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Post by rockwall on Feb 4, 2024 23:25:40 GMT 1
You chat so much bull. 22/23 average 16.5k 21/22 average 14k 20/21 average 12.3k So attendances went up during his reign. Am I chatting bull or the milwall fans quoted? You said they stopped going. The facts are, their average attendences actually went up.
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 4, 2024 23:26:18 GMT 1
Am I chatting bull or the milwall fans quoted? You said they stopped going. The facts are, their average attendences actually went up. So who knows more about rowett ball us or milwall fans?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 4, 2024 23:26:45 GMT 1
I think it's going to be a manager that hasn't even been mentioned.
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 4, 2024 23:27:44 GMT 1
I think it's going to be a manager that hasn't even been mentioned. Hopefully
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Feb 4, 2024 23:40:32 GMT 1
Like I said, show me that they "hated" his style of football. I'm struggling how you've convinced yourself that if we did go for him, he's getting sacked in 12 months time regardless of where we are in the league. What is this a court, do I need to provide evidence. I told you it doesnāt take long search their forum or Twitter. Here is a reply to a thread which sums it up, yeah he was in context a success but their fans thought it was boring and had stopped attending Well done, you found two tweets about an unknown number of fans stopping going to watch Millwall. One of them even acknowledges the success he had with Millwall. Like I said, if we hired him and he left after getting us into the top half two years in a row, hell I will take that after the shite we've seen most of the last 5 and a half years. Still not seen anything to suggest that Birmingham fans were "bored to death" with his football as you suggested. The facts remain that he's only been sacked once for poor results and his numbers are as good as anyone who's managed as many games as he has in the Championship. If you want to ignore what a manager has actually achieved and write them off because of a pre-conceived opinion and a couple of tweets following 4 successful years, that's fine. You do you, I'll be realistic.
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Post by rockwall on Feb 4, 2024 23:42:52 GMT 1
You said they stopped going. The facts are, their average attendences actually went up. So who knows more about rowett ball us or milwall fans? Clearly they didn't find it boring if averages went up every season.
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Post by desertstorm on Feb 4, 2024 23:44:13 GMT 1
The majority of you may be pleasantly surprised. Some of the candidates we are speaking to have stature in the game and are interested. The club are being really proactive in speaking to some exciting prospects. Could be a really exciting time for all š¤ I think it will need to be pretty special to make the majority on here pleasantly surprised. The expectation on this appointment is through the roof. Youāre not wrong š
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 4, 2024 23:46:45 GMT 1
I think it will need to be pretty special to make the majority on here pleasantly surprised. The expectation on this appointment is through the roof. Youāre not wrong š Are we looking at manager/head coaches who are in work, or just out of work guys?
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 4, 2024 23:46:50 GMT 1
What is this a court, do I need to provide evidence. I told you it doesnāt take long search their forum or Twitter. Here is a reply to a thread which sums it up, yeah he was in context a success but their fans thought it was boring and had stopped attending Well done, you found two tweets about an unknown number of fans stopping going to watch Millwall. One of them even acknowledges the success he had with Millwall. Like I said, if we hired him and he left after getting us into the top half two years in a row, hell I will take that after the shite we've seen most of the last 5 and a half years. Still not seen anything to suggest that Birmingham fans were "bored to death" with his football as you suggested. The facts remain that he's only been sacked once for poor results and his numbers are as good as anyone who's managed as many games as he has in the Championship. If you want to ignore what a manager has actually achieved and write them off because of a pre-conceived opinion and a couple of tweets following 4 successful years, that's fine. You do you, I'll be realistic. FFS do I have to go back and find stuff from all his clubs and what is the bar on number of bored fans on Twitter or forums? Again I donāt think heās a bad manager nor am I ignoring him. His teams play a pretty pragmatic and in some people eyes negative football. I donāt think it would last long with a club so starved of entertainment as we are, my point is if Gary rowett got us to 14th this time next year people would get restless and bored with it. In my opinion we would be better off with a more adventurous and tactically astute manager that could give us the edge over teams with better resources than us. I accept that this could all backfire in our face and a Gary rowett is a safer bet but I would just prefer we take a gamble why this offends you so much I donāt know but I respect your opinion that rowett would be our best bet
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Post by desertstorm on Feb 4, 2024 23:48:21 GMT 1
The majority of you may be pleasantly surprised. Some of the candidates we are speaking to have stature in the game and are interested. The club are being really proactive in speaking to some exciting prospects. Could be a really exciting time for all š¤ Come on, Jose š¤Ø Iām sure someone on here will have seen his helicopter hovering over the stadium car park š
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Post by desertstorm on Feb 4, 2024 23:55:42 GMT 1
Are we looking at manager/head coaches who are in work, or just out of work guys? UK - Out of work but some interest from people in work but not currently as managers/HC of clubs Abroad - Weāre proactive in discussions with someone currently in a role Whether this is a HC or Manager role will depend of the candidate that signs of the dotted line. Personally speaking I canāt see a good few of them wanting to operate in a HC capacity and would want to steer the ship.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 4, 2024 23:58:33 GMT 1
Are we looking at manager/head coaches who are in work, or just out of work guys? UK - Out of work but some interest from people in work but not currently as managers/HC of clubs Abroad - Weāre proactive in discussions with someone currently in a role Whether this is a HC or Manager role will depend of the candidate that signs of the dotted line. Personally speaking I canāt see a good few of them wanting to operate in a HC capacity and would want to steer the ship. Would you say we are not , in our usual field of managers / head coaches in this search. As you have said there are some exciting possiblities in the mix.
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Post by desertstorm on Feb 5, 2024 0:05:42 GMT 1
UK - Out of work but some interest from people in work but not currently as managers/HC of clubs Abroad - Weāre proactive in discussions with someone currently in a role Whether this is a HC or Manager role will depend of the candidate that signs of the dotted line. Personally speaking I canāt see a good few of them wanting to operate in a HC capacity and would want to steer the ship. Would you say we are not , in our usual field of managers / head coaches in this search. As you have said there are some exciting possiblities in the mix. Iād say our search is proactive and consistent with KN well documented long term vision for the club. However, as stated by Maynard short term and long term needs can be difficult to find This is far from straight forward, mainly down to our precarious position.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 5, 2024 0:10:01 GMT 1
Would you say we are not , in our usual field of managers / head coaches in this search. As you have said there are some exciting possiblities in the mix. Iād say our search is proactive and consistent with KN well documented long term vision for the club. However, as stated by Maynard short term and long term needs can be difficult to find This is far from straight forward, mainly down to our precarious position. Thanks for your input mate.
I hope Nagle is a big part in this process, as somtimes its not the one with the best record or most experince , that is the best choice . It can actually be when you get a good feeling from a guy. Hoyle said it himself from the moment he met Wagner , he knew he wanted him in as the coach. Nagle needs that same type of feeling and not just stats but actually how they come across etc.
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Post by itkterrier on Feb 5, 2024 1:04:11 GMT 1
Are we looking at manager/head coaches who are in work, or just out of work guys? UK - Out of work but some interest from people in work but not currently as managers/HC of clubs Abroad - Weāre proactive in discussions with someone currently in a role Whether this is a HC or Manager role will depend of the candidate that signs of the dotted line. Personally speaking I canāt see a good few of them wanting to operate in a HC capacity and would want to steer the ship. Has the one abroad been mentioned on this thread?
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 5, 2024 1:13:24 GMT 1
Iām sure someone on here will have seen his helicopter hovering over the stadium car park š He was hiding from the paparazzi in the back of Burgzorg's G-Wagen after full time yesterday
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 5, 2024 1:15:22 GMT 1
We just need someone who the fans of his previous clubs were universally suicidal at the news he was leaving...someone with an unblemished track record of success..not just winning, but winning playing the type of football that would make Brazil 1970 look like Harry Bassett's Wimbledon. Someone with so much charisma, wit and personality that his post match interviews collapse into a chaotic scramble for the nearest A&E due to all the cracked ribs through laughing so much. Someone with an IQ into 4 figures who is so tactically astute Pep Guardiola will be seen on the canal towpath with a pair of binoculars and notepad.
Stop mucking about Kev and appoint someone like that!
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 5, 2024 1:19:52 GMT 1
We just need someone who the fans of his previous clubs were universally suicidal at the news he was leaving...someone with an unblemished track record of success..not just winning, but winning playing the type of football that would make Brazil 1970 look like Harry Bassett's Wimbledon. Someone with so much charisma, wit and personality that his post match interviews collapse into a chaotic scramble for the nearest A&E due to all the cracked ribs through laughing so much. Someone with an IQ into 4 figures who is so tactically astute Pep Guardiola will be seen on the canal towpath with a pair of binoculars and notepad. Stop mucking about Kev and appoint someone like that! Stan Turnip incoming... š¤£
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Post by willo on Feb 5, 2024 1:29:56 GMT 1
I think it will need to be pretty special to make the majority on here pleasantly surprised. The expectation on this appointment is through the roof. Youāre not wrong š Given 3 out of the last 4 appointments have been shockers, is it any wonder fans expectations are high? We cannot afford to mess this one up. Thereās a lot riding on it and the fans know it all too well. No pressure then Kev š.
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Post by irverino on Feb 5, 2024 3:25:11 GMT 1
MC is not liked by anyone at Town......Apparently.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Feb 5, 2024 3:53:47 GMT 1
We just need someone who the fans of his previous clubs were universally suicidal at the news he was leaving...someone with an unblemished track record of success..not just winning, but winning playing the type of football that would make Brazil 1970 look like Harry Bassett's Wimbledon. Someone with so much charisma, wit and personality that his post match interviews collapse into a chaotic scramble for the nearest A&E due to all the cracked ribs through laughing so much. Someone with an IQ into 4 figures who is so tactically astute Pep Guardiola will be seen on the canal towpath with a pair of binoculars and notepad. Stop mucking about Kev and appoint someone like that! Heās at Tottenham, I suggested him but we got Carlos (who turned out alright, but heās no Ange). Donāt think heāll come here, his next step is a big 5 club.
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Post by kyg on Feb 5, 2024 4:20:00 GMT 1
The club should involve the fans... a decision made by those in charge has a 90% failure rate. I reckon I can tell you if a manager is any good within 30 seconds of his first interview... even if he is good, within 30 seconds the fans will judge them as a š or š Crazy idea. Managing by committee is not the way to go.
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Post by dbterrier32 on Feb 5, 2024 6:03:14 GMT 1
A lot of talk about styles (me included) and the more I think about it, the passing around the back is pretty boring to watch. What is exciting, which was showcased on Saturday was the counter attacking at pace. This is what gets the fans on their feet and pumped up. So this is what I want from the new manager.
Although my point will probably change again....and again until we appoint somebody.
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Post by dbterrier32 on Feb 5, 2024 6:06:21 GMT 1
Are we looking at manager/head coaches who are in work, or just out of work guys? UK - Out of work but some interest from people in work but not currently as managers/HC of clubs Abroad - Weāre proactive in discussions with someone currently in a role Whether this is a HC or Manager role will depend of the candidate that signs of the dotted line. Personally speaking I canāt see a good few of them wanting to operate in a HC capacity and would want to steer the ship. The UK option (in work but not HC or manager). Is it by any chance Klopp's assistant? Some may say he wont come to Town. Maybe not, maybe thinks his stock is a lot higher. But, maybe just but he is looking to get into management in his own right. He starts looking at what jobs are out there. A championship club. He askes Jurgen what he thinks. Well its Huddersfield. I'll ask my mate David what he thought of Huddersfield. He must only have good things to say. Granted its a new ownership but the fans and the rest of it was a massive hit. So who knows.
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Feb 5, 2024 7:35:52 GMT 1
MC is not liked by anyone at Town......Apparently. that canāt be true, Tom Edwards must love him
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Post by SNOWY on Feb 5, 2024 7:42:43 GMT 1
The club should involve the fans... a decision made by those in charge has a 90% failure rate. I reckon I can tell you if a manager is any good within 30 seconds of his first interview... even if he is good, within 30 seconds the fans will judge them as a š or š Crazy idea. Ā Managing by committee is not the way to go. Noy saying in an official capacity to do it by commitee, but rather gauge public opinion and factor that into the decision. I If you are having second interviews with say 3 candidates, they must all pass the football test and other criteria so it comes down to opinion anyway. The most critical opinion at that stage will be the reaction of the fans. If they bought in Duff or Rowett or heckingbottim or any merry go manager then they won't last... similarly a Fotheringham. Look at worthy. In reality he wasn't that comfortable in the news conference, but he connected with the fans because he knows the club, maybe he should be on the panel. I'm not sure cartwright or Edwards know the club and the culture of our part of West yorkshire that well yet. Wagner was universally backed from his first interview. If we don't get someone with a connection or the good will of fans we will be looking again in October. We need style of play, A communicator, An element of unknown but with a plan... think Geaganpressing. A character, enthusiasm, Passionate etc. We also need to win games in the short term and build long term. It's a tough choice. Get the fans onside and its a whole lot easier. You can guarantee within seconds of duff, rowett etc the atmosphere will be somewhere between lukewarm and toxic. I think they are probably one level above Darren.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Feb 5, 2024 7:49:17 GMT 1
Thereās that buzzword again, toxic.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Feb 5, 2024 7:55:34 GMT 1
We just need someone who the fans of his previous clubs were universally suicidal at the news he was leaving...someone with an unblemished track record of success..not just winning, but winning playing the type of football that would make Brazil 1970 look like Harry Bassett's Wimbledon. Someone with so much charisma, wit and personality that his post match interviews collapse into a chaotic scramble for the nearest A&E due to all the cracked ribs through laughing so much. Someone with an IQ into 4 figures who is so tactically astute Pep Guardiola will be seen on the canal towpath with a pair of binoculars and notepad. Stop mucking about Kev and appoint someone like that! Canāt believe youāre still banging on about John Sheridanā¦
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Post by dugnet on Feb 5, 2024 8:16:13 GMT 1
The majority of you may be pleasantly surprised. Some of the candidates we are speaking to have stature in the game and are interested. The club are being really proactive in speaking to some exciting prospects. Could be a really exciting time for all š¤ That's encouraging and also suggests we have something that candidates of stature are interested in. The Moore appointment didnāt really fall into part of the "exciting time" narrative (admittedly I say that now with experience and hindsight) so someone that underpins the implied ambition would be very welcome. That said we need to retain our Championship status which might not be easy to balance ie the now and the future.
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Post by SNOWY on Feb 5, 2024 8:41:51 GMT 1
Thereās that buzzword again, toxic. Exactly..... footballers are judged before they kick a ball for us... usually either shit, infifferent or superb, not often a signing deemed shit on DATM works out.
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