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Post by waggers on Jan 31, 2024 18:29:20 GMT 1
Nobody is going to create what Warnock created, I wanted him here for this entire season and take our time finding the replacement. Our suits ballsed up though so we have to work with our current situation. A very large chunk of Town fans love Warnock, there is a vocal minority on here who for some bizarre reason were happy with Moore replacing him. Yet the minority have never given us any real reason to be happy he went. The pro Moore anti Warnock brigade went quiet a while ago. They pedalled out 'we don't have fit strikers, it's not Moore's fault'. When we get strikers in and we were just as tripe they went missing.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 31, 2024 18:33:54 GMT 1
We as a fan base need to get behind KN and the new manager when appointed the past as gone we get together and lift the club, because if we are all as one we have seen the potential not too long ago UTT.
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Post by kyg on Jan 31, 2024 18:34:09 GMT 1
Nobody is going to create what Warnock created, I wanted him here for this entire season and take our time finding the replacement. Our suits ballsed up though so we have to work with our current situation. A very large chunk of Town fans love Warnock, there is a vocal minority on here who for some bizarre reason were happy with Moore replacing him. Yet the minority have never given us any real reason to be happy he went. I honestly dont know a single town fan that was happy Warnock left when he did, but people just have to realize that he didn't want to be here past Christmas so you cant blame the club for replacing him when they thought they had found someone. Waiting to the last minute could have also ended in disaster without a manager. Then everyone would be complaining that they had known he was leaving and had failed to secure someone. Problem is how do you secure a successor but tell them they have to wait until Warnock decides he's had enough. Personally I would have preferred Warnock had stayed until Christmas because I think we would have been lot closer to safety than we are now but I accepted the decision the club thought they had the new man to take us beyond the season. Obviously did not work out that way. I would not be upset at the thought of having Warnock back again until the end of the season but we are still in the same boat then of trying to find someone willing to wait to take over. I just hope whoever we get next works out a lot better than the last few managers have.
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Post by Tiro on Jan 31, 2024 18:39:13 GMT 1
Yet the minority have never given us any real reason to be happy he went. The pro Moore anti Warnock brigade went quiet a while ago. They pedalled out 'we don't have fit strikers, it's not Moore's fault'. When we get strikers in and we were just as tripe they went missing. There's such a thing as a balanced and measured opinion, looking at all angles. Not everything has to be tribal and/or sensationalised. Its not about gloating I said this and this happened. I didn't see any true 'pro-Moore' perspectives. I haven't seen any anti-Warnock either. But I did see that we had no strikers available at times, which any manager would have incidentally struggled with - that is undeniable. And there are valid perspectives that say this isn't the time for Warnock's return. It is OK to say, Warnock / Moore did this and that wrong, but they also had to work with x and y and did such and such right. Both managers made some cock-ups which led to their demise one way or another. One just did better than the other before the inevitable under the circumstances. That doesn't make anyone anti or pro anything. Town fans need to move on. Stop baiting each another for having a slightly diff perspective, its pathetic.
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Post by thomo on Jan 31, 2024 18:43:13 GMT 1
Would take Warnock all day long on the understanding we're looking for our long term successor to start at the end of the season. Surely we're more prepared for a decent transfer window this summer so things couldn't be as bad again.
(PS. still don't fully accept the excuse for last summer's transfer window - bottom line is we should have been ready for recruitment despite the time scales of the takeover. It was absolutely vital)
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Post by Randy Watson on Jan 31, 2024 19:31:24 GMT 1
Perplexed why people wouldn’t want NW back tbh. Both sides know that it would definitely be until the summer, So town can confirm our league status and take a long time to look at it and make the right decision. Half a year, Warnock. Half a year It's a NO from me. NW is an absolute legend but we need to move on.
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Post by Stiggy on Jan 31, 2024 19:44:04 GMT 1
Where’s the option for Warnock?
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Post by Melc on Jan 31, 2024 19:50:52 GMT 1
Where’s the option for Warnock? In the bin were it should be.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jan 31, 2024 19:56:51 GMT 1
Where’s the option for Warnock? In the bin were it should be. Swear some fans just don’t understand how bad relegation would be. Let me start 7 million revenue hit instantly.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Jan 31, 2024 19:58:31 GMT 1
Perplexed why people wouldn’t want NW back tbh. Both sides know that it would definitely be until the summer, So town can confirm our league status and take a long time to look at it and make the right decision. Half a year, Warnock. Half a year It's a NO from me. NW is an absolute legend but we need to move on. I'm glad you agree. I sometimes think I am a voice crying in the wilderness.
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 31, 2024 20:03:21 GMT 1
It's a NO from me. NW is an absolute legend but we need to move on. I'm glad you agree. I sometimes think I am a voice crying in the wilderness. Exactly.. The biggest mistake was keeping Colin on.. All this one more year bollox has led to this.. Thanks for the brilliant memories neil.. But stay in the past.. That was a weak decision by the new heirarchy.. Don’t be swayed by public opinion.. Pick the right man.. Tek a risk.. Not the safe option.. 🍻🍻
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Post by Melc on Jan 31, 2024 20:06:47 GMT 1
In the bin were it should be. Swear some fans just don’t understand how bad relegation would be. Let me start 7 million revenue hit instantly. BINGO….. How did I know you would reply…. I can assure you I get how bad relegation would be, but what has that got to do with Warnock? Really no offence intended, but why are you so obsessed with him? There is no guarantees which ever manager/ coach we bring in will keep us up. Warnock did not want to be here long term, but I do admit he would have done a bit better than Moore if he had. Now it is time to move on and trust whoever we end up getting can save our season.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 31, 2024 20:08:13 GMT 1
Swear some fans just don’t understand how bad relegation would be. Let me start 7 million revenue hit instantly. BINGO….. How did I know you would reply…. I can assure you I get how bad relegation would be, but what has that got to do with Warnock? Really no offence intended, but why are you so obsessed with him. There is no guarantees which ever manager/ coach we bring in will keep us up. Warnock did not want to be here long term, but I do admit he would have done a bit better than Moore if he had. Now it is time to move on and trust whoever we end up getting can save our season. The one silver lining of relegation might be big Kev investing enough for us to have a pop at winning the league,....
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Post by mightyterrier on Jan 31, 2024 20:35:25 GMT 1
Pick the right man and there is no way this squad with our new (and potentially more) acquisitions should be relegated. A manager with an ounce of charisma and character would be nice.
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Post by Spike24 on Jan 31, 2024 20:37:54 GMT 1
A driving ban just makes Huddersfield an even more attractive proposition for Heckingbottom, or Heckbum which my son called him when he played for Bradford, than a club further from Barnsley. After all the errmms and told listen! scaffolding and spanish/english no one understands, his press stuff will be a nice change. He talks great, he even sounds like most of us. If we’ve met him, which we have, i can’t believe we were anything other than impressed. I also like Stuart McCall. Everyone fails at Bradford, can’t hold that against him. wasn't Mark Hudson at Sheffield utd with him too?
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Post by terriers2000 on Jan 31, 2024 20:51:20 GMT 1
Don’t know if this has been mentioned but seen Ruben Selles (reading manager) has appeared on Sky bet at 8/1
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Post by rockwall on Jan 31, 2024 20:58:48 GMT 1
Noticed Rowett isn't even on SkyBet
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Post by waggers on Jan 31, 2024 20:59:26 GMT 1
The pro Moore anti Warnock brigade went quiet a while ago. They pedalled out 'we don't have fit strikers, it's not Moore's fault'. When we get strikers in and we were just as tripe they went missing. There's such a thing as a balanced and measured opinion, looking at all angles. Not everything has to be tribal and/or sensationalised. Its not about gloating I said this and this happened. I didn't see any true 'pro-Moore' perspectives. I haven't seen any anti-Warnock either. But I did see that we had no strikers available at times, which any manager would have incidentally struggled with - that is undeniable. And there are valid perspectives that say this isn't the time for Warnock's return. It is OK to say, Warnock / Moore did this and that wrong, but they also had to work with x and y and did such and such right. Both managers made some cock-ups which led to their demise one way or another. One just did better than the other before the inevitable under the circumstances. That doesn't make anyone anti or pro anything. Town fans need to move on. Stop baiting each another for having a slightly diff perspective, its pathetic. I agree with your point in general, but I certainly did see some strong anti Warnock posters who because of their vehement dislike for Warnock constantly made excuses for Moore.
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Post by Tiro on Jan 31, 2024 21:02:03 GMT 1
Noticed Rowett isn't even on SkyBet The comparison with Charltons odds (BetVictor) makes for interesting reading given there are a lot of similar candidates listed. Jones 1/1 Rowett 2/1 Parker 5/1 Warnock 12/1 Duff 12/1
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 31, 2024 21:05:44 GMT 1
Don’t know if this has been mentioned but seen Ruben Selles (reading manager) has appeared on Sky bet at 8/1 Fits the profile of a long-term tactically knowledgable manager. Impossible to judge him on the car crash at Reading.
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Post by space hardware on Jan 31, 2024 21:05:52 GMT 1
Hoping we're aiming high, rather than another lazy, middling option like Moore was.
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Post by eric on Jan 31, 2024 21:14:07 GMT 1
Noticed Rowett isn't even on SkyBet The comparison with Charltons odds (BetVictor) makes for interesting reading given there are a lot of similar candidates listed. Jones 1/1 Rowett 2/1 Parker 5/1 Warnock 12/1 Duff 12/1 It would be odd if he went to Charlton. One of the reasons he gave for leaving Millwall was the distance between there and his family home in the Midlands.
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Post by jqhtfc on Jan 31, 2024 21:14:44 GMT 1
Don’t know if this has been mentioned but seen Ruben Selles (reading manager) has appeared on Sky bet at 8/1 Fits the profile of a long-term tactically knowledgable manager. Impossible to judge him on the car crash at Reading. Mates a reading fan and he really likes him, had a tough start but really started to turn it around apparently says given everything going on at reading they can’t ask much more from him.
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Post by eric on Jan 31, 2024 21:16:02 GMT 1
Don’t know if this has been mentioned but seen Ruben Selles (reading manager) has appeared on Sky bet at 8/1 Fits the profile of a long-term tactically knowledgable manager. Impossible to judge him on the car crash at Reading. I think Selles is a good coach. As you said, can't be judged on the ongoing madness at Reading.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Jan 31, 2024 21:42:49 GMT 1
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ffp applies in league one.. if Kevs willing to stump up the money we could do an Ipswich
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Post by leroy212 on Jan 31, 2024 21:49:05 GMT 1
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ffp applies in league one.. if Kevs willing to stump up the money we could do an Ipswich Believe you can spend 70% of your income on wages in league one
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Post by twyford on Jan 31, 2024 21:57:22 GMT 1
BINGO….. How did I know you would reply…. I can assure you I get how bad relegation would be, but what has that got to do with Warnock? Really no offence intended, but why are you so obsessed with him. There is no guarantees which ever manager/ coach we bring in will keep us up. Warnock did not want to be here long term, but I do admit he would have done a bit better than Moore if he had. Now it is time to move on and trust whoever we end up getting can save our season. The one silver lining of relegation might be big Kev investing enough for us to have a pop at winning the league,.... The only division we've not won.
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Post by billy143 on Jan 31, 2024 22:08:23 GMT 1
When you look at the full list of runners and riders on Skybet. I don't know if it's just me, but none of them get me thinking he's the 1 to make us better.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 31, 2024 22:15:36 GMT 1
I'm glad you agree. I sometimes think I am a voice crying in the wilderness. Exactly.. The biggest mistake was keeping Colin on.. All this one more year bollox has led to this.. Thanks for the brilliant memories neil.. But stay in the past.. That was a weak decision by the new heirarchy.. Don’t be swayed by public opinion.. Pick the right man.. Tek a risk.. Not the safe option.. 🍻🍻 If the song had been 3 more games Warnock, 3 more games. I think the public would have had a different opinion.
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Post by Stiggy on Jan 31, 2024 22:16:31 GMT 1
Hoping it’s not Heckingbottom, Duff or Parker. Good grief!
We may as well kept have Moore.
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