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Post by ACW on Apr 1, 2024 17:12:14 GMT 1
And that's the point. Our general level of performance is nowhere near good enough to win games. Even against the poorer sides in this division. A team cannot continually fail to produce even basic levels of competence on the field and expect to get results. Stoke are shit. And they still looked a better football team than us. Depending on opinion!! Town were far more dangerous...and we will be OK Town were far more dangerous? Really? Stoke created more chances than we did. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 1, 2024 17:13:08 GMT 1
The overreactions here…
We were poor and more than value for a point. We had at least as many good chances as Stoke, if not more. Spencer defended brilliantly - they were not going to score again on his watch.
Burgzorg not passing was frustrating, and we didn’t create enough in the second half, but we’re still in it. Defeat would have been a dreadful result. A draw is not ideal, but if you can’t win, don’t lose.
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Post by Galpharmer on Apr 1, 2024 17:13:59 GMT 1
Depending on opinion!! Town were far more dangerous...and we will be OK Town were far more dangerous? Really? Stoke created more chances than we did. Town should have won that. And I’m the most negative Town fan ever. |
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Apr 1, 2024 17:14:12 GMT 1
Lot of defeatism on here after that. Birmingham 2 points above us still to play at home. Millwall 4 points above us still to play at home, and Plymouth in absolute freefall only 1 point above us.
Yes we’re in a very precarious situation but we’re still bang in with a chance of getting out of this.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Apr 1, 2024 17:14:16 GMT 1
Has to be the players now. AB has a record to suggest he is a good manager. It’s always been the players they are not technically good enough and then combine that with someone with limited coaching abs managerial capacity like Moore then you are in trouble |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 1, 2024 17:14:47 GMT 1
I weirdly feel better after that. You make your own luck in football and I know we haven't been great. But we have had sod all luck in recent weeks. We are due a break.
Massive opportunity to drag Millwall into it on Saturday. I'm surprised Sheff Weds have fluffed their lines this weekend but if we can get ahead of Plymouth then I think we will be fine. There were some good performances today.
The caveat to Plymouth is that they don't hire Warnock before the seasons end...
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Post by waggers on Apr 1, 2024 17:15:10 GMT 1
And that's the point. Our general level of performance is nowhere near good enough to win games. Even against the poorer sides in this division. A team cannot continually fail to produce even basic levels of competence on the field and expect to get results. Stoke are shit. And they still looked a better football team than us. Depending on opinion!! Town were far more dangerous...and we will be OK Sorry mate but we were not far more dangerous. Burgzorg should have passed and we might have stole 3 points, other than that it was 2 poor sides. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Apr 1, 2024 17:15:16 GMT 1
By the way Thomas was shite. I showed more effort by driving down here.
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 1, 2024 17:16:24 GMT 1
This makes Millwall a must win game and no excuses. Both teams could've won and we defended well. Unlucky that Hoever scores a peach but we had chances that we should've taken but had Jones not been interfering we would've been 2 up and probably comfortable. I still think we'll stay up but that's in part to the crapness of Wednesday, Plymouth and the lucky brummie wankers
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Post by westislandterrier on Apr 1, 2024 17:16:56 GMT 1
We won't win another game playing like this And that's the point. Our general level of performance is nowhere near good enough to win games. Even against the poorer sides in this division. A team cannot continually fail to produce even basic levels of competence on the field and expect to get results. Stoke are shit. And they still looked a better football team than us. The difference is that last week they went away to Hull City and won pretty comfortably... Where as we failed big time to take care of a team in a similar position in Coventry - And at home as well ! ☹️ |
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Post by waggers on Apr 1, 2024 17:17:00 GMT 1
Who we blaming today then? Can't be the players can it? Not the players that have been utter dog shit for two years.... Has to be the players now. AB has a record to suggest he is a good manager. True. I'd keep him (if he'd stay). We have had a couple very poor managers in recent years but I think AB has just walked into a mess. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Apr 1, 2024 17:17:56 GMT 1
Feels like a missed opportunity but we live to fight another day.
Some huge home games coming up. It is still all to play for so no need for the defeatism on here.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 1, 2024 17:17:56 GMT 1
Lot of defeatism on here after that. Birmingham 2 points above us still to play at home. Millwall 4 points above us still to play at home, and Plymouth in absolute freefall only 1 point above us. Yes we’re in a very precarious situation but we’re still bang in with a chance of getting out of this. I’d agree in general. My only comment is the margin for error is now wafer thin. Brum and Millwall probably know that sneaking a win v Town is them safe, so they may be more aggressive than we’ll set up for in those games. I’m certainly not a defeatist, but this feels like a tough ask right now. We’re not even getting any small bits of luck that are crucial at this stage of the season. If we do survive I’d suggest it’ll be an even bigger achievement than last season. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Apr 1, 2024 17:19:47 GMT 1
I agree we have a chance but.
We have to show more composure and we have to stop shots in our box
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 1, 2024 17:20:22 GMT 1
Has to be the players now. AB has a record to suggest he is a good manager. True. I'd keep him (if he'd stay). We have had a couple very poor managers in recent years but I think AB has just walked into a mess. Whilst I don't think this is his fault he will have to take some responsibility for us going down if in fact we do drop. I think he'd stay if we promised him the right things (squad clear out, money to rebuild and whatever he wants in terms of control over transfers). |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Apr 1, 2024 17:20:27 GMT 1
The point is a bonus for me. Two away games without defeat now. More than I could see at 2:52 so who knows? I know again those 1-1 draws with Plymouth, QPR and Blackburn are coming home to roost.
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Post by pinstripe on Apr 1, 2024 17:21:11 GMT 1
By the way Thomas was shite. I showed more effort by driving down here. His horrible effort at defending, giving Hoever the space for his wonder strike probably cost us today.. That and Bergzorg, I have no words. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 1, 2024 17:21:26 GMT 1
I agree we have a chance but. We have to show more composure and we have to stop shots in our box Nice to see us score a really good goal for a change. Radulovic bagging could be massive for us in the coming weeks. |
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Post by ACW on Apr 1, 2024 17:22:27 GMT 1
Town were far more dangerous? Really? Stoke created more chances than we did. Town should have won that. And I’m the most negative Town fan ever. Then we'll have to agree to disagree. I thought Stoke were better than us in almost every area. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Apr 1, 2024 17:25:11 GMT 1
Town should have won that. And I’m the most negative Town fan ever. Then we'll have to agree to disagree. I thought Stoke were better than us in almost every area. We definitely will. I rarely turn up nowadays but aside from the first five minutes when Town seemed determined to just let them in, I thought they were the better team. |
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 1, 2024 17:25:51 GMT 1
By the way Thomas was shite. I showed more effort by driving down here. It was a fucking stupid decision to put him on the left especially when Burgzorg was on. He should have tried to be more involved but did well when he was on the right and his set pieces were generally good. |
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Post by alfredsterrier on Apr 1, 2024 17:26:29 GMT 1
I couldn’t decide before the game if it was a must win or a must not lose.
Drawing is not a disaster but given other results it’s not great.
AB cannot be at fault for Thomas losing his man and Burgzorg not passing, either today or other times.
The players have got to be held to account.
I wonder if the constant turnover of managers actually makes them feel that they are not responsible when they have to accept as much of the blame.
Big game against Milwall now.
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Post by King Neil on Apr 1, 2024 17:27:35 GMT 1
Lot of defeatism on here after that. Birmingham 2 points above us still to play at home. Millwall 4 points above us still to play at home, and Plymouth in absolute freefall only 1 point above us. Yes we’re in a very precarious situation but we’re still bang in with a chance of getting out of this. I'm with you m8...its a good point and we will be ok |
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Post by King Neil on Apr 1, 2024 17:29:57 GMT 1
I said a few weeks ago Burgzorg should never play for Town again and got flamed!!
Some can't just see what a greedy self centered barstud he is
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 1, 2024 17:30:47 GMT 1
With Healy and Radulovic scoring in the last 2 matches both will be full confidence. Hopefully we can get both on the pitch for every remaining minute of the season and they can get the goals to keep us up
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Post by terryya on Apr 1, 2024 17:30:56 GMT 1
My take on it.
I thought Stoke started well but then Town were well on top from 10 minutes on. Commentators said we deserved to be ahead at HT.
We started the 2nd really well and it looked like only a matter of time before we got a second. They then scored a great goal from their first attack and the momentum shifted.
Rest of second half was even with both teams having periods on top and chances to score.
Burgzorg can f*ck off back to Germany.
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Post by rocky on Apr 1, 2024 17:30:58 GMT 1
Lot of defeatism on here after that. Birmingham 2 points above us still to play at home. Millwall 4 points above us still to play at home, and Plymouth in absolute freefall only 1 point above us. Yes we’re in a very precarious situation but we’re still bang in with a chance of getting out of this. People were saying Blackburn were in freefall a few weeks ago. A few games later, they’re 5 points ahead, 6 with GD. Town, 3 points from the last 18. Can’t hold a lead, can’t retrieve a losing position. Rarely score more than 1, rarely keep a clean sheet. Yes, we can still get out of it, but it’s hard to see this group of players doing it. |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 1, 2024 17:32:33 GMT 1
A very meh result for me not good not bad. Anything other than 3 points Saturday would be a shocker.
I’m hoping Bristol and Swansea could be easier games than they might initially look but all the other relegation teams will also have games against teams who have nowt to play for.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 1, 2024 17:32:36 GMT 1
With Healy and Radulovic scoring in the last 2 matches both will be full confidence. Hopefully we can get both on the pitch for every remaining minute of the season and they can get the goals to keep us up Healey didn't look full of confidence to me. Kept losing the ball and has less pace than Luke Beckett |
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Post by alexdire on Apr 1, 2024 17:33:24 GMT 1
The overreactions here… We were poor and more than value for a point. We had at least as many good chances as Stoke, if not more. Spencer defended brilliantly - they were not going to score again on his watch. Burgzorg not passing was frustrating, and we didn’t create enough in the second half, but we’re still in it. Defeat would have been a dreadful result. A draw is not ideal, but if you can’t win, don’t lose. A point wasn't good enough. |
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