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Post by Metch on Jan 30, 2024 20:12:10 GMT 1
Coopers next job will be in the Championship IMO. He did well keeping forest up, with a lot of backing it has to be said, but didnt do so well that I can imagine any PL club giving him their job if it came up. Dont think its that far fetched that he'd come here provided that Nagle sells his ambition to him and shows him that good backing will be there. But there'd be a lot of bigger clubs than us in this division who'd have him next time they change managers. There's merit in your argument but I would ask if you are really convinced that Mr Nagle's ambition stretches this far? I think Mr Nagle is sincere and well intentioned but I don't get any sense that his ambition supports attracting a top notch (irrespective of what people think about Cooper as an individual he has just left a Premier League job) manager. If we did get a "name" it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume they had been attracted by a promise of support in the longer term. For many reasons the next appointment has to excite, enthuse and have the ability to change the narrative at the club. It's easy for me to write that, but far more difficult to fulfil. The Nagle era desperately needs something to get it on track. The next appointment can go a long way to achieving that. It is equally true it could completely derail the entire project. To be fair I expect Mr Nagle is acutely aware of this. It's a pivotal moment potentially in his tenure as our custodian. Very true, it's a key moment for Nagle. He's made mistakes but at least we currently have an interested and motivated owner. God forbid he ever loses interest, decides he's losing too much money and becomes an absent owner, just look at Reading.
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Post by terryya on Jan 30, 2024 20:26:50 GMT 1
Would there be a more Warnock thing than getting paid until the end of the season when he left and then getting paid again to come and take the job back on?
I'm not for one second suggesting it would/ could/should happen, but it just sounds like absolute peak Neil Warnock.
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Post by pettsy74 on Jan 30, 2024 20:27:59 GMT 1
Coopers next job will be in the Championship IMO. He did well keeping forest up, with a lot of backing it has to be said, but didnt do so well that I can imagine any PL club giving him their job if it came up. Dont think its that far fetched that he'd come here provided that Nagle sells his ambition to him and shows him that good backing will be there. But there'd be a lot of bigger clubs than us in this division who'd have him next time they change managers. There's merit in your argument but I would ask if you are really convinced that Mr Nagle's ambition stretches this far? I think Mr Nagle is sincere and well intentioned but I don't get any sense that his ambition supports attracting a top notch (irrespective of what people think about Cooper as an individual he has just left a Premier League job) manager. If we did get a "name" it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume they had been attracted by a promise of support in the longer term. For many reasons the next appointment has to excite, enthuse and have the ability to change the narrative at the club. It's easy for me to write that, but far more difficult to fulfil. The Nagle era desperately needs something to get it on track. The next appointment can go a long way to achieving that. It is equally true it could completely derail the entire project. To be fair I expect Mr Nagle is acutely aware of this. It's a pivotal moment potentially in his tenure as our custodian. Therein lies the issue , the only managers who would excite and enthuse the whole fan base are not going to come because we simply don’t have the budget to spend on the squad that they would want. Realistically whoever comes in won’t be exciting enough for half the fan base . Anybody who comes in has to hit the ground running or they will be written off within a matter of weeks . We need a perfect fit , for someone to just click and I honestly think that’s going to be more down to luck than judgement .
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jan 30, 2024 21:27:49 GMT 1
Sheff united have looked considerably better since wilder replaced Heckingbottom, that should be a red flag in itself.
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Post by crux on Jan 30, 2024 21:31:21 GMT 1
Sheff united have looked considerably better since wilder replaced Heckingbottom, that should be a red flag in itself. Didn't Middlesbrough look 'considerably better' once Wilder replaced Warnock? 😉🤣
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 30, 2024 21:54:44 GMT 1
I see KN said in his latest diary that Warnock ‘reached out’ after he sacked Moore.
I bet he did. Probably along the lines of ‘I f***ing told you so, didn’t I? You daft b*****d!’
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Jan 30, 2024 21:57:02 GMT 1
Tonight I will watch a game on tv. I might prefer one team to win, but if they don’t - hey ho. That’s how I feel about watching Town these days. Tonight I’ll be at a game, Sutton United v Harrogate Town, leaving in five minutes. I’m looking forward to it, I hope passionately that Sutton win. If it was Town I was going to see tonight that passion would rise tenfold. If I got no enjoyment out of it I wouldn’t go. Why do you even bother? I can still enjoy watching Town but it is not just a binary attitude. Apathy rules
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Jan 30, 2024 22:15:34 GMT 1
Sheff united have looked considerably better since wilder replaced Heckingbottom, that should be a red flag in itself. You must have posted 15 times now about it wanting Heckingbottom. Feck me we get it. You don’t want him. It so happens I do but I won’t tell you all every hour on the hour.
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Post by sabailand on Jan 30, 2024 22:17:03 GMT 1
Tonight I’ll be at a game, Sutton United v Harrogate Town, leaving in five minutes. I’m looking forward to it, I hope passionately that Sutton win. If it was Town I was going to see tonight that passion would rise tenfold. If I got no enjoyment out of it I wouldn’t go. Why do you even bother? I can still enjoy watching Town but it is not just a binary attitude. Apathy rules In the politest possible terms drayltonboy...you're an oddity.
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Post by yappledapple on Jan 30, 2024 22:18:52 GMT 1
Going to need public transport or a chauffeur…
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 30, 2024 22:22:07 GMT 1
I see KN said in his latest diary that Warnock ‘reached out’ after he sacked Moore. I bet he did. Probably along the lines of ‘I f***ing told you so, didn’t I? You daft b*****d!’ Warnock wants to be involved, something like a DOF / advisor. He's made it clear time and time again.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 30, 2024 22:23:53 GMT 1
Going to need public transport or a chauffeur… Racked up 12 points pretty quick, could he do the same for us?
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 30, 2024 22:25:22 GMT 1
I see KN said in his latest diary that Warnock ‘reached out’ after he sacked Moore. I bet he did. Probably along the lines of ‘I f***ing told you so, didn’t I? You daft b*****d!’ Warnock wants to be involved, something like a DOF / advisor. He's made it clear time and time again. Nine interviewees, NW advising and all the board chipping in. Hope this doesn’t end up being a horse drawn by committee. I’m guessing all nine of those blokes can be out of work Champ managers though, could be interesting.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jan 30, 2024 22:27:42 GMT 1
Dream appointment is Cooper, sensible ones Nigel Pearson reality will be Heckingbottom I imagine as they will just see that he’s left a PL team and go from there…as these are the same lot that thought Darren Moore played attacking football and Heckingbottom is very similar to Moore Ball my money is on him. Heff is fully qualified now Baumgartner with Heff as assistant/translator would work...
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jan 30, 2024 22:37:56 GMT 1
Hope whoever it is gets a 2 year contract max. These 3 year pay outs must be hitting us.
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Post by morleyterrier on Jan 30, 2024 22:40:02 GMT 1
Give the job to a traffic cone, a butlins yellow coat.
A fence post.
Any of the above will be a significant step forward from the previous ‘manager’.
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Post by Dan on Jan 30, 2024 22:40:29 GMT 1
Hope whoever it is gets a 2 year contract max. These 3 year pay outs must be hitting us. Kev suggesting it will still be a long term contract even though he's got a few ex-managers still on the payroll... (5:30 on below vid)
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 30, 2024 22:41:39 GMT 1
I don’t know how people can turn their nose up at Heckingbottam. Realistically he our best option and probably wouldn’t even come to us. Rowett would be good, a little more realistic but be prepared for boring football if it’s him- he would probably save us from relegation though and make us hard to beat.
I think people need a reality check on this and lower expectations. I can see this either being one of those 2 or something similar or someone who isn’t even on the betting list, completely out of the blue.
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Post by King Neil on Jan 30, 2024 22:44:56 GMT 1
Warnock wants to be involved, something like a DOF / advisor. He's made it clear time and time again. Nine interviewees, NW advising and all the board chipping in. Hope this doesn’t end up being a horse drawn by committee. I’m guessing all nine of those blokes can be out of work Champ managers though, could be interesting. Well I do remember last season NW saying in an interview that he was good friends with Gary rowett and liked/admired his work So possibly rowett
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Post by yappledapple on Jan 30, 2024 22:50:57 GMT 1
Warnock wants to be involved, something like a DOF / advisor. He's made it clear time and time again. Nine interviewees, NW advising and all the board chipping in. Hope this doesn’t end up being a horse drawn by committee. I’m guessing all nine of those blokes can be out of work Champ managers though, could be interesting. Let’s be honest, it’s not as if KN and his team couldn’t see this coming and the sacking of DM came out of the blue. Why didn’t we have someone lined up or at least a very small short-list? It was an inevitability this was going to happen - interviewing 9 appears like both a scatter-gun approach and we don’t have a clue!
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 30, 2024 22:53:41 GMT 1
Wonder if it’s the 9 people on this poll 🤣
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Post by dalesterrier on Jan 30, 2024 22:57:01 GMT 1
I actually think he said 12! 9 initially, the list was increased further and now they are interviewing a reduced number of 12
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 30, 2024 22:58:57 GMT 1
Nine interviewees, NW advising and all the board chipping in. Hope this doesn’t end up being a horse drawn by committee. I’m guessing all nine of those blokes can be out of work Champ managers though, could be interesting. Let’s be honest, it’s not as if KN and his team couldn’t see this coming and the sacking of DM came out of the blue. Why didn’t we have someone lined up or at least a very small short-list? It was an inevitability this was going to happen - interviewing 9 appears like both a scatter-gun approach and we don’t have a clue! Suppose you might as well speak to everyone, they got hammered for doing the opposite last time.
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Post by sheps on Jan 30, 2024 23:00:15 GMT 1
I wonder if Heckingbottom is able to manage another team yet? It’s only 56 days since he was sacked by Sheffield Utd. If it’s a 60 day stipulation, not announcing until after the Wednesday match would make sense. (If it is indeed him who we are after). Would this stop it being announced or just him actually taking charge
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Post by steo1986 on Jan 30, 2024 23:01:44 GMT 1
I actually think he said 12! 9 initially, the list was increased further and now they are interviewing a reduced number of 12 Yes that's right! All had Interviews then it will be onto the Final Interviews who knows if thats happened already and its practally done or that could be starting today or tomorrow buggers knows lol Maybe wont announce someone till beginning of next week least gives them a week of training before Southampton game
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Post by billy143 on Jan 30, 2024 23:04:07 GMT 1
Alexander Zorniger
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 30, 2024 23:06:52 GMT 1
I actually think he said 12! 9 initially, the list was increased further and now they are interviewing a reduced number of 12 Yes that's right! All had Interviews then it will be onto the Final Interviews who knows if thats happened already and its practally done or that could be starting today or tomorrow buggers knows lol Maybe wont announce someone till beginning of next week least gives them a week of training before Southampton game I always imagined these interviews with managers to be very in depth, 3-4 hours, them explaining their approach, use of video analysis etc. Perhaps I had it all wrong and it's a few quick questions if we've managed to interview 12 already
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 30, 2024 23:08:13 GMT 1
Going to need public transport or a chauffeur… Got more points in January than Moore
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Post by King Neil on Jan 30, 2024 23:09:21 GMT 1
Well it definitely appears there is no bad blood between Neil and kev which is Nice
And he still wants to help out because he cares about the club so much..😫😫
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 30, 2024 23:10:43 GMT 1
Hope whoever it is gets a 2 year contract max. These 3 year pay outs must be hitting us. Kev's latest diary references the amount of ex managers still on the payroll.
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