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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 12, 2024 13:43:19 GMT 1
I mean there has to be a chance that we won't ever see Hoggy play for town again now, sounds like he's out for the season. What an incredible loyal professional he has been for us and if he has played his last game for us thank you for all the effort Hoggy.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 12, 2024 13:45:59 GMT 1
He'll be here next season as he'll be the first in line for a new contract.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Apr 12, 2024 13:48:32 GMT 1
I mean there has to be a chance that we won't ever see Hoggy play for town again now, sounds like he's out for the season. What an incredible loyal professional he has been for us and if he has played his last game for us thank you for all the effort Hoggy. Its not good news for this season, but I fully expect to see Hoggy in a town shirt again. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Apr 12, 2024 13:49:40 GMT 1
He'll be here next season as he'll be the first in line for a new contract. 99% sure he will be here again next season, pretty sure the new contract is pretty much agreed. |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Apr 12, 2024 13:52:13 GMT 1
I think that Tuesday night was a prime example of one of those games where we only notice his real value to us when he's not there.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 12, 2024 14:02:30 GMT 1
He'll be here next season as he'll be the first in line for a new contract. 99% sure he will be here again next season, pretty sure the new contract is pretty much agreed. Hopefully a 5 year deal where he becomes manager when he retires. He knows the club, so win win. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 12, 2024 14:03:37 GMT 1
I think that Tuesday night was a prime example of one of those games where we only notice his real value to us when he's not there. 100% agree. |
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Post by Larry David on Apr 12, 2024 14:18:16 GMT 1
I'd rather a half fit Hogg than a fully fit Wiles
The bloke is a legend and walks into this team
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 14:20:20 GMT 1
I'd rather a half fit Hogg than a fully fit Wiles The bloke is a legend and walks into this team TBF we've never seen a fully fit Wiles. |
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Post by dugnet on Apr 12, 2024 14:23:06 GMT 1
Whatever his future I hope he gets a testimonial.
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Post by Larry David on Apr 12, 2024 14:23:35 GMT 1
I'd rather a half fit Hogg than a fully fit Wiles The bloke is a legend and walks into this team TBF we've never seen a fully fit Wiles. I've seen enough to know he is poor. Don't rate him at all. I hope he proves me wrong but for me goes into the same bracket as Scott high, lee makel, mark Hudson quality of midfielder. |
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Post by royrace on Apr 12, 2024 14:25:19 GMT 1
FFS, another nail in the coffin
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Post by robbieh on Apr 12, 2024 14:26:17 GMT 1
TBF we've never seen a fully fit Wiles. I've seen enough to know he is poor. Don't rate him at all. I hope he proves me wrong but for me goes into the same bracket as Scott high, lee makel, mark Hudson quality of midfielder. Certainly wouldn't bracket Lee Makel with Scott High very good footballer was Makel. |
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Post by royrace on Apr 12, 2024 14:26:32 GMT 1
TBF we've never seen a fully fit Wiles. I've seen enough to know he is poor. Don't rate him at all. I hope he proves me wrong but for me goes into the same bracket as Scott high, lee makel, mark Hudson quality of midfielder. He could be as talented as Messi but if he can't run he's useless at this level and probably the one below. |
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Post by Larry David on Apr 12, 2024 14:32:19 GMT 1
I've seen enough to know he is poor. Don't rate him at all. I hope he proves me wrong but for me goes into the same bracket as Scott high, lee makel, mark Hudson quality of midfielder. Certainly wouldn't bracket Lee Makel with Scott High very good footballer was Makel. Yeah maybe a bit harsh but he was soft wasn't he. Often pushed off the ball to easily so reminds me of Wiles |
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Post by dugnet on Apr 12, 2024 14:32:50 GMT 1
I'd rather a half fit Hogg than a fully fit Wiles The bloke is a legend and walks into this team TBF we've never seen a fully fit Wiles. Wiles is a real enigma - I actually think he has ability but nothing seems to be right with him. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 12, 2024 14:36:22 GMT 1
I think that Tuesday night was a prime example of one of those games where we only notice his real value to us when he's not there. Yeah really missed that leadership he gives out on the pitch. We just cant catch a break this season with injuries. Never known a season like it. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 12, 2024 14:40:40 GMT 1
Why the hell would we be giving a 35 year old a new contract? Have we not learnt our lesson?
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Post by mosher on Apr 12, 2024 14:41:40 GMT 1
I think that Tuesday night was a prime example of one of those games where we only notice his real value to us when he's not there. Yeah really missed that leadership he gives out on the pitch. We just cant catch a break this season with injuries. Never known a season like it. We all thought Carlos had a bad run with injuries? Fk me that season pales in comparison to this, it's been insane. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 12, 2024 14:43:36 GMT 1
Why the hell would we be giving a 35 year old a new contract? Have we not learnt our lesson? I wouldn't mind giving him a year's extension TBH But anything longer should be as options to extend if he proves himself a worthy squad member**. I think we should definitely be looking for a "game ready" replacement though, it's too late for a prospect IMO. ** I personally think he'd not be the type to rock the boat if he was only a squad player, unlike some "professionals". |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Apr 12, 2024 14:48:25 GMT 1
He'll be here next season as he'll be the first in line for a new contract. He’ll do well for us in Division 3. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 12, 2024 14:53:22 GMT 1
He'll be here next season as he'll be the first in line for a new contract. He’ll do well for us in Division 3. Totally. Just give him a blank piece of paper and let him fill the numbers in. |
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Post by detox on Apr 12, 2024 14:53:24 GMT 1
What's his actual injury?
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 12, 2024 14:53:51 GMT 1
Yeah really missed that leadership he gives out on the pitch. We just cant catch a break this season with injuries. Never known a season like it. We all thought Carlos had a bad run with injuries? Fk me that season pales in comparison to this, it's been insane. 1996-97 will be unrivalled for injuries. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 12, 2024 14:54:35 GMT 1
Why the hell would we be giving a 35 year old a new contract? Have we not learnt our lesson? I wouldn't mind giving him a year's extension TBH But anything longer should be as options to extend if he proves himself a worthy squad member**. I think we should definitely be looking for a "game ready" replacement though, it's too late for a prospect IMO. ** I personally think he'd not be the type to rock the boat if he was only a squad player, unlike some "professionals". Hogg not rock the boat? Come on 😂 |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 12, 2024 14:55:48 GMT 1
Yeah really missed that leadership he gives out on the pitch. We just cant catch a break this season with injuries. Never known a season like it. We all thought Carlos had a bad run with injuries? Fk me that season pales in comparison to this, it's been insane. Makes you wonder if it's more than bad luck. That theres something more underlying that is causing it. But when the coaches etc have all changed so many times recently, it cant really be anything theyre doing, surely? the last 4 season have been an injury nightmare except for 21/22. 20/21..loads of injuries second half of season. Every centre back at once I seem to remember. CC couldn't cope and we almost went down after a good 1st half of season. 21/22...almost no injuries and CC almost took us up. 22/23... huge injury crisis, worse than CC had and only really got better last third of season once Warnock had come back. 23/24...even worse still. Only 11 or 12 1st team players available at times. A bench made up of kids..terrible in 1st half of season and not improving much in the 2nd. Even the new signings we buy to improve it are crocked or ill immediately. If we do go down theres lots of reason why, but more than anything the amount of injuries weve had to contend with this season has been ridiculous. |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 12, 2024 15:02:56 GMT 1
What's his actual injury? A broken shoulder |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 12, 2024 15:03:14 GMT 1
...although, it took him less than a week to recover from a supposed "broken neck" previously!
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Post by rockwall on Apr 12, 2024 15:09:09 GMT 1
TBF we've never seen a fully fit Wiles. Wiles is a real enigma - I actually think he has ability but nothing seems to be right with him. Hopefully Wiles has a positive and productive summer and pre season. Clearly a talent there. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Apr 12, 2024 15:24:59 GMT 1
Wiles is a real enigma - I actually think he has ability but nothing seems to be right with him. Hopefully Wiles has a positive and productive summer and pre season. Clearly a talent there. I agree he has talant, skillful has an eye for a pass and postionally he takes up some good spaces, his fitness however is appauling can he get fit with the correct pre season I hope so but I would have expected to see an improvment in his fitness under DM and then again under AB and honestly he has maybe even gone backwards in terms of fitness, maybe the injuries have taken there toll and he wont get back to what he had, dont forget Burnley wanted to pay 3mil for him in there promotion year until he got injured talant is there, fitness / application / desire might not be unfortunalty. |
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