one system and plays it even though he doesn't have the players to carry it off He had the ability to change systems multiple times during a game, something we've not seen very often here. Does Moore even have a system? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 15, 2024 22:18:51 GMT 1
And how would he know who the old youth team lads were? I'm a supporter of 40+ years and I wouldn't know who they were. I imagine he was informed that said reality TV show bloke was in there, so it would have been good if he'd been informed about who else was in there. It isn't a criticism. I wouldn't have known any of the ex youth team, even though I played against Maitland when I was a kid but I've absolutely no idea who the reality TV bloke is either 🤷 |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 15, 2024 22:20:13 GMT 1
You have yours, I have mine, others have theirs. Nobodies is any more/less valid than anybody else’s on a message board like this. Ultimately if the majority of fans want Moore gone it is a matter of time as is the way with football managers. It's obvious who he's referring to 😂 Putting himself down like that 😁 |
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Post by andyeastleake on Jan 15, 2024 22:36:18 GMT 1
See the “Fan confidence vote on Moore thread” it is at something like 315 no, 25 yes. That is a fairly sizeable survey which will no doubt give a fairly accurate representation of the wider fan base. The numbers quite clearly suggest that most fans are in the no camp. So 340 votes, how many season ticket holders are there 🤔 Like I said, this forum is a very small X section of fan base, and those who want to complain are usually the most vocal. DATM is perhaps an arguably small section % wise, but I can't really see any reason why it wouldn't be representative (only barrier I can see is use of a computer, which TBH isn't really much of a barrier any more). A sample size of 340 is generally considered adequate, and when the sample is saying 90% plus he should go, I think you're clutching at straws to suggest there isn't strong evidence to suggest the majority of the fanbase have had enough of him. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 15, 2024 22:37:01 GMT 1
One of the people I sit with want him gone. They are not 100% convinced, but they are also aware the squad is weak beyond the first choice 11. Carlos went 3 wins in 27, if it wasn't for lock down I'm sure he'd have gone, but he made it to a second season and 90 mins from Premier league. Carlos was tactically superb. Moore has one system and plays it even though he doesn't have the players to carry it off Carlos’ team scored about 5, full length of the pitch, sweeping, passing counter attacks in the first few months. Goals unlike any I’ve ever seen us score. Yes, they were offset by some defending that Barry Chuckle would be embarrassed about, but it showed he had something about him. The players also thought he was ‘shit hot’ as Big Phil liked to tell us. Contrast that to DM and the murmurs of player discontent at his abilities. There really is no comparison. |
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Post by shawsie on Jan 15, 2024 22:38:50 GMT 1
One of the people I sit with want him gone. They are not 100% convinced, but they are also aware the squad is weak beyond the first choice 11. Carlos went 3 wins in 27, if it wasn't for lock down I'm sure he'd have gone, but he made it to a second season and 90 mins from Premier league. Carlos was tactically superb. Moore has one system and plays it even though he doesn't have the players to carry it off Carlos learned pragmatism - yr 1 we were so open and easy to play agaibst but the improvement in yr 2 was impressive. Moore is just boring us to tears |
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Post by space hardware on Jan 15, 2024 22:47:00 GMT 1
Not everyone prefers to turn up at 5 to 3. I’ve always arrived at the ground at least an hour before kick off - I like to see the build up to the game, the warm up’s etc. But it’s not just me - there’s loads of people who like to do the same and until the club decided to improve things with the fanzone etc there were no facilities and no where for the club to capitalise on increasing revenue. I often arrive at the same time as the “away” coaches - it’s embarrassing that when asked questions like “ where is there to get food?” you have to direct them up to the less than appealing town centre. Closer than the town centre there's: Pizza Hut Greggs Subway Burger King Yoh Burger These are all what you'd consider in the direct vicinity of the ground. Further afield but still probably walkable: KFC McDonald's Slim pickings, for sure, but no away fan needs to get on Shanks' Pony and schlep back into the town centre for food. |
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Post by space hardware on Jan 15, 2024 22:48:45 GMT 1
Carlos was tactically superb. Moore has one system and plays it even though he doesn't have the players to carry it off Carlos’ team scored about 5, full length of the pitch, sweeping, passing counter attacks in the first few months. Goals unlike any I’ve ever seen us score. Yes, they were offset by some defending that Barry Chuckle would be embarrassed about, but it showed he had something about him. The players also thought he was ‘shit hot’ as Big Phil liked to tell us. Contrast that to DM and the murmurs of player discontent at his abilities. There really is no comparison. There was an Eiting header at the end of a full length of the field move that was just amazing. Can't remember who it was against though 😬😁 |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 15, 2024 22:48:49 GMT 1
Carlos was tactically superb. Moore has one system and plays it even though he doesn't have the players to carry it off Carlos learned pragmatism - yr 1 we were so open and easy to play agaibst but the improvement in yr 2 was impressive. Moore is just boring us to tears Comparing the two Corberan is a chess grandmaster and Moore is sat playing snakes and ladders. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 22:50:54 GMT 1
...and all of Scottish cuisine is based on a dare. "Deep fried chocolate bars" sounds like a dare, and when you hear the ingredients in a Haggis you'd think the same, but they're genuinely bloody marvellous. Deep fried pizza however is an abomination. I've had all three - haggis many, many times (Burns Night incoming!), and there's only one I'd never touch again. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 15, 2024 22:54:10 GMT 1
I will be doing. But you are missing the point. Bleat on and on like you do, people stop listening. Defeats your purpose really doesn't it. That's not a question by the way, cos I won't see the answer . 😉 People don't listen anyway, their minds are made up as soon as they see the poster's name. Funny, really. My mind genuinely isn't made up from seeing your user name, or anyone else's for that matter. I have absolutely no doubt you have the best intentions and love the club so we have that in common. My issue is that the shit on the pitch and what is trying to be improved off of it are mutually exclusive. We should be constructive and patient regarding the owner because he is clearly trying to do everything he can to make this club a better place. Calling him a yank (which I'm not saying you have by the way) or tearing into anything he tries to achieve just is not constructive and actually could have a negative effect. Having a good old rant on a forum about what you have seen on the pitch is fine because at the end of the day you pay your money and you expect to be given a better quality product. Taking aim at efforts to improve anything else is in my humble opinion not a good thing. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 22:57:03 GMT 1
People don't listen anyway, their minds are made up as soon as they see the poster's name. Funny, really. My mind genuinely isn't made up from seeing your user name, or anyone else's for that matter. I have absolutely no doubt you have the best intentions and love the club so we have that in common. My issue is that the shit on the pitch and what is trying to be improved off of it are mutually exclusive. We should be constructive and patient regarding the owner because he is clearly trying to do everything he can to make this club a better place. Calling him a yank (which I'm not saying you have by the way) or tearing into anything he tries to achieve just is not constructive and actually could have a negative effect. Having a good old rant on a forum about what you have seen on the pitch is fine because at the end of the day you pay your money and you expect to be given a better quality product. Taking aim at efforts to improve anything else is in my humble opinion not a good thing. As I've pointed out to you, and literally posted more in the last hour, I have praised the club for stuff they've done recently. You've been accusing me of being "constantly negative" for months now, despite me posting praise and positive stuff about the club. Even in this thread. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 15, 2024 23:15:05 GMT 1
My mind genuinely isn't made up from seeing your user name, or anyone else's for that matter. I have absolutely no doubt you have the best intentions and love the club so we have that in common. My issue is that the shit on the pitch and what is trying to be improved off of it are mutually exclusive. We should be constructive and patient regarding the owner because he is clearly trying to do everything he can to make this club a better place. Calling him a yank (which I'm not saying you have by the way) or tearing into anything he tries to achieve just is not constructive and actually could have a negative effect. Having a good old rant on a forum about what you have seen on the pitch is fine because at the end of the day you pay your money and you expect to be given a better quality product. Taking aim at efforts to improve anything else is in my humble opinion not a good thing. As I've pointed out to you, and literally posted more in the last hour, I have praised the club for stuff they've done recently. You've been accusing me of being "constantly negative" for months now, despite me posting praise and positive stuff about the club. Even in this thread. Sorry I must have missed the positive post in this thread because I can't find it. Fair play if you have. |
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Post by King Neil on Jan 15, 2024 23:15:32 GMT 1
I wouldn't call a forum member who interviews ex players negative..just passionate about the club and what's happening on the pitch
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Post by workshyfop on Jan 15, 2024 23:26:12 GMT 1
Carlos was tactically superb. Moore has one system and plays it even though he doesn't have the players to carry it off He had the ability to change systems multiple times during a game, something we've not seen very often here. Does Moore even have a system? You hate Corberan, don’t you? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 23:32:20 GMT 1
He had the ability to change systems multiple times during a game, something we've not seen very often here. Does Moore even have a system? You hate Corberan, don’t you? As a person, yes. What relevance is that to my post? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 23:33:51 GMT 1
As I've pointed out to you, and literally posted more in the last hour, I have praised the club for stuff they've done recently. You've been accusing me of being "constantly negative" for months now, despite me posting praise and positive stuff about the club. Even in this thread. Sorry I must have missed the positive post in this thread because I can't find it. Fair play if you have. Missed it, or ignored it? |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 15, 2024 23:41:59 GMT 1
Sorry I must have missed the positive post in this thread because I can't find it. Fair play if you have. Missed it, or ignored it? Nope simply can't find it |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 23:45:05 GMT 1
Top man Dave. Name me another club in the top 2 leagues that essentially has a direct link to the owner through a fans messageboard and Twitter. Remember jackass ? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 23:48:20 GMT 1
Missed it, or ignored it? Nope simply can't find it As I said earlier, you choose to only see the negatives. But that's fine, if that's what you want to do, then fair enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 23:48:34 GMT 1
One of the reasons I was walking around was observing concessions. In fact, someone caught me timing beer pours. On average it took 38.8 seconds from the time one got to the front of the line until the time they walked away. The staff are working hard and doing the best they can, but I assure you this is a great point of interest, and things like self-pour and eliminating point of contact sale, along with pre-poured pints are all being looked at. Bottom line- noticed, acknowledged, and will get better, and that’s just one of many “non-obvious” things they are working on to improve your experience. Superb response. Also, get Guinness on tap please. We used to have it in the old LB lower tier going back 20 plus years. |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Jan 15, 2024 23:49:48 GMT 1
You hate Corberan, don’t you? As a person, yes. What relevance is that to my post? He is a nice fella Carlos. |
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Post by Dan on Jan 15, 2024 23:49:59 GMT 1
Top man Dave. Name me another club in the top 2 leagues that essentially has a direct link to the owner through a fans messageboard and Twitter. Remember jackass ? Remember him posting now and again, but just checked the posting history and hadn't seen that first post before  That must have been Danny's account originally haha |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 23:51:54 GMT 1
As a person, yes. What relevance is that to my post? He is a nice fella Carlos. I'm sure he is. Still not sure what the relevance is to my post about Corberan switching systems multiple times during games. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 15, 2024 23:55:33 GMT 1
So 340 votes, how many season ticket holders are there 🤔 Like I said, this forum is a very small X section of fan base, and those who want to complain are usually the most vocal. DATM is perhaps an arguably small section % wise, but I can't really see any reason why it wouldn't be representative (only barrier I can see is use of a computer, which TBH isn't really much of a barrier any more). A sample size of 340 is generally considered adequate, and when the sample is saying 90% plus he should go, I think you're clutching at straws to suggest there isn't strong evidence to suggest the majority of the fanbase have had enough of him. The poll in addition to the number of general comments on here against vs for, the amount of comments on twitter which are against v for (simple “htafc Darren Moore” search) along with on a personal level, 5 out of the 6 town fans I know against. As you say clutching at straws. The majority have had enough and by all accounts from replies to my earlier posts the club are aware. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 16, 2024 0:00:05 GMT 1
Nope simply can't find it As I said earlier, you choose to only see the negatives. But that's fine, if that's what you want to do, then fair enough. I know what I can see in front of me so let's just leave it at that. What I will say though is that I agree with you that some people are intentionally starting arguments with you which appears to be evidenced above. I'm not sure where the Corberan thing has come from. |
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Post by trotsky on Jan 16, 2024 1:15:29 GMT 1
...and all of Scottish cuisine is based on a dare. "Deep fried chocolate bars" sounds like a dare, and when you hear the ingredients in a Haggis you'd think the same, but they're genuinely bloody marvellous. Deep fried pizza however is an abomination.
I had one of those once. Went into a chippy in Edinburgh in the '90s and was pleasantly surprised that they did pizza, so I ordered one with chips. Just as I was looking around for the pizza oven, bloke serving gets a small, white circular thing out of a freezer and chucks it into the deep fat fryer. When it came out it was strangely brown in colour (or should that be color  ) but I must admit it didn't taste too bad, and it was also part of a hangover cure! |
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Post by jmmynick on Jan 16, 2024 5:18:41 GMT 1
Regarding Beer pouring the club should have a look at Headingley Cricket ground. They have six pint fast pourers. Went for a beer as the bars were closing and found about 6 lines totalling about 100 people. Thought it would take forever but only 5 minutes later six pints in hand. Most of the people in the queue were buying 6 at a time. All served straight into carriers so one person could easily carry back to their seats.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 16, 2024 6:27:44 GMT 1
People don't listen anyway, their minds are made up as soon as they see the poster's name. Funny, really. My mind genuinely isn't made up from seeing your user name, or anyone else's for that matter. I have absolutely no doubt you have the best intentions and love the club so we have that in common. My issue is that the shit on the pitch and what is trying to be improved off of it are mutually exclusive. We should be constructive and patient regarding the owner because he is clearly trying to do everything he can to make this club a better place. Calling him a yank (which I'm not saying you have by the way) or tearing into anything he tries to achieve just is not constructive and actually could have a negative effect. Having a good old rant on a forum about what you have seen on the pitch is fine because at the end of the day you pay your money and you expect to be given a better quality product. Taking aim at efforts to improve anything else is in my humble opinion not a good thing. Why do you seem to think calling an American, a Yank is offensive ? Do you get upset when folk from the penal colony are called Aussies 🤷 |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 16, 2024 8:01:25 GMT 1
My mind genuinely isn't made up from seeing your user name, or anyone else's for that matter. I have absolutely no doubt you have the best intentions and love the club so we have that in common. My issue is that the shit on the pitch and what is trying to be improved off of it are mutually exclusive. We should be constructive and patient regarding the owner because he is clearly trying to do everything he can to make this club a better place. Calling him a yank (which I'm not saying you have by the way) or tearing into anything he tries to achieve just is not constructive and actually could have a negative effect. Having a good old rant on a forum about what you have seen on the pitch is fine because at the end of the day you pay your money and you expect to be given a better quality product. Taking aim at efforts to improve anything else is in my humble opinion not a good thing. Why do you seem to think calling an American, a Yank is offensive ? Do you get upset when folk from the penal colony are called Aussies 🤷 This has been mentioned before. But depending on where a person is from in the US, it is offensive to call them a 'yank' |
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That must have been Danny's account originally haha
) but I must admit it didn't taste too bad, and it was also part of a hangover cure!