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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 18, 2024 11:07:54 GMT 1
All teams do it, but why don’t the authorities bring in some simple rules about the more obvious ones.
Why not allow the Refs to listen in to the physios treating a player who has supposedly gone down with a head injury? Given the concussion protocol we now have, why not say that those players have to leave the pitch and be off for a min of 5 mins while the Doc gives them a quick once over?
Why aren’t players, who are fit and healthy and darting around seconds before, told to use that energy to jog off the pitch when being subbed? If the substitution hasn’t completed within 30 seconds they have to carry on. (and if you want a true penalty, the side loses one of their allocation)
Yesterday was a sober lesson for the authorities on how some sides can throttle the life out of a game. Their players must have spent at least 10 mins on the deck, and how many were subbed as a consequence?
But of course, football authorities don’t want to clamp down on this, it all adds to the theatre and controversy.
It’s such an easy thing to do, so many other sports do timekeeping properly, why does football always think it’s immune to common sense?
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Post by Ibiza Town on Feb 18, 2024 11:12:45 GMT 1
All teams do it, but why don’t the authorities bring in some simple rules about the more obvious ones. Why not allow the Refs to listen in to the physios treating a player who has supposedly gone down with a head injury? Given the concussion protocol we now have, why not say that those players have to leave the pitch and be off for a min of 5 mins while the Doc gives them a quick once over? Why aren’t players, who are fit and healthy and darting around seconds before, told to use that energy to jog off the pitch when being subbed? If the substitution hasn’t completed within 30 seconds they have to carry on. (and if you want a true penalty, the side loses one of their allocation) Yesterday was a sober lesson for the authorities on how some sides can throttle the life out of a game. Their players must have spent at least 10 mins on the deck, and how many were subbed as a consequence? But of course, football authorities don’t want to clamp down on this, it all adds to the theatre and controversy. It’s such an easy thing to do, so many other sports do timekeeping properly, why does football always think it’s immune to common sense? Maybe because those setting the rules are also the enforcers. They're only interested in 'the rules' and their own career positions, they don't really consider what is for the good of the actual game. |
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Post by detox on Feb 18, 2024 11:16:42 GMT 1
All teams do it, but why don’t the authorities bring in some simple rules about the more obvious ones. Why not allow the Refs to listen in to the physios treating a player who has supposedly gone down with a head injury? Given the concussion protocol we now have, why not say that those players have to leave the pitch and be off for a min of 5 mins while the Doc gives them a quick once over? Why aren’t players, who are fit and healthy and darting around seconds before, told to use that energy to jog off the pitch when being subbed? If the substitution hasn’t completed within 30 seconds they have to carry on. (and if you want a true penalty, the side loses one of their allocation) Yesterday was a sober lesson for the authorities on how some sides can throttle the life out of a game. Their players must have spent at least 10 mins on the deck, and how many were subbed as a consequence? But of course, football authorities don’t want to clamp down on this, it all adds to the theatre and controversy. It’s such an easy thing to do, so many other sports do timekeeping properly, why does football always think it’s immune to common sense? Glennon was doing his nut that 1st half when their player was down 2-3 minutes...taken off, then came back on like a spring chicken... All part of the disruptive tactics Hull have perfected, clear and obvious to everyone except the ref. The 2nd half not as bad, maybe something was said at half time ? |
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Post by softboy on Feb 18, 2024 11:49:47 GMT 1
If you look at Plymouth, Hull home (away team) and Sunderland at home (us) there seems a recent trend for officials to be a lot more tolerant with time wasting. Particularly players staying down for a few minutes without the referee even going over to see what the problem is and no medical help needed.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 18, 2024 11:51:49 GMT 1
No doubt that Rosenior did a number on us yesterday particularly in the 1st half.
Well thought out tactics by him and allowed to get away with it by weak officiating.
He started by his pre match comments designed to influence the referee, by calling us “bullies” etc.
If NW had been in charge of us yesterday he would have gone absolutely mental and rightly so.
You may have got 3 points Leroy, but yesterday your team were a disgrace to the spirit of the game.
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Post by Jack on Feb 18, 2024 11:57:19 GMT 1
One rule change I'd like to see for time wasting on a throw-in or free-kick is simply for the ball/possession to be turned over to the opposition. A bit like with a foul throw.
Not quite as easy when time wasting happens on a goal kick but if the ref were able to give the opposition a corner for example I'm sure it would cut it out.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 18, 2024 12:04:48 GMT 1
No doubt that Rosenior did a number on us yesterday particularly in the 1st half. Well thought out tactics by him and allowed to get away with it by weak officiating. He started by his pre match comments designed to influence the referee, by calling us “bullies” etc. If NW had been in charge of us yesterday he would have gone absolutely mental and rightly so. You may have got 3 points Leroy, but yesterday your team were a disgrace to the spirit of the game. Liam - Leroy is his dad  |
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 18, 2024 12:07:00 GMT 1
I would also like to see the 'injured' player having to remain off the field of play for the same duration as the treatment they receive, so you can't spend 5 minutes being treated jog off and be back on the pitch second later running around liek a spring chicken.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 18, 2024 12:11:56 GMT 1
One rule change I'd like to see for time wasting on a throw-in or free-kick is simply for the ball/possession to be turned over to the opposition. A bit like with a foul throw. Not quite as easy when time wasting happens on a goal kick but if the ref were able to give the opposition a corner for example I'm sure it would cut it out. The “foul” throw incident was the biggest example of why that referee was totally weak yesterday ( man or woman, it was weak) This happened right in front of me and the Ref was just a few yards away and allowed play to continue when it was the worst foul throw I’d ever seen. |
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Post by irverino on Feb 18, 2024 12:14:42 GMT 1
No doubt that Rosenior did a number on us yesterday particularly in the 1st half. Well thought out tactics by him and allowed to get away with it by weak officiating. He started by his pre match comments designed to influence the referee, by calling us “bullies” etc. If NW had been in charge of us yesterday he would have gone absolutely mental and rightly so. You may have got 3 points Leroy, but yesterday your team were a disgrace to the spirit of the game. Didn't he say something about the way DM set Town up to 'nullify' them at KC. Came across to me as a bit of tit for tat......Ms Welch didn't help matters, reckon the assessor had words at HT. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Feb 18, 2024 12:50:17 GMT 1
No doubt that Rosenior did a number on us yesterday particularly in the 1st half. Well thought out tactics by him and allowed to get away with it by weak officiating. He started by his pre match comments designed to influence the referee, by calling us “bullies” etc. If NW had been in charge of us yesterday he would have gone absolutely mental and rightly so. You may have got 3 points Leroy, but yesterday your team were a disgrace to the spirit of the game. I agree with all that until the final line. Do you feel similarly angry when Nicholls does it? And NW last year? Which game was it that the ref was so sick of the way Town were wasting time and breaking up the game that he ended up blowing the whistle early (Watford away?) |
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Post by griffa on Feb 18, 2024 13:00:44 GMT 1
All teams do it, but why don’t the authorities bring in some simple rules about the more obvious ones. Why not allow the Refs to listen in to the physios treating a player who has supposedly gone down with a head injury? Given the concussion protocol we now have, why not say that those players have to leave the pitch and be off for a min of 5 mins while the Doc gives them a quick once over? Why aren’t players, who are fit and healthy and darting around seconds before, told to use that energy to jog off the pitch when being subbed? If the substitution hasn’t completed within 30 seconds they have to carry on. (and if you want a true penalty, the side loses one of their allocation) Yesterday was a sober lesson for the authorities on how some sides can throttle the life out of a game. Their players must have spent at least 10 mins on the deck, and how many were subbed as a consequence? But of course, football authorities don’t want to clamp down on this, it all adds to the theatre and controversy. It’s such an easy thing to do, so many other sports do timekeeping properly, why does football always think it’s immune to common sense? It's the scourge of modern football, players challenging for 50/50 balls, going to ground, feigning injury. The head injury rule has added to the opportunity, for players to slow the game down, it was clearly part of Hull's game plan to waste time, to slow the game down, after taking an early lead. Rebecca Welch should warned the goalkeeper & Captain, to quicken the game up. Early season.Referee's were under instruction to book goalkeeper's, who were deemed to be slowing the game down, just as Allsopp, did yesterday - UTT. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 18, 2024 13:01:33 GMT 1
No doubt that Rosenior did a number on us yesterday particularly in the 1st half. Well thought out tactics by him and allowed to get away with it by weak officiating. He started by his pre match comments designed to influence the referee, by calling us “bullies” etc. If NW had been in charge of us yesterday he would have gone absolutely mental and rightly so. You may have got 3 points Leroy, but yesterday your team were a disgrace to the spirit of the game. I agree with all that until the final line. Do you feel similarly angry when Nicholls does it? And NW last year? Which game was it that the ref was so sick of the way Town were wasting time and breaking up the game that he ended up blowing the whistle early (Watford away?) Good point. But there is a massive difference between doing this in the last 10 minutes versus minute 1 of the first half. |
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Post by alfredsterrier on Feb 18, 2024 13:14:08 GMT 1
It’s never going to change.
It’s just called a tactical foul and has been excepted.
It’s just cheating.
Maybe they should do what they do in rugby league I think.
Just carry on with the game and have the physio on while the game carries on.
No advantage to trying to stop the game.
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Post by markthehorn on Feb 18, 2024 13:18:23 GMT 1
They had loads of rules to combat time wasting at the start of the season.
Do they still add on lots of injury time or book players for it as much as they said they were going to?
Or another one of those ideas that soon get forgotten about after a while..
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Post by pinstripe on Feb 18, 2024 13:26:06 GMT 1
You guys are right, Huddersfield have never been accused of time wasting on the front foot 🙄 I sense there may be a great cure all to this, perhaps next time we should play better than letting 85 minutes go by in a game without scoring.
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Post by htafcokay on Feb 18, 2024 13:34:13 GMT 1
We literally went a whole season doing this, just two years ago.
It was anti-football then and it's anti-football now.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 18, 2024 14:03:00 GMT 1
You guys are right, Huddersfield have never been accused of time wasting on the front foot 🙄 I sense there may be a great cure all to this, perhaps next time we should play better than letting 85 minutes go by in a game without scoring. Just for clarity, my OP wasn’t about yesterday, it was a general post, and I also get pissed off when we do it. It’s cheating the supporters out of a contest. The victors will always gloss over it and say meh, but my point was about what the authorities might do to discourage it. The addition of real injury time doesn’t seem to have had as big an impact , because it’s not really about time, it’s about breaking up the momentum of the game. It’s one of the things that will probably kill my enjoyment of the game in the next few yrs. |
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Post by stevvy on Feb 18, 2024 14:05:08 GMT 1
One rule change I'd like to see for time wasting on a throw-in or free-kick is simply for the ball/possession to be turned over to the opposition. A bit like with a foul throw. Not quite as easy when time wasting happens on a goal kick but if the ref were able to give the opposition a corner for example I'm sure it would cut it out. You know what, I actually quite like that idea. There's some shit ideas that get floated around, but that's a good one I think |
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Post by htfctx on Feb 18, 2024 15:28:20 GMT 1
Just bring in a game clock. Then all the shithousery stops, when the clock stops.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 18, 2024 15:35:29 GMT 1
Just bring in a game clock. Then all the shithousery stops, when the clock stops. I’d have a clock to time things like throw ins. With multi ball there’s no excuse for those to be taken within 15 seconds, no more than 20 seconds for a GK. With all the money in the game this could be introduced in all 4 divisions, but there will be pressure from bigger clubs to avoid this happening as they’re the ones that will benefit most from the ability to waste time. I’d also be handing out more cards for those fouls the pundits class as ‘good’, the ones that break up play. If football weren’t full of cheating bastards, none of this would be needed of course… |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 18, 2024 15:44:27 GMT 1
We literally went a whole season doing this, just two years ago. It was anti-football then and it's anti-football now. 4 years ago. You could set your clock by the feigning injuries under the 2 Rons. |
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Post by htafcokay on Feb 18, 2024 15:47:05 GMT 1
We literally went a whole season doing this, just two years ago. It was anti-football then and it's anti-football now. 4 years ago. You could set your clock by the feigning injuries under the 2 Rons. That's why we were always the late result. |
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Post by impact on Feb 18, 2024 15:48:34 GMT 1
The simple answer is to stop the clock. The next best answer is for refs to do their job and stop their own watch every time there's an injury, goal, sub and a clear slowing down of the game.
You can accept refs get split second decisions wrong. You can't accept them not doing their job like yesterday. There were 7 mins of injuries 1st half and she blew up before that 7 mins despite warning them about time wasting. 4 minutes in the 2nd half was a disgrace. It would have been poor before, with the new guidelines it is pure incompetence.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 18, 2024 15:52:53 GMT 1
It's ok moaning about the side in the lead taking ages over throw ins but I would put money on us taking longer with plenty of ours yesterday. Whoever is taking it never seems to know what to do and eventually just resorts to throwing it long.
There was one which took an age and I thought the ref was actually going to penalise us for it
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Post by drumriggend on Feb 18, 2024 15:53:03 GMT 1
Don’t understand hulls approach to the game at all..
They looked technically superior to us man for man..
And I had the feeling that they could have beaten us comfortably if they had gone for us..
Couldn’t fault our lad’s application and endeavour ..
Why they foooked about,dived,feigned injury and time wasted for 80 minutes trying to hold on to a 1 goal lead is beyond me🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Just go win the game..
Ffs 🤬🤬
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Feb 18, 2024 16:58:01 GMT 1
Hull didn't to resort to those tactics, there are not a bad side at all but we deserved a point
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Post by utttrooper on Feb 18, 2024 17:02:00 GMT 1
The simple answer is to stop the clock. The next best answer is for refs to do their job and stop their own watch every time there's an injury, goal, sub and a clear slowing down of the game. You can accept refs get split second decisions wrong. You can't accept them not doing their job like yesterday. There were 7 mins of injuries 1st half and she blew up before that 7 mins despite warning them about time wasting. 4 minutes in the 2nd half was a disgrace. It would have been poor before, with the new guidelines it is pure incompetence. The keeper should have been booked in the first half and wasted 4 minutes on his own. When you take all the feigning injury into account than it should have been at least 8 plus stoppages from added time |
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Post by houllierspal on Feb 18, 2024 19:02:13 GMT 1
Htfctx - “Just bring in a game clock. Then all the shithousery stops, when the clock stops.”
Good idea but with yesterday, we would still be there, it took ‘professionalism’ to another level
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Post by shawsie on Feb 18, 2024 20:13:22 GMT 1
Not sure we can really point fingers.....
Nicholls is a king of shithousery.
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