cyberman
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Post by cyberman on Mar 29, 2024 19:03:15 GMT 1
Today’s result means we can’t make the Play Offs .. !! Fuck Oh well - saves on the expensive trip to Wembley - overpriced warm shite beer a biased ref and a set of koonts for opposing fans ! Maybe next year ! |
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Post by terryya on Mar 29, 2024 19:06:00 GMT 1
The only thing Rudoni has going for him at the moment is that he never hides and he keeps trying. The problem is nothing comes of it, his decision making and his final ball/finishing is poor. Still one of our better players though but that's just testimony to how garbage the rest of them are. Name one player whose decision making is better? It's difficult to make a decision when you don't really have any options. If he sorts his finishing he'll be a top player. |
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 19:09:19 GMT 1
Name one player whose decision making is better? I've just said how garbage the rest of them are. Get Rudoni to a properly coached, confident side and his decision making wouldn’t be half as bad. He snatches at chances because after doing all the running, all the passing, all the pressing - he’s the c*** that has to try and score from 30 yards out too. He does everything so it stands out more. I know it’s not you in particular (in fact we probably agree with each other) but fed up of people going after someone who is trying & probably our best player. Burgzorg offside 5 times today and couldn’t even be arsed jogging off when subbed - seen him getting less shit than Rudoni. |
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Post by benhomly on Mar 29, 2024 19:14:49 GMT 1
I've just said how garbage the rest of them are. Get Rudoni to a properly coached, confident side and his decision making wouldn’t be half as bad. He snatches at chances because after doing all the running, all the passing, all the pressing - he’s the c*** that has to try and score from 30 yards out too. He does everything so it stands out more. I know it’s not you in particular (in fact we probably agree with each other) but fed up of people going after someone who is trying & probably our best player. Burgzorg offside 5 times today and couldn’t even be arsed jogging off when subbed - seen him getting less shit than Rudoni. Can't argue with any of that. Think it was Sunderland who were after him at the time he signed for us. Unfortunately for the lad he probably made the wrong decision, he'd be a better player now if he'd gone there. |
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 19:17:34 GMT 1
Get Rudoni to a properly coached, confident side and his decision making wouldn’t be half as bad. He snatches at chances because after doing all the running, all the passing, all the pressing - he’s the c*** that has to try and score from 30 yards out too. He does everything so it stands out more. I know it’s not you in particular (in fact we probably agree with each other) but fed up of people going after someone who is trying & probably our best player. Burgzorg offside 5 times today and couldn’t even be arsed jogging off when subbed - seen him getting less shit than Rudoni. Can't argue with any of that. Think it was Sunderland who were after him at the time he signed for us. Unfortunately for the lad he probably made the wrong decision, he'd be a better player now if he'd gone there. We’ll sell him in summer for a few million and I’m certain he’ll go on to the premier league within a few years. A lot of our fans don’t know a good player when they see one. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 19:19:06 GMT 1
Name one player whose decision making is better? They are all just as inept as each other at decision making and general attacking play I would agree. There was a minute in thd 2nd half where 2 players made the wrong decision in key areas of the pitch, one was ghd much vaunted Rudoni and thd other Matos. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 29, 2024 19:20:03 GMT 1
Thanks for putting "Rudoni shocking again" at the top so you don't need to read the rest. The only thing Rudoni has going for him at the moment is that he never hides and he keeps trying. The problem is nothing comes of it, his decision making and his final ball/finishing is poor. Still one of our better players though but that's just testimony to how garbage the rest of them are. For all he looks our best player most games and everything goes through him, I'm starting to wonder if we'd be better off without him in the team. Nothing he does ever seems to come off! Is there an opportunity cost there? Would other players step up, create and actually deliver if we didn't look such a one man team? Today was awful, looks like AB hasn't been able to improve anything at all, in fact we look a lot worse. They was obviously the risk with going for a coach without a track record aligned with the mess we're in. Might the the final nail in Cartwright's coffin. Balker injured again, Bojan looks completely unsuited to the English game. I think it's fair to say Kevin's £4M hasn't had the desired effect. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 19:20:30 GMT 1
Can't argue with any of that. Think it was Sunderland who were after him at the time he signed for us. Unfortunately for the lad he probably made the wrong decision, he'd be a better player now if he'd gone there. We’ll sell him in summer for a few million and I’m certain he’ll go on to the premier league within a few years. A lot of our fans don’t know a good player when they see one. If we're League One we'll have to as he won't want to be hanging around with us no marks. |
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cyberman
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Post by cyberman on Mar 29, 2024 19:22:46 GMT 1
Can't argue with any of that. Think it was Sunderland who were after him at the time he signed for us. Unfortunately for the lad he probably made the wrong decision, he'd be a better player now if he'd gone there. We’ll sell him in summer for a few million and I’m certain he’ll go on to the premier league within a few years. A lot of our fans don’t know a good player when they see one. Cartwright included ! |
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Post by stevvy on Mar 29, 2024 19:22:54 GMT 1
Out of curiosity, has anyone listened to what AB said post match? Can't be arsed listening (mainly cos I'm not interested in videos, I just want to read what he said, but the club have sacked off written versions of interviews this season for some reason, it's either listen or go without)
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Post by royrace on Mar 29, 2024 19:26:04 GMT 1
Out of curiosity, has anyone listened to what AB said post match? Can't be arsed listening (mainly cos I'm not interested in videos, I just want to read what he said, but the club have sacked off written versions of interviews this season for some reason, it's either listen or go without) He said they lost all of their duels first half which is correct... And worrying. Said we were better second half, again correct. He didn't explain why he's been seemingly unable to motivate any of them or get them to pass to one and other and look like a football team. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Mar 29, 2024 19:27:05 GMT 1
Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
We're going to Shrewsbury...
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Post by ACW on Mar 29, 2024 19:28:56 GMT 1
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 19:29:23 GMT 1
We’ll sell him in summer for a few million and I’m certain he’ll go on to the premier league within a few years. A lot of our fans don’t know a good player when they see one. Cartwright included ! Lol - what an absolutely shocking record he has this season. And we’ve spent decent money too. Wiles - crocked Healey - crocked Radulovic - crocked Balker - crocked Trying to be clever and signing players who we think will be a bargain if they don’t get injured, only for them to all be injured most of the time. Fucking embarrassing. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 19:29:52 GMT 1
Out of curiosity, has anyone listened to what AB said post match? Can't be arsed listening (mainly cos I'm not interested in videos, I just want to read what he said, but the club have sacked off written versions of interviews this season for some reason, it's either listen or go without) He said they lost all of their duels first half which is correct... And worrying. Said we were better second half, again correct. He didn't explain why he's been seemingly unable to motivate any of them or get them to pass to one and other and look like a football team. Being able to pass to each has been a huge huge problem at Town for years, aside from Rotherham we are bottom of all the Championship passing stats this season. It drives me nuts that we can make simple passes. |
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Post by jjamez on Mar 29, 2024 19:32:43 GMT 1
Okay maybe I was a touch harsh on rudoni. But this summer there needs to be a huge effort with him to work out what sort of player he wants to be or we want him to be.
For me he isn't quick enough to be a winger, he isn't clinical enough or composed enough to be an attacking midfielder and probably not creative enough to be a playmaker.
That's not to say he can't become any of those. To me he shouldn't be out wide, that leaves, the other two roles. He's probably going to have to sacrifice one of them to put everything in to being the other and it may take something away from his game now, but in return improve the output in the other. For me he'll be more successful in attacking midfield and as such he needs to work on his final third play.
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Post by detox on Mar 29, 2024 19:33:01 GMT 1
Wells back to his shite best in that cameo..the guy looks like he doesn't give a stuff tbh. Aye he's been bloody anonymous since we re-signed him  Oops |
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 29, 2024 19:33:33 GMT 1
Calmed down a bit.
Three awful goals to concede. First goal, just weak all round. Stand off him because we’re scared. Pearson so culpable.
For the second, there’s a foul to set it all off, but we’re then out of position. Headley’s positioning is awful. We back off. We don’t get to them. We don’t pick up runners. We don’t do the basics in transition. Then we look beaten. Only Nicholls has the pride to deliver the bollockings needed to both teammates and officials. There’s 70 yards between the foul and the goal. Multiple chances to deal with it, even if we shouldn’t have to be dealing with it.
Third goal, we’ve conceded that goal multiple times this season - the shift away, the shot across Nicholls, from left to right. It seems to be a weakness. Spencer was naive there, but he had shown fight and played well on coming on. His tackle on Wright earlier was a superb intervention. I said I can excuse much, and Spencer earns a pass - he made a mistake, but it wasn’t because of a lack of effort. He was a youngster up against an £8m forward with a bit of quality.
There were positives in the second half. Healey looked sharp. I enjoyed him putting himself about in the fist minute after he came on. We needed that from minute one, rather than the lack of drive we had. I’m a huge fan of Headley, but he was poor today. Timid is probably the word. Pearson was a walking booking and only escaped through inexplicable refereeing. Burgzorg was downright disgraceful. Too many heads went down, including the captain’s. Defeat was accepted too easily, and only the subs brought us to life.
I know the clamour will be for Pat Jones to start, but I’d still rather see him as an impact sub for now. But he and Healey brought life up front. Matos was the one starter who deserves credit and should be exempt from my earlier cowards comment. Rudoni and Kasumu produced effort. And if we’re going to play Radulovic, we have to get the ball into dangerous areas. He’s not a rough and tumble target man, or a runner in the channels.
Today I changed my mind. I’ve said all season we’ll be fine with a caveat that I might be wrong. I think I’ve been wrong. I think we’re going down. We’re too soft. We lack heart. We have enough quality, but lack in key areas.
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Post by ACW on Mar 29, 2024 19:34:38 GMT 1
He said they lost all of their duels first half which is correct... And worrying. Said we were better second half, again correct. He didn't explain why he's been seemingly unable to motivate any of them or get them to pass to one and other and look like a football team. Being able to pass to each has been a huge huge problem at Town for years, aside from Rotherham we are bottom of all the Championship passing stats this season. It drives me nuts that we can make simple passes. Comes down to two things: 1. Lack of technical ability. 2. Lack of options for the man in possession. We have technically poor players, but how often do they have decent passing options? Contrast us with most other teams who pass/move far better than we do. |
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 19:36:23 GMT 1
Matty Pearson is like a toddler kicking round a balloon after too many fruit shoots
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Post by benhomly on Mar 29, 2024 19:39:05 GMT 1
Matty Pearson is like a toddler kicking round a balloon after too many fruit shoots Careful, he'll be cupping his ear to the Kilner again next time one goes in off his shoulder from a Thomas corner  |
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Post by trotsky on Mar 29, 2024 19:43:12 GMT 1
Trying to remember when we last came back from 2-0 down to win... I can't. Easier to do it if we were in League 1. One of the Horton seasons, we were 2-0 down against I think Oldham, at home with about 15 to go. Won 3-2. Friday night game on Sky.
I remember that very well. My mate stormed off to the pub at 0-2 down and later on when we joined him there he didn't know what had happened - the look on his face - priceless!
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Post by wigster on Mar 29, 2024 19:45:36 GMT 1
All about opinion - for me Jack Rudoni was head and shoulders abve any other Town player today - the ONLY player whose first thought is to go forward, the ONLY player whose play and attitude is positive, and the ONLY Town midfield player who might remotely threated our opponent's goal. Oh, I forgot Kasumu's once-a-season thunderbolt.
Please judge him by the same criteria as you do all the other "midfielders" and strikers, and you'd see he really is streets ahead of all of them.
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Post by detox on Mar 29, 2024 19:50:22 GMT 1
Knowing the limitations of our players, why doesn't AB do a NW, adapt? We need a game plan that better suits the players,at this crucial stage of the season I don't care if that's hoof, or whatever.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Mar 29, 2024 19:55:28 GMT 1
All about opinion - for me Jack Rudoni was head and shoulders abve any other Town player today - the ONLY player whose first thought is to go forward, the ONLY player whose play and attitude is positive, and the ONLY Town midfield player who might remotely threated our opponent's goal. Oh, I forgot Kasumu's once-a-season thunderbolt. Please judge him by the same criteria as you do all the other "midfielders" and strikers, and you'd see he really is streets ahead of all of them. He is positive and he does move us forward then he passes the ball out for a throw in |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Mar 29, 2024 20:05:28 GMT 1
Goal difference vital but we wont get nothing at Stoke except a thrashing Hang your heads in shame today as no fight at all You complain about the team, but how can they buy better, with parasites like you, who won't give the club a penny. YOU get what YOU deserve, Tightarse |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 29, 2024 20:06:15 GMT 1
We 'defend' by running away. Coventry defend by going to where the ball is and then working hard to cut off the next ball. We run away, stand and wait. Truth is thats nothing to do with talent and all about graft and commitment. Our support of the ball or the man going to challenge for the ball was abysmal till 15 minutes from the end. Have to be brave to give yourselves a chance, we are not brave enough. We run away and then fail to pick up a man anyway, simply being 'back' isnt defending. The second goal was proof. The first goal wasnt a curled effort, it was just hit straight because we were there but not just not close, nope we allowed a straight shot from an angle, its almost unforgiveable. 3 mins of injury time left and we give away a pointless foul, much like the Hull game. We want the ball in play?  Pearson instead of Spencer??? Dont care if he played Tuesday, he is a kid. Balker? ? Just wanted to get off.. Plusses...Rudoni and Jones when he came on, he became our out ball, after 75 mins.. Ok we hit the post and bar, 2nd goal came from a ridiculous foul not given but the team game, work for each other ethic, was only there for 15 mins. We are dissapointing for too long in games. We were outworked for 75 mins at home, never acceptable. |
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 29, 2024 20:08:37 GMT 1
Out of curiosity, has anyone listened to what AB said post match? Can't be arsed listening (mainly cos I'm not interested in videos, I just want to read what he said, but the club have sacked off written versions of interviews this season for some reason, it's either listen or go without) He said they lost all of their duels first half which is correct... And worrying. Said we were better second half, again correct. He didn't explain why he's been seemingly unable to motivate any of them or get them to pass to one and other and look like a football team. Good news is we apparently trained very well! That’s a relief, I’d hate to have seen the performance if we had trained poorly! |
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Post by durhamterrier on Mar 29, 2024 20:08:37 GMT 1
Strange game , flat for most but a few bursts of energy . Coventry much better attacking team than us - slick and pacey - but defensively looked shaky .
Thought our set up was mostly right but don’t think a front two of DB and JK works at all.
Matos , Kasumu and Hogg looked a combative midfield three , we just don’t have any creative spark from any of them .
Pat Jones looked a great impact sub and both sub strikers looked to add something.
Balker’s either made of glass or soft as shit . Looks a player but not sure he’s got the attitude for the champ .
Headley looked woeful and was lucky not to cost us 2 more goals.
Ref was just diabolical - for both teams . Inconsistent , bizarre at times and you could argue poor decisions from him led to their first two goals … HOWEVER we can’t just keep blaming refs . They’re largely shit at this level and we need to do more
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 29, 2024 20:19:34 GMT 1
Thanks for putting "Rudoni shocking again" at the top so you don't need to read the rest. The only thing Rudoni has going for him at the moment is that he never hides and he keeps trying. The problem is nothing comes of it, his decision making and his final ball/finishing is poor. Still one of our better players though but that's just testimony to how garbage the rest of them are. I genuinely think that he is far better than any of our players. It's like he is on another wavelength. I think he would contribute a lot more in terms of goals and assistance if he wasn't playing alongside absolute shite |
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