Tinpot
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 5, 2024 14:08:14 GMT 1
Taking nothing for granted until mathematically safe, but even though we're closer to the drop now than at any stage during the season, weirdly I'm more confident than ever of staying up.
As for complacency - as long as the players and head coach aren't complacent (& I've no reason to believe they would be!) I don't care if fans are.
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 5, 2024 14:49:26 GMT 1
At this stage last season we were down and out. Now we are outside the bottom 3 and have a quality manager and better players it seems inconceivable we will be relegated...that's what worries me the most.
A win tomorrow night will ease my fears significantly.
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Post by ldotm on Mar 5, 2024 17:33:00 GMT 1
It's not over until it's over. Agreed, you can’t write us off for promotion just yet. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 5, 2024 17:34:28 GMT 1
It's not over until it's over. Agreed, you can’t write us off for promotion just yet. Pillock. |
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Post by ldotm on Mar 5, 2024 19:16:52 GMT 1
Agreed, you can’t write us off for promotion just yet. Pillock. Any need? |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 5, 2024 22:14:47 GMT 1
Sorry, thought you had a sense of humour. |
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Post by ldotm on Mar 5, 2024 22:48:20 GMT 1
Sorry, thought you had a sense of humour. Hard to judge sarcasm on here. If it was, fair play. |
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Post by workshyfop on Mar 7, 2024 8:47:21 GMT 1
What a brilliantly timed post! 👏🏻😂
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Post by Fisch und Fritten on Mar 7, 2024 9:35:31 GMT 1
Misplaced sense of optimism. It’s not over until the fat lady sings. Moore’s screwed us with his appalling record.
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Post by Morning Norwood on Mar 7, 2024 10:22:52 GMT 1
I personally think we’re gonna get relegated this season. we have a better manager now, but the 4 signings in January are not currently starting games. These were brought in to save our season.
Maybe a step back, clear out and a good rebuild is what’s required. Ipswich done alright out of it currently, but we don’t wanna be in league one more than one season
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Post by runner76 on Mar 7, 2024 10:33:00 GMT 1
I personally think we’re gonna get relegated this season. we have a better manager now, but the 4 signings in January are not currently starting games. These were brought in to save our season. Maybe a step back, clear out and a good rebuild is what’s required. Ipswich done alright out of it currently, but we don’t wanna be in league one more than one season Nah. Just a blip last night. Look at the form table, the optimism and better results since Moore left, the shrinking injury list, the decent new manager……we will stay up no problem. Reckon we will be safe before the last couple games….. |
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Post by Morning Norwood on Mar 7, 2024 10:43:40 GMT 1
Not feeling your optimism at mo, but a win or two can change that. Squad clearly not good enough though
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Post by orinoco on Mar 7, 2024 12:09:22 GMT 1
Taking nothing for granted until mathematically safe, but even though we're closer to the drop now than at any stage during the season, weirdly I'm more confident than ever of staying up. As for complacency - as long as the players and head coach aren't complacent (& I've no reason to believe they would be!) I don't care if fans are. So many teams are trying to avoid the last 2 dreaded relegation spots, apart from a couple of weeks we have seemed to have made 21st spot our own, with countless times the team in 22nd have cocked up trying to displace us!!, it's out of our hands once again until Sunday. The massive will start the attempt tomorrow night, will be a lot of score watching by us again over the weekend!!. As long as we have our favourite 21st position when the final whistle blows at Portman Road on the final day!!. |
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Post by kjf4682 on Mar 7, 2024 12:10:17 GMT 1
Burgzorg(make permanent)
Hogg(bit part player next season)
Nakayama(get rid)
Lees(get rid) Jackson(get rid)
Ruffles(get rid)
Ward(get rid)
All players out on loan apart from Ayina
Keep rest
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Post by andyeastleake on Mar 7, 2024 12:12:34 GMT 1
I am convinced that we will be safe this year, now. This thread isn't merely tempting fate. It's like being stood blindfolded with your legs tied open in front of fate saying, "I bet you £100 you can't kick me in the bollocks". It's like 2001 never happened. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Mar 7, 2024 12:20:12 GMT 1
Pretty much agree, but would probably give Lees another year also in a reduced role. I imagine we're waiting on what division we'll be in before deciding on Burgzorg.
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Post by orinoco on Mar 7, 2024 12:22:20 GMT 1
Burgzorg(make permanent) Hogg(bit part player next season) Nakayama(get rid) Lees(get rid) Jackson(get rid) Ruffles(get rid) Ward(get rid) All players out on loan apart from Ayina Keep rest Would also add Harrat and maybe Diarra to that list, all the players out on loan also, Burgzorg is starting to divide the fans, He is a skilful player no doubting that, but 1 comment hit the nail on the head, like a greedy kid in the playground!!. It's up to the manager whether he sees him as a prospect or not, we need a fresh start, got a new owner, new manager, we have some good players but some very average players, to try and compete higher up in the league things need to change, a big summer ahead what ever league we are in. |
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Post by joburgjon on Mar 7, 2024 12:43:30 GMT 1
Get rid
Chapman
Ruffles
Turton
Yuta
Wiles
High
Mahoney
Austerfiled
Rowe
Rhodes
Hudlin
Ward
KEEP
Nicholls
Maxwell
Spencer
Headley
Jackson
Pearson
Helik
Balker
Lees
Ayina (loan)
Hogg
Rudoni
Kasumu
Matos (back on loan for a season)
Diarra (but I think they will let him go)
Iorpenda (send on loan)
Koroma
Thomas
Jones
Burgzorg
Radulovic
Healey
Harratt (Send on loan)
Simpson (send on loan)
Phillips (send on loan)
Probably need a new starting Midfielder and 2 more for squad depth. A new starting Striker. A full back who can play both sides and a 3rd choice keeper
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Mar 7, 2024 12:58:02 GMT 1
Easy to say, but many will be on decent contracts and won't get the equivalent offered elsewhere.
Not that easy to "get rid".
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 7, 2024 14:16:22 GMT 1
Lose on Sunday and my gut feeling is we will be relegated. When we were winning and playing well we barely moved an inch in the table. Now we are hanging on to 4th bottom by a thread. Last night's performance was possibly the worst we could have turned in. I can understand being turgid against a team aiming for promotion or fighting for their lives but Cardiff have absolutely nothing to play for.
They will have set up expecting us to get at them from the off and when we didn't they took advantage. The only time we have looked good all season is when we play front foot attacking football and last night was exactly the time for that.
That performance was beyond dreadful, negligent almost and it absolutely has to improve on Sunday otherwise as someone above has said, all that momentum and enthusiasm will be down the pan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2024 14:39:18 GMT 1
Lose on Sunday and my gut feeling is we will be relegated. When we were winning and playing well we barely moved an inch in the table. Now we are hanging on to 4th bottom by a thread. Last night's performance was possibly the worst we could have turned in. I can understand being turgid against a team aiming for promotion or fighting for their lives but Cardiff have absolutely nothing to play for. They will have set up expecting us to get at them from the off and when we didn't they took advantage. The only time we have looked good all season is when we play front foot attacking football and last night was exactly the time for that. That performance was beyond dreadful, negligent almost and it absolutely has to improve on Sunday otherwise as someone above has said, all that momentum and enthusiasm will be down the pan. Despite all the above, we SHOULD have won last night. Two golden chances that on another day may have gone in, no more difficult, or easier than the two Ward scored at Watford. The game was crap last night, but we were not second best. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 7, 2024 15:06:35 GMT 1
Easy to say, but many will be on decent contracts and won't get the equivalent offered elsewhere. Not that easy to "get rid". If we are relegated then I think you can guarantee all of Thomas, Helik and Rudoni would be gone. We might need to sell one or two in Summer anyway if we survive to meet FFP obligations, espeically if they want to move. |
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Mar 7, 2024 17:04:06 GMT 1
Hopefully they've all got good relegation clauses in their contracts or we're screwed. As for coming straight back up I wouldn't put money on it. We'll probably adopt the good old we need to consolidate approach
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Post by goodbet on Mar 7, 2024 18:06:15 GMT 1
Misplaced sense of optimism. It’s not over until the fat lady sings. Moore’s screwed us with his appalling record. It was Town's management who got rid of a decent manager and brought in DM. It was Town's management who could not see what a complete waste of space DM was and kept him on far too long. Supported by a number of idiots on here who want to appear to be in the know. Town's management let DM to be involved in the January signings and we are just finding out how well that went. All we need now is Castlehill telling us it was all down to Warnock. Moore did screw us but he had lots of help allong the way. |
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Post by terrier17 on Mar 7, 2024 19:08:45 GMT 1
Christ, we have a load of bed wetters on here!
Just to point out, the same time last year with 10 to go we were 6 points adrift. I would argue at this point in time now, we have a far better chance of staying up this season than we did then. The run in is a lot better, I would argue we have a better squad and we are still above the dotted line (Just!).
Also, added in to the fact there is a hell of a lot more teams involved, with a high number of fixtures down in the bottom half against each other.
Plenty of twist and turns to come, yesterday being one of them! UTT!
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 7, 2024 19:41:42 GMT 1
Christ, we have a load of bed wetters on here! Just to point out, the same time last year with 10 to go we were 6 points adrift. I would argue at this point in time now, we have a far better chance of staying up this season than we did then. The run in is a lot better, I would argue we have a better squad and we are still above the dotted line (Just!). Also, added in to the fact there is a hell of a lot more teams involved, with a high number of fixtures down in the bottom half against each other. Plenty of twist and turns to come, yesterday being one of them! UTT! And it all starts tomorrow night again with Wendy’s and Leeds clashing... Another huge day on Saturday wanting and hoping and praying that it goes well as it certainly did on Tuesday night if not quite Wednesday evening and then it’s all in our very own hands on the Sunday afternoon - Exciting - Hell Aye... Nerve Wracking - Yep, For Sure... Soul Destroying - Not quite at that stage yet... We are where we are - And I think we might just have enough but possibly only just enough to survive, but survive we will - It’s been a reasonable start for Andre - a great win at Watford, a very creditable draw v a decent Leeds side (no matter how much it pains me to say it) and a stumble last night against a team possibly on the beech but nonetheless a team above HTAFC in the league on the beech... Strap yourselves in - Enjoy and relax to some neutral European Footy tonight as Matchday 37’s fixture clashes are just around the corner ! 😊 |
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Post by Wingman on Mar 7, 2024 22:03:51 GMT 1
Get rid Chapman Ruffles Turton ………… Probably need a new starting Midfielder and 2 more for squad depth. A new starting Striker. A full back who can play both sides and a 3rd choice keeper Not that my opinion will make a difference as the club will have an idea who they will be jettisoning and who they’ll be asking to stay, but…. Chapman send on loan Ruffles get rid Turton. Keep hold Yuta Get rid Wiles Keep hold High. Get rid Mahoney Get rid Austerfield Get rid Rowe Get rid Rhodes Get rid Hudlin Get rid Ward Get rid Nicholls Keep hold Maxwell Keep hold Spencer Keep hold Headley Keep hold Jackson Unsure…loan? Pearson Keep hold Helik Keep hold Balker Keep hold Lees Get rid Ayina (loan) Get rid Hogg Keep hold Rudoni Keep hold Kasumu Keep hold Matos (back on loan for a season) Diarra likely to leave anyhow Iorpenda (send on loan) Koroma Keep hold Thomas Keep hold Jones Send on loan Burgzorg Unsure. £1m could be better spent? Radulovic Unsure Healey Unsure Harratt Loan/get rid Simpson Get rid Phillips Get rid Yes, as suggested it’s not that simple to ‘get rid’ but we have a Sporting Director whose job it is to facilitate these moves so crack on Cartwright. |
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Post by ringdisco on Mar 10, 2024 14:19:38 GMT 1
Lovely jinx, Gags....haha
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Mar 10, 2024 14:49:26 GMT 1
Who will be manager next season out of interest if/when we go down, assuming Andre won't want to manage in League one?
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Mar 10, 2024 14:51:04 GMT 1
We need results to go our way. But, I've seen enough of what we're trying to do, to believe that we're going to pick up some points between now and end of the season. Whether it's enough is a different story. I still remain to think it will take 53/54 points to stay up.
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