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Post by twang on Feb 15, 2024 9:12:21 GMT 1
I was told by someone who is presumably in the know that it's Worthys for rest of season.
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Post by digs on Feb 15, 2024 9:24:34 GMT 1
I was told by someone who is presumably in the know that it's Worthys for rest of season. did he tell you twice |
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Post by detox on Feb 15, 2024 9:34:53 GMT 1
JW did say he wouldn't dismiss being prepared to see the season through, so a slight change in the language from previously where he intimated he was only a 'short term' solution..
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Post by Yesss on Feb 15, 2024 9:38:22 GMT 1
Seeing a lot that want Worthy to have it until the end of the season however, if it’s only until the end of the season I’d rather someone new comes in and Worthy go back to what he was doing. That would mean we’re recruiting again in the summer for a new manager and the academy project would stall. If Worthy’s going to have it, give him a 2 and a half year deal and give him the tools to move the club forward and go get someone new for the academy manager role. Would much rather that than messing about again getting someone else in the summer.
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Post by detox on Feb 15, 2024 9:40:57 GMT 1
I was told by someone who is presumably in the know that it's Worthys for rest of season. Again ? |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Feb 15, 2024 9:41:00 GMT 1
If Kev and co are not satisfied yet with who's been interviewed then give it Worthy until the end of the season, there will be plenty more options come the start of summer. We just need to retain our Championship status which we will do under JW.
Then let him go back to his previous role.
Oh and we can also tell Cartwright to swivel.
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Post by steo1986 on Feb 15, 2024 9:43:45 GMT 1
Seeing a lot that want Worthy to have it until the end of the season however, if it’s only until the end of the season I’d rather someone new comes in and Worthy go back to what he was doing. That would mean we’re recruiting again in the summer for a new manager and the academy project would stall. If Worthy’s going to have it, give him a 2 and a half year deal and give him the tools to move the club forward and go get someone new for the academy manager role. Would much rather that than messing about again getting someone else in the summer. Why would you give him a 2 year contract when he dosent want the job full time! He’s changed his tune regarding end of season because them at the top haven’t got a manager in place for what ever reasons that may be! If nothing is close to happening get worthy till end of season then bring the new manager in well before pre season starts, games are ticking away and if we play like we have for past 2 games it’s positive and well worth the gamble keeping worthy |
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Post by detox on Feb 15, 2024 9:47:32 GMT 1
Seeing a lot that want Worthy to have it until the end of the season however, if it’s only until the end of the season I’d rather someone new comes in and Worthy go back to what he was doing. That would mean we’re recruiting again in the summer for a new manager and the academy project would stall. If Worthy’s going to have it, give him a 2 and a half year deal and give him the tools to move the club forward and go get someone new for the academy manager role. Would much rather that than messing about again getting someone else in the summer. Depends if we have the 'right man' available to us for the managers job, which at the moment seems like we haven't. Besides that JW has already said he doesn't want the job permanently.
Just feels now that JW has the team playing much better and to replace him with a total newcomer who doesn't know the squad would be foolhardy.We haven't enough games left to risk a newbie coming in and changing everything. If JW had suffered 3 bad losses I'd think different, but he's transformed the team so why change things ?
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Post by King Neil on Feb 15, 2024 9:48:52 GMT 1
You now seriously have to question mark Cartwrights decision making...how on earth did a bloke that can barely string a sentence together without half a dozen erms included get past the interview stage??
Cartwright needs to be gone ASAP...to stick by a man who says he doesn't have the playing staff to play positive attacking football for 23 games is criminal
We will now finish comfortably in mid table under jon Worthington...NO LIMITS!!
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Post by ebargum on Feb 15, 2024 9:51:54 GMT 1
Seeing a lot that want Worthy to have it until the end of the season however, if it’s only until the end of the season I’d rather someone new comes in and Worthy go back to what he was doing. That would mean we’re recruiting again in the summer for a new manager and the academy project would stall. If Worthy’s going to have it, give him a 2 and a half year deal and give him the tools to move the club forward and go get someone new for the academy manager role. Would much rather that than messing about again getting someone else in the summer. That's the only part of this post which I agree with. He can return to his Academy role and the best time to appoint a manager is in the summer - I don't see it as 'messing about again'. He's said he doesn't want to be Manager but stepping in for a bit and helping the club is a different matter |
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Post by Hazza on Feb 15, 2024 9:55:41 GMT 1
If Saturday goes well (win or entertaining draw) I am now minded to give Worthy the role until the end of the season.
If the rest of the season goes well and he still doesn't fancy the job insecurity that the manager's job entails (I imagine that's what's concerning him) then promise him the Sporting Director Job so he can oversee this style of football continuing.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Feb 15, 2024 10:02:02 GMT 1
If securing our championship status is the thing that would persuade the best manager to join us then I would keep this situation in place until that is achieved.
How many points will be needed to stay up? 46ish? That's another 4 wins, 5 to be absolutely sure, we could be safe by the March International break if we keep this up!
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 15, 2024 10:12:24 GMT 1
I was told by someone who is presumably in the know that it's Worthys for rest of season. Was it Fred Elliot? |
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Post by Yesss on Feb 15, 2024 10:17:57 GMT 1
Seeing a lot that want Worthy to have it until the end of the season however, if it’s only until the end of the season I’d rather someone new comes in and Worthy go back to what he was doing. That would mean we’re recruiting again in the summer for a new manager and the academy project would stall. If Worthy’s going to have it, give him a 2 and a half year deal and give him the tools to move the club forward and go get someone new for the academy manager role. Would much rather that than messing about again getting someone else in the summer. That's the only part of this post which I agree with. He can return to his Academy role and the best time to appoint a manager is in the summer - I don't see it as 'messing about again'. He's said he doesn't want to be Manager but stepping in for a bit and helping the club is a different matter Everyone has their own opinion. We would be messing about, because we’ve employed Moore, sacked him. Then to give it to Worthy until the end of the season, then employ another manager is messing about. Big time. |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 15, 2024 10:18:28 GMT 1
One thing for me now, I want JW still in the dugout V Leeds!
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Post by Yesss on Feb 15, 2024 10:20:06 GMT 1
Seeing a lot that want Worthy to have it until the end of the season however, if it’s only until the end of the season I’d rather someone new comes in and Worthy go back to what he was doing. That would mean we’re recruiting again in the summer for a new manager and the academy project would stall. If Worthy’s going to have it, give him a 2 and a half year deal and give him the tools to move the club forward and go get someone new for the academy manager role. Would much rather that than messing about again getting someone else in the summer. Why would you give him a 2 year contract when he dosent want the job full time! He’s changed his tune regarding end of season because them at the top haven’t got a manager in place for what ever reasons that may be! If nothing is close to happening get worthy till end of season then bring the new manager in well before pre season starts, games are ticking away and if we play like we have for past 2 games it’s positive and well worth the gamble keeping worthy If he doesn’t want the job full time, why would he want it until the end of the season? Doing it for a few games compared to 4 months is a big difference. Fans banging on saying give him it until the season finishes, has he ever said he would do it until then? No. He’s simply said he’s happy to help out, not ‘I’ll have it until May lads don’t worry about it’. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 15, 2024 10:24:22 GMT 1
One thing for me now, I want JW still in the dugout V Leeds! Would be lovely to see another Mgr with a surname starting with W running down the touchline on the 2nd March… |
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Post by detox on Feb 15, 2024 10:24:34 GMT 1
If securing our championship status is the thing that would persuade the best manager to join us then I would keep this situation in place until that is achieved. How many points will be needed to stay up? 46ish? That's another 4 wins, 5 to be absolutely sure, we could be safe by the March International break of we keep this up! I'd like to see us well clear, and safe by mid April... 10 games, 6 of which are very winnable (Hull,Watford, Cardiff, Rotherham, Stoke, Millwall) ....then we can chill during the last 5 games... 52 points would see us mid table. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 15, 2024 10:26:16 GMT 1
You now seriously have to question mark Cartwrights decision making...how on earth did a bloke that can barely string a sentence together without half a dozen erms included get past the interview stage?? Cartwright needs to be gone ASAP...to stick by a man who says he doesn't have the playing staff to play positive attacking football for 23 games is criminal We will now finish comfortably in mid table under jon Worthington...NO LIMITS!! Tbf Bromby and Hoyle also appointed a bloke who couldn’t string a sentence together. I’ll never understand it, I don’t expect everyone to have Warnock-esque charisma and media skills, but surely a base level of intellect is required when you sit there and interview a candidate. With regards to Cartwright, in his credit Balker looks like a serious find and Burgzorg is mental but potentially destructive at this level so at least that’s a positive. |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 15, 2024 10:27:22 GMT 1
One thing for me now, I want JW still in the dugout V Leeds! Would be lovely to see another Mgr with a surname starting with W running down the touchline on the 2nd March… From an injury time winner by a H.... in this instance Hogg, Headley Healey or Helik. |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Feb 15, 2024 10:28:53 GMT 1
I don’t want worthy full time simply because of it does go tits up he’s heading out of the door like Schofield
but we would be fools not to give it him until the end of the season whilst we look for the right man
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 15, 2024 10:29:04 GMT 1
One thing for me now, I want JW still in the dugout V Leeds! Makes sense as well from the perspective of do you want your new man to likely suffer an early home loss against those tossers and the negativity that would follow. Rightly or wrongly Moore was a dead man walking after Leeds away. |
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Post by paulmat on Feb 15, 2024 10:44:57 GMT 1
Given the situation now, and assuming that they don't have an outstanding candidate lined up, I'd break it into blocks of games. Give Worthington the next three for now, Hull at home, Watford away, Leeds at home. If we're still going well give him until the international break, which will mean taking Cardiff away, West Brom at home and Rotherham away. Then you either give it him for the rest of the season at that point, or if things have started to fall away you've got a last resort option of a new manager getting the international break and the final 8 games. I'm still of the opinion that confirming him until the end of the season is a big risk at this stage, but also now of the opinion that bringing in a new manager while we're going really well could be counter productive as well.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Feb 15, 2024 10:55:32 GMT 1
Perhaps whoever we want is on the cusp of success this season and wants to finish the job first.
We’re gradually getting to a point where we can afford to wait. In fact, with a happy team playing the way they want to play, it may even be more of a risk not to let Worthy see it out.
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Post by terrier10 on Feb 15, 2024 10:58:33 GMT 1
As caretaker manager he’s filling in game by game.
No need to put a timeframe on things…just keep game by game and keep adding points to the table whilst we sort out the long term fit.
It doesn’t need any timeframe allocated to it - just keep the players motivated and working hard and buy the time for the next appointment.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 15, 2024 11:21:26 GMT 1
Why would you give him a 2 year contract when he dosent want the job full time! He’s changed his tune regarding end of season because them at the top haven’t got a manager in place for what ever reasons that may be! If nothing is close to happening get worthy till end of season then bring the new manager in well before pre season starts, games are ticking away and if we play like we have for past 2 games it’s positive and well worth the gamble keeping worthy Doing it for a few games compared to 4 months is a big difference. Fans banging on saying give him it until the season finishes, has he ever said he would do it until then? No. He’s simply said he’s happy to help out, not ‘I’ll have it until May lads don’t worry about it’. Possibly because he doesn't want to lose the academy job? |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Feb 15, 2024 11:23:00 GMT 1
Just a thought... If Worthington does it till the end of the season, who looks after the academy?
The coaches helping JW are all the academy coaches too.
We can't exactly bring in people to backfill their spots if they are going to return.
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Post by incognito on Feb 15, 2024 11:37:04 GMT 1
As caretaker manager he’s filling in game by game. No need to put a timeframe on things…just keep game by game and keep adding points to the table whilst we sort out the long term fit. It doesn’t need any timeframe allocated to it - just keep the players motivated and working hard and buy the time for the next appointment. I was just coming to write something similar. He's got the job until further notice. No need to put a label or fixed timeframe on it and risk changing the existing dynamic where everyone is approaching things with such freedom. A couple of weeks ago there was a palpable sense of urgency in getting the new man in to shock the team out of the rut it was in and keep us afloat this season. Thankfully the interim crew seem to have provided the jump start we needed. While still taking absolutely nothing for granted, the preparatory work for next season can go on in the background with a bit more optimism. Having the next permanent manager in place (or at least identified) before the end of this season would be extremely beneficial for squad planning (both retention and recruitment). Similarly, any work they were able to get in with the team before the summer would be a head start for next year, rather than starting from scratch on day #1 of pre-season. |
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Post by ram on Feb 15, 2024 11:39:20 GMT 1
Outstanding candidates cost big bucks!
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Post by goodbet on Feb 15, 2024 11:43:56 GMT 1
Outstanding candidates cost big bucks! Rubbish ones can cost you a lot more (or is that Moore). Here for a few games and then having to pay them off, if they don't relegate you first. |
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