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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 16:04:49 GMT 1
You obviously benefitted from the Price Freeze. Not all of us did. In fact, I paid over 300 quid for my ticket last season as I didn't renew until late on. unless you are in the upper tier and dont want to pay £370 ? with this range you could pay the same next year as you did this year with I am convinced a much better experience on and off the pitch. yes I had price freeze. Because what I've witnessed since then, apart from about six weeks under Neil Warnock, has been utter shite. The fact that you're convinced we'll be much better next season makes me even less convinced. I think you talk constant rubbish, and if you're not a club employee then you're a very weird individual that likes to pretend he's in the know. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Mar 26, 2024 16:12:14 GMT 1
When referencing the frozen £249 tickets as a stick to beat the people who want continued affordable pricing with - it should be noted that they weren't £249 for truly altruistic reasons. They were £249 because the club asked supporters to keep the 2020/21 season ticket money (albeit with a crappy online feed of the games thrown in). That really is quite an important factor in why the tickets have been £249 for 3 years.
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Post by royrace on Mar 26, 2024 16:12:51 GMT 1
Mars Bars used to be much bigger years ago! Now we pay more for a much smaller product..Just saying.  I believe the term for this is ‘Shrinkflation’. In the hope that either/or Smithers/Nagle read this, I’m going to repeat a couple of points I’ve made previously: Tiered pricing in a (relatively) modern stadium is bullshit. The days of paying a premium to sit down, as opposed to standing on an (often open) terrace are long gone. One of Hoyle’s better ideas was to recognise this and price attendance accordingly - all seats are effectively the same. The one caveat to this is the Shit Stand Lower at the North end, which is still temporary seating. This area could easily be used for pay on entry and/or any other special offers. Anyone buying a football club nowadays should be willing and able to fund it out of their own pocket. Clearly maximising revenue is more beneficial all round, but if your owner’s brassic, a la Potless, then it’ll all turn to shit pretty quickly. Clearly the owners at City, Newcastle, United, Chelsea etc haven’t bought in just to piss about at the bottom of the league, they’re there to win stuff and grow their ‘brand’. In Town’s case, Nagle will need to invest in an attempt to get into the Premier League (with commensurate cash windfall), then invest again to stay there, all whilst trying to increase revenue to help sustain the new status. Ultimately though, Nagle has to be prepared to fund his indulgence and an extra £500k on STs isn’t worth a fart in comparison. To me, Hoyle’s idea of realistic pricing to maximise sales makes more sense. As long as what’s going on on the field is entertaining the concessions etc revenues will take care of themselves. It’s up to Nagle now to appoint someone that can successfully sell Huddersfield Town as a brand in all the places that that it currently isn’t, in order to bring in the missing £millions. Re tiered pricing I think it's a good way to increase revenue without pricing anyone out. There are no terrible views but obviously it's a much better view top middle than it is bottom corner and the price is the same. Also the concourse in the river side is nicer I seem to remember than the kilner bank. Then you have the north end and particularly the temp seating which should obviously be way cheaper and probably given away to kids. Make it cheap in the south end too to try to get out full and improve the atmosphere. I can't think of any other event where you pay the same regardless of where you sit, when some seats are clearly way more desirable than others. I can see it will annoy those in the good seats if they have to pay a little more but at least they will have the option to move if they object to the price or can't afford it. Similarly those happy with a big increase can pay more if they want. The alternatives are leave as is and don't improve revenue or do a blanket increase and risk losing fans who just can't afford it or can't justify the rise. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 16:13:51 GMT 1
so if you paid £300 why are you arguing about prices from £300 - £370 unless you are in the upper tier and dont want to pay £370 ? with this range you could pay the same next year as you did this year with I am convinced a much better experience on and off the pitch. yes I had price freeze. Because what I've witnessed since then, apart from about six weeks under Neil Warnock, has been utter shite. The fact that you're convinced we'll be much better next season makes me even less convinced. I think you talk constant rubbish, and if you're not a club employee then you're a very weird individual that likes to pretend he's in the know. but you are buying a season ticket for what you will see next season not this season and currently there are a lot of unknowns but also a lot of talk about what the club want to do. we dont know If we will be in L1 (if so we might see more wins!) If we will be in the Championship What investment Kevin will put in but by the sounds of it this will be significant. I have also never said I work for HTAFC and I can 100% confirm I am not in any form on the payroll of HTAFC. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 16:16:24 GMT 1
I believe the term for this is ‘Shrinkflation’. In the hope that either/or Smithers/Nagle read this, I’m going to repeat a couple of points I’ve made previously: Tiered pricing in a (relatively) modern stadium is bullshit. The days of paying a premium to sit down, as opposed to standing on an (often open) terrace are long gone. One of Hoyle’s better ideas was to recognise this and price attendance accordingly - all seats are effectively the same. The one caveat to this is the Shit Stand Lower at the North end, which is still temporary seating. This area could easily be used for pay on entry and/or any other special offers. Anyone buying a football club nowadays should be willing and able to fund it out of their own pocket. Clearly maximising revenue is more beneficial all round, but if your owner’s brassic, a la Potless, then it’ll all turn to shit pretty quickly. Clearly the owners at City, Newcastle, United, Chelsea etc haven’t bought in just to piss about at the bottom of the league, they’re there to win stuff and grow their ‘brand’. In Town’s case, Nagle will need to invest in an attempt to get into the Premier League (with commensurate cash windfall), then invest again to stay there, all whilst trying to increase revenue to help sustain the new status. Ultimately though, Nagle has to be prepared to fund his indulgence and an extra £500k on STs isn’t worth a fart in comparison. To me, Hoyle’s idea of realistic pricing to maximise sales makes more sense. As long as what’s going on on the field is entertaining the concessions etc revenues will take care of themselves. It’s up to Nagle now to appoint someone that can successfully sell Huddersfield Town as a brand in all the places that that it currently isn’t, in order to bring in the missing £millions. Re tiered pricing I think it's a good way to increase revenue without pricing anyone out. There are no terrible views but obviously it's a much better view top middle than it is bottom corner and the price is the same. Also the concourse in the river side is nicer I seem to remember than the kilner bank. Then you have the north end and particularly the temp seating which should obviously be way cheaper and probably given away to kids. Make it cheap in the south end too to try to get out full and improve the atmosphere. I can't think of any other event where you pay the same regardless of where you sit, when some seats are clearly way more desirable than others. I can see it will annoy those in the good seats if they have to pay a little more but at least they will have the option to move if they object to the price or can't afford it. Similarly those happy with a big increase can pay more if they want. The alternatives are leave as is and don't improve revenue or do a blanket increase and risk losing fans who just can't afford it or can't justify the rise. correct and a massive selling point to the upper tier is it is a lot warmer inside in there at HT than in the Kilner bank, this can really help the older fans in the middle of winter. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 26, 2024 16:20:52 GMT 1
I've fucking heard it all now
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 26, 2024 16:45:13 GMT 1
I certainly wouldn't raise them to £350-£400. Personally I think £300 - £350 depending on your seat is about right and fair for the first rise in many years..then possibly review it again a year down the line. If we go down then it's a huge problem to put prices up at all. If we didnt though we'd probably have the cheapest tickets in L1, with a huge drop in other income streams like TV and advertising. So that is a big problem too if we want to compete at the top end. First rise in three years. They were £249 in 2020-21 and went up to £299 in 2021-22. So please stop pretending that the prices have been the same for so many years. They haven't. Mine didnt go up to £299 in 21/22. I paid £249..like I have for years as have most season card holders Id imagine, except for the £100 in the PL. Why did yours go up? |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 16:47:19 GMT 1
First rise in three years. They were £249 in 2020-21 and went up to £299 in 2021-22. So please stop pretending that the prices have been the same for so many years. They haven't. Mine didnt go up to £299 in 21/22. I paid £249..like I have for years as have most season card holders Id imagine, except for the £100 in the PL. Why did yours go up? Because I got my money back as I wasn't paying 250 nicker for something I wasn't going to be watching. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 26, 2024 16:53:03 GMT 1
First rise in three years. They were £249 in 2020-21 and went up to £299 in 2021-22. So please stop pretending that the prices have been the same for so many years. They haven't. Mine didnt go up to £299 in 21/22. I paid £249..like I have for years as have most season card holders Id imagine, except for the £100 in the PL. Why did yours go up? They were £249 if you didn't ask for your money back in Covid, they were £299 if you did. Plenty did ask for their money back. They then went to blanket £249 again last season. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 16:56:07 GMT 1
Mine didnt go up to £299 in 21/22. I paid £249..like I have for years as have most season card holders Id imagine, except for the £100 in the PL. Why did yours go up? They then went to blanket £249 again last season. I hold myself responsible for the shite we've witnessed since, as I'm sure Slapps and Castlehilltosspot will pin the blame on those that asked for their money back. |
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 26, 2024 16:58:58 GMT 1
I've fucking heard it all now Im honestly sat here in disbelief that someone (who I’m 99% sure works at the club) can be so patronising and condescending about pricing. It’s scary that the club thinks categories/zonal pricing and increases will make us more sustainable with less fans in the ground. A big big shock next season for the club, who I think are very puddled, confused and ignorant. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 16:59:57 GMT 1
Mine didnt go up to £299 in 21/22. I paid £249..like I have for years as have most season card holders Id imagine, except for the £100 in the PL. Why did yours go up? They were £249 if you didn't ask for your money back in Covid, they were £299 if you did. Plenty did ask for their money back. They then went to blanket £249 again last season. I would suggest the £249 this season was Dean wanting to show how large the season ticket support was to potential new owners, I am pretty sure the season tickets and pricing was announced prior to any take over (correct me here if I am wrong I can not remeber the time line). No way would Dean or any owner reduce the ticket prices at this time unless they were trying to show a bigger number of fans to potential new owners. So in reality the reduction to £249 was a bit of a "a sprat to catch a mackerel" and in reality should have been circa £300 each. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 17:00:13 GMT 1
I've fucking heard it all now It’s scary that the club thinks categories/zonal pricing and increases will make us more sustainable with less fans in the ground. A big big shock next season for the club, who I think are very puddled, confused and ignorant. Hey, at least he's going to pay for my ticket  |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 17:01:06 GMT 1
They were £249 if you didn't ask for your money back in Covid, they were £299 if you did. Plenty did ask for their money back. They then went to blanket £249 again last season. , I am pretty sure the season tickets and pricing was announced prior to any take over (correct me here if I am wrong I can not remeber the time line). No way would Dean or any owner reduce the ticket prices at this time unless they were trying to show a bigger number of fans to potential new owners. So in reality the reduction to £249 was a bit of a "a sprat to catch a mackerel" and in reality should have been circa £300 each. The club had already been sold, or at least Nagle had committed to buy, by the time the tickets were announced. More bullshit from CHT. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 17:11:55 GMT 1
I would suggest the £249 this season was Dean wanting to show how large the season ticket support was to potential new owners, I am pretty sure the season tickets and pricing was announced prior to any take over (correct me here if I am wrong I can not remeber the time line). No way would Dean or any owner reduce the ticket prices at this time unless they were trying to show a bigger number of fans to potential new owners. So in reality the reduction to £249 was a bit of a "a sprat to catch a mackerel" and in reality should have been circa £300 each. The club had already been sold, or at least Nagle had committed to buy, by the time the tickets were announced. More bullshit from CHT. its not bull sh** though is it I said I was not sure on the timeline. But the pricing was 100% set by Dean and his team. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 17:12:36 GMT 1
Im honestly sat here in disbelief that someone (who I’m 99% sure works at the club) can be so patronising and condescending about pricing. It’s scary that the club thinks categories/zonal pricing and increases will make us more sustainable with less fans in the ground. A big big shock next season for the club, who I think are very puddled, confused and ignorant. Hey, at least he's going to pay for my ticket yes still happy to as long as you understand you wont be using it ever. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 17:17:06 GMT 1
The club had already been sold, or at least Nagle had committed to buy, by the time the tickets were announced. More bullshit from CHT. its not bull sh** though is it I said I was not sure on the timeline. But the pricing was 100% set by Dean and his team. So let me get this right. Hoyle set the season ticket prices to impress potential buyers, weeks after the buyer had already committed to buying the club. You're having a nightmare here. Please just stop. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 17:18:27 GMT 1
Hey, at least he's going to pay for my ticket yes still happy to as long as you understand you wont be using it ever. Who are you to tell me how to support Town? I've forgotten more about this club than you'll ever know. |
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Post by crux on Mar 26, 2024 17:33:47 GMT 1
They were £249 if you didn't ask for your money back in Covid, they were £299 if you did. Plenty did ask for their money back. They then went to blanket £249 again last season. I would suggest the £249 this season was Dean wanting to show how large the season ticket support was to potential new owners, I am pretty sure the season tickets and pricing was announced prior to any take over (correct me here if I am wrong I can not remeber the time line). No way would Dean or any owner reduce the ticket prices at this time unless they were trying to show a bigger number of fans to potential new owners. So in reality the reduction to £249 was a bit of a "a sprat to catch a mackerel" and in reality should have been circa £300 each. No, more like someone had lost the list of those who had and hadn't got a refund during the Covid season. Therefore everyone had to be charged £249 so as not to piss off those on the 3 year price promise! Some, if not all of the stadium should only go up to a maximum of £299/£300 for next season. I'd also leave the North stand lower tier for pay on the day. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 17:35:16 GMT 1
yes still happy to as long as you understand you wont be using it ever. Who are you to tell me how to support Town? I've forgotten more about this club than you'll ever know. not telling you how to support, telling you if I pay for your seat you are not having the ticket, I suggested buying your seat so you were not able sit there, hence the seat would be empty or given away to someone else and not used by your good self !........................... congratulations on knowing more about the club than me you must be getting quite old now, I retired last year and supported town since birth used to go with my dad back in the day since I was 8years old and had a season ticket since my late teens. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Mar 26, 2024 17:36:48 GMT 1
Hey, at least he's going to pay for my ticket yes still happy to as long as you understand you wont be using it ever. There’s literally a comment about being patronising and condescending that you are replying to yet you decide to counter with that! Incredible. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 17:38:38 GMT 1
Who are you to tell me how to support Town? I've forgotten more about this club than you'll ever know. ............ congratulations on knowing more about the club than me you must be getting quite old now, I retired last year and supported town since birth used to go with my dad back in the day since I was 8years old and had a season ticket since my late teens. Yeah, and why's that? |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 17:39:22 GMT 1
yes still happy to as long as you understand you wont be using it ever. There’s literally a comment about being patronising and condescending that you are replying to yet you decide to counter with that! Incredible. If he's employed by the club, then God help us. |
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Post by Tango on Mar 26, 2024 17:42:18 GMT 1
As a general rule . . .
Clubs don't increase ticket prices to become successful.
Clubs raise ticket prices when they ARE successful.
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Post by royrace on Mar 26, 2024 17:44:09 GMT 1
I've fucking heard it all now Im honestly sat here in disbelief that someone (who I’m 99% sure works at the club) can be so patronising and condescending about pricing. It’s scary that the club thinks categories/zonal pricing and increases will make us more sustainable with less fans in the ground. A big big shock next season for the club, who I think are very puddled, confused and ignorant. I'm sat here in disbelief that there are still people on datm who think he works at the club!!! |
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Post by 2ellandback on Mar 26, 2024 17:46:36 GMT 1
You'll be very surprised when less than 10,000 renew next season. If the talk of tickets rising to £350-£400 is true, the club will see the amount of renewals plummet. I don't think raising them to £300 if we stay up would be unreasonable at all, but to raise them in the event of relegation and to raise them more than that, they're absolutely off their heads. I'm a big music fan, and there's a few bands I like to go and watch. Say a ticket costs £50 for a gig, but then on the next tour that ticket goes up to £150, then I might still be a big fan of the band but I sure as hell ain't shelling out an extra 100 notes for it. I certainly wouldn't raise them to £350-£400. Personally I think £300 - £350 depending on your seat is about right and fair for the first rise in many years..then possibly review it again a year down the line. If we go down then it's a huge problem to put prices up at all. If we didnt though we'd probably have the cheapest tickets in L1, with a huge drop in other income streams like TV and advertising. So that is a big problem too if we want to compete at the top end. Can I take it that you sit in the Kilner and want to pay a lower price? |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 17:52:19 GMT 1
not telling you how to support, telling you if I pay for your seat you are not having the ticket, I suggested buying your seat so you were not able sit there, hence the seat would be empty or given away to someone else and not used by your good self !........................... congratulations on knowing more about the club than me you must be getting quite old now, I retired last year and supported town since birth used to go with my dad back in the day since I was 8years old and had a season ticket since my late teens. Yeah, and why's that? just the read the orignal message where I said I would pay for your seat (basically I was annoyed at all the negative people on here, in the stadium, on twitter and I would be happy to remove one from the stadium by buying the seat). Enough of this now anyway its a completly daft argument. back to the pricing and that debate that actually has a point and many different interesting opionions. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Mar 26, 2024 17:53:12 GMT 1
Im honestly sat here in disbelief that someone (who I’m 99% sure works at the club) can be so patronising and condescending about pricing. It’s scary that the club thinks categories/zonal pricing and increases will make us more sustainable with less fans in the ground. A big big shock next season for the club, who I think are very puddled, confused and ignorant. I'm sat here in disbelief that there are still people on datm who think he works at the club!!! I fully agree.... |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 26, 2024 17:55:35 GMT 1
just the read the orignal message where I said I would pay for your seat (basically I was annoyed at all the negative people on here, in the stadium, on twitter and I would be happy to remove one from the stadium by buying the seat). Enough of this now anyway its a completly daft argument. back to the pricing and that debate that actually has a point and many different interesting opionions. There's 1000s of fans that have stopped going and yet you've picked an argument with one fan that continues to attend every game and I'm the negative one? Jesus wept. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 26, 2024 17:57:45 GMT 1
I certainly wouldn't raise them to £350-£400. Personally I think £300 - £350 depending on your seat is about right and fair for the first rise in many years..then possibly review it again a year down the line. If we go down then it's a huge problem to put prices up at all. If we didnt though we'd probably have the cheapest tickets in L1, with a huge drop in other income streams like TV and advertising. So that is a big problem too if we want to compete at the top end. Can I take it that you sit in the Kilner and want to pay a lower price? ?? Lower price? I pay £249 at the moment. I sit in the centre section of the kilner so if the club put them back up to what they were before Hoyle made them so cheap,,,so £350,.. then id be ok with that. Seems fair and is still way cheaper than fans at this level pay to sit in a side stand everywhere else. It could be £300 in the blocks nearer the corner flag and behind the goal, cos its not as good a view, ,,and hopefully even stay at £249 in the North lower. |
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