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Post by dezzly on Jan 31, 2024 9:04:02 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. Hopefully that's as far as it went with Parker. Out of the managers on the bookies list that would be deemed boring,I would be comfortable with heckingbottom,duff,eustace and rowett.Scott Parker I would absolutely not be happy with,bored everyone to tears at Fulham and Bournemouth with squads above the level and with Bournemouth just got over the line,can’t quite recall with Fulham,did he end up playoffs with them?with a premier league squad and mitrovic in the side. Happy to accept certain managers because this notion we can get better I think it slightly out of kilter,but Scott Parker would be a huge no with me.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jan 31, 2024 9:05:10 GMT 1
Steffen Baumgart would be absolutely perfect for us. Fantastic record in the German 2nd tier with Paderborn where he took them from almost relegated in the German 2nd tier to promotion and qualifying for the UEFA Europa Conference League. Took the Cologne job and was decent initially until it tailed off this season. Plays an attacking brand of football, sometimes plays 442 which would give the Buxton era fans a twinge, wears flat caps and is a crazy maverick full of passion and personality. He's probably too good for us and a bit of a fantasy appointment, but he's available and out of work and he'd be better than the merry go round type that we'll probably end up with. Of all the names mentioned on this thread, this is the only one that interests me.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 31, 2024 9:19:08 GMT 1
The problem for whoever takes over is going to be the quality of the players in the squad. It needs to be a good man-manager and someone who keeps it simple as NW did because most aren’t up to Championship standard. Not sure that’s as true anymore, we have enough to stay up now imo, agree though the biggest challenge is getting them motivated and playing as a team.
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Post by rockwall on Jan 31, 2024 9:19:47 GMT 1
Rowett has 8 top half finishes in the Championship. How far back do we have to go to match that at Town? Top of my head - 1968-69. Since when did finishing in the top 12 of a division become some kind of barometer of success. The chairman has stated publicly he wants an attacking style of football and to compete for the top 6 for a chance at the prem and I hope he backs that up with this appointment. Our fans settling for turdball which is what rowett plays sums up why we’ve had so little success for the past 50 years. Have some ambition, never mind top half finishes let’s look for someone that will make going to the game enjoyable and has ambitions of taking us further than mid table mediocrity, I understand that may be seen as a successful season for where we are right now but how about getting someone who can take us further once we’ve got there and will entertain the fans along the way 1 question for you. Would you have Warnock back? If you're answer is yes, then I don't see why you wouldn't want Rowett. Their play is very similar.
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Post by Stiggy on Jan 31, 2024 9:37:45 GMT 1
C'mon Kev, just get Warnock back and be done with it.
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Post by araucaria on Jan 31, 2024 9:46:48 GMT 1
C'mon Kev, just get Warnock back and be done with it. A Third Coming is obviously extremely unrealistic, but still more realistic perhaps than some of those who actually made it on to the ballot.
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Post by King Neil on Jan 31, 2024 9:47:24 GMT 1
Since when did finishing in the top 12 of a division become some kind of barometer of success. The chairman has stated publicly he wants an attacking style of football and to compete for the top 6 for a chance at the prem and I hope he backs that up with this appointment. Our fans settling for turdball which is what rowett plays sums up why we’ve had so little success for the past 50 years. Have some ambition, never mind top half finishes let’s look for someone that will make going to the game enjoyable and has ambitions of taking us further than mid table mediocrity, I understand that may be seen as a successful season for where we are right now but how about getting someone who can take us further once we’ve got there and will entertain the fans along the way 1 question for you. Would you have Warnock back? If you're answer is yes, then I don't see why you wouldn't want Rowett. Their play is very similar. And with Neil being mates with rowett and admiring him as a manager he can give Gary his knowledge of all the players and their strong points and help out If its not Neil himself then It's almost certain to be rowett...
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Post by ringdisco on Jan 31, 2024 9:47:32 GMT 1
That was one thing I was going to ask to be honest. All children learn English from the age of 8 in Germany..some at 6 And I'm sure something like 45 million Germans speak good English..around 56% of the population Baumgart was born in DDR
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Post by belizian on Jan 31, 2024 9:49:15 GMT 1
I think Cartwright will be the next to go. Must be on notice with Kevin. Brought in Edwards and Moore (and his merry band of men) and I'm not overly impressed with the signings he's just made. Didn't like the cut of his jib as soon as I saw his photo.
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Post by Sio on Jan 31, 2024 9:49:49 GMT 1
The fact we're supposedly taking advice off NW worries me. Love him, but he's hardly going to be the type to spot a progressive, out of the box manager. And why can't our DoF do the job without an ex-manager hanging around? That's surely not a Cartwright decision.
Hopefully the club surprises me but everything so far seems to point towards another merry-go-round appointment - a Powell, Robins, Moore - who, as I'm sure we'll discover the hard way, aren't likely to get you to the Premier League (as per the supposed vision) with an underinvested squad.
It all feels very lazy and very uneducated at the moment.
This is all speculation of course. I might be very pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 31, 2024 9:50:17 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. Scott Parker could have been created in a lab to be the opposite of everything you’d look for in a Town manager. If Bournemouth and Fulham don’t have enough resources for you, it might be an issue.
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Post by ben1987 on Jan 31, 2024 9:50:29 GMT 1
Hope whoever it is gets a 2 year contract max. These 3 year pay outs must be hitting us. Kev's latest diary references the amount of ex managers still on the payroll. The solution to our managerial woes is in his own diaries. Stop taking wild punts and employing people that don’t fit into what makes the club and its fan base tick, all the money that’s been wasted on compensating former managers could be invested in the right manager and better prospects on the playing side. Look at our recent managerial successes, Wagner and Coberan. Two different characters admittedly but they had something. The moment Wagner came in (I was lucky to be at the press conference where he was announced) I immediately got a slight twinge, you just sensed he had a clear strategy, plan, identity, coupled with the fact he had this confidence about himself and what he wanted the club to be. We’ve seen what works, invest in the right person, go back to what works. Stop thinking that we are this small club looking to fight amongst heavy weights. Actually, just grow a pair of bollocks. Plan, identity, ambition.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jan 31, 2024 9:53:29 GMT 1
What I find interesting on Nagle's twitter piece. No mention of Cartwright, makes me think he's absolutely livid with him (which would make sense he's cost him a fortune).
No i aren't obsessed with Warnock before anybody says it but it really wouldn't shock me if he came back for 4 months off the back of that last night. Bet Warnock is desperate to comeback just to manage Healey since he desperately wanted him in the summer!
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Post by ben1987 on Jan 31, 2024 9:54:14 GMT 1
The fact we're supposedly taking advice off NW worries me. Love him, but he's hardly going to be the type to spot a progressive, out of the box manager. And why can't our DoF do the job without an ex-manager hanging around? That's surely not a Cartwright decision. Hopefully the club surprises me but everything so far seems to point towards another merry-go-round appointment - a Powell, Robins, Moore - who, as I'm sure we'll discover the hard way, aren't likely to get you to the Premier League (as per the supposed vision) with an underinvested squad. It all feels very lazy and very uneducated at the moment. This is all speculation of course. I might be very pleasantly surprised. The biggest concern I have about who town will bring in next is actually the two who make the decision, Edwards and Cartwright, they don’t give me any faith whatsoever. All the noises I get about these two concerns me greatly.
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Post by Dan on Jan 31, 2024 9:54:25 GMT 1
I think Cartwright will be the next to go. Must be on notice with Kevin. Brought in Edwards and Moore (and his merry band of men) and I'm not overly impressed with the signings he's just made. Didn't like the cut of his jib as soon as I saw his photo. It's the other way round. Edwards brought in Cartwright. Edwards is the CEO so Cartwright reports into him.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 31, 2024 9:54:31 GMT 1
Is Scott Parker really someone we should not consider, I am thinking he could be excellent I seem to remember his teams playing good football all be it with some very good players.
"He want a possession based style that dominates the ball and moves it at tempo" Fulham pressed high up and dominated the ball as did Bournemouth.
This type of football would be a complete change to us and that could be a concern at such a vital time, if we could guarantee survial this season and want to build something for the future I could see the style of Scott being one we would very much consider. He also comes accross really well in interviews.
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Post by midlander on Jan 31, 2024 9:55:05 GMT 1
I think Cartwright will be the next to go. Must be on notice with Kevin. Brought in Edwards and Moore (and his merry band of men) and I'm not overly impressed with the signings he's just made. Didn't like the cut of his jib as soon as I saw his photo. Too soon to judge his signings from this window. On the face of it, and considering our league position, not sure that the available pool of players would have been large. Been a bit of out of the box thinking and it may pay off. Clearly Moore has been a poor appointment, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. You cannot just sack everyone after a bad decision when you ate trying to grow the club.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 31, 2024 9:57:15 GMT 1
I think Cartwright will be the next to go. Must be on notice with Kevin. Brought in Edwards and Moore (and his merry band of men) and I'm not overly impressed with the signings he's just made. Didn't like the cut of his jib as soon as I saw his photo. Didnt bring in Edwards that was down to RR. You might want to give this months signings some time to prove themselves, so far all 4 I think will add to the squad in vital areas.
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Post by King Neil on Jan 31, 2024 10:00:15 GMT 1
All children learn English from the age of 8 in Germany..some at 6 And I'm sure something like 45 million Germans speak good English..around 56% of the population Baumgart was born in DDR And the Berlin Wall came down in 1989😉
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Post by benhomly on Jan 31, 2024 10:01:41 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. Parker sounds and looks like he's about to burst in to tears when he gives his team talks. Far too intense. Give him the job and he probably will burst into tears in his interviews and team talks
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Post by detox on Jan 31, 2024 10:01:52 GMT 1
I just hope we don't compromise in our choice of manager, but wait until the right man is available. In the interim get NW to see out this season (again) and be patient for a change. As posted above, the money we're spaffing out on wrong choice managers we've since sacked would have paid for a top whack bloke. Learn some lessons, if you want a guy to take the club to the PL then you have to pay for that...no more compromises !
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jan 31, 2024 10:03:44 GMT 1
Is Scott Parker really someone we should not consider, I am thinking he could be excellent I seem to remember his teams playing good football all be it with some very good players. "He want a possession based style that dominates the ball and moves it at tempo" Fulham pressed high up and dominated the ball as did Bournemouth. This type of football would be a complete change to us and that could be a concern at such a vital time, if we could guarantee survial this season and want to build something for the future I could see the style of Scott being one we would very much consider. He also comes accross really well in interviews. Ok now you really are on the wind up.
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Post by Moooooy on Jan 31, 2024 10:04:42 GMT 1
I think Cartwright will be the next to go. Must be on notice with Kevin. Brought in Edwards and Moore (and his merry band of men) and I'm not overly impressed with the signings he's just made. Didn't like the cut of his jib as soon as I saw his photo. It's the other way round. Edwards brought in Cartwright. Edwards is the CEO so Cartwright reports into him. I think he meant Tom Edwards rather than Jake.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 31, 2024 10:04:49 GMT 1
The problem for whoever takes over is going to be the quality of the players in the squad. It needs to be a good man-manager and someone who keeps it simple as NW did because most aren’t up to Championship standard. Not sure that’s as true anymore, we have enough to stay up now imo, agree though the biggest challenge is getting them motivated and playing as a team. Weve enough to stay up if we employ someone who is pragmatic. If we employ someone who thinks Peps is the only way then imho we are doomed.
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Post by willo on Jan 31, 2024 10:06:11 GMT 1
Is Scott Parker really someone we should not consider, I am thinking he could be excellent I seem to remember his teams playing good football all be it with some very good players. "He want a possession based style that dominates the ball and moves it at tempo" Fulham pressed high up and dominated the ball as did Bournemouth. This type of football would be a complete change to us and that could be a concern at such a vital time, if we could guarantee survial this season and want to build something for the future I could see the style of Scott being one we would very much consider. He also comes accross really well in interviews. I just don’t see Parker as a Town manager. He’s very articulate (unlike DM) but he does share some traits. I can’t see the fans taking to him at all.
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Post by belizian on Jan 31, 2024 10:06:35 GMT 1
I think Cartwright will be the next to go. Must be on notice with Kevin. Brought in Edwards and Moore (and his merry band of men) and I'm not overly impressed with the signings he's just made. Didn't like the cut of his jib as soon as I saw his photo. Didnt bring in Edwards that was down to RR. You might want to give this months signings some time to prove themselves, so far all 4 I think will add to the squad in vital areas. Sorry but I think he's had Kevin's pants down. Two million to Watford for someone they didn't want? Laughing all the way to their bank.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 31, 2024 10:07:33 GMT 1
I just hope we don't compromise in our choice of manager, but wait until the right man is available. In the interim get NW to see out this season (again) and be patient for a change. As posted above, the money we're spaffing out on wrong choice managers we've since sacked would have paid for a top whack bloke. Learn some lessons, if you want a guy to take the club to the PL then you have to pay for that...no more compromises ! You not only have to pay for a proper manager, but you need to give him some tools to work with (players) We went into this season with 1 recognised striker. It simply bonkers.
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Post by thomo on Jan 31, 2024 10:07:58 GMT 1
Scott Parker & Michael Duff both already been interviewed. Scott Parker could have been created in a lab to be the opposite of everything you’d look for in a Town manager. If Bournemouth and Fulham don’t have enough resources for you, it might be an issue. Totally agree. Would be a disaster imho
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Post by ringdisco on Jan 31, 2024 10:08:23 GMT 1
And the Berlin Wall came down in 1989😉 Aye. He was pretty much done with school by then, though.
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 31, 2024 10:09:55 GMT 1
Scott Parker has a decent record of promotion out of this league. Town fans make me laugh how they can pick fault with literally every manager! That Fulham side was class, yes they had better players but that's like saying Pep is only a good manager because he has better players.
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