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Post by sabailand on Apr 30, 2024 16:06:21 GMT 1
Just out of interest now emotions are reducing if the price stayed at 249 who would not renew. If it’s 299 who would genuinely not renew. I'd renew at £299, even if they go up a bit more than that they'd still be good value.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Apr 30, 2024 16:18:00 GMT 1
I won’t be as I can’t see me being fussed about doing too many games in League 1. There are other factors for me too; son turns 23 in August so I’m guessing renewal for him will be an adult price this time all whilst he’s away at uni in his final year so likely only back for a handful of games, night matches are problematic at the best of times so I won’t do any of those, parking has become an issue over the last month or so, etc. Mainly though we’ve made some horrendous decisions these last 12 months and I’ve had my fill. Make a decision on the manager, get rid of the deadwood, spend some money wisely and make a half decent start to next season and I’ll show my face again. Until then, I can watch via my fire stick if I’m inclined. Yup, whilst we won't be televised quite as much as we would have been in the Championship, its still going to be VERY easy to watch Town without attending next season, given that... - ALL League 1 opening day, final day and midweek fixtures (and all play off games) - All Bank Holiday fixtures (including Easter, Boxing Day and New Years Day) - L1 matches played during international breaks - FIVE League 1 & League 2 fixtures from every weekend round of fixtures. (so likely 1/4 of all home fixtures moved away from the Sat 3pm slot - as opposed to 1/2 of the fixtures being moved that will happen to Championship clubs) - ALL EFL Trophy fixtures (guaranteed 3 games, then there's 4 knockout rounds and the final) - & ALL League Cup fixtures (1 game!?) ...will be televised. The VALUE of a season ticket has gone down, and not just because we've dropped a division. Does this mean that all opening day fixtures will kick off outside the 3pm blackout?
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 30, 2024 16:39:06 GMT 1
Yup, whilst we won't be televised quite as much as we would have been in the Championship, its still going to be VERY easy to watch Town without attending next season, given that... - ALL League 1 opening day, final day and midweek fixtures (and all play off games) - All Bank Holiday fixtures (including Easter, Boxing Day and New Years Day) - L1 matches played during international breaks - FIVE League 1 & League 2 fixtures from every weekend round of fixtures. (so likely 1/4 of all home fixtures moved away from the Sat 3pm slot - as opposed to 1/2 of the fixtures being moved that will happen to Championship clubs) - ALL EFL Trophy fixtures (guaranteed 3 games, then there's 4 knockout rounds and the final) - & ALL League Cup fixtures (1 game!?) ...will be televised. The VALUE of a season ticket has gone down, and not just because we've dropped a division. Does this mean that all opening day fixtures will kick off outside the 3pm blackout? Don't quote me on this, BUT they could theoretically be at 3pm. The adoption of UEFA Article 48 in English football only applies on weekends when 50% of PL and Championship games are scheduled to play within the protected window. Since there are no PL fixtures on the opening day of the FL, and ALL the opening Championship fixtures are being televised (therefore moved away from 3pm) - theoretically then all League 1 and 2 games COULD kick off at 3pm and still be televised. This is what allows lower league (😢) fixtures to be televised at 3pm on a Saturday during international breaks - when there are no 3pm Championship or PL games scheduled then the protected window doesnt apply.
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Post by Polish Hippy on Apr 30, 2024 17:52:23 GMT 1
No one expects prices to stay low forever I disagree. I genuinely think some people expect them to stay low (if not lower than this) forever, even more so after they cut prices for this season They didn’t cut prices for this season.
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Post by terriers2000 on Apr 30, 2024 18:39:22 GMT 1
£350 I’ve heard today
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 30, 2024 18:49:41 GMT 1
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Post by boooothy on Apr 30, 2024 19:14:03 GMT 1
Surely there cannot be many who won’t renew purely on price and then go on to attend no games? Maybe i’m wrong but surely they will attend a few at 25 quid a go.
So logically are we actually losing any money from those non renewals? Are season tickets where the holders attend 10 games a good thing? I’m not sure they are.
In fact didn’t Leeds have some daft plan to fine anyone who didn’t attend 19 games or something?
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Post by softboy on Apr 30, 2024 19:16:06 GMT 1
Obviously the club have told the poster otherwise he/she wouldn’t have quoted it! I guess it’s just one of the clubs way of preparing us without actually telling us, as it was when the sale date was first seen in the toilets
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Post by sabailand on Apr 30, 2024 19:21:15 GMT 1
Do you know if thats for the dearest ST...ie top tier of riverside.
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Post by andyboothscat on Apr 30, 2024 19:32:19 GMT 1
Obviously the club have told the poster otherwise he/she wouldn’t have quoted it! I guess it’s just one of the clubs way of preparing us without actually telling us, as it was when the sale date was first seen in the toilets Obviously. Because no one would ever come on Down at the Mac pretending to know stuff that they don’t.
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Post by softboy on Apr 30, 2024 20:03:54 GMT 1
Don’t be sarcastic. That’s my job.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 30, 2024 20:42:36 GMT 1
Surely there cannot be many who won’t renew purely on price and then go on to attend no games? Maybe i’m wrong but surely they will attend a few at 25 quid a go. So logically are we actually losing any money from those non renewals? Are season tickets where the holders attend 10 games a good thing? I’m not sure they are. In fact didn’t Leeds have some daft plan to fine anyone who didn’t attend 19 games or something? Folk get out of the habit, and some never return .
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Post by boooothy on Apr 30, 2024 20:47:28 GMT 1
Surely there cannot be many who won’t renew purely on price and then go on to attend no games? Maybe i’m wrong but surely they will attend a few at 25 quid a go. So logically are we actually losing any money from those non renewals? Are season tickets where the holders attend 10 games a good thing? I’m not sure they are. In fact didn’t Leeds have some daft plan to fine anyone who didn’t attend 19 games or something? Folk get out of the habit, and some never return . I get that but if we are winning they’ll come back. If we are losing we’ll probably lose those fans eventually anyway.
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Post by terriers2000 on Apr 30, 2024 20:48:59 GMT 1
overheard it in the club shop today
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 30, 2024 20:51:35 GMT 1
Folk get out of the habit, and some never return . I get that but if we are winning they’ll come back. If we are losing we’ll probably lose those fans eventually anyway. Not sure . I’m guessing most will return.
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Post by willo on May 1, 2024 0:08:06 GMT 1
40% increase if correct, big leap. I wasn’t renewing anyway but definitely not at that price and when I have 2 to buy.
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Post by rockwall on May 1, 2024 6:38:14 GMT 1
They won't hear much in the stadium at that price.
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Post by rockwall on May 1, 2024 8:01:17 GMT 1
I'm not quite sure how many SC were sold this season.
But just for context.
14,000 sold at £249 would = 3.5m
If this £350 price was true. The club would need to sell at least 10,000 to match the 3.5m
But on a matchday that would technically mean 4,000 less footfall.
I can't personally see us selling 10,000 at that price in League 1.
I understand that I haven't taken Over 65s and u18s etc into consideration, but I'm sure similar numbers would apply.
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 1, 2024 8:15:07 GMT 1
Won't be buying then. The reason they were made cheaper originally was to make it cost effective for those that missed lots of games for Cricket for example. I've missed around 8 games this season due to cricket and holidays. When you consider that you can generally get a ticket for £10 with the flag bearers, the kids for a quid school tickets etc etc its not worth it for me and many 1000s like me. 15 games at 350 quid is around £23.33 a game. Tickets sold will go from 18000 to 12000 with those increases. I hope they aren't modelling the prices from other clubs, as Huddersfield is an outlier in the price elasticity of demand model, mark my words Kev.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 8:16:32 GMT 1
I'm not quite sure how many SC were sold this season. But just for context. 14,000 sold at £249 would = 3.5m If this £350 price was true. The club would need to sell at least 10,000 to match the 3.5m But on a matchday that would technically mean 4,000 less footfall. I can't personally see us selling 10,000 at that price in League 1. I understand that I haven't taken Over 65s and u18s etc into consideration, but I'm sure similar numbers would apply. What about if they only sell 10000 and then put a good team on the pitch and people flock back and pay on the gate therefore earning them around £20 a game rather than the £13 we get from the season cards. We claim to be a big club in league 1 but the fans only turn up if it’s cheap. We use the same argument to deride Bradford about how small they are yet unless it’s 5p town fans aren’t bothered for it.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 8:22:22 GMT 1
Won't be buying then. The reason they were made cheaper originally was to make it cost effective for those that missed lots of games for Cricket for example. I've missed around 8 games this season due to cricket and holidays. When you consider that you can generally get a ticket for £10 with the flag bearers, the kids for a quid school tickets etc etc its not worth it for me and many 1000s like me. 15 games at 350 quid is around £23.33 a game. Tickets sold will go from 18000 to 12000 with those increases. I hope they aren't modelling the prices from other clubs, as Huddersfield is an outlier in the price elasticity of demand model, mark my words Kev. Lots of silliness in this post. They were never made cheap for that reason, we would never sell 18000 unless we were in the premier league and that would be a push after a couple of seasons. Huddersfield town isn’t a charity it’s a professional football club and it needs to raise its turnover which means having competitive prices against the clubs it considers a similar size, if it doesn’t make sense for you to have a season card go play cricket and just pay on the day when you are free
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Post by k1man999 on May 1, 2024 8:36:50 GMT 1
Been a season ticket holder for 35 years been watching bit longer. Following us away up and down the country However I'm seriously considering not renewing due to Following 1.cost dependant for me and my lad 2 I'm sick of the sub standard shite we have to watch and I've watched some shite 3. Part of that substandard shit is the officiating if we think it's bad in championship lg1 is gonna be terrible 4 I work a good few weekends and nights so do miss a few games it's been cost effective as it is to still get a st have to see if still is 5 the ambition of the club and the way its run it's been a farce since the 2nd prem season
I will still rock up to chosen games and pos keep going away when I can ,some good places to go Blackpool, wrexham stockport orient, I want to see probably along with others some positive action thats tangible ,some degree of hope There seems to be a lot of hot air coming out the club without much substance
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Post by rockwall on May 1, 2024 8:52:48 GMT 1
I'm not quite sure how many SC were sold this season. But just for context. 14,000 sold at £249 would = 3.5m If this £350 price was true. The club would need to sell at least 10,000 to match the 3.5m But on a matchday that would technically mean 4,000 less footfall. I can't personally see us selling 10,000 at that price in League 1. I understand that I haven't taken Over 65s and u18s etc into consideration, but I'm sure similar numbers would apply. What about if they only sell 10000 and then put a good team on the pitch and people flock back and pay on the gate therefore earning them around £20 a game rather than the £13 we get from the season cards. We claim to be a big club in league 1 but the fans only turn up if it’s cheap. We use the same argument to deride Bradford about how small they are yet unless it’s 5p town fans aren’t bothered for it. It all stems from previous pricing. We have had PL and Championship for £100 - £249. The dross we have seen to then be paying £100+ for Lg1 isn't very good. You have to be able to justify an increase in line with the current system. It is no good at comparing with other clubs as they have had different pricing.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 8:59:34 GMT 1
What about if they only sell 10000 and then put a good team on the pitch and people flock back and pay on the gate therefore earning them around £20 a game rather than the £13 we get from the season cards. We claim to be a big club in league 1 but the fans only turn up if it’s cheap. We use the same argument to deride Bradford about how small they are yet unless it’s 5p town fans aren’t bothered for it. It all stems from previous pricing. We have had PL and Championship for £100 - £249. The dross we have seen to then be paying £100+ for Lg1 isn't very good. You have to be able to justify an increase in line with the current system. It is no good at comparing with other clubs as they have had different pricing. Let’s be shit in league 1 forever then 👍🏻
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Post by castlehillterrier on May 1, 2024 9:05:10 GMT 1
I'm not quite sure how many SC were sold this season. But just for context. 14,000 sold at £249 would = 3.5m If this £350 price was true. The club would need to sell at least 10,000 to match the 3.5m But on a matchday that would technically mean 4,000 less footfall. I can't personally see us selling 10,000 at that price in League 1. I understand that I haven't taken Over 65s and u18s etc into consideration, but I'm sure similar numbers would apply. What about if they only sell 10000 and then put a good team on the pitch and people flock back and pay on the gate therefore earning them around £20 a game rather than the £13 we get from the season cards. We claim to be a big club in league 1 but the fans only turn up if it’s cheap. We use the same argument to deride Bradford about how small they are yet unless it’s 5p town fans aren’t bothered for it. This is right, I think the club would be delighted with 9000 - 10,000 season tickets at approx £350.00, if they show ambition and performances towards the top of the league then people would pay £25.00 on the day to watch many games we would have a drop in season ticket holders but possibly even an increase in income. The performances on the pitch however need to be sorted first with a real intent to go get top 2 next season.
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Post by htafcokay on May 1, 2024 9:13:35 GMT 1
It all stems from previous pricing. We have had PL and Championship for £100 - £249. The dross we have seen to then be paying £100+ for Lg1 isn't very good. You have to be able to justify an increase in line with the current system. It is no good at comparing with other clubs as they have had different pricing. Let’s be shit in league 1 forever then 👍🏻 I'm sure the club will be happy for you to pay over the asking price if you're that bothered about it.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 1, 2024 9:24:23 GMT 1
Won't be buying then. The reason they were made cheaper originally was to make it cost effective for those that missed lots of games for Cricket for example. 😂
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 9:24:36 GMT 1
Let’s be shit in league 1 forever then 👍🏻 I'm sure the club will be happy for you to pay over the asking price if you're that bothered about it. 🙄 oh god that ridiculous argument. If I can’t afford to do something I won’t go I don’t expect the prices to come down for me or someone else to pay more.Its a £50 rise not £500
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Post by Dan on May 1, 2024 9:26:22 GMT 1
Won't be buying then. The reason they were made cheaper originally was to make it cost effective for those that missed lots of games for Cricket for example. 😂 Will somebody PLEASE think about the cricketers!
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Post by m62terrier on May 1, 2024 10:01:54 GMT 1
Surely there cannot be many who won’t renew purely on price and then go on to attend no games? Maybe i’m wrong but surely they will attend a few at 25 quid a go. So logically are we actually losing any money from those non renewals? Are season tickets where the holders attend 10 games a good thing? I’m not sure they are. In fact didn’t Leeds have some daft plan to fine anyone who didn’t attend 19 games or something?When you have more demand than seats available, clubs can attempt to do this sort of thing (although still not correct). We could offer ours at £100 and not sell out. I read somewhere that Man Utd are bringing in a rule next season that fans must attend 17 of the 19 league games, or they will lost their seat. Again ridiculous, but again there are likely thousands of people waiting to buy a season ticket and the club wants/needs to make money from fans attending games. FFP is starting to hamstring clubs, even as big as Man Utd, and rather than pay players less, they want to make more money from supporters.
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