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Post by Larry David on Apr 13, 2024 19:11:17 GMT 1
The fact she was crap has nothing to do with her gender. Every time I've seen her she has been crap
It's the FAs fault for promoting this ref because of what's in her shorts and not her ability.
She is absolutely not good enough to referee the professional game.
Yeah there are loads of crap refs I hear you say, which is true but every effort should be made to get the best refs and not some DEI tick box. I fear this is the latter
she made loads of errors, was behind the game, booked people for non challenges. Even before the shambles at the end she was not good enough.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Apr 13, 2024 19:11:30 GMT 1
You're talking about the Championship Jack. She's gone from league 2 to the prem in three months. Clearly wasn't good enough for the prem so we've had her twice and she's been the worst we've seen for both matches So it would have been fine if she hadn’t ref’d those men’s games? Do you know anything about how she’s done in games other than ours? Is it possible she could have deserved to ref in the prem? The gender of the ref is irrelevant to me. However, it becomes relevant when it's a factor in the role that she has. If she was a man she would be still in league 2.
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Post by terrierneil on Apr 13, 2024 19:13:17 GMT 1
The difference is why the Women's Champions League winners don't play the Men's Champion League winners, or, indeed any Men's professional team. If you can't see the difference between Women's pro football & men's, there's no point in having a discussion with you. Yet you with no clear footballing experience are clear to know the differences. You think it’s impossible for all women to understand men’s football? Like it’s that complicated? It is to them.
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Post by Scott Chegg on Apr 13, 2024 19:14:03 GMT 1
She should be hung out to dry Should be hanging out the drying.* *I don't mean this, I just thought it was funny. It doesn't even make sense. Surely you hang washing out, not drying? 😕
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Post by softboy on Apr 13, 2024 19:14:49 GMT 1
If you think its shameful then that's fair enough. But just to get the facts straight (as you obvious have access to DATM inside information, which does concern me. What percentage of people who are critising her are men and what percentage are women.
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Post by 747max on Apr 13, 2024 19:16:07 GMT 1
Just a shame in this day and age there is no female football leagues and matches that females could referee and commentate on without having to create so much division between fan's of the men's game.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 13, 2024 19:17:07 GMT 1
I cannot believe some of the narrative on here. As I posted before let's focus on the two key decisions:
1 - Was the additional time added correctly applied?
2 - Was the penalty consistent with the handball guidelines?
If both are questionable then that's the debate not the gender of the referee.
There is absolutely no reason why a woman can't be a top quality referee. Equally there is no reason why a woman isn't likely to make poor decisions. Don't tell me that men aren't any less likely to make lousy calls.
History however tells us that irrespective if it was Rebecca Welch, Pierluigini Colina or Mickey Mouse refereeing we can be pretty much sure bugger all will be done if this is poor refereeing.
The best thing we can do is use the negative energy as something to give us energy in these last 3 games.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 19:17:49 GMT 1
Should be hanging out the drying.* *I don't mean this, I just thought it was funny. It doesn't even make sense. Surely you hang washing out, not drying? 😕 Picky?
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 13, 2024 19:18:20 GMT 1
Call the ref shite all you want, but having a pop at her gender is just daft.
What next? We have a black ref that gives the wrong decision, are we going to start attacking him over the colour of his skin?
The referee is shite, gender is irrelevant.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 13, 2024 19:19:29 GMT 1
You're talking about the Championship Jack. She's gone from league 2 to the prem in three months. Clearly wasn't good enough for the prem so we've had her twice and she's been the worst we've seen for both matches So it would have been fine if she hadn’t ref’d those men’s games? Do you know anything about how she’s done in games other than ours? Is it possible she could have deserved to ref in the prem? She gave a similarly fucking ludicrous penalty against Sheff Wed last season. Look it up, maybe? In no way did she deserve to be promoted to the PL. She's several levels higher than she should be, and only a cretin doesn't know why that is. Take your head out of your crimper.
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Post by cecerececerececere on Apr 13, 2024 19:20:39 GMT 1
The only thing different today is the genitals in this ref’s shorts. Transphobe....a woman can have a penis nowadays.
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Post by harris on Apr 13, 2024 19:21:33 GMT 1
Another angle. Not a pen, absolute guesswork and just pandering to the home crowd to get the last squeeze of attention she craved all game from them. Disgusting.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 13, 2024 19:21:40 GMT 1
I don't understand why you would give a penalty for something which isn't obvious so late in a game to a team who are not playing for anything against a team fighting relegation What was going through her head at that point? It really makes me think some referees are actively looking to manipulate results for whatever reason that might be. Did we upset her during the Hull game and she's wanted to show us who is boss. Referees are power mad, combine that with an upset woman and you've got a problem She seemed to enjoy the home supporters approval of most decisions she made today I have to chuckle Pete. You often chastise people on here for their perceived negativity buy you are also prepared to take a wholly misogynistic opinion of a poor refereeing decision by a referee. Hardly consistent with someone who purports to the positive is it? It may well be a shocking refereeing performance but the gender is irrelevant. Competence is the issue here.
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Post by terrierneil on Apr 13, 2024 19:21:54 GMT 1
I cannot believe some of the narrative on here. As I posted before let's focus on the two key decisions: 1 - Was the additional time added correctly applied? 2 - Was the penalty consistent with the handball guidelines? If both are questionable then that's the debate not the gender of the referee. There is absolutely no reason why a woman can't be a top quality referee. Equally there is no reason why a woman isn't likely to make poor decisions. Don't tell me that men aren't any less likely to make lousy calls. History however tells us that irrespective if it was Rebecca Welch, Pierluigini Colina or Mickey Mouse refereeing we can be pretty much sure bugger all will be done if this is poor refereeing. The best thing we can do is use the negative energy as something to give us energy in these last 3 games. A male referee has never given all those free kicks she gave today for slips and falls with ZERO contact. That is a fact. She is worse than any male referee I have seen. She shouldn't be in the job. Let men referee men and women referee women. Call me bigoted but the majority of football fans agree.
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Post by Scott Chegg on Apr 13, 2024 19:22:02 GMT 1
It doesn't even make sense. Surely you hang washing out, not drying? 😕 Picky? I wouldn't say so. Just pointing out your "joke" was shite and didn't make sense. You're welcome.
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Post by softboy on Apr 13, 2024 19:22:35 GMT 1
I cannot believe some of the narrative on here. As I posted before let's focus on the two key decisions: 1 - Was the additional time added correctly applied? 2 - Was the penalty consistent with the handball guidelines? If both are questionable then that's the debate not the gender of the referee. There is absolutely no reason why a woman can't be a top quality referee. Equally there is no reason why a woman isn't likely to make poor decisions. Don't tell me that men aren't any less likely to make lousy calls. History however tells us that irrespective if it was Rebecca Welch, Pierluigini Colina or Mickey Mouse refereeing we can be pretty much sure bugger all will be done if this is poor refereeing. The best thing we can do is use the negative energy as something to give us energy in these last 3 games. Try telling the players that. Had we won they would be travelling back in high spirits, now we have drawn thet will be devistated like we are.
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Post by cyberman on Apr 13, 2024 19:24:01 GMT 1
For me she is being criticised cos she is an utter shite ref that is totally out of her depth...but seems to be favoured for whatever reason to ref imprtant games and then give bizarre decisions.Surely at some pint her scoring will be at a level that she will be seen to be what she is - out of her depth and abysmal. ??
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Post by dugnet on Apr 13, 2024 19:24:31 GMT 1
Another angle. Not a pen, absolute guesswork and just pandering to the home crowd to get the last squeeze of attention she craved all game from them. Disgusting. There are assessors, Breitenreiter is invited to give his opinion. That process should be more visible so we could have confidence that referees are being held to the highest standards.
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Post by softboy on Apr 13, 2024 19:24:50 GMT 1
I have absolutely no problem with a female referee, but an incompetant one, either male or female I do.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 19:25:00 GMT 1
Picky? I wouldn't say so. Just pointing out your "joke" was shite and didn't make sense. You're welcome. Doubly picky then.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Apr 13, 2024 19:25:52 GMT 1
Her gender isn’t totally irrelevant though, is it? I think a lot of the anger here is based on the fact that she’s reffing at this level purely because she is a woman and not because of her ability to referee.
I suppose it’s highly debatable if she’s at Championship standard or not, I mean, they all seem pretty useless to me.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 13, 2024 19:27:21 GMT 1
I cannot believe some of the narrative on here. As I posted before let's focus on the two key decisions: 1 - Was the additional time added correctly applied? 2 - Was the penalty consistent with the handball guidelines? If both are questionable then that's the debate not the gender of the referee. There is absolutely no reason why a woman can't be a top quality referee. Equally there is no reason why a woman isn't likely to make poor decisions. Don't tell me that men aren't any less likely to make lousy calls. History however tells us that irrespective if it was Rebecca Welch, Pierluigini Colina or Mickey Mouse refereeing we can be pretty much sure bugger all will be done if this is poor refereeing. The best thing we can do is use the negative energy as something to give us energy in these last 3 games. A male referee has never given all those free kicks she gave today for slips and falls with ZERO contact. That is a fact. She is worse than any male referee I have seen. She shouldn't be in the job. Let men referee men and women referee women. Call me bigoted but the majority of football fans agree. That's nonsense, she's either good enough or not but just because of what has happened a couple of hours ago doesn't mean male referees have suddenly become brilliant. They haven't and the overall standard is not as good as it should be.
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Post by Mav on Apr 13, 2024 19:27:35 GMT 1
She was fucking clueless. A lady sat next but door one to me was baffled and horrified by her decisions, not because she was a female …. just because she was inept. Useless. Town fans excellent today as always.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 13, 2024 19:28:29 GMT 1
I cannot believe some of the narrative on here. As I posted before let's focus on the two key decisions: 1 - Was the additional time added correctly applied? 2 - Was the penalty consistent with the handball guidelines? If both are questionable then that's the debate not the gender of the referee. There is absolutely no reason why a woman can't be a top quality referee. Equally there is no reason why a woman isn't likely to make poor decisions. Don't tell me that men aren't any less likely to make lousy calls. History however tells us that irrespective if it was Rebecca Welch, Pierluigini Colina or Mickey Mouse refereeing we can be pretty much sure bugger all will be done if this is poor refereeing. The best thing we can do is use the negative energy as something to give us energy in these last 3 games. Try telling the players that. Had we won they would be travelling back in high spirits, now we have drawn thet will be devistated like we are. I agree but it's poor refereeing, not poor refereeing because of their gender.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 13, 2024 19:29:20 GMT 1
Think it is clear that.
1. She is shit 2. CowshedJack is her dad.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 13, 2024 19:31:03 GMT 1
Her gender isn’t totally irrelevant though, is it? I think a lot of the anger here is based on the fact that she’s reffing at this level purely because she is a woman and not because of her ability to referee. I suppose it’s highly debatable if she’s at Championship standard or not, I mean, they all seem pretty useless to me. What about all the other referees this season that are to blame for us losing games? The standard of officiating is shocking, male or female.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 19:31:21 GMT 1
The decision to play 100 minutes when she’d signalled 5 additional, and to give a penalty for the cross hitting a defender’s shoulder from point blank range is a hell of a lot embarrassing than anything since full time.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 13, 2024 19:32:43 GMT 1
Another angle. Not a pen, absolute guesswork and just pandering to the home crowd to get the last squeeze of attention she craved all game from them. Disgusting. I've just screen recorded that and watched it at .25 speed and it is never a penalty. His arm naturally comes out as he slides but when the ball hits the arm it's actually back against his body. She's guessed and gone with the shouts.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 13, 2024 19:34:57 GMT 1
Another angle. Not a pen, absolute guesswork and just pandering to the home crowd to get the last squeeze of attention she craved all game from them. Disgusting. I've just screen recorded that and watched it at .25 speed and it is never a penalty. His arm naturally comes out as he slides but when the ball hits the arm it's actually back against his body. She's guessed and gone with the shouts. At that point in the game, 5 minutes over the 5 added on, surely she wasn't 100% sure. Common sense says give Huddersfield the benefit as Bristol had fuck all to play for and wouldn't have even moaned about it.
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 19:37:21 GMT 1
Absolutely disgrace. All for equality etc. but she is a fucking joke. Get back behind the kitchen sink you fucking cuntflap Are you really all for equality?
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