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Post by boooothy on Apr 26, 2024 11:48:57 GMT 1
Only Town fans would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. My kind of old fashioned view is thst it’s all down to money. The crazy amounts even average (very average) players make. They don’t play for Huddersfield Town or any other club, they play for the dollar. No pride as they are tied into a contract paying stupid money with zero fucks given. Shame really. UTT. We’ll be back!! Of course it is. same with all of em and managers. Ask them in public what they achieved in their careers and they will mention promotions etc. Ask them in private and they’ll tell you how much they earned. |
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Post by theterrier42 on Apr 26, 2024 11:49:51 GMT 1
That rumour he keeps going back to Germany every few days is doing the rounds on Twitter again. Surely that’s bollocks? Nagle says it bollocks. He would say that though…. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 11:51:18 GMT 1
He would say that though…. Seeing as though the club weren't happy about Warnock spending time in Cornwall, I doubt the club would allow Breitenreiter to be flying home to Germany all the time. Guess this rumour makes a change from the "dropped player is shagging the manager's daughter" rumour we usual have. |
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Post by theterrier42 on Apr 26, 2024 11:56:31 GMT 1
He would say that though…. Seeing as though the club weren't happy about Warnock spending time in Cornwall, I doubt the club would allow Breitenreiter to be flying home to Germany all the time. Guess this rumour makes a change from the "dropped player is shagging the manager's daughter" rumour we usual have. I agree with you, seems absolutely ludicrous, but just wondering why the rumour is persisting if there’s nothing in it |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 11:59:35 GMT 1
Seeing as though the club weren't happy about Warnock spending time in Cornwall, I doubt the club would allow Breitenreiter to be flying home to Germany all the time. Guess this rumour makes a change from the "dropped player is shagging the manager's daughter" rumour we usual have. I agree with you, seems absolutely ludicrous, but just wondering why the rumour is persisting if there’s nothing in it Why does any rumour persist? Some people will swear blind that Marcus Stewart was sold because he was shagging Barry Rubery's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Neil Warnock left in 1995 because he was shagging Terry Fisher's wife. Some people will swear blind that Rajiv van la Parra wasn't playing in 2018 because he was shagging David Wagner's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Ken Monkou is gay and that he tried it on with Ben Thornley in the showers. Rumours swirl all the time, and mostly are bollocks. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 26, 2024 12:06:25 GMT 1
Don't know about every couple of days, but I would guess every couple of weeks (he'd be flying over to Germany). Didn't he say in his first press conference that he'll be away from his family? So, it's only natural he wants to pop over and see his wife and kids every now and again - think he even mentioned he'd been married over 20 years and there wasn't a problem being away for a couple of weeks or so.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2024 12:39:24 GMT 1
its amazing how a manager with his track record, has since coming to town lost his mind and tactical knowledge isn't it ! or is it the players as they are the constant throughout the last 18 months? is he useless or are the players useless, or are the players just not listening ? you would have to see his training methods to judge , to then see what is happening on the pitch. It would only be town to have a manager with his track record, for him to become shit overnight it seems and completely forget what he is doing. Why do people blame him soley and not give the players any blame for this ? Heck we might find next year after a clearout of players, that if he was given a squad of players with the dynamics he wants, he can get them playing as he wants? I think people are giving the players far too much of a leaniet pass on this, we have players who have simply given up in many games this year weathery ou like it or not that is what has happened . I get the manager is the easy one to blame . But still lets have some balance to this idea that he is totally shit , he clearly is not , there is a balance to be had in this. Like i say if a clearout of players was to happen, if we could get him the squad daynmaic he wanted, i would give him a chance to get it to work. Only Town fans would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. If you are referring to me, I’ve mentioned in several threads the players are shit. It’s hardly a secret is it. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 12:44:01 GMT 1
Only Town fans would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. If you are referring to me, I’ve mentioned in several threads the players are shit. It’s hardly a secret is it. I'm not referring to you, if I was referring to you I'd tag you in the post. I'm referring to Town fans in general, as there's still plenty fans that will insist that these players are better than this and that they're good enough for this league, completely ignoring what they've watched with their own eyes for two years. It's laughable. These players are at their level, second bottom of the division. Some of us said it at the start of the season but were laughed at, and told by people, including Nagle, that the squad was good enough. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 26, 2024 12:54:56 GMT 1
I agree with you, seems absolutely ludicrous, but just wondering why the rumour is persisting if there’s nothing in it Why does any rumour persist? Some people will swear blind that Marcus Stewart was sold because he was shagging Barry Rubery's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Neil Warnock left in 1995 because he was shagging Terry Fisher's wife. Some people will swear blind that Rajiv van la Parra wasn't playing in 2018 because he was shagging David Wagner's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Ken Monkou is gay and that he tried it on with Ben Thornley in the showers. Rumours swirl all the time, and mostly are bollocks. Daughter? I heard it was his missus from a fella who used to drink in the Woodman with Stewy. Says it all about rumours  Great album though |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 26, 2024 12:59:53 GMT 1
I agree with you, seems absolutely ludicrous, but just wondering why the rumour is persisting if there’s nothing in it Why does any rumour persist? Some people will swear blind that Marcus Stewart was sold because he was shagging Barry Rubery's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Neil Warnock left in 1995 because he was shagging Terry Fisher's wife. Some people will swear blind that Rajiv van la Parra wasn't playing in 2018 because he was shagging David Wagner's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Ken Monkou is gay and that he tried it on with Ben Thornley in the showers. Rumours swirl all the time, and mostly are bollocks. The rumour about how and what Clyde Wijnhard was doing to end up in a car crash and getting injured is surely the wildest of them. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 13:01:19 GMT 1
Why does any rumour persist? Some people will swear blind that Marcus Stewart was sold because he was shagging Barry Rubery's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Neil Warnock left in 1995 because he was shagging Terry Fisher's wife. Some people will swear blind that Rajiv van la Parra wasn't playing in 2018 because he was shagging David Wagner's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Ken Monkou is gay and that he tried it on with Ben Thornley in the showers. Rumours swirl all the time, and mostly are bollocks. The rumour about how Clyde Wijnhard ended up in a car crash and getting injured is surely the wildest of them. Wasn't he supposed to have been shagging a bloke in a layby or something? Similar rumour about Kevin Keegan when he was sleeping in his car in a layby and got robbed, or something like that. |
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Post by willo on Apr 26, 2024 13:11:22 GMT 1
its amazing how a manager with his track record, has since coming to town lost his mind and tactical knowledge isn't it ! or is it the players as they are the constant throughout the last 18 months? is he useless or are the players useless, or are the players just not listening ? you would have to see his training methods to judge , to then see what is happening on the pitch. It would only be town to have a manager with his track record, for him to become shit overnight it seems and completely forget what he is doing. Why do people blame him soley and not give the players any blame for this ? Heck we might find next year after a clearout of players, that if he was given a squad of players with the dynamics he wants, he can get them playing as he wants? I think people are giving the players far too much of a leaniet pass on this, we have players who have simply given up in many games this year weathery ou like it or not that is what has happened . I get the manager is the easy one to blame . But still lets have some balance to this idea that he is totally shit , he clearly is not , there is a balance to be had in this. Like i say if a clearout of players was to happen, if we could get him the squad daynmaic he wanted, i would give him a chance to get it to work. Only Town fans would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. Some terrible stats there. Like all of us, I can forgive a lack of ability - we will sign some poor players by the law of averages same as any other club. What I can’t forgive is a lack of effort and there’s been signs of that this season. Burgzorg would never play for us ever again after some of his recent performances if I were manager. He’s been an embarrassment to our club and definitely one of the ones I’d say is not fit to wear the shirt. You watch him go start tomorrow now. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 26, 2024 13:20:18 GMT 1
Only Town fans would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. Some terrible stats there. Like all of us, I can forgive a lack of ability - we will sign some poor players by the law of averages same as any other club. What I can’t forgive is a lack of effort and there’s been signs of that this season. Burgzorg would never play for us ever again after some of his recent performances if I were manager. He’s been an embarrassment to our club and definitely one of the ones I’d say is not fit to wear the shirt. You watch him go start tomorrow now. Burgzorg at the moment does not pass the visual test as it were, its April and he is wearing gloves! How the fuck can you be cold in April/May , unless your not going to put any effort in ? just run about a bit and you will more than warn, last week against Swansea, it was nowhere near cold, yet he wears gloves , it just looks wrong. |
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Post by Rigodon on Apr 26, 2024 14:28:51 GMT 1
its amazing how a manager with his track record, has since coming to town lost his mind and tactical knowledge isn't it ! or is it the players as they are the constant throughout the last 18 months? is he useless or are the players useless, or are the players just not listening ? you would have to see his training methods to judge , to then see what is happening on the pitch. It would only be town to have a manager with his track record, for him to become shit overnight it seems and completely forget what he is doing. Why do people blame him soley and not give the players any blame for this ? Heck we might find next year after a clearout of players, that if he was given a squad of players with the dynamics he wants, he can get them playing as he wants? I think people are giving the players far too much of a leaniet pass on this, we have players who have simply given up in many games this year weathery ou like it or not that is what has happened . I get the manager is the easy one to blame . But still lets have some balance to this idea that he is totally shit , he clearly is not , there is a balance to be had in this. Like i say if a clearout of players was to happen, if we could get him the squad daynmaic he wanted, i would give him a chance to get it to work. Only Town an idiot would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. FTFY |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 26, 2024 14:35:44 GMT 1
I agree with you, seems absolutely ludicrous, but just wondering why the rumour is persisting if there’s nothing in it Why does any rumour persist? Some people will swear blind that Marcus Stewart was sold because he was shagging Barry Rubery's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Neil Warnock left in 1995 because he was shagging Terry Fisher's wife. Some people will swear blind that Rajiv van la Parra wasn't playing in 2018 because he was shagging David Wagner's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Ken Monkou is gay and that he tried it on with Ben Thornley in the showers. Rumours swirl all the time, and mostly are bollocks. You missed that Ken Monkou had a thing with Bryan Gunn |
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 26, 2024 15:04:52 GMT 1
Watching Worthy win 2 out of his 3 games did AB have a 'Yosser Hughes' moment & think 'I can do that?', or was he told he could......Announcing his arrival on the eve of the Hull game was naive (IMO), suspect some at Town were bullish we were defo staying up after Sunderland win, I think he will depart. Worthington managed four games. Yeah but if we'd left him charge we'd be pushing for 6th now. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 15:52:56 GMT 1
Worthington managed four games. Yeah but if we'd left him charge we'd be pushing for 6th now. Top 2 I reckon. |
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Post by vivabobbyhoy on Apr 26, 2024 16:34:58 GMT 1
Some terrible stats there. Like all of us, I can forgive a lack of ability - we will sign some poor players by the law of averages same as any other club. What I can’t forgive is a lack of effort and there’s been signs of that this season. Burgzorg would never play for us ever again after some of his recent performances if I were manager. He’s been an embarrassment to our club and definitely one of the ones I’d say is not fit to wear the shirt. You watch him go start tomorrow now. Burgzorg at the moment does not pass the visual test as it were, its April and he is wearing gloves! How the fuck can you be cold in April/May , unless your not going to put any effort in ? just run about a bit and you will more than warn, last week against Swansea, it was nowhere near cold, yet he wears gloves , it just looks wrong. How the fuck can you be cold in April you ask.... erm, by living in the UK I'd suggest. We were scraping ice off windscreens this morning in Wales... and most heat loss occurs in bodily extremities... which of course includes knob-ends...... |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 26, 2024 16:58:29 GMT 1
Burgzorg at the moment does not pass the visual test as it were, its April and he is wearing gloves! How the fuck can you be cold in April/May , unless your not going to put any effort in ? just run about a bit and you will more than warn, last week against Swansea, it was nowhere near cold, yet he wears gloves , it just looks wrong. How the fuck can you be cold in April you ask.... erm, by living in the UK I'd suggest. We were scraping ice off windscreens this morning in Wales... and most heat loss occurs in bodily extremities... which of course includes knob-ends...... My point is valid mate, if he ran around a bit and showed commitmment, when off the ball not just on it. he would soon warm up. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Apr 26, 2024 17:02:08 GMT 1
Some terrible stats there. Like all of us, I can forgive a lack of ability - we will sign some poor players by the law of averages same as any other club. What I can’t forgive is a lack of effort and there’s been signs of that this season. Burgzorg would never play for us ever again after some of his recent performances if I were manager. He’s been an embarrassment to our club and definitely one of the ones I’d say is not fit to wear the shirt. You watch him go start tomorrow now. Burgzorg at the moment does not pass the visual test as it were, its April and he is wearing gloves! How the fuck can you be cold in April/May , unless your not going to put any effort in ? just run about a bit and you will more than warn, last week against Swansea, it was nowhere near cold, yet he wears gloves , it just looks wrong. Lucky gloves?🤣 |
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Post by dewsburyborn on Apr 26, 2024 17:52:04 GMT 1
I noticed the other day that Summerville is still wearing gloves for Beeston - maybe DB7 aspires to play like Summerville and thinks the gloves is heading in the right direction with them both being Dutch Surinamese ?
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Post by araucaria on Apr 26, 2024 18:00:43 GMT 1
Hope so he’s crap, up there with Moore as the worst manager we’ve ever had! Can’t motive annyone and has crap negative tactics, strange team selections and shit use of subs. What’s good about him apart from a few promotions on his cv with other clubs? Worse than Jan Siewert? John Haselden? Mick Wadsworth? Malcolm Macdonald? Mark Fotheringham? Danny Schofield? Andy Ritchie? Eddie Boot? George Stephenson? Really? Eddie Boot? Does his 20th place finish in 1960-61 outweigh his three top 7 finishes? Why isn't Shankly (12th, 9th, 14th) on your list? |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 18:17:42 GMT 1
Worse than Jan Siewert? John Haselden? Mick Wadsworth? Malcolm Macdonald? Mark Fotheringham? Danny Schofield? Andy Ritchie? Eddie Boot? George Stephenson? Really? Eddie Boot? Does his 20th place finish in 1960-61 outweigh his three top 7 finishes? Why isn't Shankly (12th, 9th, 14th) on your list? He might as well be. |
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Post by araucaria on Apr 26, 2024 18:19:57 GMT 1
its amazing how a manager with his track record, has since coming to town lost his mind and tactical knowledge isn't it ! or is it the players as they are the constant throughout the last 18 months? is he useless or are the players useless, or are the players just not listening ? you would have to see his training methods to judge , to then see what is happening on the pitch. It would only be town to have a manager with his track record, for him to become shit overnight it seems and completely forget what he is doing. Why do people blame him soley and not give the players any blame for this ? Heck we might find next year after a clearout of players, that if he was given a squad of players with the dynamics he wants, he can get them playing as he wants? I think people are giving the players far too much of a leaniet pass on this, we have players who have simply given up in many games this year weathery ou like it or not that is what has happened . I get the manager is the easy one to blame . But still lets have some balance to this idea that he is totally shit , he clearly is not , there is a balance to be had in this. Like i say if a clearout of players was to happen, if we could get him the squad daynmaic he wanted, i would give him a chance to get it to work. Only Town fans would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. Agree with your sentiments but note that without Warnock's contribution of 9 wins in 22 league games (and I assume we're for once ignoring cup games) the rest have 14 in 68; that's essentially a season and a half with an average of 9/10 wins a season and they have an average of two wins each. |
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Post by araucaria on Apr 26, 2024 18:35:49 GMT 1
Eddie Boot? Does his 20th place finish in 1960-61 outweigh his three top 7 finishes? Why isn't Shankly (12th, 9th, 14th) on your list? He might as well be. I believe that our first useless manager was Bobby Collins in 1974, a precursor of Wadsworth, both relegating us from the 3rd division after top-half finishes under their predecessors and - so far - the only managers to do so (although Machin took over from Wadsworth and Tom Johnston 'helped' wee Bobby as the 4th division loomed). Not a bad effort to go 66 years without a proper duffer; the next 50, as you point out, is peppered with them. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 18:42:00 GMT 1
I believe that our first useless manager was Bobby Collins in 1974, a precursor of Wadsworth, both relegating us from the 3rd division after top-half finishes under their predecessors and - so far - the only managers to do so (although Machin took over from Wadsworth and Tom Johnston 'helped' wee Bobby as the 4th division loomed). Not a bad effort to go 66 years without a proper duffer; the next 50, as you point out, is peppered with them. Despite his decent record, many of the players that played under Tom Johnston would suggest he was a duff manager. Never heard a good word about him aside from Ian Holmes, and I've probably spoken to at least 20 players that played under him across all three spells. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 26, 2024 18:45:42 GMT 1
Only Town fans would watch a bunch of shite players, across two seasons, managed by a total of seven managers, who have mustered up 21 wins in 90 games, where the top scorer last season had six goals and this season's top scorer is a fucking defender, and still think that it's not the players' fault we're in this mess. Two more games to go, and hopefully we'll be seeing the back of some of these arseholes that have been disgracing our shirt. Agree with your sentiments but note that without Warnock's contribution of 9 wins in 22 league games (and I assume we're for once ignoring cup games) the rest have 14 in 68; that's essentially a season and a half with an average of 9/10 wins a season and they have an average of two wins each. Agreed, Warnock's exploits have even managed to make them look statistically better than they've been. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 27, 2024 0:06:07 GMT 1
I agree with you, seems absolutely ludicrous, but just wondering why the rumour is persisting if there’s nothing in it Why does any rumour persist? Some people will swear blind that Marcus Stewart was sold because he was shagging Barry Rubery's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Neil Warnock left in 1995 because he was shagging Terry Fisher's wife. Some people will swear blind that Rajiv van la Parra wasn't playing in 2018 because he was shagging David Wagner's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Ken Monkou is gay and that he tried it on with Ben Thornley in the showers. Rumours swirl all the time, and mostly are bollocks. Class centre half was Ken Monkou. I really liked that Town team. |
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Post by wildhogg on Apr 27, 2024 0:12:30 GMT 1
Why does any rumour persist? Some people will swear blind that Marcus Stewart was sold because he was shagging Barry Rubery's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Neil Warnock left in 1995 because he was shagging Terry Fisher's wife. Some people will swear blind that Rajiv van la Parra wasn't playing in 2018 because he was shagging David Wagner's daughter. Some people will swear blind that Ken Monkou is gay and that he tried it on with Ben Thornley in the showers. Rumours swirl all the time, and mostly are bollocks. Class centre half was Ken Monkou. I really liked that Town team. Sure he owns a 'coffee shop' in Amsterdam now. No wonder he always seemed so relaxed on the pitch. |
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Post by araucaria on Apr 27, 2024 10:35:23 GMT 1
I believe that our first useless manager was Bobby Collins in 1974, a precursor of Wadsworth, both relegating us from the 3rd division after top-half finishes under their predecessors and - so far - the only managers to do so (although Machin took over from Wadsworth and Tom Johnston 'helped' wee Bobby as the 4th division loomed). Not a bad effort to go 66 years without a proper duffer; the next 50, as you point out, is peppered with them. Despite his decent record, many of the players that played under Tom Johnston would suggest he was a duff manager. Never heard a good word about him aside from Ian Holmes, and I've probably spoken to at least 20 players that played under him across all three spells. I never heard a bad word about him from anyone during his first spell from 1964/65 to 1968/69, when his 'decent' record was better than both Boot and Shankly and with no Denis Law playing for him. By the late 1970s, his inability to impose discipline on his players saw incidents like Bobby Campbell leading the players through the back of his car in their muddy boots. If a fair proportion of your 20+ are good players from the 1960s rather than abject fourth division losers from the 1970s, then we'll have to revise our thinking about Tom Johnston. Please respond, I'm genuinely interested, although probably alone in that. |
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