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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 29, 2024 20:23:03 GMT 1
The only thing Rudoni has going for him at the moment is that he never hides and he keeps trying. The problem is nothing comes of it, his decision making and his final ball/finishing is poor. Still one of our better players though but that's just testimony to how garbage the rest of them are. I genuinely think that he is far better than any of our players. It's like he is on another wavelength. I think he would contribute a lot more in terms of goals and assistance if he wasn't playing alongside absolute shite Rudoni, Helik and probably Spencer and Thomas are no longer playing simply for us, they are playing for the moves likely to happen after may. Hopefully those 4 or so can play well enough to assist their moves whilst we scrape enough points from somewhere. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 29, 2024 20:25:46 GMT 1
I saw some situations in todays game, that smacked of relegation fodder waiting to happen. All three goals were avoidable and the lack of urgencey and drive in the team was a worry. We didn't play like a team "fighting" for their lives today, in fact we haven't for a while. Everything was too slow and podantic .
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Post by isitjustme on Mar 29, 2024 20:25:53 GMT 1
Today’s result means we can’t make the Play Offs .. !! That's my shot in the dark bet gone then. Would have retired on that.....!!! |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 29, 2024 20:31:32 GMT 1
Where was the fight and energy that we showed in the first half against West brom ? We dont have the talent to escape relegation, we therefore need to bust a gut every game and fight until the last minute.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Mar 29, 2024 20:38:52 GMT 1
One of the Horton seasons, we were 2-0 down against I think Oldham, at home with about 15 to go. Won 3-2. Friday night game on Sky.
I remember that very well. My mate stormed off to the pub at 0-2 down and later on when we joined him there he didn't know what had happened - the look on his face - priceless!
A more recent one was Yeovil at home in the Championship, when Chris Powell managed to destroy Jordan Sinnott's FL career in 20 mins by bringing him on out of position then subbing him off again. 0-2 at half-time, finished 4-2. |
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 29, 2024 20:47:45 GMT 1
The only thing Rudoni has going for him at the moment is that he never hides and he keeps trying. The problem is nothing comes of it, his decision making and his final ball/finishing is poor. Still one of our better players though but that's just testimony to how garbage the rest of them are. I genuinely think that he is far better than any of our players. It's like he is on another wavelength. I think he would contribute a lot more in terms of goals and assistance if he wasn't playing alongside absolute shite He runs a lot, trys to tackle, works hard and can dribble a bit with it at times. But his passing is dier, his finishing is dier,his decision making is generally dier Easily brushed off the ball at times too I don't see the hype I'd drop him against Stoke try something else. #edited for spelling police 😜 |
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Post by stevvy on Mar 29, 2024 20:49:21 GMT 1
You say you'd drop him and try something else....what is that something else that you'd try?
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Post by andyboothscat on Mar 29, 2024 20:51:04 GMT 1
Where was the fight and energy that we showed in the first half against West brom ? We dont have the talent to escape relegation, we therefore need to bust a gut every game and fight until the last minute. And that’s why I’ve accepted relegation now because they either can’t or won’t do the latter. I just think it’s a really sad situatuon really. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 29, 2024 20:53:20 GMT 1
The only thing Rudoni has going for him at the moment is that he never hides and he keeps trying. The problem is nothing comes of it, his decision making and his final ball/finishing is poor. Still one of our better players though but that's just testimony to how garbage the rest of them are. I genuinely think that he is far better than any of our players. It's like he is on another wavelength. I think he would contribute a lot more in terms of goals and assistance if he wasn't playing alongside absolute shite Completely agree. Imagine how good he'd be in a better side. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2024 20:54:33 GMT 1
Hit the frame of the goal twice and had them rocking after the subs came on. Problem is lack of quality. Not playing passes soon enough, hitting them too long or short or just missing the intended target. Players not in the right place to give teammates options.
Headley got stuck in a corner but he was playing right against the line as last man with little or no support, Coventry didn’t get themselves in that position without an out ball. He struggled but he had 2 or 3 men at him.
Rudoni played well but he had a lot to do on his own, corners were a mixed bag though. Improved when Spencer came on, gave him some support. Pat Jones gave us something different, very direct and quick. Both the strikers made an impact as well but obviously not fit enough to start. Burgzorg very frustrating. Forward positioning worse than offside Clyde.
We were undone by quick forward balls again, but they are very good at it. See if we get a bit more luck on Monday.
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Post by Ox Terrier on Mar 29, 2024 20:54:38 GMT 1
I've just said how garbage the rest of them are. Get Rudoni to a properly coached, confident side and his decision making wouldn’t be half as bad. He snatches at chances because after doing all the running, all the passing, all the pressing - he’s the c*** that has to try and score from 30 yards out too. He does everything so it stands out more. I know it’s not you in particular (in fact we probably agree with each other) but fed up of people going after someone who is trying & probably our best player. Burgzorg offside 5 times today and couldn’t even be arsed jogging off when subbed - seen him getting less shit than Rudoni. I half expected the linesman to raise his flag as Burgzorg trudged off. |
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 20:55:34 GMT 1
I genuinely think that he is far better than any of our players. It's like he is on another wavelength. I think he would contribute a lot more in terms of goals and assistance if he wasn't playing alongside absolute shite He runs a lot, trys to tackle, works hard and can dribble a bit with it at times. But his passing is dyer, his finishing is dyer,his decision making is generally dyer Easily brushed off the ball at times too I don't see the hype I'd drop him against Stoke try something else. He’s literally our best player. Name me one player better than him? |
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 29, 2024 21:05:39 GMT 1
You say you'd drop him and try something else....what is that something else that you'd try? Anything as it's not currently working and he is a constant in that. Try wiles,koroma, even matos as an advanced central midfielder. Or go 442 with matos and kasumu in the middle |
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 29, 2024 21:07:18 GMT 1
He runs a lot, trys to tackle, works hard and can dribble a bit with it at times. But his passing is dyer, his finishing is dyer,his decision making is generally dyer Easily brushed off the ball at times too I don't see the hype I'd drop him against Stoke try something else. He’s literally our best player. Name me one player better than him? Thomas for one, Forgot the clubs golden boy was beyond criticism. I've defended him loads even on here but he's not contributing what he should be for what he is in the team for If he was a replacement for hogg running tackling etc then yes but more is needed from someone in his position which he is not providing so time to try something else |
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Post by ACW on Mar 29, 2024 21:08:27 GMT 1
You say you'd drop him and try something else....what is that something else that you'd try? Anything as it's not currently working and he is a constant in that. Try wiles,koroma, even matos as an advanced central midfielder. Or go 442 with matos and kasumu in the middle Wiles has been consistently shit. Far worse than Rudoni. Koroma is not, and never will be, a central midfielder. He was far worse than Rudoni today. Matos and Kasumu in midfield? Absolutely no creativity. IMO all worse options than Rudoni, who is far from our biggest problem. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 29, 2024 21:11:59 GMT 1
I saw some situations in todays game, that smacked of relegation fodder waiting to happen. All three goals were avoidable and the lack of urgencey and drive in the team was a worry. We didn't play like a team "fighting" for their lives today, in fact we haven't for a while. Everything was too slow and podantic . That was most worrying for me, the new coach doesn't seem to have been able to motivate them sufficiently. Without motivation and fight and a siege mentality we're down. Warnock is the master of that and I fear a few of the other teams down there will find a way. Town looked soft as shit today, slow, demotivated, badly coached, unfit and half arsed. |
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Post by 65terrier on Mar 29, 2024 21:13:00 GMT 1
Is can't-be-arsedness a word?
If so it sums up today.
Real apathy from the players, nothing of any inspiration from the manager (considering he's had the opportunity of 2 weeks to implement his ideas with the squad), nothing from the terraces.
You could argue that the people who could be arsed were those who chose to do something different today.
I can't see us doing better than Birmingham over the remainder of the season so I think relegation is inevitable.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Mar 29, 2024 21:13:06 GMT 1
Thomas better than Rudoni? You're having a laugh. Thomas can take a good corner or free kick but that's it. No pace or skill and a bad temperament.
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 21:13:21 GMT 1
He’s literally our best player. Name me one player better than him? Thomas for one, Him and rudoni maybe on a par. Only other close is Helik but his defending has been poor this season. Anyway, dropping Rudoni on Monday would be absolute suicide. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 29, 2024 21:14:17 GMT 1
He runs a lot, trys to tackle, works hard and can dribble a bit with it at times. But his passing is dyer, his finishing is dyer,his decision making is generally dyer Easily brushed off the ball at times too I don't see the hype I'd drop him against Stoke try something else. He’s literally our best player. Name me one player better than him? I agree he's our best player but I'd like to see how they perform without him in the team. Maybe other players would step up and actually produce something. Maybe we'd be even worse. |
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 21:14:45 GMT 1
He’s literally our best player. Name me one player better than him? I agree he's our best player but I'd like to see how they perform without him in the team. Maybe other players would step up and actually produce something. Maybe we'd be even worse. Probs not the time for experimenting! |
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 29, 2024 21:15:58 GMT 1
Anything as it's not currently working and he is a constant in that. Try wiles,koroma, even matos as an advanced central midfielder. Or go 442 with matos and kasumu in the middle Wiles has been consistently shit. Far worse than Rudoni. Koroma is not, and never will be, a central midfielder. He was far worse than Rudoni today. Matos and Kasumu in midfield? Absolutely no creativity. IMO all worse options than Rudoni, who is far from our biggest problem. There's no creativity with rudoni either. Unfortunately we don't have any creative midfielders and haven't had one for a few years. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 29, 2024 21:19:09 GMT 1
Wiles has been consistently shit. Far worse than Rudoni. Koroma is not, and never will be, a central midfielder. He was far worse than Rudoni today. Matos and Kasumu in midfield? Absolutely no creativity. IMO all worse options than Rudoni, who is far from our biggest problem. There's no creativity with rudoni either. Unfortunately we don't have any creative midfielders and haven't had one for a few years. More creativity from Rudoni than the other options. Wiles disappears, Koroma is greedy and Matos/Kasumu are extremely limited on the ball. For all his weaknesses, Rudoni is a team player and is one of the few to actually pass/move. Yes, his final ball/shot is poor, but he knits so much of our better play together. We are shite on the ball with Rudoni in the team. We would be even worse without him. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 29, 2024 21:21:17 GMT 1
Thomas better than Rudoni? You're having a laugh. Thomas can take a good corner or free kick but that's it. No pace or skill and a bad temperament. True but Thomas consistently produces and creates. There's a good chance we'd have got an undeserved draw today with him in the team. I'm a fan of Rudoni but ultimately he produces nothing and we badly need goals and assists. For all the time Rudoni is on the ball, looking skillful and like he might produce something you could maybe have another player or players actually contributing with a goal or assist. I don't remember a player looking so good but with so little productivity either directly or indirectly. Someone cited VLP but he consistently gained us territorial advantage. Rudoni doesn't do that either. He'll probably move to a better championship team when we're relegated and do great but right now in this team it's not happening. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 21:23:40 GMT 1
Thomas better than Rudoni? You're having a laugh. Thomas can take a good corner or free kick but that's it. No pace or skill and a bad temperament. True but Thomas consistently produces and creates. There's a good chance we'd have got an undeserved draw today with him in the team. I'm a fan of Rudoni but ultimately he produces nothing and we badly need goals and assists. For all the time Rudoni is on the ball, looking skillful and like he might produce something you could maybe have another player or players actually contributing with a goal or assist. I don't remember a player looking so good but with so little productivity either directly or indirectly. Someone cited VLP but he consistently gained us territorial advantage. Rudoni doesn't do that either. He'll probably move to a better championship team when we're relegated and do great but right now in this team it's not happening. Rudoni's problem is everything breaks down when he gets to the oppositions box and I say that as a fan of his. |
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 29, 2024 21:28:19 GMT 1
Thomas better than Rudoni? You're having a laugh. Thomas can take a good corner or free kick but that's it. No pace or skill and a bad temperament. True but Thomas consistently produces and creates. There's a good chance we'd have got an undeserved draw today with him in the team. I'm a fan of Rudoni but ultimately he produces nothing and we badly need goals and assists. For all the time Rudoni is on the ball, looking skillful and like he might produce something you could maybe have another player or players actually contributing with a goal or assist. I don't remember a player looking so good but with so little productivity either directly or indirectly. Someone cited VLP but he consistently gained us territorial advantage. Rudoni doesn't do that either. He'll probably move to a better championship team when we're relegated and do great but right now in this team it's not happening. He definitely drags us forwards much better than any other of our midfielders but needs to be better in and around the box |
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Post by ACW on Mar 29, 2024 21:28:47 GMT 1
True but Thomas consistently produces and creates. There's a good chance we'd have got an undeserved draw today with him in the team. I'm a fan of Rudoni but ultimately he produces nothing and we badly need goals and assists. For all the time Rudoni is on the ball, looking skillful and like he might produce something you could maybe have another player or players actually contributing with a goal or assist. I don't remember a player looking so good but with so little productivity either directly or indirectly. Someone cited VLP but he consistently gained us territorial advantage. Rudoni doesn't do that either. He'll probably move to a better championship team when we're relegated and do great but right now in this team it's not happening. Rudoni's problem is everything breaks down when he gets to the oppositions box and I say that as a fan of his. His final ball/shot is poor, but the way he knits our few decent forward moves together is underrated IMO. If he doesn't play then watch our passing in midfield all but disappear. I'd hate to see us relying on Hogg/Matos/Kasumu to move the ball forwards. And many of our other so-called creative players are just greedy. Don't create much because they aren't team players. Want to do it all on their own to the detriment of the team. |
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 29, 2024 21:29:17 GMT 1
Thomas better than Rudoni? You're having a laugh. Thomas can take a good corner or free kick but that's it. No pace or skill and a bad temperament. True but Thomas consistently produces and creates. There's a good chance we'd have got an undeserved draw today with him in the team. I'm a fan of Rudoni but ultimately he produces nothing and we badly need goals and assists. For all the time Rudoni is on the ball, looking skillful and like he might produce something you could maybe have another player or players actually contributing with a goal or assist. I don't remember a player looking so good but with so little productivity either directly or indirectly. Someone cited VLP but he consistently gained us territorial advantage. Rudoni doesn't do that either. He'll probably move to a better championship team when we're relegated and do great but right now in this team it's not happening. Exactly this looks good but produces nothing I'd actually like to see him converting to the hogg type role he can break play, got good energy has better passing ability than hogg.(not saying much I know) He's not a 10/ACM |
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Post by Macduff on Mar 29, 2024 21:30:30 GMT 1
I genuinely think that he is far better than any of our players. It's like he is on another wavelength. I think he would contribute a lot more in terms of goals and assistance if he wasn't playing alongside absolute shite He runs a lot, trys to tackle, works hard and can dribble a bit with it at times. But his passing is dyer, his finishing is dyer,his decision making is generally dyer Easily brushed off the ball at times too I don't see the hype I'd drop him against Stoke try something else. He must be pretty good then if everything he does is as good as Kieran Dyer. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 29, 2024 21:32:33 GMT 1
He runs a lot, trys to tackle, works hard and can dribble a bit with it at times. But his passing is dyer, his finishing is dyer,his decision making is generally dyer Easily brushed off the ball at times too I don't see the hype I'd drop him against Stoke try something else. He must be pretty good then if everything he does is as good as Kieran Dyer. Perhaps he meant Alex Dyer? 😁 |
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