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Post by harrychrishner on Mar 16, 2024 23:22:44 GMT 1
Bright an' right, er? Dull and wrong!
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Post by Ibiza Town on Mar 16, 2024 23:56:11 GMT 1
We've not been relegated today, despite an incredibly disappointing result. However, aren't you concerned Pete? Surely our league position and, more importantly, our recent performances is cause for justified concern? Oh yeah I’m massively concerned, I’ve an awful feeling this is the year we’ll drop (typically when we appear to have an owner that will back us), but getting on the managers back after a few games is pathetic. Maybe it’s time we vented our anger at “the hottest prospect outside the premier league “ in Rudoni!! This kid is massively overrated, can’t shoot, weak as piss and fluffs every opportunity when in a decent position! Second half today, drives into the area , SQUARE IT OF FUCKING SHOOT!!!, no he takes a shite second touch into the path of the defender!! About time the players took responsibility and stop hiding behind the manager! He had a howler today Should have been subbed on 60 mins, even though we had 10 men Hence the venting at AB
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Post by softboy on Mar 17, 2024 0:04:40 GMT 1
All the players are frustrated by AB negative tactics. You could see that. Under DM we had a 50/50 chance of staying up. No chance now
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Post by gbow on Mar 17, 2024 0:08:08 GMT 1
Under DM we had zero chance of staying up
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Post by paderbornterrier on Mar 17, 2024 0:36:06 GMT 1
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Post by paderbornterrier on Mar 17, 2024 0:37:43 GMT 1
Quick message from the owners ... how do you feel about season cards at £400 a go next season? I'll vote with my 8 feet.
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Post by paderbornterrier on Mar 17, 2024 0:51:25 GMT 1
Beat 11 andre... pick them every week
Nichols Spencer helik baulker Headley Kassumu matos Sorba Rudoni koroma Burgzorg
How fucking hard is it to realise that.
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Post by wigster on Mar 17, 2024 0:52:21 GMT 1
Same old issue today. We don't have anyone in central midfield who can put their foot on it and pick a pass; meaning that our front players and widemen very rarely get any decent ball to work with. Still can't believe we didn't bring anyone in to fill what was/is a glaringly obvious gap during January. As usual recently it's Rudoni who is getting all the criticism whilst Kasumu is judged by much less exacting standards. Seems to me that Kasumu'sole job is to be nuisance to the opposition, nothing else - his passing is woeful, he can't shoot, head, and he never does anything creative at all. Once you start with Hogg and Kasumu in midfield then it's solely up to Rudoni to be creative. If Thomas doesn't help then we are buggered, particularly if our full backs played like they did today.
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Post by wigster on Mar 17, 2024 0:56:51 GMT 1
Beat 11 andre... pick them every week Nichols Spencer helik baulker Headley Kassumu matos Sorba Rudoni koroma Burgzorg How fucking hard is it to realise that. Berzorg is never a Championship striker in a million years. Just because his main ability is to stop and put his foot on the ball this doesn't compensate for his weaknesses in the air, shooting,end product and, every week, teamwork. Might be a winger, perhaps, but a central striker, never.
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Post by paderbornterrier on Mar 17, 2024 0:58:35 GMT 1
Beat 11 andre... pick them every week Nichols Spencer helik baulker Headley Kassumu matos Sorba Rudoni koroma Burgzorg How fucking hard is it to realise that. Berzorg is never a Championship striker in a million years. Just because his main ability is to stop and put his foot in the ball this doesn't compensate for his weaknesses in the air, shooting and, every week, teamwork. Might be a winger, perhaps, but a central striker, never. How many goals has the nowhere near championship striker scored... less clue than Andre you....
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Post by royrace on Mar 17, 2024 1:00:59 GMT 1
Same old issue today. We don't have anyone in central midfield who can put their foot on it and pick a pass; meaning that our front players and widemen very rarely get any decent ball to work with. Still can't believe we didn't bring anyone in to fill what was/is a glaringly obvious gap during January. As usual recently it's Rudoni who is getting all the criticism whilst Kasumu is judged by much less exacting standards. Seems to me that Kasumu'sole job is to be nuisance to the opposition, nothing else - his passing is woeful, he can't shoot, head, and he never does anything creative at all. Once you start with Hogg and Kasumu in midfield then it's solely up to Rudoni to be creative. If Thomas doesn't help then we are buggered, particularly if our full backs played like they did today. I get your point but Rudoni is starting to look like that skillful lad in your five aside who gets loads of the ball but you're actually much more effective without. His end product is consistently garbage and all of our chances are falling to him. Having said that I wouldn't trust Andre to pick a suitable replacement.
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Post by wildhogg on Mar 17, 2024 1:02:10 GMT 1
Beat 11 andre... pick them every week Nichols Spencer helik baulker Headley Kassumu matos Sorba Rudoni koroma Burgzorg How fucking hard is it to realise that. Berzorg is never a Championship striker in a million years. Just because his main ability is to stop and put his foot on the ball this doesn't compensate for his weaknesses in the air, shooting,end product and, every week, teamwork. Might be a winger, perhaps, but a central striker, never. I agree. I like Burgzorg, but he's not a striker. However, he has to be in the XI as our best striker option because (i) he can actually hit the net once in a while, (ii) Ward is like a ghost in the majority of games he plays, (iii) Healey is injured, and (iv) Radulovic appears to be a wet lettuce and a load of gash.
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Post by willo on Mar 17, 2024 2:45:40 GMT 1
Berzorg is never a Championship striker in a million years. Just because his main ability is to stop and put his foot on the ball this doesn't compensate for his weaknesses in the air, shooting,end product and, every week, teamwork. Might be a winger, perhaps, but a central striker, never. I agree. I like Burgzorg, but he's not a striker. However, he has to be in the XI as our best striker option because (i) he can actually hit the net once in a while, (ii) Ward is like a ghost in the majority of games he plays, (iii) Healey is injured, and (iv) Radulovic appears to be a wet lettuce and a load of gash. Sadly true. Our inability to recruit a striker last summer (again!) has come back to haunt us (again!) so we play Burgzorg up top and he is not a striker. Granted we brought 2 strikers in in January but for the reasons mentioned above, neither are playing currently. If Ward is fit, he or better still Koroma start for me. Neither are prolific but have more idea of where the goal is than anyone out there against Rotherham. Failure to bring either of those 2 on was just criminal.
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Post by belizian on Mar 17, 2024 4:04:18 GMT 1
Matos on signing for Chelsea :""I'm a forward who can play anywhere in the front line. My pace is probably my best attribute, getting into the box and creating chances, it’s a big part of my game."
Nah. We don't need anyone that can do that...leave 'im sat on his arse on the subs bench.
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 17, 2024 5:21:59 GMT 1
Or maybe he has a plan but not the players to execute it, so has to find compromises. Give the man a chance. Good job we’re in a position to allow him loads of time to get these ideas across 👌 Dont forget Carlos started crap but almost got us up, I'm sure we will get over the line this season, then next season hopefully get the squad rebuild we desperately need and see what happens. Meanwhile we put yet another crap season behind us thanking the Lord it is finally over, nothing else us fans can do we will just have to trust in the people employed by the club and just hope and pray or walk away!.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Mar 17, 2024 7:45:26 GMT 1
Too soon to judge the new manager. He is trying to implement his style. That’s the worrying part. We don’t have time to do that. I Midfield were shocking today. I don't think he is. The worry is that he said worthy had started them playing how he wanted but then he's gone full 180. I don't get it. I just genuinely don't get it.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Mar 17, 2024 7:49:18 GMT 1
Matos on signing for Chelsea :""I'm a forward who can play anywhere in the front line. My pace is probably my best attribute, getting into the box and creating chances, it’s a big part of my game." Nah. We don't need anyone that can do that...leave 'im sat on his arse on the subs bench. Matos over rudhoni for me but hogg and rudhoni look like they won't be dropped. I can only think that rudhoni is shit hot in training.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Mar 17, 2024 8:15:35 GMT 1
My view was everyone was a 5 or 6 rating. I couldn't name a MoM as no one stood out so I'll give it to Edwards For example Rudoni was a 5 for me. He was poor with the ball but he did put in a shift - so I'll never slate someone too much who is grafting but it's not coming off Nichols would be a 6 as he did pretty much nothing and his kicking was solid. He was bystander and if I was in goals yesterday I'd have kept a clean sheey Up until now I think AB has done okay. Yesterday was really poor He didn't need 5 defenders against Rotherham - who looked there for the beating. Why step away from 4231 or 433 in that game was strange. We needed to be on the front foot I thought we started flat with no tempo when I thought we'd come up with more intensity (especially after WBA). Seemed like he wanted to dominate possession of the ball (on a bobbling pitch!) ... we've been here before playing from the back with these players and it's not really possible with the likes of Pearson AB use of subs was really poor. It was clear he settled for the point when he left Ward and Koroma on the bench. I think some fresh legs and some extra "bite" from say Matos would have helped. At least it would have shown intent and changed the dynamic ... ie shown Rotherham we were going to "have a go" Until yesterday I felt we'd be okay. My confidence definitely took a massive hit though as that looked like a manager changing away from the things that worked (under Worthy and Warnock) back to a style (play from the back and through the middle) we lack the players to play. We also lacked intensity and a "in your face" attitude which you need in a relegation battle/ 6 pointer game.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Mar 17, 2024 8:51:58 GMT 1
Matos on signing for Chelsea :""I'm a forward who can play anywhere in the front line. My pace is probably my best attribute, getting into the box and creating chances, it’s a big part of my game." Nah. We don't need anyone that can do that...leave 'im sat on his arse on the subs bench. Well he's shown no evidence of any of that. Decent enough in midfield though and you'd think his energy alone would have merited bringing him on when we had 10 men. Clearly not rated by Andre though.
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Post by otterman on Mar 17, 2024 10:19:47 GMT 1
Hard to believe the performance in the first half against WBA last week was the same team. Surely, no matter what the manager says, professional footballers at this level understand what works for them, and to keep doing it. The attitude going into a match against such an abject opponent as Rotherham after the second half against WBA should have reinforced their resolve and made them hungry to lay the ghost of that shocking 45 minutes. I don’t lay any blame at the manager’s door. The players showed little fight and even less intelligence, particularly in the final third. I’ve seen better attitude / application on a sunday pub game, with a bunch of hungover fat lads scrapping like their lives depended on it. And Thomas........ no words.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 17, 2024 10:25:43 GMT 1
The body language is really poor from some of them. Half of them look shattered which makes the decision not to freshen it up even more baffling. You can't tell me that this group are as on board with Andre as they were with Worthy or Warnock.
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Post by bogart on Mar 17, 2024 10:29:30 GMT 1
AB seemed quite happy with the point at the end, which I suppose one could say he should be. Problem is we should not have been in that position in the first place. I have looked at the penalty incident the more I see it, it is one. To be fair to the ref, who like most others are abject, from behind maybe not but the front angle definitely shows connection with Kasumu's legs. Two weeks on the trot VAR would have helped us. I do despair at the general standard of officiating. Last nights Football League Show was a good example. How they arrive at some of their decisions beggars belief.
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Post by digs on Mar 17, 2024 10:40:49 GMT 1
AB was going in about how Sorba said he played the ball for the second yellow,I think it was worth risking a yellow card and taking one for the team,it was a tackle that needed making,but the problem was his stupidity for the first yellow,he does it every game spits his dummy out,just get on with the game Sorba,he was starting to look quite dangerous before his daftness.
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Mar 17, 2024 10:42:05 GMT 1
I can’t help but think we are as good as done now after yesterday. Result. 11 v 11 we were just as poor as them and with the lack of changes we refused to make. AB is starting to worry me now tbh aswell as some of the players body language.
I hope I’m wrong but I really done see where the next 3 points are coming from
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2024 10:43:28 GMT 1
Beat 11 andre... pick them every week Nichols Spencer helik baulker Headley Kassumu matos Sorba Rudoni koroma Burgzorg How fucking hard is it to realise that. Agreed
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Post by pieceofbread1 on Mar 17, 2024 10:55:14 GMT 1
Beat 11 andre... pick them every week Nichols Spencer helik baulker Headley Kassumu matos Sorba Rudoni koroma Burgzorg How fucking hard is it to realise that. Agreed Not tho is it . ? There’s no leaders in that team .
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Post by pieceofbread1 on Mar 17, 2024 10:56:52 GMT 1
Breitenshiter Cartwrong D'Edwards Kev Ne'idea Jobs fucked.... circus in the boardroom, clowns running our club. THEM PESKY FUCKING ORCAS how have they got back into the boardroom . ? Slippery bastards
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Post by griffa on Mar 17, 2024 11:01:39 GMT 1
All the players are frustrated by AB negative tactics. You could see that. Under DM we had a 50/50 chance of staying up. No chance now We were totally doomed under Darren Moore's management/coaching - UTT.
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Post by thomo on Mar 17, 2024 11:03:15 GMT 1
Said it last week and I’ll say it again, I don’t think being relegated will necessarily be that bad for us with this new owner. Its probably the reality check that we need. Really! At best we'll get promoted back at first attempt but end up with a worse side when we're back in the championship. The better players will leave us this summer, we'll sign players for league one and then need to buy a whole squad of championship players if we get back up at first time of asking buy KN doesn't have the financial clout for that.
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 17, 2024 11:06:41 GMT 1
Having seen the game-changing decisions back, we have every right to be aggrieved. Clearly a penalty. First yellow daft, but let’s be honest opponents never get booked for that! The second just isn’t a yellow. How many times are players pulled back with no intent for the ball when the culprit isn’t carded? Sorba goes for the ball and doesn’t get it, so it isn’t in that category, and it isn’t reckless. There’s no grounds for a booking. Very unfair. I suspect it was a bit of revenge from the ref after the earlier booking.
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