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Post by runner76 on Jan 30, 2024 12:18:25 GMT 1
So, the same people that appointed DM will be selecting the next manager? I keep seeing this, but remember under Hoyle, we appointed Chris Powell and then David Wagner. Why are we so quick to judge the new regime because they got 1 appointment wrong? Exactly......they have also recruited what seems to be reasonable players in a difficult window.....it did not work out with Moore, so they learn, improve and move forwards.....or if the next one is no good they are all moved on... |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 30, 2024 12:20:53 GMT 1
So, the same people that appointed DM will be selecting the next manager? You might as well say,, "The same people who appointed Chris Powell, will be selecting the next manager"! we heavily relied on an external company and the stats provided to appoint Darren Moore, although I am sure this will be considered with any appointment I dont think it will be the most important part this time around. Stand Out person is Cooper but its just not in anyway realistic Heckingbottom for me is the most realistic option on the list, local and done well recently. I however would not be suprised to see it being nobody on the list so far a foreign unknown or an recently ex player, would any one take Scott Parker if we could get him to move up north always came accross really well and teams played nice football. |
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Post by Sio on Jan 30, 2024 12:22:09 GMT 1
So, the same people that appointed DM will be selecting the next manager? I keep seeing this, but remember under Hoyle, we appointed Chris Powell and then David Wagner. Why are we so quick to judge the new regime because they got 1 appointment wrong? I think it's the conviction, and arguably smugness, in which they announced Moore as the best thing since sliced bread that has probably shaken confidence. Of course it's their duty to talk him up, but the whole thing felt off. The difference is that Hoyle got managers right before he got them wrong. Having said the above, the intent and experimentation in the January window - and now the firing of Moore (way overdue) - has given me some belief that they might be starting to move things in the right direction. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 30, 2024 12:22:26 GMT 1
Shame there isnt a stipulation in the players contracts that they also can be sacked for incompetence as all this mess is not all Moores fault
What faith have we in the same person appointing the next manager
I think there "reward" is that Moore is a good guy who had the players interests at heart. They let him down and he's gone The next manager may not be as approachable or frankly give a shit about them as long as they perform on the pitch. Because lets face it you could argue the players didn't have the last managers back either. They don't need to be there mates just their boss If they're really unlucky then one of the established lads is f**ked. I've read that Mourinho goes into the clubs and picks an established first team player and instantly bombs him - this instantly asserts his authority over the dressing room and shows the rest they are very much expendable if they don't come up to standard. Mourinho did this to Schweinsteiger at Man Utd, Mata at Chelsea (he played him at Man Utd?). Not sure if it's true but there is a trend when he joins new clubs and you can't really argue with Mourinho's results |
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Post by 28901 on Jan 30, 2024 12:26:04 GMT 1
I have been told its not Paul Heckingbottom, so considering my recent posts I would be going to your betting apps and lumping on him to be next manager its got to be a sure thing now I have said its not him. And yes I am prepared to get shot down again !!!!! In all honesty I was getting information from someone inside the club a couple of sources, but my main source is now no longer employed by HTAFC (not DM). You do realise that you have zero credibility? You’re a complete charlatan. Good for comedy value though. Actually its getting very boring now. |
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 30, 2024 12:30:22 GMT 1
I’m not convinced by Eustace, barring a little run at Birmingham he’s achieved nothing as a manager and seems as dull as Moore. I think Rooney has made him look better than he is!
Heckingbottom would be ok.
Cooper would be excellent.
I just want somebody with a bit of character and that will instantly inspire both players and fans. Got to give the place a lift and someone we can get behind.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 30, 2024 12:40:30 GMT 1
You do realise that you have zero credibility? You’re a complete charlatan. Good for comedy value though. Actually its getting very boring now. if you are bored you dont need to read the posts do you..........jog on. |
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Post by hueypnewton on Jan 30, 2024 12:44:04 GMT 1
If Worthington beats Wednesday convincingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a run at it permanently
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Post by leroy212 on Jan 30, 2024 12:47:47 GMT 1
If Worthington beats Wednesday convincingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a run at it permanently No chance imo. They going to want someone with experience. Worthington could turn out to be another schofield. Even if he did manage to win on Saturday |
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Post by King Neil on Jan 30, 2024 12:48:29 GMT 1
If Worthington beats Wednesday convincingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a run at it permanently We don't want another schofield situation..he's better of serving the club like he is |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jan 30, 2024 12:55:44 GMT 1
If Worthington beats Wednesday convincingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a run at it permanently Ridiculous and 0% chance of this happening |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 30, 2024 13:00:56 GMT 1
If Worthington beats Wednesday convincingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a run at it permanently If we stuff them like 6-0, maybe |
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Post by waggers on Jan 30, 2024 13:06:19 GMT 1
If Worthington beats Wednesday convincingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a run at it permanently Ridiculous and 0% chance of this happening I don't think they'll take a gamble like that after the most recent managerial switch. |
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Post by dezzly on Jan 30, 2024 13:12:55 GMT 1
You might as well say,, "The same people who appointed Chris Powell, will be selecting the next manager"! we heavily relied on an external company and the stats provided to appoint Darren Moore, although I am sure this will be considered with any appointment I dont think it will be the most important part this time around. Stand Out person is Cooper but its just not in anyway realistic Heckingbottom for me is the most realistic option on the list, local and done well recently. I however would not be suprised to see it being nobody on the list so far a foreign unknown or an recently ex player, would any one take Scott Parker if we could get him to move up north always came accross really well and teams played nice football. On the Scott Parker thing….absolutely not.Be another own goal in terms of fan perception.Think any of heckingbottom eustace or duff are probably decent options however they would absolutely have to hit the ground running(difficult) An unknown or relatively unknown foreign hire would most likely excite fans even if we knew little about them but they would certainly have to have more first team experience than the likes of siewart or foth.I think the excitement factor could afford them a small amount of leighway early on,probably more than the above. It’s a tough appointment and a tough job for anyone who gets it let’s face it. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 30, 2024 13:15:17 GMT 1
Shame there isnt a stipulation in the players contracts that they also can be sacked for incompetence as all this mess is not all Moores fault
What faith have we in the same person appointing the next manager
Make your mind up, is it the players or the one appointing the manager ? |
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Post by malcolmbrown on Jan 30, 2024 13:16:15 GMT 1
Steve Cooper inherited one of the most expensive championship squads which had been massively underperforming and got lucky in the play offs. Subsequently he has been sacked for being a poor manager.
No thanks.
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 30, 2024 13:21:29 GMT 1
I think out of the realistic regular manager options available I would take Heckingbottom. I would prefer us to go with a decent foreign coach though.
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Post by royrace on Jan 30, 2024 13:22:31 GMT 1
Why is everyone so angry at people claiming to be “ITK”, just scroll past, who cares? Even the credible ones get in wrong from time to time. I'm with you on that however CHT had half the board falling for his shyte and discussing, quoting and replying to his made up bollocks. It's unhelpful when it gets to that stage imo and should be stopped by admins if possible as it's blatant and deliberate misinformation. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 30, 2024 13:29:44 GMT 1
Why is everyone so angry at people claiming to be “ITK”, just scroll past, who cares? Even the credible ones get in wrong from time to time. I'm with you on that however CHT had half the board falling for his shyte and discussing, quoting and replying to his made up bollocks. It's unhelpful when it gets to that stage imo and should be stopped by admins if possible as it's blatant and deliberate misinformation. stopped for what? giving some information that was sent, it just transparant.. some of it was correct some of it was / is not, the source however of the majority of information should have been accurate, maybe they were told different on purpose i dont know. believe it or not it doesnt really matter, information is placed on a forum to get people talking and discussing thats the point of a forum, you can agree, disagree, ignore, laugh, love the comments I for one do not really care what peoples thoughts are if I did I would not be on the message board. Any information I am told which will be less now, I will continue to place on here when i think its relivant. |
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Post by haskins on Jan 30, 2024 13:34:01 GMT 1
Steve Cooper inherited one of the most expensive championship squads which had been massively underperforming and got lucky in the play offs. Subsequently he has been sacked for being a poor manager. No thanks. somewhat glass half empty assessment. He took over a team at the bottom of the Championship having made the worst start to a season in their history so presumably morale was at rock bottom and took them up. If it was so easy with the squad they had how did an experienced manager like Hughton not manage the same? I agree they got lucky at Wembley and that their first match after sacking Hughton was at Town - we just knew how that would go. I would give him a go, not sure he would want us though. |
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Jan 30, 2024 13:34:24 GMT 1
I'm with you on that however CHT had half the board falling for his shyte and discussing, quoting and replying to his made up bollocks. It's unhelpful when it gets to that stage imo and should be stopped by admins if possible as it's blatant and deliberate misinformation. stopped for what? giving some information that was sent, it just transparant.. some of it was correct some of it was / is not, the source however of the majority of information should have been accurate, maybe they were told different on purpose i dont know. believe it or not it doesnt really matter, information is placed on a forum to get people talking and discussing thats the point of a forum, you can agree, disagree, ignore, laugh, love the comments I for one do not really care what peoples thoughts are if I did I would not be on the message board. Any information I am told which will be less now, I will continue to place on here when i think its relivant. Ever thought for a minute how annoying it is for the other forum users when you’re clogging up all the threads with your pretend in the know bullshit? Please try to keep that in mind before posting. Are you contributing something valuable to the forum and the discussion, or just attention seeking and pretending? |
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Post by crux on Jan 30, 2024 13:38:33 GMT 1
You might as well say,, "The same people who appointed Chris Powell, will be selecting the next manager"! we heavily relied on an external company and the stats provided to appoint Darren Moore, although I am sure this will be considered with any appointment I dont think it will be the most important part this time around. Stand Out person is Cooper but its just not in anyway realistic Heckingbottom for me is the most realistic option on the list, local and done well recently. I however would not be suprised to see it being nobody on the list so far a foreign unknown or an recently ex player, would any one take Scott Parker if we could get him to move up north always came accross really well and teams played nice football. Your first paragraph is very interesting and does go someway to explain why Cartwright was extremely set on Moore being 'the one'. Especially when you add in his previous personal contact with him. It probably shows that a data driven way of recruitment may work for players, especially as they're more easy to move on if it doesn't work. However, for managers, there needs to be a lot more to the recruitment process! |
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Post by 28901 on Jan 30, 2024 13:40:17 GMT 1
I'm with you on that however CHT had half the board falling for his shyte and discussing, quoting and replying to his made up bollocks. It's unhelpful when it gets to that stage imo and should be stopped by admins if possible as it's blatant and deliberate misinformation. stopped for what? giving some information that was sent, it just transparant.. some of it was correct some of it was / is not, the source however of the majority of information should have been accurate, maybe they were told different on purpose i dont know. believe it or not it doesnt really matter, information is placed on a forum to get people talking and discussing thats the point of a forum, you can agree, disagree, ignore, laugh, love the comments I for one do not really care what peoples thoughts are if I did I would not be on the message board. Any information I am told which will be less now, I will continue to place on here when i think its relivant. It is clear you haven't a scooby about anything that goes on, and have now started with the usual wum grammar and spelling. |
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Post by 28901 on Jan 30, 2024 13:42:22 GMT 1
stopped for what? giving some information that was sent, it just transparant.. some of it was correct some of it was / is not, the source however of the majority of information should have been accurate, maybe they were told different on purpose i dont know. believe it or not it doesnt really matter, information is placed on a forum to get people talking and discussing thats the point of a forum, you can agree, disagree, ignore, laugh, love the comments I for one do not really care what peoples thoughts are if I did I would not be on the message board. Any information I am told which will be less now, I will continue to place on here when i think its relivant. Ever thought for a minute how annoying it is for the other forum users when you’re clogging up all the threads with your pretend in the know bullshit? Please try to keep that in mind before posting. Are you contributing something valuable to the forum and the discussion, or just attention seeking and pretending? As long as some people give him credibility he will carry on. Sadly they still are. |
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Post by inapickle on Jan 30, 2024 13:51:55 GMT 1
Can someone please explain all the love for WILL STILL - or have I missed something?
PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE 🙏 😔 THANKS 😃
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Post by tyketaffy on Jan 30, 2024 13:52:44 GMT 1
I used to bump into a town player regularly in the last Coberan season, Duane Holmes, we both walked our dogs on a local moor most days and he told me all sorts of insider information but I kept it to myself coz I did not want him getting in bother if it was tracked back to him. Nothing earth shattering really but it was interesting to hear it direct what was happening in the club in the months before the playoff final, gossip on players etc. He told me right at the start of the season the squad fully expected to make the playoffs when I suggested I would be happy to get 50 points on the board early so I could relax for one season at least. So nowt special in knowing anything its just like any other chat and no kudos for repeating what someone else tells you. I trust Maynard 100% and his is the only post with hints seriously on the board.
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Post by Sio on Jan 30, 2024 13:53:13 GMT 1
Can someone please explain all the love for WILL STILL - or have I missed something? PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE 🙏 😔 THANKS 😃 Kind of like the Joe Lolley of management. Could go the same direction. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jan 30, 2024 13:54:19 GMT 1
Steffen Baumgart would be absolutely perfect for us. Fantastic record in the German 2nd tier with Paderborn where he took them from almost relegated in the German 2nd tier to promotion and qualifying for the UEFA Europa Conference League. Took the Cologne job and was decent initially until it tailed off this season. Plays an attacking brand of football, sometimes plays 442 which would give the Buxton era fans a twinge, wears flat caps and is a crazy maverick full of passion and personality. He's probably too good for us and a bit of a fantasy appointment, but he's available and out of work and he'd be better than the merry go round type that we'll probably end up with. Absolutely this. European, exciting, identity. Exactly what we need. |
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Post by basil on Jan 30, 2024 14:22:48 GMT 1
Steffen Baumgart would be absolutely perfect for us. Fantastic record in the German 2nd tier with Paderborn where he took them from almost relegated in the German 2nd tier to promotion and qualifying for the UEFA Europa Conference League. Took the Cologne job and was decent initially until it tailed off this season. Plays an attacking brand of football, sometimes plays 442 which would give the Buxton era fans a twinge, wears flat caps and is a crazy maverick full of passion and personality. He's probably too good for us and a bit of a fantasy appointment, but he's available and out of work and he'd be better than the merry go round type that we'll probably end up with. Absolutely this. European, exciting, identity. Exactly what we need. Love the image, but I think that he has less wins than Moore. |
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Post by ringdisco on Jan 30, 2024 14:26:10 GMT 1
Absolutely this. European, exciting, identity. Exactly what we need. Love the image, but I think that he has less wins than Moore. He doesn't speak a single word English, either, and isn't interested in learning. |
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