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Post by dezzly on Feb 6, 2024 9:40:21 GMT 1
If last season taught us anything, it’s that a seasoned Championship manager who knows the division is the best way out of trouble. I don’t think you can have an experimental foreign coach come in when we’re in this position and get new ideas across to a limited set of players. They would need a pre-season or have the luxury of us genuinely being in a position of strength. I know that might not sound very exciting, but we need to stay in this division first and foremost. If they have an identity, it shouldn't matter. We were teetering above the drop zone when we appointed Wagner. But because we saw an instant change and a plan, we knew we would end up safe. Then pre season, the current group already knew his way and we had a fantastic window. Personally, I don't think it matters where a new manager may come from, if they have a plan and the players get on board with it, that's all we need. Would agree.if you look at it from the point of view that Moore has kept chipping away at enough points to keep us above the drop zone and the general(not every bodies) opinion is that Moore had no real plan,was largely risk averse and wasn’t the best motivator then really anyone who can setup well tactically with a decent game plan and some sort of style of play should see us move away. That said that would be the logical way of thinking and football doesn’t always work like that.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 6, 2024 9:41:23 GMT 1
I’d like Frank Lampard and his Chelsea connections. Can’t see him getting a better job or him taking a worse one. Do you want to support a League 1 club, that would be self sabotage Maybe not suited to a relegation battle but someone that would get automatic respect. He didn’t do well at Chelsea or Everton but some of the best managers around have followed him and not done much better. We’d have to change our name though to Frank Lampard’s Huddersfield Town.
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Post by upthetown on Feb 6, 2024 9:53:44 GMT 1
Do you want to support a League 1 club, that would be self sabotage Maybe not suited to a relegation battle but someone that would get automatic respect. He didn’t do well at Chelsea or Everton but some of the best managers around have followed him and not done much better. We’d have to change our name though to Frank Lampard’s Huddersfield Town. He’s a terrible manager. Look at the players he had at Derby too, and how they’re still paying the price now for over spending. Wouldn’t touch Lampard, Gerrard or Parker with a barge pole. All need massive budgets and are not good managers.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 6, 2024 10:19:02 GMT 1
If last season taught us anything, it’s that a seasoned Championship manager who knows the division is the best way out of trouble. I don’t think you can have an experimental foreign coach come in when we’re in this position and get new ideas across to a limited set of players. They would need a pre-season or have the luxury of us genuinely being in a position of strength. I know that might not sound very exciting, but we need to stay in this division first and foremost. If they have an identity, it shouldn't matter. We were teetering above the drop zone when we appointed Wagner. But because we saw an instant change and a plan, we knew we would end up safe. Then pre season, the current group already knew his way and we had a fantastic window. Personally, I don't think it matters where a new manager may come from, if they have a plan and the players get on board with it, that's all we need. But Wagner joined in October/November didn't he ? He had 6 months of the season to go for, this time it's 3 1/2 🤷
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Post by htfc1908 on Feb 6, 2024 10:20:25 GMT 1
Maybe not suited to a relegation battle but someone that would get automatic respect. He didn’t do well at Chelsea or Everton but some of the best managers around have followed him and not done much better. We’d have to change our name though to Frank Lampard’s Huddersfield Town. He’s a terrible manager. Look at the players he had at Derby too, and how they’re still paying the price now for over spending. Wouldn’t touch Lampard, Gerrard or Parker with a barge pole. All need massive budgets and are not good managers. Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney et al all world class players but have so far been really poor managers and when you think about it there's not been many top English players that have made exceptional managers, Brian Clough, Bobby Robson and errm.............
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Feb 6, 2024 10:22:09 GMT 1
Tell you what would be poor, if they do end up appointing Duff this week having wasted two weeks interviewing a load of people just to take the guy they could have brought in last Tuesday as soon as they had parted with Moore.
The longer this process goes on the more hopeful I am they have identified and managed to convince somebody in a job or from abroad to take up the challenge, otherwise as i say above they've just completely wasted two weeks of Duff getting his ideas across to the players. (Which would feel very town/Cartwright).
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Post by belizian on Feb 6, 2024 10:25:40 GMT 1
Let the senior players pick the team and strategy, they know the strength and weakness' of both our players and probably most of the teams we're facing - save money and a lot of arguing on here and probably a better result then the manger our management will pick. There's an excellent chance that our next manager will be yet another f*ck up.
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Post by ldhtafc99 on Feb 6, 2024 10:34:11 GMT 1
Tell you what would be poor, if they do end up appointing Duff this week having wasted two weeks interviewing a load of people just to take the guy they could have brought in last Tuesday as soon as they had parted with Moore. The longer this process goes on the more hopeful I am they have identified and managed to convince somebody in a job or from abroad to take up the challenge, otherwise as i say above they've just completely wasted two weeks of Duff getting his ideas across to the players. (Which would feel very town/Cartwright). But if we'd have appointed someone 2/3 days after sacking Moore and the first couple of results weren't perfect, everyone would've said it's been rushed etc etc
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Post by ColchTerrier on Feb 6, 2024 10:35:32 GMT 1
Got a feeling we’ll be back here again next season if it’s Duff.
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 6, 2024 10:36:55 GMT 1
If we manage to, by some minor miracle, beat Southampton on Saturday then we need to be giving the job to Worthington until the end of the season.
He's passionate and he believes in the players. As I said before, this feels similar to when we brought in Jacko for the great escape. He isn't the long term answer at all but once/if we guarantee survival then we become a much more attractive prospect for a decent manager.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 6, 2024 10:38:31 GMT 1
Maybe not suited to a relegation battle but someone that would get automatic respect. He didn’t do well at Chelsea or Everton but some of the best managers around have followed him and not done much better. We’d have to change our name though to Frank Lampard’s Huddersfield Town. He’s a terrible manager. Look at the players he had at Derby too, and how they’re still paying the price now for over spending. Wouldn’t touch Lampard, Gerrard or Parker with a barge pole. All need massive budgets and are not good managers. Dwayne Holmes? Keogh? Look at the team that won at Leeds (i loved that game) Mason Mount and Tomori, why were they there? Only Tom Lawrence would i describe as expensive.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Feb 6, 2024 10:38:37 GMT 1
Tell you what would be poor, if they do end up appointing Duff this week having wasted two weeks interviewing a load of people just to take the guy they could have brought in last Tuesday as soon as they had parted with Moore. The longer this process goes on the more hopeful I am they have identified and managed to convince somebody in a job or from abroad to take up the challenge, otherwise as i say above they've just completely wasted two weeks of Duff getting his ideas across to the players. (Which would feel very town/Cartwright). But if we'd have appointed someone 2/3 days after sacking Moore and the first couple of results weren't perfect, everyone would've said it's been rushed etc etc Very true
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Post by castlehillterrier on Feb 6, 2024 10:42:16 GMT 1
Maybe not suited to a relegation battle but someone that would get automatic respect. He didn’t do well at Chelsea or Everton but some of the best managers around have followed him and not done much better. We’d have to change our name though to Frank Lampard’s Huddersfield Town. He’s a terrible manager. Look at the players he had at Derby too, and how they’re still paying the price now for over spending. Wouldn’t touch Lampard, Gerrard or Parker with a barge pole. All need massive budgets and are not good managers. Lampard = no interest from him or us. Gerrard = no interest from him, I am sure we would be interested if he expressed an interest however. Parker = interest from both manager and the club and interviews have taken place with Scott. I am coming around to the idea of something more like the above rather than some of the boring uninspiring names like Duff, Rowett, Heckingbottom, Pearson, etc etc all just strike me as quite boring and very much simalar to Moore in terms of excitement. I really think we need to have someone with some passion and character to get the players and fans full backing, a statement of intent appointment. If we did appoint a Parker type he would not come without the promise of backing in the summer, I know he has really impressed with his attitude and professionalism, my only real doubt would be the timing and an appointment like Parker could be a great move once we are safe and planning for next season, a large change of style now may be too much for some of our current squad in our current situation.
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Post by willo on Feb 6, 2024 10:45:19 GMT 1
If we manage to, by some minor miracle, beat Southampton on Saturday then we need to be giving the job to Worthington until the end of the season. He's passionate and he believes in the players. As I said before, this feels similar to when we brought in Jacko for the great escape. He isn't the long term answer at all but once/if we guarantee survival then we become a much more attractive prospect for a decent manager. We were awful on Saturday for the first 65 minutes, I couldn’t work out what system Worthy had us playing. Fortunately for us, the massive were so shit that once we scored the first goal, there was only going to be one winner and we then got the Koroma and Sorba show. Jacko had Yorath as his assistant and he was the difference 20+ years ago. We need to choose our man, get him appointed and see out the season - hopefully to safety. FWIW, I’d be pretty underwhelmed if it was Duff, an improvement on Moore undoubtedly but I wouldn’t have said by a big margin.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Feb 6, 2024 10:49:30 GMT 1
Tell you what would be poor, if they do end up appointing Duff this week having wasted two weeks interviewing a load of people just to take the guy they could have brought in last Tuesday as soon as they had parted with Moore. The longer this process goes on the more hopeful I am they have identified and managed to convince somebody in a job or from abroad to take up the challenge, otherwise as i say above they've just completely wasted two weeks of Duff getting his ideas across to the players. (Which would feel very town/Cartwright). Assuming Duff was ready to take over then and gets appointed now, I wouldn't call it a waste of time, more a case of properly reviewing the market and reaching a decision based on all options. Rash decisions never work well, look at our last manager.
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 6, 2024 10:54:19 GMT 1
He’s a terrible manager. Look at the players he had at Derby too, and how they’re still paying the price now for over spending. Wouldn’t touch Lampard, Gerrard or Parker with a barge pole. All need massive budgets and are not good managers. Lampard = no interest from him or us. Gerrard = no interest from him, I am sure we would be interested if he expressed an interest however. Parker = interest from both manager and the club and interviews have taken place with Scott. I am coming around to the idea of something more like the above rather than some of the boring uninspiring names like Duff, Rowett, Heckingbottom, Pearson, etc etc all just strike me as quite boring and very much simalar to Moore in terms of excitement. I really think we need to have someone with some passion and character to get the players and fans full backing, a statement of intent appointment. If we did appoint a Parker type he would not come without the promise of backing in the summer, I know he has really impressed with his attitude and professionalism, my only real doubt would be the timing and an appointment like Parker could be a great move once we are safe and planning for next season, a large change of style now may be too much for some of our current squad in our current situation. Admins could we not implement a "walter mitty" warning attached to the posts of the serial offenders of fantasy.
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Post by dezzly on Feb 6, 2024 10:56:06 GMT 1
He’s a terrible manager. Look at the players he had at Derby too, and how they’re still paying the price now for over spending. Wouldn’t touch Lampard, Gerrard or Parker with a barge pole. All need massive budgets and are not good managers. Lampard = no interest from him or us. Gerrard = no interest from him, I am sure we would be interested if he expressed an interest however. Parker = interest from both manager and the club and interviews have taken place with Scott. I am coming around to the idea of something more like the above rather than some of the boring uninspiring names like Duff, Rowett, Heckingbottom, Pearson, etc etc all just strike me as quite boring and very much simalar to Moore in terms of excitement. I really think we need to have someone with some passion and character to get the players and fans full backing, a statement of intent appointment. If we did appoint a Parker type he would not come without the promise of backing in the summer, I know he has really impressed with his attitude and professionalism, my only real doubt would be the timing and an appointment like Parker could be a great move once we are safe and planning for next season, a large change of style now may be too much for some of our current squad in our current situation. Would Parker be a large change of style? It’s largely thought that his football wasn’t that cracking with two of the best squads at championship level in recent years. Out of all the names for me he would be the one I least wanted. I might be way off with that but it’s just my opinion. I imagine he dies however come across very professionally in an interview setting.
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 6, 2024 10:57:10 GMT 1
Do you want to support a League 1 club, that would be self sabotage Maybe not suited to a relegation battle but someone that would get automatic respect. He didn’t do well at Chelsea or Everton but some of the best managers around have followed him and not done much better. We’d have to change our name though to Frank Lampard’s Huddersfield Town. Id rather we gave up on trying to survive at this level than pay someone like him or gerrard or rooney. I honestly mean that. Everything that is wrong about modern football.
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 6, 2024 10:59:59 GMT 1
He’s a terrible manager. Look at the players he had at Derby too, and how they’re still paying the price now for over spending. Wouldn’t touch Lampard, Gerrard or Parker with a barge pole. All need massive budgets and are not good managers. Lampard = no interest from him or us. Gerrard = no interest from him, I am sure we would be interested if he expressed an interest however. Parker = interest from both manager and the club and interviews have taken place with Scott.
I am coming around to the idea of something more like the above rather than some of the boring uninspiring names like Duff, Rowett, Heckingbottom, Pearson, etc etc all just strike me as quite boring and very much simalar to Moore in terms of excitement. I really think we need to have someone with some passion and character to get the players and fans full backing, a statement of intent appointment. If we did appoint a Parker type he would not come without the promise of backing in the summer, I know he has really impressed with his attitude and professionalism, my only real doubt would be the timing and an appointment like Parker could be a great move once we are safe and planning for next season, a large change of style now may be too much for some of our current squad in our current situation. I hope you're as wide of the mark on this one as you usually are. If Scott Parker gets the job I think I'll need to find something else to do on a saturday afternoon.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Feb 6, 2024 11:04:10 GMT 1
Lampard = no interest from him or us. Gerrard = no interest from him, I am sure we would be interested if he expressed an interest however. Parker = interest from both manager and the club and interviews have taken place with Scott. I am coming around to the idea of something more like the above rather than some of the boring uninspiring names like Duff, Rowett, Heckingbottom, Pearson, etc etc all just strike me as quite boring and very much simalar to Moore in terms of excitement. I really think we need to have someone with some passion and character to get the players and fans full backing, a statement of intent appointment. If we did appoint a Parker type he would not come without the promise of backing in the summer, I know he has really impressed with his attitude and professionalism, my only real doubt would be the timing and an appointment like Parker could be a great move once we are safe and planning for next season, a large change of style now may be too much for some of our current squad in our current situation. Would Parker be a large change of style? It’s largely thought that his football wasn’t that cracking with two of the best squads at championship level in recent years. Out of all the names for me he would be the one I least wanted. I might be way off with that but it’s just my opinion. I imagine he dies however come across very professionally in an interview setting. Style a lot more possesion based in the past, that doesnt mean he will have the same style at a new club and maybe able to adapt with the players he has to work with. I hope if the owner and board decide on someone like Scott Parker, it gets backing from the fans they are not rushing this one and whoever is appointed will be a considered option it would be very easy to just appoint a Rowett or Pearson now and I would suggest it will keep us up but are they really what we want next season and beyond ? its really tricky as the ones we want long term may not be as great in the short term. The fans backing of any appointment can make a massive difference with how this next appointment works out we are not going to have a NW type buzz with everyone its almost impossible noboody avaialble currently would give that kind of reaction unfortunatly.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Feb 6, 2024 11:07:23 GMT 1
Lampard = no interest from him or us. Gerrard = no interest from him, I am sure we would be interested if he expressed an interest however. Parker = interest from both manager and the club and interviews have taken place with Scott.
I am coming around to the idea of something more like the above rather than some of the boring uninspiring names like Duff, Rowett, Heckingbottom, Pearson, etc etc all just strike me as quite boring and very much simalar to Moore in terms of excitement. I really think we need to have someone with some passion and character to get the players and fans full backing, a statement of intent appointment. If we did appoint a Parker type he would not come without the promise of backing in the summer, I know he has really impressed with his attitude and professionalism, my only real doubt would be the timing and an appointment like Parker could be a great move once we are safe and planning for next season, a large change of style now may be too much for some of our current squad in our current situation. I hope you're as wide of the mark on this one as you usually are. If Scott Parker gets the job I think I'll need to find something else to do on a saturday afternoon. Why so much against him ? his championship teams have been good to watch, he speaks well, he is well respected in the game as a players and manager (ex england captain), it also shows some intent from the owner as Scott would only come to a club that has the possibilty to challenge for promotion in the next few seasons which means we will invest in the squad.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Feb 6, 2024 11:11:16 GMT 1
Would Parker be a large change of style? It’s largely thought that his football wasn’t that cracking with two of the best squads at championship level in recent years. Out of all the names for me he would be the one I least wanted. I might be way off with that but it’s just my opinion. I imagine he dies however come across very professionally in an interview setting. Style a lot more possesion based in the past, that doesnt mean he will have the same style at a new club and maybe able to adapt with the players he has to work with. I hope if the owner and board decide on someone like Scott Parker, it gets backing from the fans they are not rushing this one and whoever is appointed will be a considered option it would be very easy to just appoint a Rowett or Pearson now and I would suggest it will keep us up but are they really what we want next season and beyond ? its really tricky as the ones we want long term may not be as great in the short term. The fans backing of any appointment can make a massive difference with how this next appointment works out we are not going to have a NW type buzz with everyone its almost impossible noboody avaialble currently would give that kind of reaction unfortunatly. Rowett who gets his teams to finish in the top half? Yes please. Parker had the best team in the championship with Fulham and a certain mitrovic who scored for fun. Ended up in the playoffs. Then got relegated. Then finished second to his ex team, good achievement of course. However again, had a squad capable of finishing top 2. Then took over Brugge who had won the league the season before and won twice in twelve games and got sacked. Please don’t spend the next few days spouting your usual nonsense because you got some information from the cleaner at canalside.
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Post by RickDangerous on Feb 6, 2024 11:11:25 GMT 1
I hope you're as wide of the mark on this one as you usually are. If Scott Parker gets the job I think I'll need to find something else to do on a saturday afternoon. Why so much against him ? his championship teams have been good to watch, he speaks well, he is well respected in the game as a players and manager (ex england captain), it also shows some intent from the owner as Scott would only come to a club that has the possibilty to challenge for promotion in the next few seasons which means we will invest in the squad. Because the promotions on his CV were gained despite having him, he tried his best to feck both up.
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Post by dezzly on Feb 6, 2024 11:13:34 GMT 1
I’d imagine yes they are monitoring fan reaction to names out there and while not basing the decision solely on those reactions,definitely taking them into consideration.Employing someone overwhelming not wanted for whatever reason just makes the job even harder. I can’t speak for everyone but I feel like that would be the general take on Parker,I maybe wrong there. Yes there is probably no candidate that has everyone on board but there are levels of fan acceptance to work towards. I agree the duffs,heckingbottoms etc don’t really fit the long term thinking most likely but probably sit somewhere more mid term.They could probably work towards a style of play whilst been adaptable on the way to it.Problem is would it be the style of play the club are after. I think the decision will come down to how much risk they are willing to take tbh.
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Post by itkterrier on Feb 6, 2024 11:14:36 GMT 1
Tell you what would be poor, if they do end up appointing Duff this week having wasted two weeks interviewing a load of people just to take the guy they could have brought in last Tuesday as soon as they had parted with Moore. The longer this process goes on the more hopeful I am they have identified and managed to convince somebody in a job or from abroad to take up the challenge, otherwise as i say above they've just completely wasted two weeks of Duff getting his ideas across to the players. (Which would feel very town/Cartwright). I hope you’re right. But Cartwright doesn’t instil confidence in me. Hopefully he’s on his last chance and he’ll actually try and go for a decent appointment.
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Post by htafcokay on Feb 6, 2024 11:14:54 GMT 1
If we manage to, by some minor miracle, beat Southampton on Saturday then we need to be giving the job to Worthington until the end of the season. He's passionate and he believes in the players. As I said before, this feels similar to when we brought in Jacko for the great escape. He isn't the long term answer at all but once/if we guarantee survival then we become a much more attractive prospect for a decent manager. No we don't. This reminds me more of the constant "Chicho for me" shouts last season because he'd fluked a win earlier in the season. I like Worthington, and it was a nice throwback on Saturday seeing him in the dugout. But let's not fall into the usual trap of thinking the caretaker manager is the second coming of Guardiola, like we normally do.
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Post by Sio on Feb 6, 2024 11:19:44 GMT 1
Would Parker be a large change of style? It’s largely thought that his football wasn’t that cracking with two of the best squads at championship level in recent years. Out of all the names for me he would be the one I least wanted. I might be way off with that but it’s just my opinion. I imagine he dies however come across very professionally in an interview setting. Style a lot more possesion based in the past, that doesnt mean he will have the same style at a new club and maybe able to adapt with the players he has to work with. I hope if the owner and board decide on someone like Scott Parker, it gets backing from the fans they are not rushing this one and whoever is appointed will be a considered option it would be very easy to just appoint a Rowett or Pearson now and I would suggest it will keep us up but are they really what we want next season and beyond ? its really tricky as the ones we want long term may not be as great in the short term. The fans backing of any appointment can make a massive difference with how this next appointment works out we are not going to have a NW type buzz with everyone its almost impossible noboody avaialble currently would give that kind of reaction unfortunatly. What is your actual agenda, honestly? It's like you're constantly trying to prime the fanbase for disappointment - almost like you've been sent to manage expectations (now hyping up 'Scott' as you did with 'Darren') yet your claims never actually come to fruition. What's the deal?
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Post by specialun on Feb 6, 2024 11:28:25 GMT 1
For those of you wanting a focus on a short term appointment
Are you thinking 1. we’ll give someone & their coaching team of 3/4 a job til end of season - if so who is going to do that? Or 2. Appoint longer term than sack again in the summer to switch to longer term?
3. Explain how the focus on a short term appointment is less risky than appointing someone longer term - who has track record of being appointed and keeping teams up? Obviously Warnock, who else realistically? If it’s less risky let’s have examples
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Feb 6, 2024 11:32:45 GMT 1
Would Parker be a large change of style? Will be if he brings that fckn cardigan....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2024 11:33:29 GMT 1
Lampard = no interest from him or us. Gerrard = no interest from him, I am sure we would be interested if he expressed an interest however. Parker = interest from both manager and the club and interviews have taken place with Scott.
I am coming around to the idea of something more like the above rather than some of the boring uninspiring names like Duff, Rowett, Heckingbottom, Pearson, etc etc all just strike me as quite boring and very much simalar to Moore in terms of excitement. I really think we need to have someone with some passion and character to get the players and fans full backing, a statement of intent appointment. If we did appoint a Parker type he would not come without the promise of backing in the summer, I know he has really impressed with his attitude and professionalism, my only real doubt would be the timing and an appointment like Parker could be a great move once we are safe and planning for next season, a large change of style now may be too much for some of our current squad in our current situation. I hope you're as wide of the mark on this one as you usually are. If Scott Parker gets the job I think I'll need to find something else to do on a saturday afternoon. In terms of character, Scott Parker and his fancy waistcoats, cardigans and people to blame list, are about as far removed from Huddersfield Town as you can get.
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