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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 30, 2024 23:10:51 GMT 1
Well it definitely appears there is no bad blood between Neil and kev which is Nice And he still wants to help out because he cares about the club so much..😫😫 Just take him back.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 30, 2024 23:12:38 GMT 1
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 30, 2024 23:12:45 GMT 1
Hope whoever it is gets a 2 year contract max. These 3 year pay outs must be hitting us. Kev's latest diary references the amount of ex managers still on the payroll. well if the club stopped picking shit, it will never work managers it might help not having to pay them off all the time !
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 30, 2024 23:18:02 GMT 1
Votes for Jones, Heckingbottom and Marsch but non for Cooper. Glad this board doesn’t get to decide! Jones is off to Charlton thankfully, Heckingbottom is a big risk, Marsch would probably be a disaster, Eustace isn’t proven enough based on what Brum fans say about him. For me it would be all out to get Cooper however unlikely that is. Yes he may have eyes on a Prem job but his record there isn’t exactly great, if Kev can sell the vision then why not? vote for Cooper if you want, but there is no way he's going to come to Town in our current position or state.
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Post by royrace on Jan 30, 2024 23:18:33 GMT 1
Great to hear from Kevin and very pleasing (and surprising) to hear he's in touch with NW and on good terms!
In my simple mind just give it to Neil, let's secure safety and then try again for a decent long term option in the summer.
Doesn't sound like that's on the agenda unfortunately but feels like a no brainer to me!
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Post by Flowerdisco on Jan 30, 2024 23:32:06 GMT 1
I like these diaries, transparent and open. I think KN is in it for the long haul. Wonder if he trusts his generals to get it right this time or will it get signed off by Kev himself.
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Post by wildhogg on Jan 30, 2024 23:50:00 GMT 1
If NW is advising on the new man then it's odds on to be Rowett (if he's applied, of course), I reckon. I think he'd be a good fit for us. However, going on recent history, he probably won't be deemed appointable due to not turning up for interview wearing a dunce's hat.
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Post by morrisraspass on Jan 30, 2024 23:50:40 GMT 1
You're going to be sorely disappointed then, because Cooper is way out of our league Why would he be disappointed? He doesn't want Clark and you are saying Clark is out of our league so we are not getting Clark. I would think he will be delighted. Because we'll be getting someone shitter than Cooper who he thinks is no good.
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Post by morrisraspass on Jan 30, 2024 23:54:08 GMT 1
You're going to be sorely disappointed then, because Cooper is way out of our league Does your comment make any sense? Yes, if you don't rate Cooper, then given he's too good for us, whoever we get will be a disappointment to you.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jan 30, 2024 23:59:53 GMT 1
Sorry what’s KN said?
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Post by jqhtfc on Jan 31, 2024 0:02:24 GMT 1
If Nagle wants attacking football you wont get it with Rowett.
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Post by steo1986 on Jan 31, 2024 0:08:14 GMT 1
Yes that's right! All had Interviews then it will be onto the Final Interviews who knows if thats happened already and its practally done or that could be starting today or tomorrow buggers knows lol Maybe wont announce someone till beginning of next week least gives them a week of training before Southampton game I always imagined these interviews with managers to be very in depth, 3-4 hours, them explaining their approach, use of video analysis etc. Perhaps I had it all wrong and it's a few quick questions if we've managed to interview 12 already Who knows when it comes to town interviews could of started before they sacked Moore nothing surprises me with town these days!
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 31, 2024 0:12:09 GMT 1
KN full respect, I feel the town love , keep going it will all come good in time ❤️UTT
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Post by araucaria on Jan 31, 2024 0:17:40 GMT 1
If NW is advising on the new man then it's odds on to be Rowett (if he's applied, of course), I reckon. I think he'd be a good fit for us. However, going on recent history, he probably won't be deemed appointable due to not turning up for interview wearing a dunce's hat. Rowett has 8 top half finishes in the Championship. How far back do we have to go to match that at Town? Top of my head - 1968-69.
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Post by DuffMan on Jan 31, 2024 0:54:45 GMT 1
If NW is advising on the new man then it's odds on to be Rowett (if he's applied, of course), I reckon. I think he'd be a good fit for us. However, going on recent history, he probably won't be deemed appointable due to not turning up for interview wearing a dunce's hat. Rowett has 8 top half finishes in the Championship. How far back do we have to go to match that at Town? Top of my head - 1968-69. Since when did finishing in the top 12 of a division become some kind of barometer of success. The chairman has stated publicly he wants an attacking style of football and to compete for the top 6 for a chance at the prem and I hope he backs that up with this appointment. Our fans settling for turdball which is what rowett plays sums up why we’ve had so little success for the past 50 years. Have some ambition, never mind top half finishes let’s look for someone that will make going to the game enjoyable and has ambitions of taking us further than mid table mediocrity, I understand that may be seen as a successful season for where we are right now but how about getting someone who can take us further once we’ve got there and will entertain the fans along the way
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Post by eric on Jan 31, 2024 1:03:56 GMT 1
Rowett has 8 top half finishes in the Championship. How far back do we have to go to match that at Town? Top of my head - 1968-69. Since when did finishing in the top 12 of a division become some kind of barometer of success. The chairman has stated publicly he wants an attacking style of football and to compete for the top 6 for a chance at the prem and I hope he backs that up with this appointment. Our fans settling for turdball which is what rowett plays sums up why we’ve had so little success for the past 50 years. Have some ambition, never mind top half finishes let’s look for someone that will make going to the game enjoyable and has ambitions of taking us further than mid table mediocrity, I understand that may be seen as a successful season for where we are right now but how about getting someone who can take us further once we’ve got there and will entertain the fans along the way The immediate priority is to stay in this division. Rowett will almost certainly achieve that. Then we'll want to establish ourselves as a mid-table team and then go for the play-offs. It's an obvious and logical trajectory. As a club, we're not above employing an established and respected Championship manager to lead the team.
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Post by Kenny irons on Jan 31, 2024 1:22:11 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed.
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Post by DuffMan on Jan 31, 2024 1:29:54 GMT 1
Since when did finishing in the top 12 of a division become some kind of barometer of success. The chairman has stated publicly he wants an attacking style of football and to compete for the top 6 for a chance at the prem and I hope he backs that up with this appointment. Our fans settling for turdball which is what rowett plays sums up why we’ve had so little success for the past 50 years. Have some ambition, never mind top half finishes let’s look for someone that will make going to the game enjoyable and has ambitions of taking us further than mid table mediocrity, I understand that may be seen as a successful season for where we are right now but how about getting someone who can take us further once we’ve got there and will entertain the fans along the way The immediate priority is to stay in this division. Rowett will almost certainly achieve that. Then we'll want to establish ourselves as a mid-table team and then go for the play-offs. It's an obvious and logical trajectory. As a club, we're not above employing an established and respected Championship manager to lead the team. Our 2 most successful managers in the last 20 years haven’t been established championship managers and both kept us up and then kicked us onto the playoffs. Find the next corberan or Wagner not the next Darren Moore
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Post by willo on Jan 31, 2024 1:34:34 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. Not for me.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 31, 2024 1:36:33 GMT 1
The immediate priority is to stay in this division. Rowett will almost certainly achieve that. Then we'll want to establish ourselves as a mid-table team and then go for the play-offs. It's an obvious and logical trajectory. As a club, we're not above employing an established and respected Championship manager to lead the team. Our 2 most successful managers in the last 20 years haven’t been established championship managers and both kept us up and then kicked us onto the playoffs. Find the next corberan or Wagner not the next Darren Moore Speaking of success, I wonder where Warnock's points per game falls next to Corberan/Wagner. Not trying to be clever etc as I don’t know, would just be interesting to compare.
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Post by Metch on Jan 31, 2024 1:38:08 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. I think this is a sad reality. Corberan and Wagner were outside the box appointments. Now we are like many Championship and subsequently League 1 teams, chasing a familiar group of managers who have mixed, underwhelming cvs. Moore was underwhelming, so are Parker and Duff. I'm disappointed with Nagles leadership team. A club the size of ours needs to think a bit more clever to survive.
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Post by willo on Jan 31, 2024 1:43:27 GMT 1
Would there be a more Warnock thing than getting paid until the end of the season when he left and then getting paid again to come and take the job back on? I'm not for one second suggesting it would/ could/should happen, but it just sounds like absolute peak Neil Warnock. Genuinely can’t see this happening but absolutely nothing in football should surprise us anymore.
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Post by willo on Jan 31, 2024 1:50:01 GMT 1
Don't want that arsehole anywhere near Town Why specifically? Because he did nothing at leeds (they were bloody lucky to stay up at Brentford on the last day of that first season back in the PL) and he was gone midway through the following season. More importantly, he has no experience fighting a relegation battle in the Championship. We’d be completely barmy to even consider him never mind give him an interview. Plus he thinks he’s way better than he actually is.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 31, 2024 7:16:25 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. Parker sounds and looks like he's about to burst in to tears when he gives his team talks. Far too intense.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Jan 31, 2024 7:32:47 GMT 1
If Klopp turned up for an interview someone would find fault with him before he got his quarter pound of Yorkshire mixtures in his office drawer. I guess a lot of us will have a "favourite" we want in but if it isn't let's gets behind the new guy from day one. As much as I wanted Moore out in the end I was prepared to give him a go. Let's not write anyone off before they've settled in. Some managers are a good fit at some clubs and previous records don't necessarily reflect how they will do at a new club. The stars need to align, IE Wagner.
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 31, 2024 7:57:18 GMT 1
Votes for Jones, Heckingbottom and Marsch but non for Cooper. Glad this board doesn’t get to decide! Jones is off to Charlton thankfully, Heckingbottom is a big risk, Marsch would probably be a disaster, Eustace isn’t proven enough based on what Brum fans say about him. For me it would be all out to get Cooper however unlikely that is. Yes he may have eyes on a Prem job but his record there isn’t exactly great, if Kev can sell the vision then why not? vote for Cooper if you want, but there is no way he's going to come to Town in our current position or state. Weren't Forest in exactly the same position when he went there?
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 31, 2024 8:23:48 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. Hopefully that's as far as it went with Parker.
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Post by eric on Jan 31, 2024 8:38:45 GMT 1
The immediate priority is to stay in this division. Rowett will almost certainly achieve that. Then we'll want to establish ourselves as a mid-table team and then go for the play-offs. It's an obvious and logical trajectory. As a club, we're not above employing an established and respected Championship manager to lead the team. Our 2 most successful managers in the last 20 years haven’t been established championship managers and both kept us up and then kicked us onto the playoffs. Find the next corberan or Wagner not the next Darren Moore We're in a relegation fight and with the potential changes in payments from the Premier League, it could well be more catastrophic financially if things were to go south. I've no problem appointing a promising coach in the right circumstances, I just feel now is the time for a bit more certainty and solidity in the dug out. Look at QPR. Appoint Cifuentes, they've improved but not dramatically, they'll probably go down. Millwall have appointed Edwards, they haven't kicked on. Both were seen as promising innovative coaches. They may well fulfil that potential but it doesn't guarantee immediate rewards. And we can't afford to take a wild punt at the moment.
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Post by ruggedivy on Jan 31, 2024 8:50:07 GMT 1
Rowett and Heckingbottom are the logical appointments given the squad profile. I'd say Heckingbottom maybe unrealistic. Lots of project managers been mentioned but given how unstable we are off the pitch I'd say it's a bit roll of the dice.
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Post by workshyfop on Jan 31, 2024 8:52:22 GMT 1
The problem for whoever takes over is going to be the quality of the players in the squad. It needs to be a good man-manager and someone who keeps it simple as NW did because most aren’t up to Championship standard.
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