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Post by terriers2000 on Mar 16, 2024 21:37:44 GMT 1
Has it not dawned on people that the players should take some responsibility? Players like Pearson and Rudoni today awful again, haven’t these players not learned owt from last season or to pass a ball properly
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Post by stinkypete on Mar 16, 2024 21:44:57 GMT 1
Absolute drama queens most of you lot! Relax ffs and I’m yet to see any I out from you except comments like this? Funny that. In English please |
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Mar 16, 2024 21:49:26 GMT 1
and I’m yet to see any I out from you except comments like this? Funny that. In English please *input you’re quick to jump in and say things but never back any of it up? |
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Mar 16, 2024 21:51:08 GMT 1
Has it not dawned on people that the players should take some responsibility? Players like Pearson and Rudoni today awful again, haven’t these players not learned owt from last season or to pass a ball properly yet to see anyone say the players aren’t the issue too, the problem with Andre is he isn’t even trying to change it like today..he worryingly just shoves Tom Edwards on 😆 |
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Post by stinkypete on Mar 16, 2024 21:54:15 GMT 1
Absolute drama queens most of you lot! Relax ffs We've not been relegated today, despite an incredibly disappointing result. However, aren't you concerned Pete? Surely our league position and, more importantly, our recent performances is cause for justified concern? Oh yeah I’m massively concerned, I’ve an awful feeling this is the year we’ll drop (typically when we appear to have an owner that will back us), but getting on the managers back after a few games is pathetic. Maybe it’s time we vented our anger at “the hottest prospect outside the premier league “ in Rudoni!! This kid is massively overrated, can’t shoot, weak as piss and fluffs every opportunity when in a decent position! Second half today, drives into the area , SQUARE IT OF FUCKING SHOOT!!!, no he takes a shite second touch into the path of the defender!! About time the players took responsibility and stop hiding behind the manager! |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 16, 2024 21:55:31 GMT 1
Think a lot of town fans knew today was going to be a close nil nil or a close ne nill victory . Rotherham don’t lose at home by more than one goal ( or at least rarely) . We haven’t got enough class infront of goal to be too much of a danger to any team in this division. People having a go at the manager are unbelievably impatient. The team isnwjere it should be fighting off relegation. Give AB a decent crack if we go down let him re build , we as a fan base just need more realistic thoughts until changes are made. They were always going to be a tough nut defensively today. After two shellackings in a row, they were playing for pride. Back to basics, keep it tight, defend for lives, don't give anything away. T'was ever thus. And I completely agree with that second paragraph. You can't turn on a manager after 5 games and he's not revolutionised a club from top to bottom in a new league and new country. The impatience with football fans gets ridiculous. It isn't even like in said 5 games we have been outclassed, 20 minutes against West Brom aside. Better finishing against Cardiff, you're talking about at least a point. Linesman puts his flag up in time and the ref spots a foul against West Brom, potential different outcome. Penalty given today and nerves settle and it's a different game. The uncontrollables for a manager are as important as the controllables, and he's unfortunately arrived at a time when the club is unlucky in those uncontrollables. Equally, he can have the perfect plan, but if a player misses a sitter or has a rush of blood to the head, it's hardly at his door. Excellent post |
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Post by jjamez on Mar 16, 2024 21:56:22 GMT 1
If town want to progress we need to move on from Hogg, Pearson, lees and ward. All aren't good enough for this division and no where near good enough if we are to be wanting promotion as kev says, basically over the hill. How many would end up at a championship club if they left us? None. Pearson and ward would probably wind up in league one somewhere, Hogg would retire to take up fishing and lees probably league one if he wanted to continue. If we go down I'd potentially keep Pearson and that's probably it. Lees at time this season has looked like he's running through treacle. ward is injury prone and not effective enough
I'd argue for getting rid of koroma too, one trick pony and seems to be slower than he used to be, a decent defender makes him ineffective, a quicker defender makes him ineffective, I'd keep him if we went down but if we stay up I'd be looking for and wanting better.
Diarra and Nakayama can also go for me, regardless of division, headley I'd loan out in the hope for a Spencer effect.
We have to really get into rudoni's head and find his proper position, I don't get why to some he's the golden boy, he really isn't. He's not quick enough or skillful enough to be a winger, he's not creative enough or clinical enough to be an attacking midfielder, neigh on everything he touches around the 18yard box turns to shit.
I think kasumu has a future, we just need to get a composed head in midfield alongside him, to replace Hogg I'd still want tenacity, but I'd sacrifice a bit of it, in return for a someone more comfortable on the ball.
Manager wise, I still think Andre has something he just needs to keep us up by any means possible and then get backed to improve the squad substantially
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 16, 2024 21:58:52 GMT 1
Why are we playing left footed Rudoni on the right and right footed Kasumo on the left ? Why does Grealish play on the left and Foden on the right? Because they can play in those positions, Rudoni and Kasumo can’t . |
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 16, 2024 21:59:51 GMT 1
Why does Grealish play on the left and Foden on the right? Because they can play in those positions, Rudoni and Kasumo can’t . It's Kasumu. I could let it slip on your first post but the second I just can't resist. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 16, 2024 22:02:43 GMT 1
They were always going to be a tough nut defensively today. After two shellackings in a row, they were playing for pride. Back to basics, keep it tight, defend for lives, don't give anything away. T'was ever thus. And I completely agree with that second paragraph. You can't turn on a manager after 5 games and he's not revolutionised a club from top to bottom in a new league and new country. The impatience with football fans gets ridiculous. It isn't even like in said 5 games we have been outclassed, 20 minutes against West Brom aside. Better finishing against Cardiff, you're talking about at least a point. Linesman puts his flag up in time and the ref spots a foul against West Brom, potential different outcome. Penalty given today and nerves settle and it's a different game. The uncontrollables for a manager are as important as the controllables, and he's unfortunately arrived at a time when the club is unlucky in those uncontrollables. Equally, he can have the perfect plan, but if a player misses a sitter or has a rush of blood to the head, it's hardly at his door. Hand in heart did you expect him to go 4 3 3 today. I wanted him to but knew he wouldn’t. Warnock and Worthington had clarity so far André has no cohesive plan that for me is worrying. Or maybe he has a plan but not the players to execute it, so has to find compromises. Give the man a chance. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 16, 2024 22:04:09 GMT 1
Because they can play in those positions, Rudoni and Kasumo can’t . It's Kasumu. I could let it slip on your first post but the second I just can't resist. Never mind, I’m sure you’ll recover from your outbreak of pedantic immateriality. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 16, 2024 22:04:26 GMT 1
Hand in heart did you expect him to go 4 3 3 today. I wanted him to but knew he wouldn’t. Warnock and Worthington had clarity so far André has no cohesive plan that for me is worrying. Or maybe he has a plan but not the players to execute it, so has to find compromises. Give the man a chance. You have to agree though, we have gone backwards in the last 3 games. |
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 16, 2024 22:04:50 GMT 1
It's Kasumu. I could let it slip on your first post but the second I just can't resist. Never mind, I’m sure you’ll recover from your outbreak of pedantic immateriality. I have, thanks 🤣 |
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Post by Floyds on Mar 16, 2024 22:05:49 GMT 1
Hand in heart did you expect him to go 4 3 3 today. I wanted him to but knew he wouldn’t. Warnock and Worthington had clarity so far André has no cohesive plan that for me is worrying. Or maybe he has a plan but not the players to execute it, so has to find compromises. Give the man a chance. Good job we’re in a position to allow him loads of time to get these ideas across 👌 |
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Post by htafcdreams on Mar 16, 2024 22:08:59 GMT 1
I don’t post very often but I had to this evening.
Incredible 3 x games under Andre.
Tactically been absolutely dross.
As mentioned in earlier posts.
3 centrebacks and then 2 x defensive midfielders infront of them against a poor side.
Sorba in the middle. Andre talked about poor crosses by Spencer etc. Plays one of the best crosser in the league in the middle.
Weve hardly any width on the pitch.
Andre seems to have nullified our strengths.
Pearson back to smashing it up field to opposition all game.
No ability to build in the middle of the park.
Young players look devoid of confidence under Andre after running thro brick walls under Worthy.
Got to laugh at keeping Ward and Koroma on bench.
Just need Radulavic sat next to them.
He’s a great talker Andre, it’s looking Darren Moore 2.0
Time to send Andre on holiday till next season after last 3 games.
Worthy to just manage things to end of season. Worthy has an idea where to play the players and the players give it their all.
Be a laugh if we put season ticket prices up after this calamity of a season by those in charge.
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Post by wildhogg on Mar 16, 2024 22:12:10 GMT 1
Same old issue today. We don't have anyone in central midfield who can put their foot on it and pick a pass; meaning that our front players and widemen very rarely get any decent ball to work with. Still can't believe we didn't bring anyone in to fill what was/is a glaringly obvious gap during January.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 16, 2024 22:19:26 GMT 1
Too soon to judge the new manager. He is trying to implement his style.
That’s the worrying part. We don’t have time to do that. I
Midfield were shocking today.
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 16, 2024 22:24:01 GMT 1
Or maybe he has a plan but not the players to execute it, so has to find compromises. Give the man a chance. You have to agree though, we have gone backwards in the last 3 games. Teams have good and bad spells. We had a decent spell after coming out from under Moore. We're in a worse spell now. I'm not hitting any panic buttons on the basis of three games under a new manager where things haven't quite gone right. I disagree with some of his decisions, but I'm not calling for the man's head because he hasn't won every game. A quick fix in football is rare. We got lucky with Warnock last season, but even then it took him a few games to get us going. He won one of his first five before things clicked in a mad spell against Middlesbrough. He's a manager who knows the division inside out and is a known quantity to the players, and vice versa. Even then, it took a bit of luck to get things going - the equaliser against Middlesbrough was a fantastic goal, but it owed as much to luck as tenacity and skill. Until then, many people were questioning the wisdom of bringing him in as there had been no instant uplift, the football was dire, and we were adrift. We are on our sixth manager in under two years. It's ridiculous. |
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Post by bleaklow on Mar 16, 2024 22:34:22 GMT 1
As many on here have said, I couldn't understand why Ward didn't replace B for at least the last 10mins as our 'runner into brick walls' must have been weary, and the shape
would have been the same - plus what has Matos done wrong. But we must remember that Rotherham can be pretty good at home as seen by their performances against Norwich and Leeds
showed. They look to have 2 or 3 tricky and pacey players, especially on their left - and remember how they hit the post early on - it looked to be going in. And some idiots on
here can't help giving Rudoni some stick, at least he gives 100% every game. But our manager definitely got it wrong today! Also what's wrong with giving Jones 15 minutes when the
opposition are tiring?
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Post by boooothy on Mar 16, 2024 22:34:59 GMT 1
Went into the last 3 games wanting/expecting 5/6/7 points, we’ve got 1.
8 games to save ourselves, 7 really cause we don’t want to need anything from Ipswich.
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Post by workshyfop on Mar 16, 2024 22:36:34 GMT 1
You have to agree though, we have gone backwards in the last 3 games. Teams have good and bad spells. We had a decent spell after coming out from under Moore. We're in a worse spell now. I'm not hitting any panic buttons on the basis of three games under a new manager where things haven't quite gone right. I disagree with some of his decisions, but I'm not calling for the man's head because he hasn't won every game. A quick fix in football is rare. We got lucky with Warnock last season, but even then it took him a few games to get us going. He won one of his first five before things clicked in a mad spell against Middlesbrough. He's a manager who knows the division inside out and is a known quantity to the players, and vice versa. Even then, it took a bit of luck to get things going - the equaliser against Middlesbrough was a fantastic goal, but it owed as much to luck as tenacity and skill. Until then, many people were questioning the wisdom of bringing him in as there had been no instant uplift, the football was dire, and we were adrift. We are on our sixth manager in under two years. It's ridiculous. It’s almost as if (and I realise I’ve been repeating this for a while) the players aren’t up to scratch at this level. 🤔 |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 16, 2024 22:36:41 GMT 1
You have to agree though, we have gone backwards in the last 3 games. Teams have good and bad spells. We had a decent spell after coming out from under Moore. We're in a worse spell now. I'm not hitting any panic buttons on the basis of three games under a new manager where things haven't quite gone right. I disagree with some of his decisions, but I'm not calling for the man's head because he hasn't won every game. A quick fix in football is rare. We got lucky with Warnock last season, but even then it took him a few games to get us going. He won one of his first five before things clicked in a mad spell against Middlesbrough. He's a manager who knows the division inside out and is a known quantity to the players, and vice versa. Even then, it took a bit of luck to get things going - the equaliser against Middlesbrough was a fantastic goal, but it owed as much to luck as tenacity and skill. Until then, many people were questioning the wisdom of bringing him in as there had been no instant uplift, the football was dire, and we were adrift. We are on our sixth manager in under two years. It's ridiculous. I agree with everything you say but we can't afford a bad spell. I know we're in the relegation fight because of the lack of quality in the squad but today you have to question why Ward and Koroma aren't thrown on in all out attack despite being down to 10 men. He's probably not made the subs to stop Rotherham breaking away and scoring as it really would be carnage on here had that happened and Rotherham had won 1 nil. The thing is no one has broken away today at the bottom, in fact not one of the teams in the relegation battle has even scored today, despite the terrible result today, its still in our own hands. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 16, 2024 22:50:07 GMT 1
Teams have good and bad spells. We had a decent spell after coming out from under Moore. We're in a worse spell now. I'm not hitting any panic buttons on the basis of three games under a new manager where things haven't quite gone right. I disagree with some of his decisions, but I'm not calling for the man's head because he hasn't won every game. A quick fix in football is rare. We got lucky with Warnock last season, but even then it took him a few games to get us going. He won one of his first five before things clicked in a mad spell against Middlesbrough. He's a manager who knows the division inside out and is a known quantity to the players, and vice versa. Even then, it took a bit of luck to get things going - the equaliser against Middlesbrough was a fantastic goal, but it owed as much to luck as tenacity and skill. Until then, many people were questioning the wisdom of bringing him in as there had been no instant uplift, the football was dire, and we were adrift. We are on our sixth manager in under two years. It's ridiculous. I agree with everything you say but we can't afford a bad spell. I know we're in the relegation fight because of the lack of quality in the squad but today you have to question why Ward and Koroma aren't thrown on in all out attack despite being down to 10 men. He's probably not made the subs to stop Rotherham breaking away and scoring as it really would be carnage on here had that happened and Rotherham had won 1 nil. The thing is no one has broken away today at the bottom, in fact not one of the teams in the relegation battle has even scored today, despite the terrible result today, its still in our own hands. Not disagreeing with that either. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Throw on attacking subs with 10 men, lose 1-0, get pilloried as his subs cost the game against bottom of the league. Don't do it to ensure a point, but damned for being too conservative. In the end, we got a point, which is better than nothing after a significant spell down to 10. After his subs lost control for a spell last week, and our lack of composure in possession was exposed so badly, I don't think it was the worst move in the world, even if it wasn't what I think we should have done. It was a poor result today, I'm sure we're also in agreement there. As you say, nobody has broken clear. It wasn't a disaster, we still got a point (and first-half scare aside never really sounded to be under real threat) despite being down to 10 for as long as we were. Certainly not meltdown material! |
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Post by loumacari on Mar 16, 2024 22:54:54 GMT 1
Same old issue today. We don't have anyone in central midfield who can put their foot on it and pick a pass; meaning that our front players and widemen very rarely get any decent ball to work with. Still can't believe we didn't bring anyone in to fill what was/is a glaringly obvious gap during January. Anyone watching 3 or more of our games in the last few years would have instantly seen we needed someone to dictate play in midfield and pass the ball. It’s unfathomable that people paid hundreds of thousands of pounds a year haven’t been able to see that and rectify the position. There will be players in League One and Two that would be far better than what we’ve got and probably available on free transfers. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Mar 16, 2024 22:55:21 GMT 1
They were always going to be a tough nut defensively today. After two shellackings in a row, they were playing for pride. Back to basics, keep it tight, defend for lives, don't give anything away. T'was ever thus. And I completely agree with that second paragraph. You can't turn on a manager after 5 games and he's not revolutionised a club from top to bottom in a new league and new country. The impatience with football fans gets ridiculous. It isn't even like in said 5 games we have been outclassed, 20 minutes against West Brom aside. Better finishing against Cardiff, you're talking about at least a point. Linesman puts his flag up in time and the ref spots a foul against West Brom, potential different outcome. Penalty given today and nerves settle and it's a different game. The uncontrollables for a manager are as important as the controllables, and he's unfortunately arrived at a time when the club is unlucky in those uncontrollables. Equally, he can have the perfect plan, but if a player misses a sitter or has a rush of blood to the head, it's hardly at his door. Hand in heart did you expect him to go 4 3 3 today. I wanted him to but knew he wouldn’t. Warnock and Worthington had clarity so far André has no cohesive plan that for me is worrying. He’s doing a Darren, trying to ensure a point. It worries me too, because it’s probably way too late in the season for safety play. What is really odd is that he doubled down with a poorly performing group instead of bringing on several subs. Losing Thomas at 58 made him lose his nerve. We’re now more likely to drop than not, way too many chickens came home to roost,but I hope Brighton-Writer stays and helps us start over again. |
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Post by benhomly on Mar 16, 2024 22:57:18 GMT 1
I don’t post very often but I had to this evening. Incredible 3 x games under Andre. Tactically been absolutely dross. As mentioned in earlier posts. 3 centrebacks and then 2 x defensive midfielders infront of them against a poor side. Sorba in the middle. Andre talked about poor crosses by Spencer etc. Plays one of the best crosser in the league in the middle. Weve hardly any width on the pitch. Andre seems to have nullified our strengths. Pearson back to smashing it up field to opposition all game. No ability to build in the middle of the park. Young players look devoid of confidence under Andre after running thro brick walls under Worthy. Got to laugh at keeping Ward and Koroma on bench. Just need Radulavic sat next to them. He’s a great talker Andre, it’s looking Darren Moore 2.0Time to send Andre on holiday till next season after last 3 games. Worthy to just manage things to end of season. Worthy has an idea where to play the players and the players give it their all. Be a laugh if we put season ticket prices up after this calamity of a season by those in charge. UTT You think Darren Moore was a great talker? Mmmmm..... |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 16, 2024 22:57:57 GMT 1
I can't bear the thought of having to play in the Johnstones paint trophy against Leeds United U21s. These players are bottle jobs
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 16, 2024 23:08:35 GMT 1
Said it last week and I’ll say it again, I don’t think being relegated will necessarily be that bad for us with this new owner. Its probably the reality check that we need.
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Post by eric on Mar 16, 2024 23:18:27 GMT 1
Unforgivable not to play Matos.
Worthy had the team playing well - all the new boss had to do was build on that.
Unfortunately, Andre seems to be intent on doing everything the hard way.
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 16, 2024 23:20:27 GMT 1
I agree with everything you say but we can't afford a bad spell. I know we're in the relegation fight because of the lack of quality in the squad but today you have to question why Ward and Koroma aren't thrown on in all out attack despite being down to 10 men. He's probably not made the subs to stop Rotherham breaking away and scoring as it really would be carnage on here had that happened and Rotherham had won 1 nil. The thing is no one has broken away today at the bottom, in fact not one of the teams in the relegation battle has even scored today, despite the terrible result today, its still in our own hands. Not disagreeing with that either. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Throw on attacking subs with 10 men, lose 1-0, get pilloried as his subs cost the game against bottom of the league. Don't do it to ensure a point, but damned for being too conservative. In the end, we got a point, which is better than nothing after a significant spell down to 10. After his subs lost control for a spell last week, and our lack of composure in possession was exposed so badly, I don't think it was the worst move in the world, even if it wasn't what I think we should have done. It was a poor result today, I'm sure we're also in agreement there. As you say, nobody has broken clear. It wasn't a disaster, we still got a point (and first-half scare aside never really sounded to be under real threat) despite being down to 10 for as long as we were. Certainly not meltdown material! An excellent balanced opinion |
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