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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2024 14:03:51 GMT 1
Yup. Its an undeniable fact. Its been terrible for us fans hasnt it. people should be happy to go down. We'd win more games in league 1. We said very similar about the championship when we were under Siewert. Suppose the truth is if we went down , even if they kept the prices the same as they are now, a lot of current SC holders wouldn't renew, just because weve gone down. So doubt we'd be one of the 'monied' clubs in terms of what we generate ourselves even in league 1. What money Nagle puts in, or is allowed to put in under FFP, would make a bigger difference though ,as it did when Hoyle did the same in league 1. Id rather not think about being in league 1 though. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 19, 2024 14:07:36 GMT 1
As it is families which are mostly struggling why not do a cheap family ticket for parents and kids in a designated area of the ground?, after all it is these kids who are the future supporters of the club. My lad goes to All Saints and he knows only 1 Town season ticket holder, he says all his mates are Liverpool/Man U fans, says it all really. Do you mean if prices go up in other areas and for other criteria's? How low do you go with prices? There's regularly offers on for odd games in the Swimming pool stand. A season tickets this season, for a family of 2 under 11's and 2 adults is less than £600. Its very good value already. Hoping that we can continue to offer affordable prices for everyone but if people aren't coming along at the price we've got now, they're never going to buy one. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2024 14:09:52 GMT 1
Well only because hes prepared to put £X millions in to make up for that. I just dont think its unfair of him to expect the clubs supporters to do their bit and pay something just a little more like the going rate for football at this level, even if it only works out at a pound a week more. Some seem to be coughing up their lungs at the very suggestion..which takes me back to the comedy sketch about tight Yorkshiremen!  I’m curious as to what you think a fair price for a season card would be next season Capt? I dont think they can increase it too quickly whatever they decide. I think they should have different prices for different areas. Seats with the best views ( middle sections of side stands ) then £350 ,,pretty much what we were paying before Hoyle reduced it and still well below the norm for this level... the seats with poorer views £300 so people finding it difficult arent going to be priced out. usual age reductions within that. Think that would be a fair rise for next season. |
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Post by rab030 on Mar 19, 2024 14:15:12 GMT 1
Too many fans expect Championship football at discounted/subsidised rates - its not sustainable IMO.
I'm not suggesting we should price people out but at the same time we need to be realistic and look at what other clubs charge.
£25 a game for a full paying adult is still good value, but would mean that you would pay £575 to watch every game.
Discounted to say £350 for a season ticket works out at £15 per game - do we really think that's unreasonable?
I would also give every adult season ticket holder two junior passes, that allows them to bring kids for say £5 per game (u12) and £10 (u18) without having to pay upfront.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Mar 19, 2024 14:30:28 GMT 1
Do yo remember about 10 or so years ago each book would have a handful of vouchers called "friend for a fiver"?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 19, 2024 14:32:26 GMT 1
£249 for the North stand lower.
A discounted family ticket for the North stand upper.
£299 for Kilner and South stand.
£329 Riverside lower.
£349 for Riverside upper.
Better seats, higher price. Sounds reasonable to me.
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Post by Carlito Brigante on Mar 19, 2024 14:37:14 GMT 1
£249 for the North stand lower. A discounted family ticket for the North stand upper. £299 for Kilner and South stand. £329 Riverside lower. £349 for Riverside upper. Better seats, higher price. Sounds reasonable to me. How are Riverside Lower seats better than Kilner ones? |
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Post by benhomly on Mar 19, 2024 14:43:30 GMT 1
This threads like the script from a comedy sketch show! The tight Yorkshiremen sketch! "Well I love that club...Ive loved them since I can remember, like me dad did and his dad before him. I bleed blue and white stripes ,me! I dont mind paying t' equivalent of a pint of beer and a packet of crisps each week to watch 'em...thats fair...but if they ask me to pay t' equivalent of a pint of beer and TWO packets of crisps a week...thats bloody obscene , the money grabbing bastards!! I dont care if it's still really cheap compared to everyone else, they can forget that! Dont they know there's a financial crisis on?!!" You're making light of what to many people is very relevant. Stuff like council tax, water rates, car insurance etc has been going up much faster than inflation for many years so if people are faced with a 25%+ (possibly even 50%) increase in their season tickets they'll have a very hard decision to make. It's not their fault they've been blessed (?!) with cheap prices for the last 10 years or so and won't have been putting the £200+ per season they've been saving in an emergency inflation busting price hike fund that's for sure. You can blame your beloved Hoyle for that, he should have just stuck to that 1 season £100 ticket and made it perfectly clear that prices would return to normal after that. Thankfully it doesn't affect me but if I had to choose between a family holiday or renewing my season tickets I certainly wouldn't be forgoing my 2 weeks in the sun to invest my time and money watching the shite that has been served up at this poorly run club for years and years (barring the freak promotion season and even freakier first season in the PL). We're all entitled to our opinions of course but I just can't see how anyone can actually enjoy year after year of almost constant relegation battles and falling at the first hurdle in cup competitions. It's just so bloody tedious. I'll almost certainly renew but out of our group of 5 season ticket holders at least 1 is expressing doubts and one more barely comes to 50% of the games anyway so I would guess may not renew. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 19, 2024 14:55:15 GMT 1
£249 for the North stand lower. A discounted family ticket for the North stand upper. £299 for Kilner and South stand. £329 Riverside lower. £349 for Riverside upper. Better seats, higher price. Sounds reasonable to me. How are Riverside Lower seats better than Kilner ones? Up until 2016 the Riverside lower was always priced higher than the Kilner. Prices the season before they were discounted. www.htafc.com/news/2015/june/201516-season-cards-on-sale/ |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Mar 19, 2024 14:55:25 GMT 1
As it is families which are mostly struggling why not do a cheap family ticket for parents and kids in a designated area of the ground?, after all it is these kids who are the future supporters of the club. My lad goes to All Saints and he knows only 1 Town season ticket holder, he says all his mates are Liverpool/Man U fans, says it all really. Do you mean if prices go up in other areas and for other criteria's? How low do you go with prices? There's regularly offers on for odd games in the Swimming pool stand. A season tickets this season, for a family of 2 under 11's and 2 adults is less than £600. Its very good value already. Hoping that we can continue to offer affordable prices for everyone but if people aren't coming along at the price we've got now, they're never going to buy one. Those prices should also be available for families with older kids still in school, it doesn’t make sense to stop at 11, just when they’ve got to secondary school. Parents don’t magically get an increase in their income when a kid turns 11, it doesn’t make sense to charge more at that age. Continuing to attend from 11 onwards without having to worry about a greater cost, could also encourage their new secondary school friends to come along to watch Town. People too often forget that the youth are the future of this club, there should be permanent very low prices for them, even free. We need all those empty seats filling up. They’ll also spend some money on food and drinks, so there’s no real cost to filling those empty seats up with youngsters. Treat them with a bit more thought, respect and kindness rather than just seeing them as just another category of consumers to extract and maximise revenue from, and the club will be rewarded in the long term with even more faithful fans willing to pay their way and support the next generation too. |
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Post by ambryboy on Mar 19, 2024 15:01:05 GMT 1
I’m curious as to what you think a fair price for a season card would be next season Capt? I dont think they can increase it too quickly whatever they decide. I think they should have different prices for different areas. Seats with the best views ( middle sections of side stands ) then £350 ,,pretty much what we were paying before Hoyle reduced it and still well below the norm for this level... the seats with poorer views £300 so people finding it difficult arent going to be priced out. usual age reductions within that. Think that would be a fair rise for next season. I presume these are the ones with the clearest view of the pitch  |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Mar 19, 2024 15:03:16 GMT 1
A smattering of 'Quid for a kid' along with 'Friend for a fiver' deals throughout next season might help sweeten the inevitable rise in ticket prices.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 19, 2024 15:06:19 GMT 1
I dont think they can increase it too quickly whatever they decide. I think they should have different prices for different areas. Seats with the best views ( middle sections of side stands ) then £350 ,,pretty much what we were paying before Hoyle reduced it and still well below the norm for this level... the seats with poorer views £300 so people finding it difficult arent going to be priced out. usual age reductions within that. Think that would be a fair rise for next season. I presume these are the ones with the clearest view of the pitch Maybe they attract a better clientele. |
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 19, 2024 15:36:43 GMT 1
The club doesn’t have a problem with a lack of revenue, it has a problem with managing its funds. Poor footballing decisions on players and managers over a long period have cost us far greater than affordable season tickets. The club can put the prices up, that’s their choice, but they are hastily under estimating the impact on the numbers that will renew and I’m fairly sure there won’t be any new uptakes. Simple, affordable pricing. It works. I'd disagree with the first part of this Ben. I don't think the club makes anywhere near enough revenue. I would say we're at least £5m short of what we need to make every year and a good £15-20m a year to make us consistently competitive. I agree we do have a problem managing the funds we have though. We have done since the PL year when we screwed up the budgets and came back down with even more debt than when we went up and virtually nothing in the bank. Hopefully under new ownership and leadership we can generate more revenue and manage the budgets better over the long term. They do need to be careful how much they put prices up. If we're relegated I don' think they can. If we manage to stay up, then it needs to be a sensible increase. The vast majority are feeling the squeeze financially and may not be able to afford too much of an increase. If they go up too much, I may just have to buy one for my son so he can go with him mates and then just not get one myself and go on the odd occasion. You are correct though that simple affordable pricing works at attracting a large number of season ticket sales. Town have traditionally under Hoyle traded very well and it’s an area that we’ve neglected badly in recent years. We made up shortfalls by trading well and unlike other clubs, didn’t spend beyond our means which I still want us to maintain. You’re right, we don’t have enough revenue but they’ll have less if they jack the prices up and introduce a divisive category system. Hoyle got it right when he abandoned the ludicrous category and high priced system that that we had pre 2016 and simplified an affordable way to get more fans in the stadium thus creating a better vibe and atmosphere on match days. Adopting any other method would reduce football on match days, how are you going to increase your revenue streams on your stadium that you’ve newly invested in? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2024 15:40:33 GMT 1
This threads like the script from a comedy sketch show! The tight Yorkshiremen sketch! "Well I love that club...Ive loved them since I can remember, like me dad did and his dad before him. I bleed blue and white stripes ,me! I dont mind paying t' equivalent of a pint of beer and a packet of crisps each week to watch 'em...thats fair...but if they ask me to pay t' equivalent of a pint of beer and TWO packets of crisps a week...thats bloody obscene , the money grabbing bastards!! I dont care if it's still really cheap compared to everyone else, they can forget that! Dont they know there's a financial crisis on?!!" You're making light of what to many people is very relevant. Stuff like council tax, water rates, car insurance etc has been going up much faster than inflation for many years so if people are faced with a 25%+ (possibly even 50%) increase in their season tickets they'll have a very hard decision to make. It's not their fault they've been blessed (?!) with cheap prices for the last 10 years or so and won't have been putting the £200+ per season they've been saving in an emergency inflation busting price hike fund that's for sure. You can blame your beloved Hoyle for that, he should have just stuck to that 1 season £100 ticket and made it perfectly clear that prices would return to normal after that. Thankfully it doesn't affect me but if I had to choose between a family holiday or renewing my season tickets I certainly wouldn't be forgoing my 2 weeks in the sun to invest my time and money watching the shite that has been served up at this poorly run club for years and years (barring the freak promotion season and even freakier first season in the PL). We're all entitled to our opinions of course but I just can't see how anyone can actually enjoy year after year of almost constant relegation battles and falling at the first hurdle in cup competitions. It's just so bloody tedious. I'll almost certainly renew but out of our group of 5 season ticket holders at least 1 is expressing doubts and one more barely comes to 50% of the games anyway so I would guess may not renew. If they charge £350 then the price hasnt gone up since before Hoyle first reduced them..must be ten years ago maybe? peoples wages have though..in fact weve just been having record wage inflation. Yes other things in life have gone up but can you expect football to not do? You should only be paying what you were many years ago? We arent talking about choosing between a family holiday or renewing...thats just such an exaggeration.....a £50 increase is the same as the cost of buying half a pint each game. A £100 increase, one extra pint a game. Youre moaning about watching a struggling side but dont want to pay so we arent the second lowest income club in the division?? If we have the second lowest income, why do people expect to not struggle?? |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 19, 2024 16:01:22 GMT 1
Do yo remember about 10 or so years ago each book would have a handful of vouchers called "friend for a fiver"? Should bring those back too. I remember them. Lost all my friends after using them. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 19, 2024 16:05:22 GMT 1
You're making light of what to many people is very relevant. Stuff like council tax, water rates, car insurance etc has been going up much faster than inflation for many years so if people are faced with a 25%+ (possibly even 50%) increase in their season tickets they'll have a very hard decision to make. It's not their fault they've been blessed (?!) with cheap prices for the last 10 years or so and won't have been putting the £200+ per season they've been saving in an emergency inflation busting price hike fund that's for sure. You can blame your beloved Hoyle for that, he should have just stuck to that 1 season £100 ticket and made it perfectly clear that prices would return to normal after that. Thankfully it doesn't affect me but if I had to choose between a family holiday or renewing my season tickets I certainly wouldn't be forgoing my 2 weeks in the sun to invest my time and money watching the shite that has been served up at this poorly run club for years and years (barring the freak promotion season and even freakier first season in the PL). We're all entitled to our opinions of course but I just can't see how anyone can actually enjoy year after year of almost constant relegation battles and falling at the first hurdle in cup competitions. It's just so bloody tedious. I'll almost certainly renew but out of our group of 5 season ticket holders at least 1 is expressing doubts and one more barely comes to 50% of the games anyway so I would guess may not renew. peoples wages have though..in fact weve just been having record wage inflation. Yes other things in life have gone up but can you expect football to not do? You should only be paying what you were many years ago? We arent talking about choosing between a family holiday or renewing...thats just such an exaggeration.....a £50 increase is the same as the cost of buying half a pint each game. A £100 increase, one extra pint a game. Youre moaning about watching a struggling side but dont want to pay so we arent the second lowest income club in the division?? If we have the second lowest income, why do people expect to not struggle?? Hoyle reduced them in 2016. |
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Post by mosher on Mar 19, 2024 16:15:09 GMT 1
Do yo remember about 10 or so years ago each book would have a handful of vouchers called "friend for a fiver"? Should bring those back too. Yep. Used every one and gained 5 new ST holders over two seasons. Sadly only 2 of them are current holders now, although one is because they moved to NZ.** ** no his dad has never been in hospital and he's never needed a donation to buy a flight there |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2024 16:26:02 GMT 1
If they charge £350 then the price hasnt gone up since before Hoyle first reduced them..must be ten years ago maybe?peoples wages have though..in fact weve just been having record wage inflation. Yes other things in life have gone up but can you expect football to not do? You should only be paying what you were many years ago? We arent talking about choosing between a family holiday or renewing...thats just such an exaggeration.....a £50 increase is the same as the cost of buying half a pint each game. A £100 increase, one extra pint a game. Youre moaning about watching a struggling side but dont want to pay so we arent the second lowest income club in the division?? If we have the second lowest income, why do people expect to not struggle?? Hoyle reduced them in 2016. Well before he did then, id imagine if you'd told everyone back then that they'd still be paying the same price in 8 years time for their SC in the championship , I doubt there'd have been a single person complaining. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Mar 19, 2024 16:36:20 GMT 1
You're making light of what to many people is very relevant. Stuff like council tax, water rates, car insurance etc has been going up much faster than inflation for many years so if people are faced with a 25%+ (possibly even 50%) increase in their season tickets they'll have a very hard decision to make. It's not their fault they've been blessed (?!) with cheap prices for the last 10 years or so and won't have been putting the £200+ per season they've been saving in an emergency inflation busting price hike fund that's for sure. You can blame your beloved Hoyle for that, he should have just stuck to that 1 season £100 ticket and made it perfectly clear that prices would return to normal after that. Thankfully it doesn't affect me but if I had to choose between a family holiday or renewing my season tickets I certainly wouldn't be forgoing my 2 weeks in the sun to invest my time and money watching the shite that has been served up at this poorly run club for years and years (barring the freak promotion season and even freakier first season in the PL). We're all entitled to our opinions of course but I just can't see how anyone can actually enjoy year after year of almost constant relegation battles and falling at the first hurdle in cup competitions. It's just so bloody tedious. I'll almost certainly renew but out of our group of 5 season ticket holders at least 1 is expressing doubts and one more barely comes to 50% of the games anyway so I would guess may not renew. If they charge £350 then the price hasnt gone up since before Hoyle first reduced them..must be ten years ago maybe? peoples wages have though..in fact weve just been having record wage inflation. Yes other things in life have gone up but can you expect football to not do? You should only be paying what you were many years ago? We arent talking about choosing between a family holiday or renewing...thats just such an exaggeration.....a £50 increase is the same as the cost of buying half a pint each game. A £100 increase, one extra pint a game. Youre moaning about watching a struggling side but dont want to pay so we arent the second lowest income club in the division?? If we have the second lowest income, why do people expect to not struggle?? With all due respect, you do seem to be a bit out of touch, or dismissive, of how people are struggling with the cost of living. Real inflation which people experience is far higher than the official “basket of items” rate. If non-discretionary items such as running a car to get to work, basic food staples, insurance, etc go through the roof then there can be beggar all left for discretionary spending. There’s a lot of demand for people’s discretionary money these days, far more than in the “old days”. Paying more money to watch an increasingly worse Town “product” will not appeal, or be affordable, for many people. It’s totally irrelevant to them that a season ticket cost more a few years ago. Regardless, you come across as thinking that because you can / want to pay more, then others can afford it too; well, they can’t or they won’t. More broadly, the reality is the club is a business and the economics of supply and demand apply to it. If it has a poor “product” which is priced too highly, then fewer people will buy it. Price it properly and entice people with discounts etc then the seats will be full. |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 19, 2024 16:47:25 GMT 1
As it is families which are mostly struggling why not do a cheap family ticket for parents and kids in a designated area of the ground?, after all it is these kids who are the future supporters of the club. My lad goes to All Saints and he knows only 1 Town season ticket holder, he says all his mates are Liverpool/Man U fans, says it all really. Do you mean if prices go up in other areas and for other criteria's? How low do you go with prices? There's regularly offers on for odd games in the Swimming pool stand. A season tickets this season, for a family of 2 under 11's and 2 adults is less than £600. Its very good value already. Hoping that we can continue to offer affordable prices for everyone but if people aren't coming along at the price we've got now, they're never going to buy one. 249 is very low and think everyone knows that, 350 would be 15 a game and if a holder attends most games can't grumble at that, like you say the adults and under 12s this season was good value, but there is quite a jump in the 12 to 18 category. A big jump in price rises across the board could out price families and the future young fans, just think they ought to consider this when they are sorting the new pricedition strupture. Schools get tickets for FML and other organisations I believe they could keep that for next season and maybe a section of the upper?, it used to be family stand but it seem to fall away. Maybe a price for each stand would be a good thing but the club will never please everyone if they are revamping the prices. |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 19, 2024 16:49:03 GMT 1
Do yo remember about 10 or so years ago each book would have a handful of vouchers called "friend for a fiver"? Should bring those back too. Should definitely do that, or something along those lines.... |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2024 17:21:00 GMT 1
If they charge £350 then the price hasnt gone up since before Hoyle first reduced them..must be ten years ago maybe? peoples wages have though..in fact weve just been having record wage inflation. Yes other things in life have gone up but can you expect football to not do? You should only be paying what you were many years ago? We arent talking about choosing between a family holiday or renewing...thats just such an exaggeration.....a £50 increase is the same as the cost of buying half a pint each game. A £100 increase, one extra pint a game. Youre moaning about watching a struggling side but dont want to pay so we arent the second lowest income club in the division?? If we have the second lowest income, why do people expect to not struggle?? With all due respect, you do seem to be a bit out of touch, or dismissive, of how people are struggling with the cost of living. Real inflation which people experience is far higher than the official “basket of items” rate. If non-discretionary items such as running a car to get to work, basic food staples, insurance, etc go through the roof then there can be beggar all left for discretionary spending. There’s a lot of demand for people’s discretionary money these days, far more than in the “old days”. Paying more money to watch an increasingly worse Town “product” will not appeal, or be affordable, for many people. It’s totally irrelevant to them that a season ticket cost more a few years ago. Regardless, you come across as thinking that because you can / want to pay more, then others can afford it too; well, they can’t or they won’t. More broadly, the reality is the club is a business and the economics of supply and demand apply to it. If it has a poor “product” which is priced too highly, then fewer people will buy it. Price it properly and entice people with discounts etc then the seats will be full. You cant price your product aimed at the very poorest who cant afford any kind of rise, even a rise that amounts to the cost of a packet of crisps per week, when its a tiny percentage of your customers that are in that position. It's just unrealistic for a business to do that and as you say , it's a business. Id like to see us offer seats that are still more affordable and Im sure we will, but why is huddersfield this special case where the fans will only attend if we're paying half the going rate and the idea we'll be asked to pay what we were paying 8 years ago and still less than everyone else is unacceptable?? And then people moan that the products not great! Why should it be when our income is so low? Are Rotherham fans moaning that they should be doing much better in the championship? I doubt it really..they probably accept that their income is the lowest in the division so expect to struggle..but Huddersfield, whos income is probably next smallest ..their fans expect to be much higher up? Why? |
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Post by m62terrier on Mar 19, 2024 17:28:59 GMT 1
As it is families which are mostly struggling why not do a cheap family ticket for parents and kids in a designated area of the ground?, after all it is these kids who are the future supporters of the club. My lad goes to All Saints and he knows only 1 Town season ticket holder, he says all his mates are Liverpool/Man U fans, says it all really. Getting kids into the stadium is probably the easy bit. The hard bit is keeping them interested/entertained. I don't really blame kids for supporting Liverpool/City/Chelsea etc, what enjoyment would they get from going to watch Town every other week. I don't know how you solve that though because having them in the stadium whilst the product on the pitch is garbage is not going to help. Strangely if we went down and were winning more often (easier said than done I know), that would probably be a more attractive proposition for kids watching, than a team which constantly struggles. You watch the Premier League, and then watch us and it feels light years difference at times rather than 1 division. |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 19, 2024 17:42:54 GMT 1
As it is families which are mostly struggling why not do a cheap family ticket for parents and kids in a designated area of the ground?, after all it is these kids who are the future supporters of the club. My lad goes to All Saints and he knows only 1 Town season ticket holder, he says all his mates are Liverpool/Man U fans, says it all really. Getting kids into the stadium is probably the easy bit. The hard bit is keeping them interested/entertained. I don't really blame kids for supporting Liverpool/City/Chelsea etc, what enjoyment would they get from going to watch Town every other week. I don't know how you solve that though because having them in the stadium whilst the product on the pitch is garbage is not going to help. Strangely if we went down and were winning more often (easier said than done I know), that would probably be a more attractive proposition for kids watching, than a team which constantly struggles. You watch the Premier League, and then watch us and it feels light years difference at times rather than 1 division. Noticed a lot kids seem to be constantly on their phones!!. My lad prefers rugby now and plays that on a saturday, he watches giants with his grandparents, he's had 5 Town season tickets just ain't interested anymore!!. They bored him into submission no doubt. |
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Post by monkbar on Mar 19, 2024 17:44:54 GMT 1
With all due respect, you do seem to be a bit out of touch, or dismissive, of how people are struggling with the cost of living. Real inflation which people experience is far higher than the official “basket of items” rate. If non-discretionary items such as running a car to get to work, basic food staples, insurance, etc go through the roof then there can be beggar all left for discretionary spending. There’s a lot of demand for people’s discretionary money these days, far more than in the “old days”. Paying more money to watch an increasingly worse Town “product” will not appeal, or be affordable, for many people. It’s totally irrelevant to them that a season ticket cost more a few years ago. Regardless, you come across as thinking that because you can / want to pay more, then others can afford it too; well, they can’t or they won’t. More broadly, the reality is the club is a business and the economics of supply and demand apply to it. If it has a poor “product” which is priced too highly, then fewer people will buy it. Price it properly and entice people with discounts etc then the seats will be full. You cant price your product aimed at the very poorest who cant afford any kind of rise, even a rise that amounts to the cost of a packet of crisps per week, when its a tiny percentage of your customers that are in that position. It's just unrealistic for a business to do that and as you say , it's a business. Id like to see us offer seats that are still more affordable and Im sure we will, but why is huddersfield this special case where the fans will only attend if we're paying half the going rate and the idea we'll be asked to pay what we were paying 8 years ago and still less than everyone else is unacceptable?? And then people moan that the products not great! Why should it be when our income is so low? Are Rotherham fans moaning that they should be doing much better in the championship? I doubt it really..they probably accept that their income is the lowest in the division so expect to struggle..but Huddersfield, whos income is probably next smallest ..their fans expect to be much higher up? Why? Because we've become accustomed to those cheap prices under Hoyle. That and the fact Town fans have always thought they should be doing better. Most fans are the same tbf. I think if we go down and prices go up we'll be well into single thousand figures of STs. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2024 17:51:37 GMT 1
You cant price your product aimed at the very poorest who cant afford any kind of rise, even a rise that amounts to the cost of a packet of crisps per week, when its a tiny percentage of your customers that are in that position. It's just unrealistic for a business to do that and as you say , it's a business. Id like to see us offer seats that are still more affordable and Im sure we will, but why is huddersfield this special case where the fans will only attend if we're paying half the going rate and the idea we'll be asked to pay what we were paying 8 years ago and still less than everyone else is unacceptable?? And then people moan that the products not great! Why should it be when our income is so low? Are Rotherham fans moaning that they should be doing much better in the championship? I doubt it really..they probably accept that their income is the lowest in the division so expect to struggle..but Huddersfield, whos income is probably next smallest ..their fans expect to be much higher up? Why? Because we've become accustomed to those cheap prices under Hoyle. That and the fact Town fans have always thought they should be doing better. Most fans are the same tbf. I think if we go down and prices go up we'll be well into single thousand figures of STs. Agree. We've become very used to what we pay now. It's not going to be easy weaning everyone off it...especially when it follows two seasons of struggle. If we go down then they might have to delay it a year. I always thought it would be practically the first thing any new owner would look at whoever that turned out to be. |
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Post by monkbar on Mar 19, 2024 18:09:56 GMT 1
Because we've become accustomed to those cheap prices under Hoyle. That and the fact Town fans have always thought they should be doing better. Most fans are the same tbf. I think if we go down and prices go up we'll be well into single thousand figures of STs. Agree. We've become very used to what we pay now. It's not going to be easy weaning everyone off it...especially when it follows two seasons of struggle. If we go down then they might have to delay it a year. I always thought it would be practically the first thing any new owner would look at whoever that turned out to be. I think the lower down the pyramid you go the more STs become a greater % of income. Will be interesting to see what happens if we do go down. If prices go up by 100 quid a ticket and we have 10000 ST holders say, that's only a million quid. We spent more than that in Jan on a striker who doesn't like being touched by defenders. |
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 19, 2024 18:59:26 GMT 1
This threads like the script from a comedy sketch show! The tight Yorkshiremen sketch! "Well I love that club...Ive loved them since I can remember, like me dad did and his dad before him. I bleed blue and white stripes ,me! I dont mind paying t' equivalent of a pint of beer and a packet of crisps each week to watch 'em...thats fair...but if they ask me to pay t' equivalent of a pint of beer and TWO packets of crisps a week...thats bloody obscene , the money grabbing bastards!! I dont care if it's still really cheap compared to everyone else, they can forget that! Dont they know there's a financial crisis on?!!" You're making light of what to many people is very relevant. The other side of what Slapps never seems to grasp is the fact that higher prices as far as I can see gives you no better guarantees to success, I’m yet to see any evidence to support the correlation with higher prices = more success. Higher revenue streams, yes. The two areas that give clubs better revenue streams (aside from TV money) is commercial and player trading. Bristol City for example have ridiculously high commercial revenue (I think it’s about £18m?!). Towns isn’t even close to that. Higher prices will reduce the amount of fans that go in that stadium, that’s a fact. It just will. Even a slightly increase is the difference between a few hundred grand. It’s a pittance to the club. They need to improve their commercials and player trading, don’t punish the fans. It’ll be back to the Chris Powell days with no bastard in the stadium, an even worse atmosphere and for more money than it’s worth. The ATT was last Thursday and pricing was on the agenda. I’ll be intrigued to see those minutes when they come out. |
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Post by swam4mwg on Mar 19, 2024 19:03:48 GMT 1
I paid £540 for my season ticket in the Riverside Upper in 2015/16. I haven't paid more than £250 since then. That was under Dean Hoyle's reign. It will be interesting to see what happens now, with Town having one foot in League One and under the American regime. Also the mood amongst fans isn't great, compared to the Warnock factor at the start of the season.
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