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Post by htafcokay on Apr 20, 2024 22:16:25 GMT 1
I don't need to waste intelligence on here, especially not on you or Pete. Have a good evening. I don’t see that you really have any intelligence to waste, some of your posts appear to indicate a distinct lack of intelligence and an oversupply of unpleasantness . Ignore me then  then we'll both be happy. Good night. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Apr 20, 2024 22:18:19 GMT 1
I don’t see that you really have any intelligence to waste, some of your posts appear to indicate a distinct lack of intelligence and an oversupply of unpleasantness . Ignore me then then we'll both be happy. Good night. Thought you’d gone a couple of posts ago ? 😂 |
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Post by flevans on Apr 20, 2024 22:18:21 GMT 1
If Nagle is being rated, after putting in millions, what about rating the fans? Moan about every referee, every goal conceded, the club being in a mess, yet nobody says that we played a part. Using the clowns in Devon as an example but nit exclusively, pays nowt to the club all season, looking for free streams instead of Ifolliw, then complain about the standard of football. We all have a part to play in this poor scenario. Least of all Nagle, who has put more money in the club than the combined membership of DATM I'm pretty sure it's not my fault |
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Post by hoggy1975 on Apr 20, 2024 22:41:32 GMT 1
I do plenty, thanks. You keep sticking your tongue up Nagle and Carmichael's arse, just like you did with Hodgkinson (weren't we in good hands then as well?). Heed your own advice and get a proper life, you patronising bore. But I'm not on here all day, every day. Is there any need to be so disrespectful? Your post was disrespectful in the first place, could have just ignored it? Or do you enjoy being a pompous bellend all the time? |
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Post by tepidterrier on Apr 20, 2024 22:43:00 GMT 1
Ignore me then then we'll both be happy. Good night. Thought you’d gone a couple of posts ago ? 😂 Stop posting you fucking biff |
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Post by portugalterrier on Apr 20, 2024 22:57:26 GMT 1
Thought you’d gone a couple of posts ago ? 😂 Stop posting you fucking biff And another of life’s charmers wakes up 🥰 |
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Post by ibby on Apr 21, 2024 0:43:26 GMT 1
Should have kept Warnock on.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Apr 21, 2024 0:53:25 GMT 1
Good intentions, decent guy
But too many key decisions have been just plain wrong
He's been listening to the wrong people
Now him and us have to pay
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Post by hueypnewton on Apr 21, 2024 3:13:38 GMT 1
I don’t mind Kevin. His biggest mistake was to think that last season’s squad without the Warnock factor, would be enough to keep us up. The January business was too little too late. That said, having a billionaire owner in League One would give us the best chance of bouncing back
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Post by alexdire on Apr 21, 2024 3:55:43 GMT 1
I don’t mind Kevin. His biggest mistake was to think that last season’s squad without the Warnock factor, would be enough to keep us up. The January business was too little too late. That said, having a billionaire owner in League One would give us the best chance of bouncing back It took the billionaire Kyril Dreyfus two seasons to sneak a play-off win. So it's no guarantee. |
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Post by terrier1000 on Apr 21, 2024 8:37:45 GMT 1
poor response from Nagle after yesterday after all the hype building up the game during the week, lets hope the news later in the week is that both Edwards and Cartwright have left the building.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 21, 2024 8:39:13 GMT 1
I’m lost for words at this point, after seeing his side basically condemned to relegation he decides to go on twitter and celebrate some American non league team winning and put ‘Huddersfield Town drubbed 4-0 by Swansea’, that’s not naivety it’s just pure stupid.
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 21, 2024 8:41:04 GMT 1
His tweets suggest it's just another loss. Then again, it is to him.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 21, 2024 8:44:36 GMT 1
poor response from Nagle after yesterday after all the hype building up the game during the week, lets hope the news later in the week is that both Edwards and Cartwright have left the building. Yeah, that would suggest heads might roll this week.... |
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Post by Larry David on Apr 21, 2024 8:45:10 GMT 1
He may be naive when it comes to English football, but he is a successful business man so can sniff out amateurs.
I suspect Edwards and Cartwright will be gone soon.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 21, 2024 8:46:47 GMT 1
It’s just all talk, it’s all it’s been all season and doing it on a platform like Twitter which just breeds toxicity is just even weirder.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Apr 21, 2024 8:47:31 GMT 1
I’m lost for words at this point, after seeing his side basically condemned to relegation he decides to go on twitter and celebrate some American non league team winning and put ‘Huddersfield Town drubbed 4-0 by Swansea’, that’s not naivety it’s just pure stupid. I don't know what else he could have said. Perhaps he's hurting too...not in the same way as the few on here, but hurting all the same? |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 21, 2024 8:48:38 GMT 1
Let's look at the key decisions to date:
Appointing NW as f/t manager - MISTAKE. His strength over the last few years is to firefight struggling teams, where, in this league, there is noone better. However, he is not a tactician he motivates people - short term.
Appointing DM - MISTAKE. He sucked any belief out of the players by basically telling them they had to defend for their lives every game as they weren't good enough to compete in this division.
Keeping DM as long as he did - CORRECT. He knows we can't keep changing managers & once appointed, he had to give him a chance. I would have sacked him at the exact time he did, as I think he had the same thoughts as I had about the importance of that final sequence of games.
Appointing AB - CORRECT. His CV is exactly what we wanted, an expert in coming in & improving teams straight away & has managed at a higher level. I must admit I've been really disappointed by him, especially his team selection & subs, however, I bet he can't believe how poor these players are, their basic ability must have shocked him.
On top of these decisions, KN has done exactly what he said he would do, he provided his senior management team with a more than healthy budget at the last window.
Has he been let down by Cartwright? Not sure yet, Balker, Radulovic & Healey need more time as they've come into a team so lacking in confidence & ability, it's not really fair to judge them in a few short months.
Wasn't it Brian Clough who wrote a book which had a chapter headed "What chairmen know about football" & left the page blank? KN would, quite rightly, have been crucified if he'd interfered with footballing matters, he has trusted people to do this for them, &, to date the jury is out. Let's not forget though, KN brought a club in turmoil, which has been under-funded for years, has had 10 seasons out of 12 just managing to avoid relegation, which has had the worst goal difference in the entire EFL over the last 10 years, which contains a set of players that currently has maybe 4 or 5 who are genuine Championship quality & who's confidence is lower than a snake's bollocks, as they are used to losing.
There is no way in hell anyone can judge KN now as the mess he has inherited cannot be solved in 1 season. All we can hope is that he is in for the long run, & his track record in life suggests that if he sticks with us, he will succeed.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 21, 2024 8:49:03 GMT 1
I’m lost for words at this point, after seeing his side basically condemned to relegation he decides to go on twitter and celebrate some American non league team winning and put ‘Huddersfield Town drubbed 4-0 by Swansea’, that’s not naivety it’s just pure stupid. I don't know what else he could have said. Perhaps he's hurting too...not in the same way as the few on here, but hurting all the same? Don’t say anything actions speak louder than words and keep it private, he’s the chairman. No other chairman does it in the top two divisions why is he. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 21, 2024 9:13:05 GMT 1
In hindsight it is now obvious that along with the transfer of Marcus Stewart to Ipswich, the sacking of Neil Warnock was the stupidest decision this club has made in the last 25 years.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Apr 21, 2024 9:17:18 GMT 1
He may be naive when it comes to English football, but he is a successful business man so can sniff out amateurs. I suspect Edwards and Cartwright will be gone soon. He must have had a blocked nose last summer when some of the first and most important jobs were handed out then. |
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Post by jimhtfc on Apr 21, 2024 9:20:24 GMT 1
Let's look at the key decisions to date: Appointing NW as f/t manager - MISTAKE. His strength over the last few years is to firefight struggling teams, where, in this league, there is noone better. However, he is not a tactician he motivates people - short term. Appointing DM - MISTAKE. He sucked any belief out of the players by basically telling them they had to defend for their lives every game as they weren't good enough to compete in this division. Keeping DM as long as he did - CORRECT. He knows we can't keep changing managers & once appointed, he had to give him a chance. I would have sacked him at the exact time he did, as I think he had the same thoughts as I had about the importance of that final sequence of games. Appointing AB - CORRECT. His CV is exactly what we wanted, an expert in coming in & improving teams straight away & has managed at a higher level. I must admit I've been really disappointed by him, especially his team selection & subs, however, I bet he can't believe how poor these players are, their basic ability must have shocked him. On top of these decisions, KN has done exactly what he said he would do, he provided his senior management team with a more than healthy budget at the last window. Has he been let down by Cartwright? Not sure yet, Balker, Radulovic & Healey need more time as they've come into a team so lacking in confidence & ability, it's not really fair to judge them in a few short months. Wasn't it Brian Clough who wrote a book which had a chapter headed "What chairmen know about football" & left the page blank? KN would, quite rightly, have been crucified if he'd interfered with footballing matters, he has trusted people to do this for them, &, to date the jury is out. Let's not forget though, KN brought a club in turmoil, which has been under-funded for years, has had 10 seasons out of 12 just managing to avoid relegation, which has had the worst goal difference in the entire EFL over the last 10 years, which contains a set of players that currently has maybe 4 or 5 who are genuine Championship quality & who's confidence is lower than a snake's bollocks, as they are used to losing. There is no way in hell anyone can judge KN now as the mess he has inherited cannot be solved in 1 season. All we can hope is that he is in for the long run, & his track record in life suggests that if he sticks with us, he will succeed. I disagree, as KN says himself the buck stops with him. The decision making since he has been at the club has been woeful and regardless of who made those decisions, because we do not know from the outside looking in, ultimately the accountability lays with KN. With the benefit of hindsight, how many of these decisions have turned out to be good. Appointing Jake Edwards - I don't know enough about his role, but as a decision maker in the club needs to take some responsiblity. Appointing Cartwright - no Giving Warnock the job - no Sacking Warnock when he did - no Giving Moore the job - no Keeping Moore as long as he did - no Giving AB the job - looks like no seeing as we are in a worse position. what is clear is that the lack of quality in the squad is making the managers job incredibly difficult. Giving new contract to Ward - no Giving new contract to Ruffles - no Burgzorg - no Maxwell - yes Edwards - no Matos - yes Healey - no Radulovic - no Wiles - no Balker - no Healey, Balker and Radulovic may go on to be decent players for us, but their injury records since they came have shown they aren't what we needed at the time. Ultimately we have given 9 players new contracts at the club since KN started and we are worse off. I agree there a complete mess at the club and it will take longer than one season to remedy, but IMO KN has done more to contribute to that mess than he has to fix it. Hopefully that will change next season. I normally agree with the majority of your posts and whilst the overall judging of KN will be at the end of his tenure, there can be little doubt he's not exactly done a great job so far. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 21, 2024 9:25:18 GMT 1
Keeping DM as long as he did - CORRECT. He knows we can't keep changing managers & once appointed, he had to give him a chance. I would have sacked him at the exact time he did, as I think he had the same thoughts as I had about the importance of that final sequence of games. Agree with all of your post apart from this. He should have gone after Norwich. He did deserve a fair crack but he had shown nothing up to Christmas. The decision to let him stay for a window that he had no real say in and also sacrifice the Plymouth, Blackburn and QPR games in the process is what has relegated us. To finish the transfer window managerless and as a result, unable to do any further business was an absolute disaster. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 21, 2024 9:26:51 GMT 1
Judging Kevin Nagle at the end of his tenure will be exactly the same as all that have exited HTFC in the past. There won’t be a statue and they’ll be driven to the station by some of the more vocal supporters.
Owning a football club is something I’ll never do, but even if I was in the fortunate position to do so, I think I’d be looking at other ventures.
Unless you’re in the elite/cheat bracket, it’s a thankless task. I suppose we should be thanking them for taking on these poisoned chalices in the first place?
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Post by boooothy on Apr 21, 2024 9:39:10 GMT 1
In hindsight it is now obvious that along with the transfer of Marcus Stewart to Ipswich, the sacking of Neil Warnock was the stupidest decision this club has made in the last 25 years. I don’t even think it’s hindsight. Look back on here, many said the exact same thing as soon as Warnock left. |
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Post by jimhtfc on Apr 21, 2024 9:43:51 GMT 1
Judging Kevin Nagle at the end of his tenure will be exactly the same as all that have exited HTFC in the past. There won’t be a statue and they’ll be driven to the station by some of the more vocal supporters. Owning a football club is something I’ll never do, but even if I was in the fortunate position to do so, I think I’d be looking at other ventures. Unless you’re in the elite/cheat bracket, it’s a thankless task. I suppose we should be thanking them for taking on these poisoned chalices in the first place? youre absolutely right. Applying the same logic to DH tenure, considering where we were at the end of KD's ownership you'd have to be foolish not to have taken that at the time knowing how it would all turn out. DH made plenty of good decisions and plenty of bad ones, however I think he is judged overly harsly on here. Like them or loathe them, owning a club is an ego trip for wealthy people and whilst its easy to see why Dave Taylor, Ken Davy, Dean Hoyle, Phil H all got involved as they have a connection to the club or town. For people like Rubery and KN, its purely ego so I have little sympathy for them. |
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Post by Floyds on Apr 21, 2024 9:44:36 GMT 1
Let's look at the key decisions to date: Appointing NW as f/t manager - MISTAKE. His strength over the last few years is to firefight struggling teams, where, in this league, there is noone better. However, he is not a tactician he motivates people - short term. Appointing DM - MISTAKE. He sucked any belief out of the players by basically telling them they had to defend for their lives every game as they weren't good enough to compete in this division. Keeping DM as long as he did - CORRECT. He knows we can't keep changing managers & once appointed, he had to give him a chance. I would have sacked him at the exact time he did, as I think he had the same thoughts as I had about the importance of that final sequence of games. Appointing AB - CORRECT. His CV is exactly what we wanted, an expert in coming in & improving teams straight away & has managed at a higher level. I must admit I've been really disappointed by him, especially his team selection & subs, however, I bet he can't believe how poor these players are, their basic ability must have shocked him. On top of these decisions, KN has done exactly what he said he would do, he provided his senior management team with a more than healthy budget at the last window. Has he been let down by Cartwright? Not sure yet, Balker, Radulovic & Healey need more time as they've come into a team so lacking in confidence & ability, it's not really fair to judge them in a few short months. Wasn't it Brian Clough who wrote a book which had a chapter headed "What chairmen know about football" & left the page blank? KN would, quite rightly, have been crucified if he'd interfered with footballing matters, he has trusted people to do this for them, &, to date the jury is out. Let's not forget though, KN brought a club in turmoil, which has been under-funded for years, has had 10 seasons out of 12 just managing to avoid relegation, which has had the worst goal difference in the entire EFL over the last 10 years, which contains a set of players that currently has maybe 4 or 5 who are genuine Championship quality & who's confidence is lower than a snake's bollocks, as they are used to losing. There is no way in hell anyone can judge KN now as the mess he has inherited cannot be solved in 1 season. All we can hope is that he is in for the long run, & his track record in life suggests that if he sticks with us, he will succeed. Appointing a manager with no experience of English football and with two wins in eleven is CORRECT? Christ. How bad would AB have to be for it to be a mistake?😂 |
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Post by htafcdreams on Apr 21, 2024 9:45:44 GMT 1
Can’t fault Kev paying the bills and providing transparency during the season.
He backed the January transfer window and AB appointment on paper looked good. AB struggled with English football (no experience), the playing squad and ended up not playing strikers for whatever the reasons.
Kevs talked things up abit too much during this season is the main concern I have in how much he’s listened to in the future.
Kev coming from US championship where stadiums are 5k capacity, lower level football and calibre of players / managers.
Would we suggest this is similar to running Southport or a very small League 2 club.
The data crunchers and advisers in the US haven’t the capability or experience in running a championship club.
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Post by royrace on Apr 21, 2024 9:52:38 GMT 1
I don't know what else he could have said. Perhaps he's hurting too...not in the same way as the few on here, but hurting all the same? Don’t say anything actions speak louder than words and keep it private, he’s the chairman. No other chairman does it in the top two divisions why is he. Id imagine he's devastated and absolutely fuming. Hopefully he's busy looking for a quality and experienced DoF because that's where he needs to start. Imagine forking out £4M in January to keep your club in the league and seeing not one of those signings on the pitch. Imagine hiring a top European coach and seeing him do a worse job than the academy manager did as caretaker. Not to mention the rest of the shit show Edwards and Cartwright have delivered. Hoyle must also be gutted. I keep thinking how hard it was to get out of league one, all that time, all the work last season to perform a miracle only for those two arrogant fuckwits to come along and destroy it all. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 21, 2024 9:58:38 GMT 1
poor response from Nagle after yesterday after all the hype building up the game during the week, lets hope the news later in the week is that both Edwards and Cartwright have left the building. Must be difficult to know what to say at this point. Or, maybe he knows what needs to be done, but doesn't want to announce it on Twitter before speaking to the people directly involved? He has two clubs to think about and on this it might have been better done as two separate tweets. But of a weird thing to get hung up on though. |
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