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Post by sabailand on Feb 6, 2024 19:57:18 GMT 1
I’d agree with Bullock & Morrison. If you read Morrisons autobiography it’s actually quite scarey how unhinged he was, got acquitted in court for GBH same night went out and knocked somebody spark out in a kebab house. Yes i've read his book going on a holiday once (was a long flight) his brothers were a bit mad too. |
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Post by trotsky on Feb 6, 2024 20:09:17 GMT 1
Richard Logan - just as hard as the others being mentioned but is often forgotten. Didn't he once get his scrotum ripped by the studs of an opposition player who kicked him in the bollocks? Played the rest of the game too, although I might have made that bit up!
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Post by scutcher on Feb 6, 2024 20:21:59 GMT 1
Why limit this to a few years? So my vote goes to Jimmy Mc Gill.
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Post by butterpie on Feb 6, 2024 20:25:47 GMT 1
Why limit this to a few years? So my vote goes to Jimmy Mc Gill. I started watching football regularly from 94/95 onwards so feels a bit disingenuous to discuss eras before that. |
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Post by sabailand on Feb 6, 2024 20:26:40 GMT 1
Richard Logan - just as hard as the others being mentioned but is often forgotten. Didn't he once get his scrotum ripped by the studs of an opposition player who kicked him in the bollocks? Played the rest of the game too, although I might have made that bit up! Once read of a town player sometime in the 30's who played two thirds of the game with his head hanging off, similar to in the film Alien when Ripley has a fight with that droid thing and its head comes off, cant remember the players name though, google it. |
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Post by Amigo on Feb 6, 2024 21:24:46 GMT 1
Agree with Allison, Bullock, Jepson and Morrison, way ahead of anyone else in those years.
If forced to pick one as the hardest probably Morrison due to him being the most unpredictable and probably slightly unhinged (for want of a better word!) at times.
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Post by ldotm on Feb 6, 2024 21:27:40 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 6, 2024 21:43:21 GMT 1
Richard Logan - just as hard as the others being mentioned but is often forgotten. Didn't he once get his scrotum ripped by the studs of an opposition player who kicked him in the bollocks? Played the rest of the game too, although I might have made that bit up! Sometimes you get footballers who are noted for being hard men, and it gets overlooked just how good they were as footballers. Richard Logan was not one of those. Could throw the ball from one side of the pitch to the fucking moon, but other than that had little in the way of technical ability. He was absolute fucking nails though. Had the heart of a lion. Because he ripped it out of the lion's chest with his bare hands. |
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Post by Dorset-Terrier on Feb 6, 2024 22:02:51 GMT 1
As per the title, I'm doing some research on a book I'm writing about the hard men who have appeared in the lower leagues for northern clubs, focusing on the years between 95-05. Interested to hear from genuine fans of each club on who they would nominate. I'd also be very grateful for any memories or anecdotes about the said players. Of course, the forum will be credited for anything featured in the book. Hope this type of thread is ok, and I look forward to any responses. I'm sure you lads will move away from the drop zone in due course, cracking win on Saturday. Good luck for the rest of the season. PS. I'm actually a Preston fan, and Sean Gregan will be our inclusion. As someone who lived in Preston for 20years from the mid 90’s, I can confirm that Sean Gregan continued his ‘hard man’ act away from the pitch in the pubs and clubs around Preston…know of a few altercations he ended up in (Andy Lonergan & Rankin were never far away from these incidents as well)… |
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Post by butterpie on Feb 6, 2024 22:13:22 GMT 1
As per the title, I'm doing some research on a book I'm writing about the hard men who have appeared in the lower leagues for northern clubs, focusing on the years between 95-05. Interested to hear from genuine fans of each club on who they would nominate. I'd also be very grateful for any memories or anecdotes about the said players. Of course, the forum will be credited for anything featured in the book. Hope this type of thread is ok, and I look forward to any responses. I'm sure you lads will move away from the drop zone in due course, cracking win on Saturday. Good luck for the rest of the season. PS. I'm actually a Preston fan, and Sean Gregan will be our inclusion. As someone who lived in Preston for 20years from the mid 90’s, I can confirm that Sean Gregan continued his ‘hard man’ act away from the pitch in the pubs and clubs around Preston…know of a few altercations he ended up in (Andy Lonergan & Rankin were never far away from these incidents as well)… Yeah, I think most people in Preston who went out drinking in that time have a Gregan story. I met him in Yatesy's once, can't say I found him particularly endearing. On the other hand, Gareth Ainsworth was one of the best bloke's you will ever meet. Gregan is still probably the biggest PNE cult hero/ legend in the last 30 years though. |
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Post by cuz on Feb 6, 2024 22:17:12 GMT 1
Richard Logan - just as hard as the others being mentioned but is often forgotten. Didn't he once get his scrotum ripped by the studs of an opposition player who kicked him in the bollocks? Played the rest of the game too, although I might have made that bit up! Sometimes you get footballers who are noted for being hard men, and it gets overlooked just how good they were as footballers. Richard Logan was not one of those. Could throw the ball from one side of the pitch to the fucking moon, but other than that had little in the way of technical ability. He was absolute fucking nails though. Had the heart of a lion. Because he ripped it out of the lion's chest with his bare hands. Was it logan who got send off at Shrewsbury after 30 seconds of coming on as a sub?  |
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Post by trotsky on Feb 6, 2024 22:20:46 GMT 1
Richard Logan - just as hard as the others being mentioned but is often forgotten. Didn't he once get his scrotum ripped by the studs of an opposition player who kicked him in the bollocks? Played the rest of the game too, although I might have made that bit up! Sometimes you get footballers who are noted for being hard men, and it gets overlooked just how good they were as footballers. Richard Logan was not one of those. Could throw the ball from one side of the pitch to the fucking moon, but other than that had little in the way of technical ability. He was absolute fucking nails though. Had the heart of a lion. Because he ripped it out of the lion's chest with his bare hands. Excellent description. I think Richard was a hod carrier when Warnock signed him. Imagine going from running up and down ladders all day, every day, carrying tons of bricks to being a pro-footballer. Must have been like a holiday. What a joy it would have been to see him going in for a 50/50 challenge with the likes of Forestieri. I'd have paid good money for that!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 6, 2024 22:36:05 GMT 1
As someone who lived in Preston for 20years from the mid 90’s, I can confirm that Sean Gregan continued his ‘hard man’ act away from the pitch in the pubs and clubs around Preston…know of a few altercations he ended up in (Andy Lonergan & Rankin were never far away from these incidents as well)… Yeah, I think most people in Preston who went out drinking in that time have a Gregan story. I met him in Yatesy's once, can't say I found him particularly endearing. On the other hand, Gareth Ainsworth was one of the best bloke's you will ever meet. Gregan is still probably the biggest PNE cult hero/ legend in the last 30 years though. Well you know what they say, don't meet your heroes. |
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Post by k1man999 on Feb 6, 2024 23:15:12 GMT 1
Gotta be bullock ,jepson,morrison.
I seem to recall Kenny irons liking a bit on the pitch
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 7, 2024 8:46:15 GMT 1
As someone who lived in Preston for 20years from the mid 90’s, I can confirm that Sean Gregan continued his ‘hard man’ act away from the pitch in the pubs and clubs around Preston…know of a few altercations he ended up in (Andy Lonergan & Rankin were never far away from these incidents as well)… Yeah, I think most people in Preston who went out drinking in that time have a Gregan story. I met him in Yatesy's once, can't say I found him particularly endearing. On the other hand, Gareth Ainsworth was one of the best bloke's you will ever meet.Gregan is still probably the biggest PNE cult hero/ legend in the last 30 years though. My cousin used to play for QPR ladies and she was (along with a number of other former QPR players, male and female) invited to open their new training complex last year. Gareth Ainsworth was still manager at the time and she said much the same as you. Properly nice bloke, really down to earth. |
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 7, 2024 9:26:28 GMT 1
Sometimes you get footballers who are noted for being hard men, and it gets overlooked just how good they were as footballers. Richard Logan was not one of those. Could throw the ball from one side of the pitch to the fucking moon, but other than that had little in the way of technical ability. He was absolute fucking nails though. Had the heart of a lion. Because he ripped it out of the lion's chest with his bare hands. Was it logan who got send off at Shrewsbury after 30 seconds of coming on as a sub? Might have, although I don't remember it. |
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Post by diakhabydaily on Feb 7, 2024 9:30:52 GMT 1
What about Jacko?
I'm sure there was a Cowshed chant: "Jacko's gonna twat ya"
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Post by mosher on Feb 7, 2024 9:32:42 GMT 1
Jepson didn't leave until 1996. Wouldn't fuck with him, Morrison or Bullock This is the correct answer - I'm not having Cowan classed as a hardman. Brilliant player but not considered a hard man. Etienne Verveer wouldn't agree  |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 7, 2024 9:32:43 GMT 1
Martin Mcintosh! Played in 05 so squeezes in.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 7, 2024 9:42:14 GMT 1
This is the correct answer - I'm not having Cowan classed as a hardman. Brilliant player but not considered a hard man. Etienne Verveer wouldn't agree Master of the no touch knockout! |
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 7, 2024 10:41:50 GMT 1
This is the correct answer - I'm not having Cowan classed as a hardman. Brilliant player but not considered a hard man. Etienne Verveer wouldn't agree Cowan never touched him and he went down like a sack of spuds, spineless cheating t**t! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 7, 2024 10:58:08 GMT 1
depends how you define 'hard'.
Is it violent or is it just tough.
If its tough, then Id definitely put Peter Clarke in there.
A rare thing in football that he had the rugby attitude of 'Im really hurt.., but not going to let you know it'
I was right behind the goals in our play off 1st leg at MK Dons in 2012 and near the end of the game he nutted the post in a goalmouth scramble and was knocked spark out. Game carries on as ball was cleared and he came round..got up and carried on, probably with concussion for the remaining few minutes.
Not the health and safety thing to do but summed him up for me. If he'd gone off he'd have missed the 2nd leg and maybe the final, and he wasnt about to have that.
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Post by mosher on Feb 7, 2024 12:38:18 GMT 1
Etienne Verveer wouldn't agree Cowan never touched him and he went down like a sack of spuds, spineless cheating t**t! Yep, I nearly went over the hoardings in the top tier of the Riverside shouting and gesticulating at the soft-arse twat |
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Post by htafcokay on Feb 7, 2024 13:18:07 GMT 1
Jepson was at Burnley, Bury, and Oldham after you, so he's definitely one to consider, even though his best days were behind him. Arrested prior to his football career and allegedly involved in the Heysel disaster. htfcokay has some scanned paper prints I think. Horrible bastard on a football pitch. Jepson served some time on remand for Heysel but was eventually acquitted in 1989. As soon as he was acquitted, John Rudge signed him on professional forms at Port Vale. And it's htafcokay  |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 7, 2024 13:19:04 GMT 1
Sometimes you get footballers who are noted for being hard men, and it gets overlooked just how good they were as footballers. Richard Logan was not one of those. Could throw the ball from one side of the pitch to the fucking moon, but other than that had little in the way of technical ability. He was absolute fucking nails though. Had the heart of a lion. Because he ripped it out of the lion's chest with his bare hands. Was it logan who got send off at Shrewsbury after 30 seconds of coming on as a sub? Peter Ward |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 7, 2024 13:20:43 GMT 1
What about Jacko? I'm sure there was a Cowshed chant: "Jacko's gonna twat ya" Doubt it, it might've meant messing his hair up. |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 7, 2024 13:51:19 GMT 1
depends how you define 'hard'. Is it violent or is it just tough. If its tough, then Id definitely put Peter Clarke in there. A rare thing in football that he had the rugby attitude of 'Im really hurt.., but not going to let you know it' I was right behind the goals in our play off 1st leg at MK Dons in 2012 and near the end of the game he nutted the post in a goalmouth scramble and was knocked spark out. Game carries on as ball was cleared and he came round..got up and carried on, probably with concussion for the remaining few minutes. Not the health and safety thing to do but summed him up for me. If he'd gone off he'd have missed the 2nd leg and maybe the final, and he wasnt about to have that. Most would have said him slapps! But he played after 2005 😁😁 |
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Post by cuz on Feb 7, 2024 14:38:55 GMT 1
Was it logan who got send off at Shrewsbury after 30 seconds of coming on as a sub? Peter Ward Thats him!!! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 7, 2024 15:06:36 GMT 1
depends how you define 'hard'. Is it violent or is it just tough. If its tough, then Id definitely put Peter Clarke in there. A rare thing in football that he had the rugby attitude of 'Im really hurt.., but not going to let you know it' I was right behind the goals in our play off 1st leg at MK Dons in 2012 and near the end of the game he nutted the post in a goalmouth scramble and was knocked spark out. Game carries on as ball was cleared and he came round..got up and carried on, probably with concussion for the remaining few minutes. Not the health and safety thing to do but summed him up for me. If he'd gone off he'd have missed the 2nd leg and maybe the final, and he wasnt about to have that. Most would have said him slapps! But he played after 2005 😁😁 Ah yeah, there is that. |
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Post by tyketaffy on Feb 7, 2024 17:20:48 GMT 1
According to Phil Senior on the and "he Takes That Chance" Podcast Matty Pearson actually growls at opposition players. I know its not in the time frame for this thread but it sums up Pearson perfectly for me, Bully and Pearson are two guys I would want by my side going into a tough pub  There is also the claim by an opposition player in the prem promotion year that Heff told him when he came on as a sub that he was going to break his nose if he went for a header ! |
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There is also the claim by an opposition player in the prem promotion year that Heff told him when he came on as a sub that he was going to break his nose if he went for a header !