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Post by m62terrier on May 1, 2024 10:10:16 GMT 1
What about if they only sell 10000 and then put a good team on the pitch and people flock back and pay on the gate therefore earning them around £20 a game rather than the £13 we get from the season cards. We claim to be a big club in league 1 but the fans only turn up if it’s cheap. We use the same argument to deride Bradford about how small they are yet unless it’s 5p town fans aren’t bothered for it. This is right, I think the club would be delighted with 9000 - 10,000 season tickets at approx £350.00, if they show ambition and performances towards the top of the league then people would pay £25.00 on the day to watch many games we would have a drop in season ticket holders but possibly even an increase in income. The performances on the pitch however need to be sorted first with a real intent to go get top 2 next season. It's a delicate balancing act to get this pricing right. 10,000 at £350 or 14,000 at £250. Ultimately if we start to win a lot, people will pay on the day more. However selling season cards cheaply, doesn't mean we can't make money off pay on the day, it's not like we won't have seats to sell, even if we have 14,000 ST holders. The argument for an increase is we need to start gradually increasing the season ticket prices. Stick at £250 next season and then if we struggle it would be harder to justify an increase, and ultimately because of FFP we need to get as much money in as possible. I think £350 is too high though this time round. I think they said they were reintroducing tiers/zones, so I would go something like the below North Stand Lower £249 North Stand Upper/South Stand £279 Kilner/Riverside Lower £299 Riverside Upper £319
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Post by Sio on May 1, 2024 10:18:39 GMT 1
If the club really want to start increasing prices moving forward (arguably fair?), they'd be mad to do it now.
Disastrous season resulting in relegation caused by the club's own decisions - "oh yeah and can we have an extra £50-100 next season please?". Lunacy.
Trust in the club to make the right decisions is very, very low at the moment. They need to earn it back: what better way than to take a slight hit on tickets in League One, get the stadium as full as possible, bounce us straight back up and then ask for some return from the fans the season after next back in the Championship once a bit of interest has returned.
Not only would it be a dreadful strategy to increase prices this season but it'd also emotionally, or purely through principal, deter a lot of regular fans, and some people don't go back on that decision.
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Post by space hardware on May 1, 2024 10:25:37 GMT 1
The decisions that the new regime has made on the playing and coaching staff side of things resulted in a shockingly poor and quite embarrassing season.
Based purely on this, I haven't got much faith in there being a sensible decision over the price of season tickets.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 1, 2024 10:30:35 GMT 1
Will somebody PLEASE think about the cricketers! I share your concern but don't worry, they are down.... but not out.
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Post by rockwall on May 1, 2024 10:30:42 GMT 1
It all stems from previous pricing. We have had PL and Championship for £100 - £249. The dross we have seen to then be paying £100+ for Lg1 isn't very good. You have to be able to justify an increase in line with the current system. It is no good at comparing with other clubs as they have had different pricing. Let’s be shit in league 1 forever then 👍🏻 When have I said we will be shit?
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 1, 2024 10:52:41 GMT 1
The decisions that the new regime has made on the playing and coaching staff side of things resulted in a shockingly poor and quite embarrassing season. Based purely on this, I haven't got much faith in there being a sensible decision over the price of season tickets. "You pay more, we will do better"??🤔
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 10:52:47 GMT 1
Let’s be shit in league 1 forever then 👍🏻 When have I said we will be shit? You haven't but we will be unless we start making more money. We are already reliant on an owner for 10 million a year at championship level, unless they build revenue from tickets, merchandise, sponsors and commercial we will never be able to hack it at that level. Yes there will be anomalies where teams with less money get success but the margins for error are incredibly small as we are now finding out, If you really want to be successful in the top 2 divisions then you need a fanbase that isn't constantly penny pinching and understands the need to contribute within reason. We went up with brighton in 2017 and people like to compare us sometimes, their season tickets in the championship that season were as follows: Zone A................£475 Zone B + C.........£565 Zone D................£670 Zone E................£740 Zone F................£510 Luton Town 2022 promotion season £430 5 year loyalty £455 2 year loyalty £480 General Yes we're a level below championship now but I think anywhere in the 300-400 mark is reasonable
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 1, 2024 11:16:15 GMT 1
Won't be buying then. The reason they were made cheaper originally was to make it cost effective for those that missed lots of games for Cricket for example. I've missed around 8 games this season due to cricket and holidays. When you consider that you can generally get a ticket for £10 with the flag bearers, the kids for a quid school tickets etc etc its not worth it for me and many 1000s like me. 15 games at 350 quid is around £23.33 a game. Tickets sold will go from 18000 to 12000 with those increases. I hope they aren't modelling the prices from other clubs, as Huddersfield is an outlier in the price elasticity of demand model, mark my words Kev. Lots of silliness in this post. They were never made cheap for that reason, we would never sell 18000 unless we were in the premier league and that would be a push after a couple of seasons. Huddersfield town isn’t a charity it’s a professional football club and it needs to raise its turnover which means having competitive prices against the clubs it considers a similar size, if it doesn’t make sense for you to have a season card go play cricket and just pay on the day when you are free I think you need to enlighten us all on the reason then. That was the point when they were reduced, Season tickets were reduced and matchday prices increased to i think £30. So that anyone that attended more than half the games was a win for a season ticket. Thats why its a joke when the attendance is 22001 and 4000 season tickets have been unused. Especially at this time of year. In reality the cost saving was marginal at around the 15 game mark, when promotions were taken into account. If its £350 its a no brainer and ill pay on the day when free, the problem with that is that its easy to just stay at home and watch on ifollow instead of £50 say for me and two kids, and once your out of the habit, it becomes less frequent. ill end up just going to away matches as its a day out and better value for 3 of us, no point in buying a home shirt for them both either then, or spend any money at the stadium. I think any increase other than a marginal one, will result in a 33% drop in sales.... We will probably drop 10-15% keeping them at the level they are.
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 1, 2024 11:18:27 GMT 1
Im lodging a claim with my credit card for this years anyway, so next years should be cheap, Good luck to the club proving the service was as described by the owner on twitter.
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Post by boooothy on May 1, 2024 11:20:58 GMT 1
The money has to come from somewhere.
What is a sensible alternative to a price increase? We all want a top end Championship club, the only possible way for that to happen is an increase in revenue. Like it or not that means our money whatever source it comes from, it’s still from our pockets.
I know a Netflix type thing would be external revenue but let’s face it there is only us interested in Huddersfield Town right now.
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Post by boooothy on May 1, 2024 11:23:32 GMT 1
Of course the other option is to spend less. Starting with that manned garage at the top of Canalside.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 11:44:08 GMT 1
Lots of silliness in this post. They were never made cheap for that reason, we would never sell 18000 unless we were in the premier league and that would be a push after a couple of seasons. Huddersfield town isn’t a charity it’s a professional football club and it needs to raise its turnover which means having competitive prices against the clubs it considers a similar size, if it doesn’t make sense for you to have a season card go play cricket and just pay on the day when you are free I think you need to enlighten us all on the reason then. That was the point when they were reduced, Season tickets were reduced and matchday prices increased to i think £30. So that anyone that attended more than half the games was a win for a season ticket. Thats why its a joke when the attendance is 22001 and 4000 season tickets have been unused. Especially at this time of year. In reality the cost saving was marginal at around the 15 game mark, when promotions were taken into account. If its £350 its a no brainer and ill pay on the day when free, the problem with that is that its easy to just stay at home and watch on ifollow instead of £50 say for me and two kids, and once your out of the habit, it becomes less frequent. ill end up just going to away matches as its a day out and better value for 3 of us, no point in buying a home shirt for them both either then, or spend any money at the stadium. I think any increase other than a marginal one, will result in a 33% drop in sales.... We will probably drop 10-15% keeping them at the level they are. They lowered them to fill the stands and also to get the money up front I think it helps with planning the finances because as you say people may no necessarily pay on the gate especially if things don’t go to plan on the pitch. The model works to a certain point, but realistically long term you are hamstrung and become reliant on the owner. If town fans want to operate as the big club we claim we are then we need to pay the going rate, if then our crowds are high enough we gain the financial advantage over say a Barnsley, Bolton at this level and are able to compete with similar sized clubs in the championship. We have the potential to operate comfortably in the middle of the championship anything above that and we will always be reliant on an investor (unless we gain 10000 new fans somewhere). So what do we want cheap tickets and a punchers chance or operate as the club we want to be and ensure we don’t constantly fight relegation in the championship
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 1, 2024 11:47:15 GMT 1
The money has to come from somewhere. What is a sensible alternative to a price increase? We all want a top end Championship club, the only possible way for that to happen is an increase in revenue. Like it or not that means our money whatever source it comes from, it’s still from our pockets. I know a Netflix type thing would be external revenue but let’s face it there is only us interested in Huddersfield Town right now. It would be interesting to do an analysis of the relegation/promotion from/to the PL, and see if there’s a trend forming? My view is that the PL want marketable clubs in their division, and also they would prefer if the promoted and relegated teams were to form a small core of teams over the years (i.e. the same 10 clubs yo yoing). Leicester have been promoted, so I assume that ‘saves’ the PL in parachute payment commitments. Same with Leeds or Soton if they go up. What that generates in the Championship is the same thing you have in the PL, a small group of clubs vying for the top prize, and the remainder trying to stay in the division. This is why I fecking hate the PL and how they’ve manipulated football in the last 30yrs. Imagine a normal business that had a bad year and was pushed out of the FTSE 100. Would the LSE bung them a few hundred million to try and regain their place? Football is bonkers, the PL has induced casino football, and you have to be very lucky and have the right contacts to survive. The Championship is a great league, but I fear that the PL is moulding it into PL division 2… Edit to say OT, this is why I think ST prices are largely irrelevant to success or failure of clubs at this level. At the lower levels with crowds of 5-6,000 they’re absolutely crucial for those clubs.
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Post by htafcokay on May 1, 2024 11:50:33 GMT 1
The money has to come from somewhere. What is a sensible alternative to a price increase? We all want a top end Championship club, the only possible way for that to happen is an increase in revenue. Like it or not that means our money whatever source it comes from, it’s still from our pockets. I know a Netflix type thing would be external revenue but let’s face it there is only us interested in Huddersfield Town right now. The commercial people actually doing their jobs and bringing in sufficient revenue. That's what they're paid for.
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 1, 2024 11:57:32 GMT 1
I think you need to enlighten us all on the reason then. That was the point when they were reduced, Season tickets were reduced and matchday prices increased to i think £30. So that anyone that attended more than half the games was a win for a season ticket. Thats why its a joke when the attendance is 22001 and 4000 season tickets have been unused. Especially at this time of year. In reality the cost saving was marginal at around the 15 game mark, when promotions were taken into account. If its £350 its a no brainer and ill pay on the day when free, the problem with that is that its easy to just stay at home and watch on ifollow instead of £50 say for me and two kids, and once your out of the habit, it becomes less frequent. ill end up just going to away matches as its a day out and better value for 3 of us, no point in buying a home shirt for them both either then, or spend any money at the stadium. I think any increase other than a marginal one, will result in a 33% drop in sales.... We will probably drop 10-15% keeping them at the level they are. They lowered them to fill the stands and also to get the money up front I think it helps with planning the finances because as you say people may no necessarily pay on the gate especially if things don’t go to plan on the pitch. The model works to a certain point, but realistically long term you are hamstrung and become reliant on the owner. If town fans want to operate as the big club we claim we are then we need to pay the going rate, if then our crowds are high enough we gain the financial advantage over say a Barnsley, Bolton at this level and are able to compete with similar sized clubs in the championship. We have the potential to operate comfortably in the middle of the championship anything above that and we will always be reliant on an investor (unless we gain 10000 new fans somewhere). So what do we want cheap tickets and a punchers chance or operate as the club we want to be and ensure we don’t constantly fight relegation in the championship That works if you believe that the price/demand is inelastic, In reality we are just below a tipping point, where if it goes up anything other than marginally then it wont make sense for alot of people... Those that attend around 15 home games per year. They make up a massive proportion of the fan base when you consider 1/4 of ticket holders done turn up each week. If you tick over the threshold then demand will suddenly plummet. before returning to elastic pricing for the remaining 66%. That is not something that Kev and Co will understand studying an economics book, its a very localised phenomenon, mainly due to the strength and popularity of cricket in the area amongst other competing factors.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 11:58:05 GMT 1
The money has to come from somewhere. What is a sensible alternative to a price increase? We all want a top end Championship club, the only possible way for that to happen is an increase in revenue. Like it or not that means our money whatever source it comes from, it’s still from our pockets. I know a Netflix type thing would be external revenue but let’s face it there is only us interested in Huddersfield Town right now. The commercial people actually doing their jobs and bringing in sufficient revenue. That's what they're paid for. Surely you understand that it can't just come from commercial revenue. Contribution needs to come from all over the business including the gates, the HTSA stance is naive and is essentially why many I know feel they don't represent the fan bases views. It is so unbalanced to expect all new revenue to be gained via the commercial team.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 11:59:22 GMT 1
They lowered them to fill the stands and also to get the money up front I think it helps with planning the finances because as you say people may no necessarily pay on the gate especially if things don’t go to plan on the pitch. The model works to a certain point, but realistically long term you are hamstrung and become reliant on the owner. If town fans want to operate as the big club we claim we are then we need to pay the going rate, if then our crowds are high enough we gain the financial advantage over say a Barnsley, Bolton at this level and are able to compete with similar sized clubs in the championship. We have the potential to operate comfortably in the middle of the championship anything above that and we will always be reliant on an investor (unless we gain 10000 new fans somewhere). So what do we want cheap tickets and a punchers chance or operate as the club we want to be and ensure we don’t constantly fight relegation in the championship That works if you believe that the price/demand is inelastic, In reality we are just below a tipping point, where if it goes up anything other than marginally then it wont make sense for alot of people... Those that attend around 15 home games per year. They make up a massive proportion of the fan base when you consider 1/4 of ticket holders done turn up each week. If you tick over the threshold then demand will suddenly plummet. before returning to elastic pricing for the remaining 66%. That is not something that Kev and Co will understand studying an economics book, its a very localised phenomenon, mainly due to the strength and popularity of cricket in the area amongst other competing factors. Agree to an extent but a £2 a game increase on season ticket prices shouldn't be the tipping point.
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 1, 2024 11:59:29 GMT 1
The money has to come from somewhere. What is a sensible alternative to a price increase? We all want a top end Championship club, the only possible way for that to happen is an increase in revenue. Like it or not that means our money whatever source it comes from, it’s still from our pockets. I know a Netflix type thing would be external revenue but let’s face it there is only us interested in Huddersfield Town right now. The commercial people actually doing their jobs and bringing in sufficient revenue. That's what they're paid for. Someone will quote an economics book rather than look at reality and we can add it to the other dreadful decisions that have been made by people with no connection or understanding of the towns people.
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Post by htafcokay on May 1, 2024 12:02:02 GMT 1
The commercial people actually doing their jobs and bringing in sufficient revenue. That's what they're paid for. Surely you understand that it can't just come from commercial revenue. Contribution needs to come from all over the business including the gates, the HTSA stance is naive and is essentially why many I know feel they don't represent the fan bases views. It is so unbalanced to expect all new revenue to be gained via the commercial team. I'm not expecting ALL new revenue to come from the commercial team.
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 1, 2024 12:05:37 GMT 1
That works if you believe that the price/demand is inelastic, In reality we are just below a tipping point, where if it goes up anything other than marginally then it wont make sense for alot of people... Those that attend around 15 home games per year. They make up a massive proportion of the fan base when you consider 1/4 of ticket holders done turn up each week. If you tick over the threshold then demand will suddenly plummet. before returning to elastic pricing for the remaining 66%. That is not something that Kev and Co will understand studying an economics book, its a very localised phenomenon, mainly due to the strength and popularity of cricket in the area amongst other competing factors. Agree to an extent but a £2 a game increase on season ticket prices shouldn't be the tipping point. my original quote was from 350 a season, Did we pay £250 this year? So for many its a £100 increase over 15 games, using my example, price per game goes from 16.66 to 23.33. I can guarantee if im not a season ticket holder I wont be spending £250 at the club on tickets over a season, so im overpaying already, but happy to as I attend more games paying upfront. If we had a bad year like this id have stayed at home since darren moores first interview without a season ticket. Those are the cold/hard truths. I can easily afford by the way, for me its value for money, rather than cost.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 12:08:43 GMT 1
Agree to an extent but a £2 a game increase on season ticket prices shouldn't be the tipping point. my original quote was from 350 a season, Did we pay £250 this year? So for many its a £100 increase over 15 games, using my example, price per game goes from 16.66 to 23.33. I can guarantee if im not a season ticket holder I wont be spending £250 at the club on tickets over a season, so im overpaying already, but happy to as I attend more games paying upfront. If we had a bad year like this id have stayed at home since darren moores first interview without a season ticket. Those are the cold/hard truths. I can easily afford by the way, for me its value for money, rather than cost. £350 would be £4 per game. You are paying for 23 games not 15 you could give your ticket to someone else you are buying the seat for a season. It sounds like you have a particular need and not a season card, maybe you should get in touch with the club about some kind of 15 game deal where you pick and choose your games.
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Post by shawsie on May 1, 2024 12:12:57 GMT 1
The commercial people actually doing their jobs and bringing in sufficient revenue. That's what they're paid for. Someone will quote an economics book rather than look at reality and we can add it to the other dreadful decisions that have been made by people with no connection or understanding of the towns people. Its a real dilemma this - this season has been an awful watch pretty much start to finish. We've been relegated also so its a double whammy. That said, DH's low ticketing cost strategy is now biting us in the arse - folks have got used to relatively cheap football. When the product on the pitch has been so dreadful good luck with increasing pricing and maintaining numbers and interest. Personally, i dont mind a modest uplift - i can afford it and its probably long overdue if we as a fan base want to watch competitive championship football and aspire to go even higher now and again. I cant speak for everyone though and unless the owner / senior leadership team start to rebuild trust with their "customers" I fear many just saying cant be arsed anymore. Similar lines i've heard from a few fans recently is stark - "ive watched town in all 4 divisions now and recent owner decisions make me feel completely disinterested - there's little/no ambition, and as ever when we get some success we dont follow it up with investment, quickly regress and go backwards. As such, i will pick and choose going forward". Apathy replacing anger and that was readily apparent last weekend - normally there are real voices of discontent.............nothing last week of note and some very sparsely populated stands for what was a vital game.
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Post by fredcarno1 on May 1, 2024 12:14:14 GMT 1
The notion that asking fans to pay extra will mean much more investment and a better product on the field is deeply floored whilst ever we’re run so badly behind the scenes. If we put the prices up by £100 average ticket price but take up drops to 10-12k that probably means approximately another million pounds of income.
For perspective that gives our recruitment team the extra funds to go and get us one Ben Wiles or 2 Tyreece Simpson’s. It’s hardly a game changer !!!
If the club decide to put up prices significantly (20%+) I suspect what may happen is we’ll drop back to 10k season card holders until we have a bit of success or they have a rethink over the model as Hoyle did whereby we prioritised numbers through the gate over lower numbers paying a bit more.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on May 1, 2024 12:16:35 GMT 1
How many season cards at £249 would it take to cover Danny Wards contract?
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Post by boooothy on May 1, 2024 12:17:16 GMT 1
The money has to come from somewhere. What is a sensible alternative to a price increase? We all want a top end Championship club, the only possible way for that to happen is an increase in revenue. Like it or not that means our money whatever source it comes from, it’s still from our pockets. I know a Netflix type thing would be external revenue but let’s face it there is only us interested in Huddersfield Town right now. The commercial people actually doing their jobs and bringing in sufficient revenue. That's what they're paid for. I’m with you there. It’s criminal seeing the empty boxes on a match day.
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 1, 2024 12:17:25 GMT 1
my original quote was from 350 a season, Did we pay £250 this year? So for many its a £100 increase over 15 games, using my example, price per game goes from 16.66 to 23.33. I can guarantee if im not a season ticket holder I wont be spending £250 at the club on tickets over a season, so im overpaying already, but happy to as I attend more games paying upfront. If we had a bad year like this id have stayed at home since darren moores first interview without a season ticket. Those are the cold/hard truths. I can easily afford by the way, for me its value for money, rather than cost. £350 would be £4 per game. You are paying for 23 games not 15 you could give your ticket to someone else you are buying the seat for a season. It sounds like you have a particular need and not a season card, maybe you should get in touch with the club about some kind of 15 game deal where you pick and choose your games. Yeah, its my situation and the 4000 other fans in the same boat that regularly don't turn up..... that's why there is a threshold. 12000 may be realistic in league 1, that could be 8000 at £350. We Dropped the price to get these extra fans in, Now we put them back up after dropping a division.... what happens to these fans? My point is the reason they wont renew, is the opposite of why they got one originally. Ive never been a 23 games a season fan, I got a season ticket when it made sense along with 4000 others and wont when it doesn't make sense.... probably with around 4000 others.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 12:24:34 GMT 1
£350 would be £4 per game. You are paying for 23 games not 15 you could give your ticket to someone else you are buying the seat for a season. It sounds like you have a particular need and not a season card, maybe you should get in touch with the club about some kind of 15 game deal where you pick and choose your games. Yeah, its my situation and the 4000 other fans in the same boat that regularly don't turn up..... that's why there is a threshold. 12000 may be realistic in league 1, that could be 8000 at £350. We Dropped the price to get these extra fans in, Now we put them back up after dropping a division.... what happens to these fans? My point is the reason they wont renew, is the opposite of why they got one originally. Ive never been a 23 games a season fan, I got a season ticket when it made sense along with 4000 others and wont when it doesn't make sense.... probably with around 4000 others. I understand there will be many who can't make all 23 games and if I was only able to make 10-15 I wouldn't buy I would pay on the gate. Brings the question what size of club are we and what should our expectations on the pitch be? A club that can only muster 12000 fans at £15 a game is a league 1 outfit. We are in a bad place I understand that, lots of apathy and the timing is shit but we have to start making more money and if we can't pull in the crowds we will always be where we are.
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Post by boooothy on May 1, 2024 12:27:16 GMT 1
£350 would be £4 per game. You are paying for 23 games not 15 you could give your ticket to someone else you are buying the seat for a season. It sounds like you have a particular need and not a season card, maybe you should get in touch with the club about some kind of 15 game deal where you pick and choose your games. Yeah, its my situation and the 4000 other fans in the same boat that regularly don't turn up..... that's why there is a threshold. 12000 may be realistic in league 1, that could be 8000 at £350. We Dropped the price to get these extra fans in, Now we put them back up after dropping a division.... what happens to these fans? My point is the reason they wont renew, is the opposite of why they got one originally. Ive never been a 23 games a season fan, I got a season ticket when it made sense along with 4000 others and wont when it doesn't make sense.... probably with around 4000 others. This honestly isn’t a criticism. Do the club want season ticket holders like yourself? Of course you are wanted as a fan but a very simple ticket purchasing system where you just pay 25 quid each game you can make. Ticket on your phone? Does that make more sense? You’d probably have a very similar outlay to this season to watch the games you want. Then the rest of us who attend 23 pick up the slack and pay a bit more? 4000 empty season ticket seats is a terrible look and the attendances we announce a joke.
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Post by rockwall on May 1, 2024 12:42:36 GMT 1
When have I said we will be shit? You haven't but we will be unless we start making more money. We are already reliant on an owner for 10 million a year at championship level, unless they build revenue from tickets, merchandise, sponsors and commercial we will never be able to hack it at that level. Yes there will be anomalies where teams with less money get success but the margins for error are incredibly small as we are now finding out, If you really want to be successful in the top 2 divisions then you need a fanbase that isn't constantly penny pinching and understands the need to contribute within reason. We went up with brighton in 2017 and people like to compare us sometimes, their season tickets in the championship that season were as follows: Zone A................£475 Zone B + C.........£565 Zone D................£670 Zone E................£740 Zone F................£510 Luton Town 2022 promotion season £430 5 year loyalty £455 2 year loyalty £480 General Yes we're a level below championship now but I think anywhere in the 300-400 mark is reasonable That is the whole point I was making. Because we have had it cheap for a long time, it's difficult to up prices to match most clubs due no being able to justify doing it. If SC had been £300 for the last few seasons and we had played well, not wasted money sacking managers etc then upping to £350 would be fine. But we have had 2 consecutive seasons of dullness. Failed manager who have needed paying off. Now a relegation. Yet they are planning on raising prices. Entertainment can't be guaranteed either. Grand scheme of things, the actual income from raising tickets £50 wouldn't make much difference. Footfall makes the difference. Il admit, itl be the first time in 20 years I won't have a SC if they are £350. Living in Penrith, il pick and choose the games from now on.
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Post by DuffMan on May 1, 2024 12:45:34 GMT 1
You haven't but we will be unless we start making more money. We are already reliant on an owner for 10 million a year at championship level, unless they build revenue from tickets, merchandise, sponsors and commercial we will never be able to hack it at that level. Yes there will be anomalies where teams with less money get success but the margins for error are incredibly small as we are now finding out, If you really want to be successful in the top 2 divisions then you need a fanbase that isn't constantly penny pinching and understands the need to contribute within reason. We went up with brighton in 2017 and people like to compare us sometimes, their season tickets in the championship that season were as follows: Zone A................£475 Zone B + C.........£565 Zone D................£670 Zone E................£740 Zone F................£510 Luton Town 2022 promotion season £430 5 year loyalty £455 2 year loyalty £480 General Yes we're a level below championship now but I think anywhere in the 300-400 mark is reasonable That is the whole point I was making. Because we have had it cheap for a long time, it's difficult to up prices to match most clubs due no being able to justify doing it. If SC had been £300 for the last few seasons and we had played well, not wasted money sacking managers etc then upping to £350 would be fine. But we have had 2 consecutive seasons of dullness. Failed manager who have needed paying off. Now a relegation. Yet they are planning on raising prices. Entertainment can't be guaranteed either. Grand scheme of things, the actual income from raising tickets £50 wouldn't make much difference. Footfall makes the difference. Il admit, itl be the first time in 20 years I won't have a SC if they are £350. Living in Penrith, il pick and choose the games from now on. I think it is time to let the people who want to pick and choose games do that. Absolutely no problem with that, but locking out seats for 23 games for fans to pick and choose makes no sense as if we romp the league we can start filling it up and actually making some money and that would be fair game all round.
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